Mini Normal 1890 - Endgame

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VOTE: Elena Fisher

Obligatory scumread.

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That was quick.

VOTE: Boon

Standard.

Sorry bro, I thought we agreed I'd post first.

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keyen! You did make it!

Topkek

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A free Grey vote? Count me in

VOTE: Grey

You're such a flirt.

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I normally try to make a username joke vote or something.

But nothing is popping out at me as even marginally funny.

VOTE: Jaack

Serious vote.

This can hang right now.

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Unlike the vanity wagon on Magna, I've caught scum on p1.

Dude is trying too hard to be nonchalant when he's obviously totally chalant.

Read post 11 out loud. Nobody actually talks like that. Constructed post is constructed.

Killify Jaack for great justice.

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I agree wagons are fun let's start one shall we?

If you loved wagons so much why didn’t you make a vote to start one originally?

Because it's a free Grey vote

Ily2 bae

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Ily2 bae

Do you love me though?

Sure do. Deep fried with a side of mashed potatoes.

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I'm pretty good at this game. You should just sheep me

I'll sheep you once you decide to bus Jaack.

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grey 21 is a reach.

Only in the sense that it reaches across the internet and slaps you across the forehead with its mushroom stamp of scumhunting goodness.

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I'd lynch barley if they were gladiated.

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pedit: gladiated?

If the moderator declared only you or sheep could be voted, I'd vote you.

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alt.

I find that difficult to believe, considering you don't know what gladiation is.

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I wonder if 2F is scum here.

I was expecting some sort of vendetta vote against me. Him avoiding me feels like scum dodging confrontation.

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Why would I vendetta vote you? Just cause I don't think you're a good player doesn't mean I'm going to vote you. Besides I'd rather lynch my scum read, which is what I'm trying to do.

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=69727 - scum win
viewtopic.php?f=51&t=69517 - successfully drew the NK with cop crumb as VT
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=69360 - on scum lynch d1 (replaced out due to mod error, showing unredacted role pm, which I pointed out to Aero to maintain game integrity)
viewtopic.php?f=53&t=69704 - strong-armed a scum lynch d1, on two scum lynches before I died n2
viewtopic.php?f=83&t=69960 - won as scum
viewtopic.php?f=83&t=69221 - replaced in, hammered scum based off two pages, and got NK'ed.
viewtopic.php?f=53&t=69502 - derpclaimed because I thought I was in a different game in the newbie queue (not my best moment for sure)
viewtopic.php?f=53&t=69859 - admittedly an off game
viewtopic.php?f=51&t=69831 - pulled out a scum win after my entire fucking team suicided
viewtopic.php?f=53&t=69833 - just as bad as everybody else
viewtopic.php?f=50&t=69882 - bulldozed a townie that pegged me early as scum into backing off for the entire game; won as scum
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=69849 - replaced out early, doesn't count for much other than to say my slot wasn't suspected until I was gone
viewtopic.php?f=51&t=70094 - I played Judas beautifully, I was pretty much lockdown. My only sin was attributing the only successful werewolf kill in the game to bring a vig shot (had no idea it was multiball)
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=69916 - mislynched in 3-way LyLo after being on and pushing to lynches on scum
viewtopic.php?f=56&t=69418 - not great play, I wasn't invested in the game due to the prevalence of mech talk
viewtopic.php?f=51&t=69822 - early replace out for reasons, mozamis griped at me in post-game for replacing out because I was the strongest member of the scum team.
viewtopic.php?f=50&t=69444 - successfully fished the n1 NK as a VT. Again.
viewtopic.php?f=50&t=69550 - won as scum

VOTE: Two Face

Tell me more about what a bad player I am.

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Now I disagree with magna' original reasons for his push but he seemed to believe them. His vote change to me is bad because he just flushed that conviction down the toilet for even worse reasoning.

That's why I'm saying without a shadow of a doubt magna is scum. He gave up something he believed in for something non AI. Town just doesn't do that.

Oh look, a scum post.

Your read on magna is a crock of shit, because scum can't believe their pushes.

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Secondly scum can absolutely believe in their pushes. thats the best way to play as scum, push things that you know are scummy, things you would push as town.

That's not being on your push, it's simply being consistent with your town meta... which isn't at all the same thing.

