In post 640, Loopdan wrote:town!Rasko wouldn't have rescinded the soft PR claim.
This is false. The point of that gambit is to bait the nk for that specific night and prevent CCs as-of-then. It failed in the former sense and retraction was 100% necessary on remaining alive as having the actual pr claim entirely defeats the purpose.
Yes, if you were VT that fake soft and rescind makes sense, but you aren't VT.
What I'm saying is that you are either doc or scum. And if you were actually doc you wouldn't have rescinded the claim.
In post 644, TheBrie wrote:My phone was malfunctioning last night so I couldn't post, but I had an idea similar to Huntress. I thought it unlikely due to Sickofits lack of suspicion of Rask.
I still think the idea that he found out something night one about Fred/Sobolev makes sense. Or rather found nothing.
But the only ways he could have found something on both Rask and Sobolev is if a) the theory Rask had about a 50-50 guess between two remaining suspects (but I'm not sure why Rask would be a suspect then) ; or b) Rask protected Sobolev N1 and there was no NK submitted. Neither of which actions makes sense. No one would protect Fred.
It makes more sense to track Fred, or another scummy looking person anyway.
Now I'm left wondering where Sick's push to lynch Lucca came from? Lucca being tracked is possibly, but it doesn't fit with the rest of our ideas.
Rasko was tracked. Selynee made it clear on 50-50 risky play. It was either exposing the doc or finding scum. Selynee found nothing about Fred.
Could Sicks request for BP to claim be an attempt to sort his results. Maybe he wanted to know if his target had protected someone or it was the failed NK.
If Rask is town, then the scum had to be someone clever enough to pick up that Sickofit was a PR. It couldn't have been random, or they would have picked Rask off just in case. Unless the other scum was a really stupid player. But they would have outed themself.
For now I'll wait gor more discussion and look through some other people.
In post 654, lucca261 wrote:Remember that Sicko wanted to know if a BP was hit? Because he tracked someone and was in doubt if he was the Doc or was scum.
In post 654, lucca261 wrote:Remember that Sicko wanted to know if a BP was hit? Because he tracked someone and was in doubt if he was the Doc or was scum.
Exactly.
The target is Rasko. 100%. Look at Selynee first post on D2, knowing that she is the tracker.
Sicko thought Rasko was the doc. You can read the underlines on his posts. Observe that in no post Sicko tries to read Rasko. He thought 100% that Rasko was the PR, probably because of Rasko reaction to Selynee's vote on him.
Rasko knew that the Sicko was the tracker too. He knew from the moment that Selynee voted him. That's why Sicko was killed tonight. Cause he was going to track Rasko again probably and realize Rasko was the last scum.
In post 660, lucca261 wrote:Sicko thought Rasko was the doc. You can read the underlines on his posts. Observe that in no post Sicko tries to read Rasko. He thought 100% that Rasko was the PR, probably because of Rasko reaction to Selynee's vote on him.
Makes sense.
One question though, Lucca. Back on page 17 you said a Fred lynch would clear Rasko more than it would clear Sensfan. Why was that again and what do you think now?
In post 660, lucca261 wrote:Sicko thought Rasko was the doc. You can read the underlines on his posts. Observe that in no post Sicko tries to read Rasko. He thought 100% that Rasko was the PR, probably because of Rasko reaction to Selynee's vote on him.
Makes sense.
One question though, Lucca. Back on page 17 you said a Fred lynch would clear Rasko more than it would clear Sensfan. Why was that again and what do you think now?
Also if Rask is doc, who would you scum read?
Because I didn't knew Selynee/Sicko was the tracker. It would clear at the time, but with this new informations, we know he is scum.
If by 1% chance Rasko is doc and not scum, Huntress. Rasko is scum though.
So how long do we wait around before hammering? Reading other games hasn't helped me figure out what to do in this situation, so I have no idea what's most usrful.
Also how long can I be V/LA without needing to be replaced?
I want to finish the game, but, starting in 4 hours, I might not be able to post till Friday.
If I haven't posted by Monday morning US time, you'll know I can't get on.
So ask me any questions you need now.
In post 666, TheBrie wrote:So how long do we wait around before hammering? Reading other games hasn't helped me figure out what to do in this situation, so I have no idea what's most usrful.
In post 667, TheBrie wrote:Also how long can I be V/LA without needing to be replaced?
I want to finish the game, but, starting in 4 hours, I might not be able to post till Friday.
If I haven't posted by Monday morning US time, you'll know I can't get on.
So ask me any questions you need now.
Two birds, one stone. Hammer before you take off.
Alternatively, we massclaim who we protected N1 if we were the Doc. It's a hedge between a massclaim and nothing. We guarantee to enter tomorrow with 1 confirmed Town, plus potentially a second one if multiple people claim the correct target and the Scum guess wrong about the Doctor. I can make the case for either that, or saying nothing and hoping we wake up tomorrow to two confirmed innocents.
(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
(11:05:35 PM) jhawk01b: my bold prediction for the year is that whoever wins the NFC West will have a winning record
In post 614, lucca261 wrote:This quote by Huntress feels like once Sobolev had a good answer, she would've switched her vote to Loopdan. But if things didn't work out, she would be voting Fred.
Nope. That quote was me saying that I had been prepared to give Sobolev time as she had just replaced in, but that post 503 had confirmed my scumread on that slot.
In post 617, Loopdan wrote:I think scum thought ^those posts weree Sick saying he doc'd Soblev and that's why scum NK'd Sick.
How does this fit in with the lack of a kill night one? Because obviously Fred wasn't the target so scum would know that wasn't the case.
I think I follow what you're saying with the mass doc claim. We'll know who the real doc is if they're killed and have a confirmed innocent. And if the scum misses, the doc can claim the next day.
Are you saying that's an alternative to lynching anyone, or a safe guard in case we miss?
What order do we claim?
I'll check back in an hour to see of anyone else has said anything.
In post 671, TheBrie wrote:I think I follow what you're saying with the mass doc claim. We'll know who the real doc is if they're killed and have a confirmed innocent. And if the scum misses, the doc can claim the next day.
Correct.
In post 671, TheBrie wrote:Are you saying that's an alternative to lynching anyone, or a safe guard in case we miss?
Alternative to getting the Doc to claim (and he dies tonight), or hiding the Doc (risking he dies with the info).
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TheBrie, since you're in a time crunch can you kick us off? Say who you protected (assuming you were the Doc), then pick who goes next.
(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
(11:05:35 PM) jhawk01b: my bold prediction for the year is that whoever wins the NFC West will have a winning record
