(NSFW) Mini 1882 - TPTG Mafia 1.5: The Fappening (NoWins)

[dramonic]

actually the permanent lovers count as 1

playerslot

so scum can't kill anyone tonight.

And it's less about my hatred for Jaqen's posting and more about not synching with the non-kinkies to force the death onto a chosen target.
But I hate both.

[dramonic]

That request from Jaqen without preparing the second round does show us what a quality player he is though.

Really? This one is throwing poo on a man's game again just because you wish to not read in the second person?

In all fairness, mafia is a game about semantics and language, and you're insisting on destroying our standards of semantics and language. It makes it annoying to try to read.

Fuck me harder I can't take this sexiness.

[KuroiXHF]

Looks like we get another chance now?

It's time to do this, and I'll get properly caught up from my weekend v/la later today.

Get kinky with - Snarky

I scum read both Snarky and ThinkBig, but I think I'm just more pissed off at Snarky for being in this game when I told her I don't want to play with her, and I have to play to win.

[podoboq]

I scum read both Snarky and ThinkBig, but I think I'm just more pissed off at Snarky for being in this game when I told her I don't want to play with her, and I have to play to win.

This pings me really hard. Particularly, the "I have to play to win," reads LAMIST as fuck.

[KuroiXHF]

What does LAMIST mean?

[ThinkBig]

Sorry I have had a pretty busy week. Wish I could have been more active.

What does LAMIST mean?

LAMIST = Look at me, I'm so town.

[KuroiXHF]

Oh. Yeah, I can see how you can read it like that, but whatever. If it's someone I actively scum read vs someone whose entire Mafia career is a snooze.

[Fresh]

actually the permanent lovers count as 1

playerslot

so scum can't kill anyone tonight.

My intrigue level is now over 9000 when it comes to who is lynched and how he chooses who gets the book. Interesting.

[KuroiXHF]

Those I town read (or at least null read):
podoboq
shos
Fresh
KuroiXHF
dramonic
RachMarie
Gorkington
All In
nn30

Probably too many, but they'll sort themselves out later.

so uh

expplain the top 2?

Sure. I don't scum read the two.
Also, this list isn't in any order.

[KuroiXHF]

Fair enough. To be completely honest, the young link pic creeped me out and I probably should have checked on this in sign ups but I felt super uncomfortable about the prospect, even in game, of doing this to a minor.

So yeah - glad we got that squared away. I'm still leaning on tapping All Alone, but I want some more interaction.

nn, wanna chat with me? I'm not getting much from you.

All Alone?
You're my first choice out of everyone left too.

was this a joke or was it really intended for Kuroi? were you/are you townreading him?

Yeah I'm townreading Kuroi. His approach with Snarky reminded me of the "Pokemon: ep 6" game where he acted the same around Snarky and where he was town. He couldn't mention that before, but the game has finished now, so feel free to check that game yourself. I've modded a number of games Kuroi played in as both town and scum, so I'd like to think I can read Kuroi pretty well.

I don't recognize this username. Stupid question, but are you Radja?

[KuroiXHF]

You still haven't come up with the game. This is the biggest part of my issue with you. I've asked you to come up with a game, more than once. Over and over again and instead of giving me a simple answer, you're dancing around with me.

News flash – it is pointless to ask. I’m not making some big meta case on you Kuroi. Your play here stands on its own as scummy. I looked at a past common game as a sanity check, found that I didn’t see anything that contradicted my thoughts on your play here, and moved forward with calling out your scum play.

This is classic scum straw-manning – you are trying to establish that I’m not stating some game I’m suspecting you for bad reasons and basically ignoring the plethora of reasons stated in this very thread. Yet another reason you are my top scum read.

I’m honestly pissed as hell that Rach submarined the chance to arrange for you to be kicked out today thus giving your scummy self a chance to save yourself in the Second Chances coming soon.

This is what you said, MoI:

Kuroi I see as showing active scum posting. I have a game I want to go back and look at but right now he’d be the top of my “Adios suckers” list and the one I think stands the best chance of flipping scum.

Sure, it's not a case, but you think I'm scum and I want to know why. It's deceptive to the other players and right now, if you're town, it's confbiasing. I'm totally understanding I'm probably the scummiest person here (and I have a huge history of being mislynched as a result - see Mass Effect Mafia, Gistou Mafia, etc. for town roles where I've been lynched Day One).

