Micro 672: Vanillish Mafia (Game Over!)

[Aristophanes]

VC 2.0

Not Voting

(7): Karnos, KainTepes, Think Tank, Aelin, TheRealGin-N-Tonic, Spade_Ace, Hiraki

With 7 alive, it takes 4 votes to lynch

Mod Notes: Boy this is fun!
Good luck to everyone, and remember to be safe this holiday season!

P.edit
Pagetopped like a champ!
That tooootally wasn't accidental...

[Think Tank]

VOTE: Spade

Scum confirmed. My vote is staying right here until you explain your hammer.

-Think

[Hiraki]

Spade's hammer was probably the least scummiest thing he's done all game.

I want to examine a few things but I do not trust TS' reads after he pulled a stunt like that as town. I could've sworn he did that just so he could get the vengekill on D2.

Top scumread is still Spade but I don't like that ThinkTank is all over him too.

[Think Tank]

I could've sworn he did that just so he could get the vengekill on D2.

This explanation makes no sense. Why would scum venge kill TF over one of the IC?

-TB

[Hiraki]

You're misreading what I'm saying.

He did that (as assumed scum) so he could get the vengekill while getting a mislynch on D1. This goes from:

3 v 5 (with 2 confirmed)

to a ML (never happened but just to entertain the thouht)

3 v 4 (with 2 confirmed)

to a scumlynch with a confirmed townie down

2 v 3 (with 1 confirmed)

Odds become a little better for fake-TSscum. Especially with TS' shaky stature rather than playing it well, per se. Since he wasn't scum, this discussion is pretty irrelevant.

[KainTepes]

Spade must be scum,, i believe THINKTANK,, VOTE: Spade....

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

VOTE: Karnos

That ISO is a fucking joke

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

My vote isn't moving till I see actual contribution.

[Think Tank]

Note to Mod and other players: I'm might have somewhat limited access until after the first of the year. I think the place we're going has wifi, but I may be restricted to phoneposting.

Pine

Not to worry! Thanks for the heads up
Oh, and have a fun trip!
- Ari

[karnos]

You're misreading what I'm saying.

He did that (as assumed scum) so he could get the vengekill while getting a mislynch on D1. This goes from:

Alright, I might have missed a vote yesterday, but you seem really confused.

How on earth can scum get a miss lynch and a vengekill? It just doesn't work that way. The vengekill is triggered by a scum being lynched.

When the first Mafia Goon is lynched, they get a return kill at a town player.

Okay, I think I got you. You are saying he was going for a miss lynch, expecting to get lynched the following day, which would give him the vengekill. Okay.


No, that is terrible logic.

Spade & Hiraki for scum.

VOTE: Ace_Spade

[Aelin]

Hmm one thing is that one scum lynch is beneficial for scum, since the other scum can bus for a bit of town cred and ge the extra kill

[karnos]

Hmm one thing is that one scum lynch is beneficial for scum, since the other scum can bus for a bit of town cred and ge the extra kill

It's really not.

If you bus, you lose a team member but you get a town kill in exchange.

If you lynch town, you get a town kill without losing a team member.

It's not like the vengekill is lost if they don't get it today. Town can't win without lynching scum, the only way scum doesn't eventually get a vengekill is if they win a perfect game.

[KainTepes]

spade is DEFINITELY scum,, also this is LYLO, meaning that if there is wagon on town scum would have quickhammered very easily,, so i believe SPADE's wagon built SO FAST is because scum is bussing SCUM PARTNERS............ so i suggest we still lynch SPADE today,, but dont give any extra town cred to thinktank or KARNOS for voting spade,,

there is only one town member other than me who isnt IC right now and i think there is VERY LITTLE POSSIBILITY it is spade,,

[Hiraki]

Okay, I think I got you. You are saying he was going for a miss lynch, expecting to get lynched the following day, which would give him the vengekill. Okay.


No, that is terrible logic.

Yeah - and he flipped town - I'm sure he must be the world's smartest player to pull this one off. My point was also that TS was being suspected. It's not like I was going to unvote him anyway - I was just doing some basic theory from my end trying to justify everything.

Why are you always so hostile towards me with these really weak bases? I honestly can't read you because

everything

I do is just scummy to you.

[Hiraki]

Spade must be scum,, i believe THINKTANK,, VOTE: Spade....

so i believe SPADE's wagon built SO FAST is because scum is bussing SCUM PARTNERS............ so i suggest we still lynch SPADE today,, but dont give any extra town cred to thinktank or KARNOS for voting spade,,

Is ThinkTank a scumread or a townread for you Kain? I can understand how you get both opinions from both sides but it fits much better if you think he's a scumread.

[karnos]

A town confirmed IC seems to agree with your thinking. Terrible logic doesn't mean you are scum, but the way you are being defensive about it makes me wonder.

[Hiraki]

A town confirmed IC seems to agree with your thinking. Terrible logic doesn't mean you are scum, but the way you are being defensive about it makes me wonder.

Are you just going to ignore the question that vilifies this statement?

[karnos]

I want to believe kain is town, because I love his playstyle. TBH I can't read him at all, but given the white-flag nature of the game that might not be a problem.

It's probably spade and think tank, and maybe hiraki.

[karnos]

A town confirmed IC seems to agree with your thinking. Terrible logic doesn't mean you are scum, but the way you are being defensive about it makes me wonder.

Are you just going to ignore the question that vilifies this statement?

The question about being hostile?

Pointing out bad logic is NOT hostile, that is the point. I wasn't calling you scum, I just said it's bad logic. But you seem to think I was pushing you as scum, that makes me wonder.

[Hiraki]

No clue where I could've gotten that from--

You're misreading what I'm saying.

He did that (as assumed scum) so he could get the vengekill while getting a mislynch on D1. This goes from:

Alright, I might have missed a vote yesterday, but you seem really confused.

How on earth can scum get a miss lynch and a vengekill? It just doesn't work that way. The vengekill is triggered by a scum being lynched.

When the first Mafia Goon is lynched, they get a return kill at a town player.

Okay, I think I got you. You are saying he was going for a miss lynch, expecting to get lynched the following day, which would give him the vengekill. Okay.


No, that is terrible logic.

Spade & Hiraki for scum.

VOTE: Ace_Spade

oh wait

[karnos]

Yes. Process of elimination, and reads from yesterday. I'm not calling you scum because of the terrible logic.

[Hiraki]

I'm sure any Sherlock Holmes could've deduced that from what you said.

It's only a shame that none of us here, at least so I believe, are Sherlock Holmes.

[karnos]

Obviously you think I am town, so you should be happy to have solved the game. We lynch spade & think tank and win.

[Hiraki]

You shouldn't assume. I'm not sure where I am at the moment and you're definitely not on my 100% town list.

[karnos]

Just seems like you have been very concerned about my read of you. If you thought I was scum, I don't see why my read would be relevant at all, because it would be a fake read.