Newbie 1766 - Game Over
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the_end Townie
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Sofiel Townie
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Aeronaut He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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Sofiel Townie
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ThinkBig Jack of All Trades
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Aeronaut He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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rb Survivor
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rb Survivor
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Bad pushes are a part of the game, if you don't push people you can't sort them. Pushing aggressively on people is the #1 to sort slots. You have 1 vote, so you push 1 person until they towntell or someone else scumtells more.
I really didn't have the time irl to take over this game and force a lynch on The_end and I'm REALLY FUCKING ANNOYED that ssbm quickvoted in LyLo because I was going to literally scream and kick and shout until we lynched the_end and Aero.
Don't EVER do that as town, EVER. Literally the worst fucking thing.-
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rb Survivor
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lucca261 He/HimGoonHe/Him
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rb Survivor
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You weren't even scummy and it should have been really obvious when both the_end + aero went from wanting me lynched to wanting you lynched when I couldn't be lynched.In post 627, Sofiel wrote:It's comforting to know that the scumteam prediction was right lmao. It's a shame I ended up seeming scummy as town though ^^;
Or how Sofiel went from t_e's townreads to a convenient scumread when the push on me failed. And so on and so forth, I could write a wall of text on why you were actually fine as a player and I would have defended either you or ssbm to the death if not for quickvote.-
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You played fine, best player on D3In post 636, lucca261 wrote:Good game guys. I played really bad at D3. I wanted End lynched, but was too non-comitted to it to work.
But it was nice playing with you guys.-
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lucca261 He/HimGoonHe/Him
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I will say that you were definitely the best player on D3. I mean, you guessed the scumread instantly.In post 638, rb wrote:
You played fine, best player on D3In post 636, lucca261 wrote:Good game guys. I played really bad at D3. I wanted End lynched, but was too non-comitted to it to work.
But it was nice playing with you guys.
I love that when this games end and people are just out praising each other's egos. It's the best part of any game haha. you played exceptionally, rb.-
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rb Survivor
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lucca261 He/HimGoonHe/Him
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we definitely learned a lot haha.In post 640, rb wrote:I played poorly. Accuracy isn't worth a thing if you don't get the lynch.
in any case, I didn't get either the lynch or the accuracy. so that's nice.-
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This post was outstanding, and I don't know why you ever stopped with that line of reasoning btw.In post 577, lucca261 wrote:I think it's possible. If Sofiel is not scum, it's probable End with Aero.
Aero and Sofiel is impossible. (if Aero and Sofiel were scum, Sofiel wouldn't put Aero at L-1.)
RB and Aero is very improbable. (for all that happened)
Kyouko and Aero is impossible. (Kyouko would have hammered RB)
Aero and End is still possible.
Kyouko and Sofiel is impossible. (Kyouko would have hammered RB)
Kyouko and RB is impossible. (Kyouko would have hammered Aero)
Kyouko and Aero is impossible. (Kyouko would have hammered RB)
Kyouko and End is still possible.
Sofiel and Aero is impossible. (if Aero and Sofiel were scum, Sofiel wouldn't put Aero at L-1.)
Sofiel and Kyouko is impossible. (Kyouko would have hammered RB)
Sofiel and RB is improbable, but possible.
Sofiel and End is possible.
RB is only possible with Sofiel and End.
End is possible with everyone.
I say we lynch The_End today.
A thing I do is re-read my own posts every now and then in a game I'm playing, to keep track of what I was thinking throughout the game. It's much better.
Also, everything that scum say past like Day2 in a game this size is irrelevant as it all basically becomes wifom. The reason I told everyone to go back and find possible scumteams etc. is so that you go and read the earlier interactions with fresh eyes after a bunch of town flips, to determine what makes actual sense, not just 'this person said a scummy thing' in isolation. That's how you win games as town, you re-read, you deliberate together and you come to the decision that makes SENSE. This post came after I just wanted to prod dodge afaik, and literally reading this post and seeing how sensible someone in the game was still being re-motivated me to keep playing.
Don't forget why you wanted certain slots dead, and don't forget why you town-read certain slots either. People have a tendency to dispose of older information as if somehow someone gets less scummy because the things you saw that were scummy are a couple of days old (game days, not irl days) - when realistically, it's the early-mid portion of games where scum are easiest to find because:
1. there's more of them, you're more likely to spot collusion
2. they have to post more because there's more players and more activity, more chance of slipping up and if not, they're probably lurking it out
3. they've had less time to adapt to the town players, they don't know how the town plays yet, they have to find the cracks to hide in
Always review earlier game, always review your own thought processes. Think less along the lines of, "who is giving off scumtells" because "scumtells" are just things that you will see if you read people's posts. Instead look for how each slot compares to another, take note of the votes - who is voting who and WHY. What about that guy with their vote parked on the same person since RVS? Why? What's that for? What makes sense from a TOWN perspective, who is trying to lynch scum and who's trying to get a mislynch. Later game with more flips it's about discerning who makes sense with others.