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Secondly scum can absolutely believe in their pushes. thats the best way to play as scum, push things that you know are scummy, things you would push as town.

That's not believing in your push, it's simply being consistent with your town meta... which isn't at all the same thing.

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You miss the point of my original post. Not surprising.

You can't say that someone who sincerely believes the person they are pushing is scum, because scum cannot actually believe in their own pushes, regardless of whether they would make that same push as town or not.

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Idgaf about your deflection, because you scumclaimed.

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@Grey You said you had godly scumhunting.

That's a ridiculous misrep.

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Why did you take a backseat in 61, create a lynchpool that was meaningless and tell us who you would lynch in it sans scumhunting?

It's d1.

If anybody has the answers on d1, it's because they're scum.

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Well that is L-1 let's see if Boon swoops in to hammer without a claim ...

Nah... you don't have to worry about him.

VOTE: Magna

Since you knew a hammer was imminent, you had your chance to claim.

Toodles.

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Or he isn't as gullible as Grey since that wasn't a hammer ...

Seems you're the gullible one, because momo replaced sheep & put you back at L-1.

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Seems you're the gullible one, because momo replaced sheep & put you back at L-1.

Lol. momo replaced Cch who never posted ...

You were at L-1.

Sheep unvoted.

Momo voted you, putting you back at L-1.

I hammered.

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Seems you're the gullible one, because momo replaced sheep & put you back at L-1.

Lol. momo replaced Cch who never posted ...

You were at L-1.

Sheep unvoted.

Momo voted you, putting you back at L-1.

I hammered.

Momo did not replace sheep. He's not hammered.

He replaced sheep ON THE WAGON

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What if I'm scum trying to end the day early?

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Less so Grey and Elena, but I have noted the stances they have taken during the argument.

What stance have I taken?

I just threw down what I perceived to be a hammer vote and have been too lazy to move it due to my ignorance of just wtf is actually happening.

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Now I disagree with magna' original reasons for his push but he seemed to believe them. His vote change to me is bad because he just flushed that conviction down the toilet for even worse reasoning.

That's why I'm saying without a shadow of a doubt magna is scum. He gave up something he believed in for something non AI. Town just doesn't do that.

Oh look, a scum post.

Your read on magna is a crock of shit, because scum can't believe their pushes.

Secondly scum can absolutely believe in their pushes. thats the best way to play as scum, push things that you know are scummy, things you would push as town.

That's not being on your push, it's simply being consistent with your town meta... which isn't at all the same thing.

This

147 maybe, but 153 is theory fluff.

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What do you make of the fact I'm now on the Magna wagon when I scumread 2F?

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My vote on Matt was never because I had a sr on him quite the opposite

If you're town please quit mafia forever.

I have a sudden urge to sheep Elena.

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My vote on Matt was never because I had a sr on him quite the opposite

If you're town please quit mafia forever.

I have a sudden urge to sheep Elena.

Stop you're gonna make me blush

This, I gotta see.

VOTE: Boonskiies

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Don't try to meta me; I'm too self aware of my meta.

My meta beats your meta up and takes its lunch money.

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My vote on Matt was never because I had a sr on him quite the opposite

If you're town please quit mafia forever.

I have a sudden urge to sheep Elena.

Stop you're gonna make me blush

This, I gotta see.

VOTE: Boonskiies

This one is just bad. Naked vote. Could be scum, but could be just a terrible townie.

Jump off the fence. Which is it?

That's not my only post in the game.

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Oh noez, I'm Scum!

Somebody inform the mod so they can send me a new role pm.

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Lol

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Now vote your scum buddy, Grey.

K

VOTE: Boonskiiiiiiies

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I'm done bussing Boon.

Time to bus Elena.

VOTE: Elena

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Sorry. I actually implied it by saying if she's town to quit mafia forever.

You should be a little more clear about why you say what you say.

I didn't know she was voting a townread or I wouldn't have sheeped her even as a joke.

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I'm done bussing Boon.

Time to bus Elena.

VOTE: Elena

Inform the mod! It's not allowed to claim scum with a
buddy!!

VOTE: Elena

Oh noez!

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YOU GIVE ME THAT SCUMREAD BACK RIGHT THIS INSTANCE, MISTER!

