In post 657, Crystal Maiden wrote:He clearly knew that we can't sort drealm with his spam flooding the thread unless by doing setup spec. He even suggested a suitable - convincing role for him but even after me asking why are you trying to do that he said " This is where a lot of the attention is already is" as an excuse.
Thats exactly scum mindset cause Thats where they can safely Buy Time and Town confusion.
Ok, this is a good point. But I still think "why so sure" was a legitimate question screen could've had, and he did do
some
stuff to actually try to sort dreal.
There is no such state as I'm 100% sure this guy will flip scum unless with a guilty. When I first suspected screen with the above logic I wasn't even remotely sure about it the way I am now. It was a good point of pressure and It worked to show his true color.
Suddenly after me pointing this out I get to L1 and if I wasn't online to claim I was lynched. Knowing the ratio of scum in this (and the fact I'm voteless and there is a double voter and the awful way TTTT sheeped those votes in this post:
It's certainly a possibility that TTTT is buddies with screen, but I wouldn't base anything on that theory. I didn't like him sheeping too much either.
I'm not basing my case about screen on assosciative tells. I'm just saying suddenly I got to L1 with Drealm you and TTTT votes right after me expressing something about screen before letting him to react was actually cute and definitely weigthened my scumread on screen.
^^^ Which is practically a scum claim. Look at this guilty conscious ...
so scum
I don't really see much here, maybe you can explain? I see screen of either alignment wanting to know the case on him, so I understand why he says he wasn't reacting. You could interpret asking why someone scumreads him as a reaction, but I didn't interpret it as a reaction.
I poked him with a comment about how fake was his behavior and he instead of attacking back or trying to analyze his behavior claimed he didn't react yet. Look at the content around that to understand what I'm talking about. Instead of engaging with me he tried to disarm me and end the conversation.
In post 455, Srceenplay wrote:So your not saying he isn't scum but you thinking I'm scumier because I have asked the wrong questions?
He tried to make it like my vote on him has any realations to my not sure yet read on not mafia without actually accusing me or him of anything cause he couldn't win that argument - He just wanted to throw dirt on town councious here
Let's stop here, I don't see how screen is saying those things are related. "you think x is scummier than y" contains no implications that the reads on x and y are related.
no I want to move. so he out of nowhere asked about my read on Not Mafia and compared it with my read on him and his read on him for what exactly? I destroyed his manipulative process by outing his plan immidiatly. He wasnt accusing em of anything, he was throwing shade
Acting like he is actually asking me if I'm assosciative with not mafia or not - like its not a loaded question
Well, I certainly see how he could be scum implying that you two are buddies, but I also see how he could be town who wants to make clear your position.
He wasn't pushing me. He wasn't asking questions. He had no read on me. He wasn't interacting, he was just trying to imply that is a possibility to see if others will accept it or not the way scum will. There is a very thiny obvious line between scumhunting and throwing shade and Its obvious which one was it.
In post 472, Srceenplay wrote:
Please don't say that. I would hate to be the reason you never play here again.
returnes to my asking for pressure with such an ATE
Well it's not really a self-defense AtE, but ok
tried to divert attention in the middle of the conversation with me again - obviously to that spammer drealmz -
Ok this is a good point actually. I don't think scum tend to try to divert a lot, however I don't like that he seemed oblivious to where he was diverting.
attacked my self meta to say how my stubborness can be harmful to town - trying to lecture me - more apeasing.
If you remember, I was on his side here and stand by it. If someone tunnels on you and you're town, it makes sense to try to explain how stubbornness hurts town to try to get the tunneler back on track.
And where was he appeasing?
I will quote it after this post. It makes sense to explain that I agree, if he really is town he would do that as well. He did this after me asking for more pressure on him betting on my career to just make others feel like my meta is not an important factor about the accuracy of my reads not to stop my push on him read his posts again and see how they were trying to force me to tell my meta bugs.
Accuse me that my push on him is acting but not discussing it in light :
In post 496, Crystal Maiden wrote: In post 493, Srceenplay wrote:You are beginning to act like you already have a narrative made up for me and you are trying to to new meaning to the words I say.
so you think I'm acting - or your trying to imply you think I'm acting - and your not trying to sort that out?
Fine but this is semantics.
What do you mean semantics? He litterally did nothing to push me or NM. All he did was throwing shade.
What an unrealated crap - trying to make me feel guilty about my stubborn push on him instead of doing anything for the game:
Again, it's what I would do as town to get the tunneler to second guess themselves and be less stubborn. Idk if you've been tunneled on as town before but I think this is very much that mindset.
KNows he can't push me or fight back a 1v1 and tries to delay my push on him - Buying time to delay sumhunting - his exuse is that "he is not as good as me" when he was trying to leture me before:
In post 529, Srceenplay wrote:
With every post. I might not be as good as you and I might be new to forum mafia but I will not give up or quit trying to figure out the game I'm in.
So I don't know the time when. It might be today, tomorrow, or even end game but we will all figure it out eventually.
Again, this could be scum trying to buy time but it could also be town explaining his scumhunting process as a newb.
No if he was a newbie town, after me pressuring him he would get motovated to do more work not to divert it more and more. This divertion is just scum's.
agreed when someone brough a lurker to attention. OMGUSed (not with vote - I mean reationed) ASAP after the post but because he was working he posted an answer to ASP 30 mins later. I don't buy this crap.
@screen I'd like you to address this in more detail. Why exactly did you read the post and not respond right away?
In post 601, Srceenplay wrote:I am going to have to agree with our Stubborn Maiden. I don't think talking about rl is an alignment indicator. I have done it before.
If you are having a bad week I'm sorry to hear that ASP.
ASP seems to have an indifferent attitude. Maybe that might give onsite to there alignment. I don't feel like scum would try to give off that type of attitude. Draws a little to much attention I think.
THen he calms the newly formed wagon on ASP down. kepping in mind ASP is highly lurking this can be either :
- bussying : ASP and he are scum partners. ASP voted him as his first vote after lurk to distant. He wants to deflect the wagon for now
- Distancing : ASP is a lurker and there is a good chance for getting a mislynh there (if he is town) so staying away from the wagon that was easily fornmed on him and acting calm about it is what a scum will do in this case
Ok those are possible
- none : Screen is town and he agrees with my attck to infinity about RL stuff - Infinity likes screen attidue but doesn't agree with the point he is agreed with which makes him a hypocrat.
No, it doesn't make me a hypocrite to townread someone I disagree with.
there is no fourth scenario I can think of about that theater. I know you must know your alignment so In my pov you should have screen as confscum.