Call me arrogant but I'm pretty sure that I'm one of the most accurate scumhunters on the site when town.-
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Aeronaut He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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In post 638, rb wrote:
You played fine, best player on D3In post 636, lucca261 wrote:Good game guys. I played really bad at D3. I wanted End lynched, but was too non-comitted to it to work.
But it was nice playing with you guys.2023 W/L | 1-0-
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lucca261 He/HimGoonHe/Him
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oh thanxs for the praise, rb. any knowledge is good, even more coming from an arrogant guy like you. (joking)In post 643, rb wrote:
This post was outstanding, and I don't know why you ever stopped with that line of reasoning btw.In post 577, lucca261 wrote:I think it's possible. If Sofiel is not scum, it's probable End with Aero.
Aero and Sofiel is impossible. (if Aero and Sofiel were scum, Sofiel wouldn't put Aero at L-1.)
RB and Aero is very improbable. (for all that happened)
Kyouko and Aero is impossible. (Kyouko would have hammered RB)
Aero and End is still possible.
Kyouko and Sofiel is impossible. (Kyouko would have hammered RB)
Kyouko and RB is impossible. (Kyouko would have hammered Aero)
Kyouko and Aero is impossible. (Kyouko would have hammered RB)
Kyouko and End is still possible.
Sofiel and Aero is impossible. (if Aero and Sofiel were scum, Sofiel wouldn't put Aero at L-1.)
Sofiel and Kyouko is impossible. (Kyouko would have hammered RB)
Sofiel and RB is improbable, but possible.
Sofiel and End is possible.
RB is only possible with Sofiel and End.
End is possible with everyone.
I say we lynch The_End today.
A thing I do is re-read my own posts every now and then in a game I'm playing, to keep track of what I was thinking throughout the game. It's much better.
Also, everything that scum say past like Day2 in a game this size is irrelevant as it all basically becomes wifom. The reason I told everyone to go back and find possible scumteams etc. is so that you go and read the earlier interactions with fresh eyes after a bunch of town flips, to determine what makes actual sense, not just 'this person said a scummy thing' in isolation. That's how you win games as town, you re-read, you deliberate together and you come to the decision that makes SENSE. This post came after I just wanted to prod dodge afaik, and literally reading this post and seeing how sensible someone in the game was still being re-motivated me to keep playing.
Don't forget why you wanted certain slots dead, and don't forget why you town-read certain slots either. People have a tendency to dispose of older information as if somehow someone gets less scummy because the things you saw that were scummy are a couple of days old (game days, not irl days) - when realistically, it's the early-mid portion of games where scum are easiest to find because:
1. there's more of them, you're more likely to spot collusion
2. they have to post more because there's more players and more activity, more chance of slipping up and if not, they're probably lurking it out
3. they've had less time to adapt to the town players, they don't know how the town plays yet, they have to find the cracks to hide in
Always review earlier game, always review your own thought processes. Think less along the lines of, "who is giving off scumtells" because "scumtells" are just things that you will see if you read people's posts. Instead look for how each slot compares to another, take note of the votes - who is voting who and WHY. What about that guy with their vote parked on the same person since RVS? Why? What's that for? What makes sense from a TOWN perspective, who is trying to lynch scum and who's trying to get a mislynch. Later game with more flips it's about discerning who makes sense with others.
Call me arrogant but I'm pretty sure that I'm one of the most accurate scumhunters on the site when town.
definitely will use this on my next games. you're a fun player to play together, man.
reading again my process, I think I wanted Kyouko dead so much. so much. I wasn't looking for scum, I was looking for Kyouko's partner. And that's why I wasn't more accurate.-
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Well as a rule I really think it's bad to scum-associate before either a scumflip or many townflips. I was confident calling t_e + aero scumteam after seeing a bunch of flips but that isn't really how you should play generally.
If you wanted ssbm dead you have to push him so that his slot can get sorted and you can move on or change your mind. Town should just always focus on their top scumreads for that reason, otherwise you just get confbiased.
Also you have to cooperate with your townreads. If you townread someone strongly and you have conflicting ideas about who is scum, reach a compromise.-
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