And there's no straw manning. I never said you've had a huge case you've been unwilling to share; I've said that you've been fucking around with me and dancing around with me.

If you don't want to respond, that's fine. Just say so.

[dramonic]

It's deceptive to the other players

You really think we'll listen to MoI's white noise?

[KuroiXHF]

It's deceptive to the other players

You really think we'll listen to MoI's white noise?

Maybe yes. Maybe no. I mean, MoI is actually a seasoned veteran here and even if not - you'd think no one would click on the miracle dick-growing pills you'd see on the shady porn websites, but they make their money somehow.

[dramonic]

With age comes wisdom.
Or senility.

-v('_')v-

[KuroiXHF]

With age comes wisdom.
Or senility.

-v('_')v-

Wisdom is not in this game.

[shos]

I scum read both Snarky and ThinkBig, but I think I'm just more pissed off at Snarky for being in this game when I told her I don't want to play with her, and I have to play to win.

This pings me really hard. Particularly, the "I have to play to win," reads LAMIST as fuck.

right???????

I said to gork, this is a scum pair imo.

@fresh - you are assuming we have only 1 dude lynched today. we need that to happen - if 2 die then scum can kill.

[shos]

that quick survivalistic attempt at kinkying snowman is a hard scumtell for me on kuroi. if a mislynch happens, make that couple lovers, please.

[MagnaofIllusion]

So as we wait to see if ThinkBig is lynched or not …

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poor thing, you probably didn't notice I was vla did you <3

Has nothing to do with activity in general. You being V/LA is expected. I’m just not really believing that the Shos who was so strident in Purge about planning and trying to crack the set-up is “stumped” by this one.

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Yeah I'm townreading Kuroi. His approach with Snarky reminded me of the "Pokemon: ep 6" game where he acted the same around Snarky and where he was town. He couldn't mention that before, but the game has finished now, so feel free to check that game yourself. I've modded a number of games Kuroi played in as both town and scum, so I'd like to think I can read Kuroi pretty well.

Ugh. First a terrible reason to Townread Kuroi (he did this as Town in a recent game … despite the fact that being a prima-donna about Snarky is absolutely not alignment indicative). And then a “I’ve modded Kuroi so I can read him”.

Link to the games you modded and share what you think differentiates scum Kuroi from Town Kuroi.

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I scum read both Snarky and ThinkBig, but I think I'm just more pissed off at Snarky for being in this game when I told her I don't want to play with her, and I have to play to win.

From someone (falsely) claiming I’m not giving reasons why I am scum-reading you this is quite the cognitive dissonance …

I’ve already touched on why Kuroi’s scum read on Snarky is bad and fairly opportunistic. But let’s talk about his supposed Thinkbig scum read. Here are relevant quotes from his ISO.

ThinkBig may be scum.

I don't like this post. I don't remember, since it's been a while since i've played with Goofball, but these scattered and unsubstantiated posts are more annoying than helpful. Sure, it's probably gut, and this might be town, but this is really lame.

Not a read on Think but reads as a chainsaw. And yet let’s look at the very next time he addresses Think and his read there.

Post 97 makes me begin scum reading ThinkBig, although that's just gut.

This is absolutely the exact same thing he just said was “Really lame” about DGB’s post – a gut, unsubstantiated read on Think with no backing. Cognitive Dissonance in action.

I agree as well. He's been dodgy and his high post count has been deceiving. It's unlike his usual play. A lot comes out from his mouth, but he's not really saying much.

Here is another soft and unsubstantiated accusation. How is it not like Think’s usual play? Where are the link supporting the Town meta you infer he isn’t playing to?

And that is completely it for everything Kuroi has said about Think in thread.

So we have poorly defined scum reads on two of the easiest targets in thread (Snarky for being himself, Think for lurking and being a consensus “Would not care if lynched” player at this stage) and OMGUS on me.

I think that shows why Kuroi’s Town as well as everything else I have posted. No depth or development to how he approaches the game. Just continual defense of self and weak, weak scum-hunting.

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You really think we'll listen to MoI's white noise?

I think he was addressing the players who aren’t inherently terrible Dram so you aren’t really included in his target audience.

[dramonic]

that quick survivalistic attempt at kinkying snowman is a hard scumtell for me on kuroi. if a mislynch happens, make that couple lovers, please.

