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Post Post #1950 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 9:56 pm

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I'm sick with the flu right now (not sure how considering I got a flu shot a few months ago), so I'm not caught up past page 50 or something... But why would anyone claim there is an SK in the game on D1? What brilliant mind made up that idea?

Traitor/survivor also doesn't matter until one alignment or the other is winning. So why the assumption that Alisae is any of these things? Again, it's Day 1. I'll try to catch up and find why anyone would even mention those roles instead of just calling them scum, but I believe a day talk scum team would be far more interested in sorting a Survivor/Traitor/SK than any townie ever would right now. I feel like I need to mention that it's Day 1 again. Town looks for scum, at least until they can confirm multiple NKs after N1. Scum may look for 3rd party in Alisae, but I can't see town having a reason to do so.

Back to reading though... I slept all day and can't anymore, so I mine as well catch up.
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Post Post #1951 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 9:58 pm

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Tywin I hope you get better!
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Post Post #1952 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 9:58 pm

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Summary: town finally got its fucking act together.
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Post Post #1953 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:03 pm

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At this point I think I just need to treat this game as if I'm replacing in and go from here.
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Post Post #1954 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:08 pm

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Pine you do you buddy.
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In post 1954, Alisae wrote:buddy
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Post Post #1956 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:19 pm

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Post Post #1957 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:20 pm

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COO COO CA CHOO
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Post Post #1958 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:21 pm

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hey Gamma, is this scum read on me based on anything other than you not liking my Titus read?
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Post Post #1959 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:27 pm

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Nero, thoughts on the Lapsa wagon?
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Post Post #1960 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:29 pm

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In post 1958, Nero Cain wrote:hey Gamma, is this scum read on me based on anything other than you not liking my Titus read?
Remember how you voted me, then Titus, based solely on wagon placement? That's what I found scummy.
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Post Post #1961 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:34 pm

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In post 1928, Gamma Emerald wrote:@ssbm: Nero's statement is actually why I initially townread Lapsa.
Why would you say this then if you thought I was scummy for voting based on "wagon placement"?
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Post Post #1962 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:35 pm

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In post 1961, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1928, Gamma Emerald wrote:@ssbm: Nero's statement is actually why I initially townread Lapsa.
Why would you say this then if you thought I was scummy for voting based on "wagon placement"?
Because I thought you had a point still, even if the way you handled it was scummy.
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Post Post #1963 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:39 pm

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"You have a point, but the way you handled it is scummy."

thats not talking out of both sides of your mouth at all. :igmeou:

Can you explain how it would have been handled not scummy with the same belief that scum was sheeping the Lapsa wagon?
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Post Post #1964 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:40 pm

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In post 1963, Nero Cain wrote:"You have a point, but the way you handled it is scummy."

thats not talking out of both sides of your mouth at all. :igmeou:

Can you explain how it would have been handled not scummy with the same belief that scum was sheeping the Lapsa wagon?
Not being a robot about it and trying to evaluate each vote.
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Post Post #1965 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:56 pm

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In hindsight,
MAYBE
you could argue that Titus was voting Lapsa b/c she thought it was scummy that Lapsa didn't like masons/the fake mason claim but it still seems skin deep and opportunistic. Both Elbrin and Alisae votes were blank sheep votes. Ali later claimed that she voted Lapsa b/c he seemed anti-town. I really don't feel like my Titus vote was bad as I didn't like any of them.

If Lapsa flips town how would it change your reads on those 3 slots?
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #1966 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:00 pm

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In post 1965, Nero Cain wrote:In hindsight,
MAYBE
you could argue that Titus was voting Lapsa b/c she thought it was scummy that Lapsa didn't like masons/the fake mason claim but it still seems skin deep and opportunistic. Both Elbrin and Alisae votes were blank sheep votes. Ali later claimed that she voted Lapsa b/c he seemed anti-town. I really don't feel like my Titus vote was bad as I didn't like any of them.