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You say I'm scum for voting a townread? That's really bad logic. I want to see Boon's case on me though.

Yeah, but we both know I'm plagued with that anyway.

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Well any utility you had is gone now.

You didn't even wait until L-1, let alone intent.

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Go ahead, try and lynch me. I'm a slippery fuck.

I'm always town read when I'm scum, and scum read when I'm town.

Inconsistent narrative is inconsistent.

First, he's all confident about being able to avoid the noose, then within minutes he's saying uncle.

VOTE: Boonskiies

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UNVOTE:

This shit is hilarious.

Terrible..

But hilarious.

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UNVOTE:

This shit is hilarious.

Terrible..

But hilarious.

When should we tell everybody we're actually Masons? Are we still waiting until LyLo for that?
Grey, I hope you know, I actually truly appreciate you in this game. You make me laugh.

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Shit wrong thread.

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He can't explain it cause he knows I'm not

VOTE: Two Face

Tag. You're it.

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Cop/gunsmith - if we have one of you, investigate me and end this charade toNight, haha.

There is no cop or gunsmith

Look, this guy knows what's in the game. Scum slip.

How does scum know what town PR's are in the game?

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Cop/gunsmith - if we have one of you, investigate me and end this charade toNight, haha.

There is no cop or gunsmith

Look, this guy knows what's in the game. Scum slip.

How does scum know what town PR's are in the game?

First I'm not scum
Second I know there is no cop/gunsmith cause of reasons.

Read my post, and keep rereading it until you figure out what I'm asking.

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You're asking how scum know what PRs are in the game.

I don't think scum knows which PRs are in the game.


Better?

Not really. That was kinda the point I was making @ Boon, but you felt the need to Garcia it.

Why?

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Regardless of your alignment I don't give a rats ass what you have to say post game

See, he slipped. He knows I'm town with this post.

That kind of hyperbole is NAI for 2F.

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and I thought Grey in the last game we played was a handful

Don't I keep things interesting, though?

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My real name is Benjamin Franklin Piece.

I served in the 4077th Mobile Army Surgical Hospital unit.

True or lie?

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TF, you JFSF bro?

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No offense meant.

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Disagree and please don't call me a fool or a ful

He was obviously calling you al.

Don't be a ful.

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I am kind of reading both MoI and Two Face as town now because both seem genuinely insulted at the other dissing on their play skills, and that reads honest - and what they're insulting is their town skill, not their scum skill.

Don't fall into that trap. Even a newbie can pull it off.

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ISO LadyeA

She lived until 3-way LyLo because I made the same assumption you're making now.

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@Grey You said you had godly scumhunting.

That's a ridiculous misrep.

Not much of a misrep. Godly vs. goodness. Was that still an example of 'good scumhunting' or scumhunting at all?

If anybody has the answers on d1, it's because they're scum.

Going to double down on your shenanigans, are you?

Okay. Quote where I said this.

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Look guy, I wrote in my notes that you said you had godly scumhunting when you said

grey 21 is a reach.

Only in the sense that it reaches across the internet and slaps you across the forehead with its mushroom stamp of scumhunting goodness.

now stop dodging and start making sense

So apparently you are unable to recognize snark.

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I mean, I thought the mushroom stamp bit made that rather obvious.

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There was seemingly no motive for you to make post 61, but you still made it to throw fuel on Sheep vs. Barley. Is that why you're choosing not to answer?

Just what the fuck exactly are you expecting me to answer when you're not asking me a question?

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I almost felt guilty for expecting you to know what a mushroom stamp was, but you're twenty fucking four.

Stop being obtuse.

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There was seemingly no motive for you to make post 61, but you still made it to throw fuel on Sheep vs. Barley. Is that why you're choosing not to answer?

Just what the fuck exactly are you expecting me to answer when you're not asking me a question?

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Why did you take a backseat in 61, create a lynchpool that was meaningless and tell us who you would lynch in it sans scumhunting?

Because there isn't shit all happening that is the least bit interesting and my attention is elsewhere.

Common for d1, really.

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Sure, why not.

VOTE: Elena

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My update is I like Lycan more for town and Grey more for scum.

@Grey, what's your take on Magna?

