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Post Post #6200 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:23 pm

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In post 6198, MagnaofIllusion wrote:The first two pages of Fire and Maria’s empty spam back and forth makes me want to poke my eyes out with a sharp stick.
completely unnecessary from scumMoi. This is townmoi.
Also when I went back through his ISO, he tried to do a low blow on me for hammering Toog, which he wouldn't have done if he was scum.

Yeah MoI is town Maria.
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #6201 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:24 pm

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I'm still in ABM mode yo :cool:
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Post Post #6202 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:26 pm

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Hopefully the last post I ever do in this game:

Town: Maria, Spiffeh (he sucks though), MoI (total douche),
Probably Town: EP, Untrod Tripod (he can pocket me anyway), Wraith (fuck this guy though)
Meh: Skybird, PeregrineV,
Scum: Spyrex (he is cool though)
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his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.

His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #6203 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:48 pm

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Here's the miscellaneous thoughts and reads list.

Obvtown


MariaR
- If MariaR is scum it makes absolutely no sense why Toogeloo committed suicide to prevent the Vig shot from falling into her hands
Skybird
- Very heavy early pushes by scum, unbroken eagerness to cooperate, plus some good posts every now and then when she emerges from lurking
Spiffeh
- Spiffeh was a firm townread for a long time, then I started having doubts, now I'm back to firm townread since my doubts about the neighborhood were proven correct only it was Andrius. I personally don't think Spiffeh would have bussed a teammate that hard in the D5 situation even though certain people have their doubts. So I'm betting all on this horse - if that Andrius wagon was a bus, then I congratulate you in advance on a masterful play and a scum victory.
MoI
- Been pretty firm town all the way. Good, insightful posting and a healthy amount of skepticism in my book. Even if his skepticism is a little more thorough than my own. The big thing is that he asks excellent questions that even I haven't considered from time to time, and that's big townpoints in my book.

Softtown


PeregrineV
- His early and unwavering support for the Andrius wagon yesterday, plus Andrius's multi-day attempts to push his lynch, have greatly rehabilitated Peregrine in my book. There's still lots of ambiguity here, but with so many others badly need rope he's dropped back to the middle of the pack in chopping block priority

Murky


Errant
- I'm starting to get seeds of doubt here. If he is scum, up to this point I don't see much he would do differently. He's lurked a lot, done what he was told and been left with freedom of action due to his role, and has had a pet doctor babysitting him all game. He's been living a life of luxury that would be really beneficial to scum, which has left seeds of doubt in my mind all game. Most recently, the biggest seed of doubt was Andrius's vote for him - it could have been him overstretching himself, but the my gut can't shake the feeling that it was a hardcore effort at distancing. And his recent apparent townread and refusal to lynch SpyreX inflamed those doubts into suspicions.
UT
- Has played an extremely similar game as SpyreX but his voting patterns are slightly better. Which is saying something, considering UT has basically blown with the wind this entire game. That's pretty much it, and why he's third in line on my chopping block priority.

Soft Scum


Fire
- My gut says this slot is town. Infuriatingly obtuse town. But my brain says he's too scummy and too dangerous to leave alive, both in terms of role and demeanor. His activity D5 was horrendous. Getting suckered in by scum after he's tipped his hand into leading a counterwagon against the obvtown bloc is just inexcusable.

Scum


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- Constantly leads wagons on townies. Has yet to actually vote for a scumflip wagon since Toogeloo on the first fucking day. Quickhammered GenX before the town was ready for night while believing he would flip town(!!!!!!!). Andrius's biggest cheerleader D5 well after he tipped his hand. Contributes next to nothing and is playing a "woe is me I wanna die" game. Need I say more?

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Full Chopping Block Priority


Spy
Fire
UT
Errant
PeregrineV
MoI
Spiffeh
Skybird
MariaR

For the record I place myself above MariaR. People can place me anywhere they want on the list.