If Lapsa flips town how would it change your reads on those 3 slots?
I think Ali is scum regardless of Lapsa's alignment. I think Titus is town regardless. Elbirn was wagoned by quite a few SRs so I think he's town regardless.
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Post Post #1967 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:02 pm

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In post 1966, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1965, Nero Cain wrote:In hindsight,
MAYBE
you could argue that Titus was voting Lapsa b/c she thought it was scummy that Lapsa didn't like masons/the fake mason claim but it still seems skin deep and opportunistic. Both Elbrin and Alisae votes were blank sheep votes. Ali later claimed that she voted Lapsa b/c he seemed anti-town. I really don't feel like my Titus vote was bad as I didn't like any of them.

If Lapsa flips town how would it change your reads on those 3 slots?
I think Ali is scum regardless of Lapsa's alignment. I think Titus is town regardless. Elbirn was wagoned by quite a few SRs so I think he's town regardless.
So me being SK is potentially a bunch of bullshit to you?
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Post Post #1968 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:02 pm

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In post 1959, Alisae wrote:Nero, thoughts on the Lapsa wagon?
I *minorly* support it mostly so we don't have a 140 page d1 and his town or scum flip will give us some information so we stop going in circles. I'll be honest in that the only reason that I've had to town read him is that I did not like the initial wagon on him and he was voting who I think is scum.
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Post Post #1969 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:03 pm

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And no, I'm not the SK.
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Post Post #1970 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:06 pm

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In post 1967, Alisae wrote:
In post 1966, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1965, Nero Cain wrote:In hindsight,
MAYBE
you could argue that Titus was voting Lapsa b/c she thought it was scummy that Lapsa didn't like masons/the fake mason claim but it still seems skin deep and opportunistic. Both Elbrin and Alisae votes were blank sheep votes. Ali later claimed that she voted Lapsa b/c he seemed anti-town. I really don't feel like my Titus vote was bad as I didn't like any of them.

If Lapsa flips town how would it change your reads on those 3 slots?
I think Ali is scum regardless of Lapsa's alignment. I think Titus is town regardless. Elbirn was wagoned by quite a few SRs so I think he's town regardless.
So me being SK is potentially a bunch of bullshit to you?
Yeah, the SK talk feels like read dodging from ssbm.
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Post Post #1971 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:09 pm

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no reason to assume an sk until we see a 2nd nk.
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Post Post #1972 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:18 pm

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In post 1970, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1967, Alisae wrote:
In post 1966, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1965, Nero Cain wrote:In hindsight,
MAYBE
you could argue that Titus was voting Lapsa b/c she thought it was scummy that Lapsa didn't like masons/the fake mason claim but it still seems skin deep and opportunistic. Both Elbrin and Alisae votes were blank sheep votes. Ali later claimed that she voted Lapsa b/c he seemed anti-town. I really don't feel like my Titus vote was bad as I didn't like any of them.

If Lapsa flips town how would it change your reads on those 3 slots?
I think Ali is scum regardless of Lapsa's alignment. I think Titus is town regardless. Elbirn was wagoned by quite a few SRs so I think he's town regardless.
So me being SK is potentially a bunch of bullshit to you?
Yeah, the SK talk feels like read dodging from ssbm.
Do you think it's read dodging coming from Titus?
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Post Post #1973 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:20 pm

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In post 1972, Alisae wrote:
In post 1970, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1967, Alisae wrote:
In post 1966, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1965, Nero Cain wrote:In hindsight,
MAYBE
you could argue that Titus was voting Lapsa b/c she thought it was scummy that Lapsa didn't like masons/the fake mason claim but it still seems skin deep and opportunistic. Both Elbrin and Alisae votes were blank sheep votes. Ali later claimed that she voted Lapsa b/c he seemed anti-town. I really don't feel like my Titus vote was bad as I didn't like any of them.

If Lapsa flips town how would it change your reads on those 3 slots?
I think Ali is scum regardless of Lapsa's alignment. I think Titus is town regardless. Elbirn was wagoned by quite a few SRs so I think he's town regardless.
So me being SK is potentially a bunch of bullshit to you?
Yeah, the SK talk feels like read dodging from ssbm.
Do you think it's read dodging coming from Titus?
She's not the one mentioning it over and over, so no.
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Post Post #1974 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:22 pm

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Although stepping out of The Zone for a second she is pretty adamant about that read. It's not scummy though, it just feels like confusion based on associations.
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