Open 657: JK9++ (Game over)

[Creature]

Damn, for some reason I thought my shot on SDAVT failed.

[Creature]

Mod

If the last two players alive is a non-BP SK and a vigilante, will it end in a draw?

[Creature]

Wished I changed my mind, could've shot Tiger_moth who has been lurking all the game.

[Secret Agent Jin]

Well that solves it for us, its Tiger Moth.

VOTE: Tiger Moth

[Creature]

Not hammering.

[Creature]

Though it doesn't matter anyway.

[Creature]

What's your explanation on the missing kill N2?

[Secret Agent Jin]

Is there a reason why you wont hammer? Do you think i am the SK? MDS pretty much confirmed you as town correct? Did i miss something?

Lane jailkept MDS and she waa shot at? A scum role was afk for that night? What is your thought on missing N2 kill?

[Creature]

You're a candidate, I need enough confidence.

[Creature]

Wished I knew what Tiger moth is.

[Creature]

Mod

Does the SK must choose between using strongman/ninja or he automatically uses both?

[Secret Agent Jin]

Lets open the door that i might be SK. I wouldnt have killed MDS as she was confident that, even though i couldn't be ruled out, i was a townread to her. Only at the end did she question my alignment. I would have killed you as i am more confident that i could have persuaded MDS to vote with me. I have a better meta standing with MDS than with you.

When it comes down to it, it really is up to you and your thoughts. I enjoyed playing this and whatever ending we get, i will be happy to have played.

[Creature]

I'll wait Tiger moth, the last time I didn't let someone talk in LyLo it turned bad.

[Randomnamechange]

Mod

If the last two players alive is a non-BP SK and a vigilante, will it end in a draw?

SK will win as their kill resolves first.

Mod

Does the SK must choose between using strongman/ninja or he automatically uses both?

If they chose ninja/strongamn, they would choose between each night.

[Secret Agent Jin]

I agree, i would like to see if she outright confesses or fights the lynch.

[Creature]

Confession would be good, but new players are stubborn.

[Tiger moth]

Vote: Secret Agent Jin

Creature: I wasn't lurking. I just haven't been able to post as much as the rest of you. I'll be happy to answer any questions you have.

My early thoughts on why SAJ is scum are in 724, and my response to his comments on me are in 1604.

[Secret Agent Jin]

And my thoughts on Tiger are in 1455

Take as long as you need Creature and review both of us well. I would like to hear Tigers reasin why she cant be SK. She played a decent SK game and congrats on getting to the end Tiger.

[Tiger moth]

I can't prove a negative. All I can do is try to explain why you are. I ought to go back and update my case on you, but it'll be flavoured by confbias now so I'm not sure how useful that will be to Creature.

I guess you chose BP? That would explain the missing N2 kill, if you didn't have strongman to get through the jailkeep. It would also explain why you shot MDS, so that she couldn't give the result of her track on you if that's what she did.

[Creature]

Damn, apparently I'll have to do all the work.

[Secret Agent Jin]

I can't prove a negative. All I can do is try to explain why you are. I ought to go back and update my case on you, but it'll be flavoured by confbias now so I'm not sure how useful that will be to Creature.

I guess you chose BP? That would explain the missing N2 kill, if you didn't have strongman to get through the jailkeep. It would also explain why you shot MDS, so that she couldn't give the result of her track on you if that's what she did.

See, this is the hard thing about proving VT because those things could literally go for you too. I havent had a single night action all game. The hard thing about all this is that Creature has the most important vote all game. Anything i say, you could just say the same thing. I have zero idea why i am at endgame with you. I understand that you could have made a point to take me to endgame as you have set up a scum case against me all game and basically set up this exact situation between me and you. The only question is why didnt mafia kill me? It astounds me that they let me live, exceot that i was the perfect mislynch. I am newer, i dont have a full graso of all the MS meta plays yet, and its easy to make a case on me.

My point with all of this is that nothing you OR me have done with whole game helps Creature because SK is standalone scum. The scum that have been lynched doesnt matter because they were all enemies to the SK. The only thing that sort of clears me a little bit is that taking you to the end with me would be stupid. You constantly jabbed scumreads at me and by your posts i should be confscum. It makes no sense for me to not kill you early on before your case was built enough. I would have happily taken people like Deers, Kop, anyone outside of you and creature. I even made a point earlier to state the fact that i would have LOVED to have MDS over Creature at the endgame if i was SK because she would have been more likely to mishammer with me.

You have played a great game and if Creaure votes me then i will congratulate you because you played a decent, under the radar (except mine) SK game.

[Creature]

Maybe you could pick some of your posts where you've been trying to do some pro-town thing (like trying to bait the NK on you)?

[Secret Agent Jin]

Maybe you could pick some of your posts where you've been trying to do some pro-town thing (like trying to bait the NK on you)?

I was right along side MDS when she was theory crafting after the mass reveal. I was throwing out possible situations and putting together different combinations to get the correct setup we had. I will look back and present post numbers in a minute. All Tiger was doing was pushing for my lynch during that time or being quiet. If i was SK then it would be easy to just sit back and agree with people's decisions and ride the wave to the end.

[Secret Agent Jin]

Maybe you could pick some of your posts where you've been trying to do some pro-town thing (like trying to bait the NK on you)?

I was right along side MDS when she was theory crafting after the mass reveal. I was throwing out possible situations and putting together different combinations to get the correct setup we had. I will look back and present post numbers in a minute. All Tiger was doing was pushing for my lynch during that time or being quiet. If i was SK then it would be easy to just sit back and agree with people's decisions and ride the wave to the end.

1493 1502 15091925

[Secret Agent Jin]

That 1925 should be 1915