I'm so glad we're gonna have to baby you through yet another game.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Sure, it's not a case, but you think I'm scum and I want to know why. It's deceptive to the other players and right now, if you're town, it's confbiasing. I'm totally understanding I'm probably the scummiest person here (and I have a huge history of being mislynched as a result - see Mass Effect Mafia, Gistou Mafia, etc. for town roles where I've been lynched Day One).

And there's no straw manning. I never said you've had a huge case you've been unwilling to share; I've said that you've been fucking around with me and dancing around with me.

If you don't want to respond, that's fine. Just say so.

And again – bullshit posturing. I’ve shared plenty of concrete thoughts and reasons why your play is scum motivated. Appealing to Repitition that I’m not isn’t going to work. Hell – as I just pointed out I’ve laid down ten times the amount of reasoning for my scum read on you than the support you’ve laid for your weak Snarky and Thinkbig reads.

@Everyone not scumKuroi and dramonic

– Here is a reminder of the many tangible posts I have made regarding why Kuroi is scummy ... just so his continual “You aren’t explaining” lie can be put to rest for good –

Here’s my second early scum-read. 6 pages is not something that requires “Serious catching up” given that there is a ton of RP fluffery going on.

My initial reason for seeing him as scum – the “Oh woe is me 6 Pages” was overdone given the content of those 6 pages and pointless posturing.

Well here are those I'm considering giving the KuroiXXXHF:

Fresh
All In
nn30

nn, wanna chat with me? I'm not getting much from you.

Why did you consider nn30 as “KuroiFuckable” in 222 if you aren’t getting enough from the slot?

Again – I see this as indicating he isn’t actually developing reads (which scum don’t have to … they are the informed minority). His explanation actually doesn’t answer the question –

I took out the people who I have reservations about on some level.

I feel better scum-reading someone for something they've said that I don't like rather than scum-reading someone for inactivity. We just got past a weekend and game just began. Plus, effort isn't necessarily alignment indicative.

Why would you not have some reservations about someone you “aren’t getting enough from”? And note the bolded above directly contradicts the little reason he’s stated for scum-reading ThinkBig.

I dislike 228 as I have huge doubts that Kuroi has never played or modded a game with SnarkySnowman. He has to know what to expect. This post has all the hallmarks of LAMIST, pointless lecturing. The only think giving me reservations is that Podo is quick to buddy up to him and Podo is still in my pool of scum.

This is pretty concrete posting BTW – his posting in 228 read as pointlessly LAMIST given Snarky’s well known tendencies.

Nope. But that’s of course not the point. I find it is an easy refuge for scum these days to say “Whelp, I can’t read MoI” as a way to refuse to commit to read on me until it there is a popular opinion to follow.

Self explanatory.

Until you actually produce something worth reading, I'm going to just ignore you.

Yeah, I’d be more than happy to have this be kicked from the Orgy today.

To clarify since I wasn’t as explicit as in other posts – this post directed at DGB shows the exact opposite approach to how he attacking my posts about him. DGB is just saying he is scummy. Has done so twice. But he isn’t saying “Show why you think I am scummy … I didn’t come to dance I came to fuck” to DGB as he is with me. Nope – he’s going to “I’ll just ignore you”.

If Kuroi was so honestly worked up that I’m not being clear (which is a fabrication as this post shows) why isn’t he flipping out on DGB for the same reason? The answer – it is easy to just ignore DGB who is out with surgery. No need to rile her up and have two players potential firing all bullets his way. I on the other hand have been fully engaged so no point trying to dodge me. Thus his invented stance.

I think I've figured MoI out. If you disagree with him, you must be scum. I'm not quite sure if MoI is turning into an asshole, if he was, or if this is him being scum and deciding that's how he's going to play this game.

Lol. This ticks boxes for discrediting (he’s just calling me scum for disagreeing with him when he doesn’t think Dram is scum) and fence-sitting (oh, maybe he’s just an asshole and maybe he’s scum) in one short post. Nice accomplishment!

And another …

podoboq, this is my first game with you, but you're going to have to trust me about Snarky. We have history.

Not buying this in the least. Anyone who has played any amount of games with Snarky knows that he’s “Neutral Useless” as any alignment. The fact that you are seem to be scum-reading him for every action he is taking is suspect and looks like you’ve found that “safe” scum read to pressure.

Yet another specific reason I think you are scum. Pointed this out since you apparently need signposts from your earlier “It’s too general” posting.

he does not feel like he did in Princess Bride where he was scum

Uhhh... I was actually the mod in the game, silly goose.