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Other Notes

* My biggest reservation about assuming a SpyreX/FA team is I find it highly unlikely ALL the scum would blatantly push the counterwagon there yesterday.
* My biggest reservation about assuming a SpyreX/UT team is I find it highly unlikely they would buddy each other so blatantly all game and essentially copy each others' play-style for this game the entire run.
* Maria still doesn't seem to understand that Fire going to the Lab last night was an enormous risk to town if he is in fact scum, because it would have allowed him to kill Errant or herself with a Strongman shot, at the cost of scumclaiming. Thank christ MoI has a head on his shoulders.
* Though the above seeds counter-doubts in my head about Errant because Fire showing up there last would have been the perfect opportunity to Strongman Maria and pin it on Fire.
* Skybird actually made a pretty alarming point in the PT yesterday regarding his post on an Andrius/Spy/UT scumteam and this series of responses:
In post 5628, Andrius wrote:
In post 5626, Skybird wrote:EP, I see where you are coming from. Is it possible the remaining scum team is Andrius, Spy, and UT?
Hahahahaha
No
In post 5629, SpyreX wrote:Only in our dreams best team ever
In post 5630, Untrod Tripod wrote:Man I wish
In post 5631, Andrius wrote:
In post 5628, Andrius wrote:
In post 5626, Skybird wrote:EP, I see where you are coming from. Is it possible the remaining scum team is Andrius, Spy, and UT?
Hahahahaha
No
In post 5629, SpyreX wrote:Only in our dreams best team ever
In post 5630, Untrod Tripod wrote:Man I wish
Best posts in game.
Anyways, I'm going to give it a day for the town (and myself) to mull over things before I vote for someone definitively.
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Post Post #6204 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:08 pm

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In post 6203, Wraith wrote:* Maria still doesn't seem to understand that Fire going to the Lab last night was an enormous risk to town if he is in fact scum, because it would have allowed him to kill Errant or herself with a Strongman shot, at the cost of scumclaiming. Thank christ MoI has a head on his shoulders.
ummm if i was scum i could use strongman shot regardless of the sabotage that MoI used.
if anything that semi clears me.
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #6205 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:08 pm

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not really cause my ally could perform the kill, but you know.
if i was going on a "suicide mission", as some people refer it to, then you know I would perform the kill to.
Not just to go the room to do nothing.
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #6206 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:11 pm

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you know what.
why do we need to lynch?

I am fine with us skipping to confirm people.
I vote two people to role block.
MoI sabotages me.

Could we still do that?
If theres a kill that clears 3 people.
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I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.

His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #6207 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:11 pm

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In post 6204, Firebringer wrote:
In post 6203, Wraith wrote:* Maria still doesn't seem to understand that Fire going to the Lab last night was an enormous risk to town if he is in fact scum, because it would have allowed him to kill Errant or herself with a Strongman shot, at the cost of scumclaiming. Thank christ MoI has a head on his shoulders.
ummm if i was scum i could use strongman shot regardless of the sabotage that MoI used.
if anything that semi clears me.
Oh damn, that's true. I keep forgetting argh.
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Post Post #6208 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:12 pm

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In post 6206, Firebringer wrote:you know what.
why do we need to lynch?

I am fine with us skipping to confirm people.
I vote two people to role block.
MoI sabotages me.

Could we still do that?
If theres a kill that clears 3 people.
no wait, if scum have strongman this means nothing.
god i wish we knew if they had it
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I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.

His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #6209 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:28 pm

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Wraith
I swear to god
Some of your logic is just insane to me

I have no time so i can't say much else but this post here.
In post 6203, Wraith wrote:
SpyreX
- Constantly leads wagons on townies. Has yet to actually vote for a scumflip wagon since Toogeloo on the first fucking day. Quickhammered GenX before the town was ready for night while believing he would flip town(!!!!!!!). Andrius's biggest cheerleader D5 well after he tipped his hand. Contributes next to nothing and is playing a "woe is me I wanna die" game. Need I say more?

*snip*

* My biggest reservation about assuming a SpyreX/FA team is I find it highly unlikely ALL the scum would blatantly push the counterwagon there yesterday.
* My biggest reservation about assuming a SpyreX/UT team is I find it highly unlikely they would buddy each other so blatantly all game and essentially copy each others' play-style for this game the entire run.
From post-snip content I can easily see that you interpret scumplay with at least some level of weight to scum-play-to-survive analysis. You doubt these teams because stuff like that is BLATANTLY BAD for scum to do and so it's unlikely for scum to do it.
And then you turn around and give that no weight to that when describing spy's play. yes, I acknowledge that you might be right on spyre scum because in the end mafia is for the most part throwing darts while blindfolded while pretending not to be blindfolded, but goddammit this is not the reason. How likely is it, from your weighing mechanism of unlikeliness, for spy, as scum, knowing everyone's alignment and everyone's role, to consistently play in a way that people are going to look at and suspect? I'm not saying that you should be townreading spy for this but the fact that this is completely nonexistent as one of your "reservations" is baffling to me

Like I look at some of the total trust that spy had in andrius and my FIRST THOUGHT is that "there's no way that those two are going buddy to buddy on those interactions" because that is a normal thought to have for someone who weighs scumplay with intent to survive like you, and like me, so why do you not have those same thoughts
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Post Post #6210 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:41 pm

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EP respond to my posts about Firebringer please.