Lol @ calling me scum and then thinking I'd be interested in talking to you.

Get back to me when you pull your head out of your ass.

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I don't recall electing you to be the spokesperson for everybody, 2F.

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I don't recall carrying what you asked for.

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I don't recall caring what you asked for.

Or that.

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Shutting down all communication is helpful for scum and not helpful for town.
Also, why are you talking to me like I'm town reading you wrong but also refusing communication? If you are town, wouldn't you want to provide me more info to sort you better?
I think the Magna question is reasonable and straight forward regardless of me scum or town reading you, and would still like you to answer it.

Not really.

I'm a pretty difficult person.

Also, I'm not townreading you. You're null to me.

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Do you find being difficult to help as a town win plan and intentionally do it, or do you consider cooperation to be utterly unconnected to town winning?

I cooperate with town reads. You do nothing to make me want to cooperate with you.

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You can if you click his profile link.

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Fair point.

Consider the issue addressed.

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668 is a shit post.

I could see myself lynching that.

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668 is a shit post.

I could see myself lynching that.

Yeah, but I can see it flipping town. But what has sheep done in general?

Idk, I was three hours away from a prod.

You can't expect much depth from me when I'm treading water.

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Defensive, much?

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676 should have made it clear that I wasn't all that invested in 673.

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Wow.

Seems I struck a nerve.

VOTE: Cooperative Sheep

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Awfully antsy over one vote.

I'm happy with keeping it on you because you are looking like scum caught for the wrong reasons.

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Awfully antsy over one vote.

I'm happy with keeping it on you because you are looking like scum caught for the wrong reasons.

Just sticking with this.

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Nah momo, sheep got awfully twisted over a half-hearted post (a glorified prod dodge) that didn't paint him in a shining town light and then doubled down after my vote.

He's scum.

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Nah momo, sheep got awfully twisted over a half-hearted post (a glorified prod dodge) that didn't paint him in a shining town light and then doubled down after my vote.

He's scum.

That's like a pebble compared to what boon and magna have done. Those are boulders.

We lynch boon first. Than magna. We can evaluate sheep afterwards

I'm not lynching Boonie over a d1 meltdown.

He gains nothing as Scum by going nuclear.

Granted, I haven't really been paying attention to much else aside from the you/Boon spat, so i need to read up on Magna.

Liking my sheep read though, because he feels like he knows I'm right with bad logic.

Like, town would have just seen my blatant prod dodge, called me an idiot and shrugged it off for what it is. Scum!Sheep can't afford to have ANY negativity on him to be believed, so he has to fight it anywhere it crops up.

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Boon's attitude or whatever feels NAI, but I'm leaning town on it at first.

However, he claimed, what was it? 1-shot BP? and immediately said that was a lie.

That doesn't feel right and it doesn't sound from town.

Lol, you're not one to criticize others for not having a stereotypical town game.

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Boon's attitude or whatever feels NAI, but I'm leaning town on it at first.

However, he claimed, what was it? 1-shot BP? and immediately said that was a lie.

That doesn't feel right and it doesn't sound from town.

Lol, you're not one to criticize others for not having a stereotypical town game.

so you call that town?

From Boon?

Yep. This isn't my first game with him.

If I wanted to take on you and 2F's attitude, I could justify voteparking you on d1 in pretty much any game we're in together.

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Well... not town so much as null.

Still not lynching him today.

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Sheep fucked up by punching on a prod dodge as if it was a legitimate push.

I want them filling my gyros.

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Sheep fucked up by jumping on a prod dodge as if it was a legitimate push.

I want them filling my gyros.

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Lolololololol

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Like, town would have just seen my blatant prod dodge, called me an idiot

and shrugged it off

for what it is. Scum!Sheep can't afford to have ANY negativity on him to be believed, so he has to fight it anywhere it crops up.

How did I not just call you an idiot?
Because I said your post was full of nothing - which is *exactly* what you are now claiming town would do.
Then you called that me being defensive.

VOTE: Grey

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Fuck yo daycop.

You're caught scum.

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Sheep fucked up by jumping on a prod dodge as if it was a legitimate push.

I want them filling my gyros.

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Not voting anywhere else today outside of a literal confession.