Another reason the whole “I just can’t read him” falls flat … you saw me up close and personal as Mafia in your game and saw me as both Town and Scum in SirCakez’s DC Dual Universe game …

So plenty to chew on as to showing that Kuroi’s posts to me show not Town play but scum intent. Kind of hard to sell as “being too vague”, huh?

[KuroiXHF]

I've tried to read this, but I'm beginning to get legitimately frustrated (inb4 "AtE!!!!!111one11") so I'm taking the night off, or at least the night off responding to MoI, because it's so much easier to call me a liar than to simply answer my questions when you really got nothing.

[MagnaofIllusion]

I've tried to read this, but I'm beginning to get legitimately frustrated (inb4 "AtE!!!!!111one11") so I'm taking the night off, or at least the night off responding to MoI, because it's so much easier to call me a liar than to simply answer my questions when you really got nothing.

Read this, read 519, read this again and tell me that Kuroi isn't scum ...

[Fresh]

@fresh - you are assuming we have only 1 dude lynched today. we need that to happen - if 2 die then scum can kill.

Mathematically this absolutely cannot happen.

Either 1 gets lynched or all 3. One of them has to fuck another which saves them. Guaranteed 1 or 3 die.

[KuroiXHF]

I've tried to read this, but I'm beginning to get legitimately frustrated (inb4 "AtE!!!!!111one11") so I'm taking the night off, or at least the night off responding to MoI, because it's so much easier to call me a liar than to simply answer my questions when you really got nothing.

Read this, read 519, read this again and tell me that Kuroi isn't scum ...

Sometimes I don't feel like MoI is even reading my posts anymore.

[God of Power Outlets]

Get kinky with - Snarky

As KuroiXHF and SnarkySnowman join hands, the voice of the Trouser Gods once again booms from the heavens. A golden hue shines down on the Commune.

"Well done, my lovelies. A pity, I see that one of you has not a partner for St. Cuckold's day."

ThinkBig looks around in a panic. "But... I can find someone! Right?! There's still time! There's still.... NO!"

ThinkBig begins weeping openly, his genitals wilting into nothing, leaving him as useless as a Ken doll. The weeping gives way to sobbing and he clutches his chest, finally dying of unfulfilled sexual desire.

"Very well," says the booming Trouser Gods. "Only through freezing out your enemies can we truly enjoy---"

"Uhhh, your lordships?" says one Communer, examining the corpse.

"Yes?"

"I don't think this guy was an enemy," says the Communer.

With this, ThinkBig's soul rises out of the corpse.

"Wow. You've got be kidding me! You guys killed me?! Come ON," says the ghost of ThinkBig. "Sure, I was a little afraid of the wild and wacky stuff you guys were into, but I was FAITHFUL to the Trouser Gods! And now I'm dead! Oh man... what if... what if there's no Heaven?"

"Of course there's a Heaven," says the Trouser Gods. "Where do you think I live?"

"What if the Commune is destroyed?! What if nobody ever gets laid again?! WHAT IF I GO TO HELL!? WHAT IF THE BAD GUYS WIN?!"

"Calm down, Scardy," says the Trouser God. "For Me's Sake, you're really getting---"

"WHAT IF YOU GUYS FORGET TO BURY ME?! WHAT IF NO ONE TELLS MY FAMILY?!"

"Shut up for two---"

"What if you guys DO tell my family?! What will they think?! They don't even know I live here!"

"SILENCE," The Trouser God shouts adulterously. "Here, take this book. Give it to the couple you want to become permanent. Then get your dead ass up here to Heaven. Your Trouser Gods will make you feel better."

"OH MAN! A DECISION?! WHAT IF I MAKE THE WRONG CHOICE?! WHAT IF I DOOM US ALL!?"

ThinkBig's ghost receives the Book of Love.

Dead

ThinkBig - Spunk the Scardy Skunk

"WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT? BEHIND YOU? IS THAT A DICK? WHAT THE FUCK DON'T SNEAK UP LIKE THAT!! WHAT? YOU SCARED, BITCH? Did you...did you shit yourself? Is that why you're called the Scardy Skunk? Dude, whatever. Change your pants and get to work."

Kinks: Furries, Rubberists
Off-Limits: S&M, Sodomy

You win when free love, sex, and depravity can be allowed to reign and nothing can prevent this.

It is now Twilight. ThinkBig will decide whom receives the Book of Love by PMing me. After that, all other pairs will be dissolved, the night phase will be executed, and Day 2 will begin.