Or just vote for him.
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Post Post #6211 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:43 pm

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@moi
It was pretty much why bother I'm dead man walking and hes not a cool kid club.

And tomorrow, i want you guys to reaaaallly think about the cool kids club. And no amount of gee golly gosh he was.sooooo scum.better change that.

Dead god damn serious.

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Post Post #6212 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:44 pm

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spyrex the dream of the deplorables will always be with us
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Post Post #6213 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:46 pm

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Even in hell i will be a deplorable

Fire you better not be breaking my heart. I hope tomorrow you can at least use me.being town to wedge this waggly jazzhands party.

And, scum or not, i wish we three amigos had pulled it off
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Post Post #6214 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:47 pm

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SpyreX i welcome you to not be completely useless.

Who in the "cool kids club" do you think is scum and why?
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Post Post #6215 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:48 pm

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well if your town, i am getting lynched.
when i flip town your getting lynched.

Funny thing is, if your town then no matter what goes down now is two town are going to be lynched in a row.
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #6216 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:48 pm

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[Day 6, DEFCON 1 - Game Event]


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[NORAD SYSTEM] ALERT. ALERT. NUCLEAR LAUNCH DETECTED.
[NORAD SYSTEM] Attempting to locate launch site...
[NORAD SYSTEM] Missile tracked to facility XR-843, currently commanded by
MagnaOfIllusion.

[NORAD SYSTEM] Analyzing flight trajectory…
[NORAD SYSTEM] Missile is currently targeting coordinates registered to
Untrod Tripod
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[NORAD SYSTEM] Estimating time until impact...
[NORAD SYSTEM] Warhead will detonate in (expired on 2016-12-22 21:48:00)...
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Post Post #6217 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:49 pm

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our mod is pretty fun
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his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.

His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #6218 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:51 pm

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In post 6214, Spiffeh wrote:SpyreX i welcome you to not be completely useless.

Who in the "cool kids club" do you think is scum and why?
I said my piece before. Maria town..skybird totally town. With andy scum moi more town. So.wrath of the weird justification for me being scum maaaybe.

But really i dont care. Two major wrongs and any discussion will be a huge waving contest much like uts new amazing and.saddening avatar.

Fire well... thats whats gonna be
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Post Post #6219 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:52 pm

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In post 6216, SirCakez wrote:
[Day 6, DEFCON 1 - Game Event]


Image

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[NORAD SYSTEM] ALERT. ALERT. NUCLEAR LAUNCH DETECTED.
[NORAD SYSTEM] Attempting to locate launch site...
[NORAD SYSTEM] Missile tracked to facility XR-843, currently commanded by
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[NORAD SYSTEM] Analyzing flight trajectory…
[NORAD SYSTEM] Missile is currently targeting coordinates registered to
Untrod Tripod
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[NORAD SYSTEM] Estimating time until impact...
[NORAD SYSTEM] Warhead will detonate in (expired on 2016-12-22 21:48:00)...
Best post today

Even if i must relive the darkness
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Post Post #6220 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:54 pm

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Votecount 6.1
All right. Let's presume these are silver filings, as you say.

-Sander
Firebringer (2) - Spiffeh, Untrod Tripod
SpyreX (2) - Firebringer, Firebringer
Untrod Tripod (1) - MariaR

Not voting (6) - Errantparabola, PeregrineV, Skybird, Wraith, SpyreX, MagnaOfIllusion

With 10 alive, it takes 6 votes to lynch someone.

Firebringer is V/LA through next Wednesday.
Spiffeh is V/LA through Thursday.
Errantparabola is V/LA through Thursday.

Projected Impact Times:
Untrod Tripod: (expired on 2016-12-22 21:48:00)

(expired on 2017-01-03 15:21:00) remain until day end
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Post Post #6221 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:55 pm

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Even if Andy turned out to be a scum butt.
I couldn't stay mad at him, he was and shall forever be, my friend.
And a deplorable.

Maybe the best deplorable there ever was
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Post Post #6222 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:56 pm

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We miss you andrius.
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Post Post #6223 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:57 pm

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Even as the worst of men, he was the best of men
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Post Post #6224 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:58 pm

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This is for you andrius
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown

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