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I'm not unvoting Sheep until it's dead. Period.

MoI and Boon both did shit that is mind-bendingly bad, and that kind of behavior comes from bad town more than scum an inordinate amount of time.

The reason I'm so dead set on voting Sheep is because they fucked up in a far more subtle manner, overestimating a prod dodge post that had no real heart in it as being a legitimate push and overreacting to it.

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Fuck yo daycop.

You're caught scum.

Yes, look how defensive I am!

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Sure Sheep.

I CLAIM SCUM ERR'BODY.

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Oh shut the fuck up ZZZX, I've posted several times, including quite fucking recently, why Sheep is Scum.

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Oh shut the fuck up ZZZX, I've posted several times, including quite fucking recently, why Sheep is Scum.

See this is the problems

You posted too fucking much I am not reading to go puzzle hunting through the bullshit

You're​ so full of shit.

IT'S ON THIS GODDAMNED PAGE.

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Let me help you both.
Summarize your case in 250 words or less

Let us be the judges

Stop spamming the thread for fking hell

His case on me is the definition of a case that would catch anyone, to whit - claiming only scum would react negatively/defensively/et al to a made up case on them.
He also was using that as a cover to, y'know, creating a made up case on me.

And you're STILL freaking out over A FUCKING PROD DODGE

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Edit: no grey it's not on this page. It's in the last 10 pages of random posts. And if I didn't have to get in a foot in there who knows who will wake up with 7 pages of back and further

729 idiot

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Good with lynching Sheep and ZZZX.

Back to prod dodging until town pulls their head out of their ass.

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Good with lynching Sheep and ZZZX.

Back to prod dodging until town pulls their head out of their ass.

No words. I am sad because you are probably town but your play is to vote anyone who ends up attacking you. Sigh lol

I don't recall you attacking me.

I recall you defending your buddy.

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Of course you are.

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Frankly, idgaf if I'm mislynched at this point because this fucking game is going nowhere.

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This is me not voting a nullread.

Willing to lunch either Sheep or ZZZX, somebody tap me if they become a thing.

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That's clearly untrue.

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Drama queen

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If I'm still alive tomorrow, I'm going to claim the results I got on sheep are guilty regardless of whether they actually are or not.

Just throwing that out there.

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Well, maybe I won't.

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But maybe I will.

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We should take the easy lynch.

Yeah... Not interested on d1.

The easy lynch is always on town and the impossible lynch is always on Scum d1.

Staying put.

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VOTE: MoI

Scum!Sheep doesn't seem to like the MoI wagon so I'm down.

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Don't care, I'm a spiteful person.

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*yawn*


This is me ignoring scum baiting.

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Do you lie over the sea?

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Man, 2F just scum reads people who go against him.

He also has rigid expectations of what actions can and cannot be town.

He's quite JFSFish.

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You're arguing that Boons is both town and wagoned by the town-that's too ridiculous.

Not even close to a tiny bit.

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Man, 2F just scum reads people who go against him.

He also has rigid expectations of what actions can and cannot be town.

He's quite JFSFish.

Didn't he get banned?

I said ish, as in like. Similar to. Reminiscent of.

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Lycan is on crack, 2F is nothing like RC.

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These people too herp.

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Not really.

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Except I'm scum this game. So I'll be lynched eventually. Most likely day 2

FTFY

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Go away troll

You didn't say the magic word.

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Go please troll!

The magic word is abracadabra.

Were you never a child?

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VOTE: momo

His frenemy.

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VOTE: momo

Hiya frenemy.

Edit.

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VOTE: momo

Hiya frenemy.

Edit.

Hi Grey who do you sr I can not get a read on you this game mostly cause your play is very....volatile

TBH, I have no clue.

I've been soft defending Boonie because dumbasses were scumreading him over stupid, superficial shit, but your reasoning is sheepable.

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Nope.


I'm just kinda detached from games lately due to stress overload and attempting to avoid getting banned by escalating conflicts.

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I understand the difficulty in trading me.

I'm just sloughing through what's left of my games and taking a break after I finish them.

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I understand the difficulty in reading* me.

I'm just sloughing through what's left of my games and taking a break after I finish them.

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So... That's lock scum then.

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But I have been playing my best, not made any major scum slips that have no excuse behind thm

Does that one count?

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Lol.

VOTE: TwoFace

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he was claiming mafia regardless of alignment he would get modkilled.

Only if he wound up getting lynched over it (game throwing)

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as in magna has basically hinted at it twice.

I'm confused...

So magna is scum or can be ignored. Good to figure that out early

VOTE: magna

I'm good with a magna wagon.

The timing of the bolded after I’ve called out that you weren’t looking for any partners is telling (

Lol you don't know what I'm doing. Way to unnecessary cast shade on me.

I'm ready to blow the game up and spear head 3 lynches.

I've got good leads now.

VOTE: magna

It was early day 1; we all played bad.

Playing bad is one thing. Magna intentionally deceived town and when under pressure essentially said oh I'm kidding i wasn't actually serious (despite defending his reasons earlier which implies it was serious)

Town "playing bad" doesn't try to scare people off their wagon by claiming a PR and when people still want to lynch you you retract and say "lol I was just kidding"

Both of these are scum motivation not town motivation

Funny that magna quotes the post right before this one in an attempt to discredit me yet ignored the follow up to it which makes his claim of them being "empty" invalid.

Note he has no interest in actually defending himself or even boon but would rather just discredit me despite admitting twice he knows I'm some sort of PR.

Like if he thought I was lying that's one thing but the fact he's mentioned it twice means he believes it to be true.

His attempts to discredit me is essentially a scum claim. He knows he can't lynch me so why not discredit me so hopefully nobody listens to me.

VOTE: magna

This is happening

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Magna for the love of God call bullshit.

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VOTE: momo

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Nah. Magna makes more sense.

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And yet...

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TBH I have no fucking idea what's going on in this game.

I just poke my head in now and then and pick someone to sheep.

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Who is Matt?

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Oh, mbg

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No wonder Twoface tried to man handle me when I placed a vote on Matt this makes sense now

No, it really doesn't make sense because that's just bad play but it is at least able to be parsed through that lens.

Fuck you

That's a strange post coming from somebody that likes to cry to the mod.

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I'm Bulletproof.

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Just kidding.

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Oh noez, I must be scumz.

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I wouldn't mind a reboot tbh.

I quit following this game with any interest long ago.

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I'm not reading the past 40+ pages of craptent.

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TB, fwiw I don't suspect your slot.

Yay?

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Actually, I'm pretty sure Matt was town.

So yay!

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UNVOTE:

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The fact there are so many players already being replaced is pretty much the only reason I haven't asked to be.

Yet.

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Hey Grey, you can't death tunnel me this game so don't even start.

Obvscum post.

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Let's do a RVS again, this time, who you think is scum based on the 45 pages.

I don't think that's how RVS works, and I'm not reading 45 pages, especially if they're filled with toxicity and NAI shit.

Can you believe the toxicity isn't even

mine

?

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@Eceryone else, why are we Voting MoI? What has he done which is scummy and deserves a D1 lynch?

They are just ignorently sticking to their intial opinion from page 5 or something.

I call it, "pulling a Two Face".

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Why some people are toxic?

Personality disorders.

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Nah.

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What does she stand to gain from that as scum?

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Why is Lycan town?

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Because the game being so chaotic, he was actually straightening things out and making them less chaotic. Might not agree with everything, but it was chaos earlier. That benefits scum more than town to keep things like that.

Not always true.

Scum also plays mediator for towncred.

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Her play from before TwoFace/myself started. Her putting votes on town reads of hers. Not explaining why, still. And sheeping every single wagon.

Why would scum do this tho!?

it wasn't her game plan or anything. She was slyly staying under the radar with it until I called her out and made my grand entrance into the game.

This isn't the newbie queue, and Elena is no fucking newbie.

Get that bullshit out of here.

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Because the game being so chaotic, he was actually straightening things out and making them less chaotic. Might not agree with everything, but it was chaos earlier. That benefits scum more than town to keep things like that.

Not always true.

Scum also plays mediator for towncred.

Sure they do, but lurking in the chaos is far more beneficial, or at least far more common.

Is Elena not new? I've never encountered them bofore!

It's not more beneficial when the source of the chaos is town, because that source will constantly be reigniting it for them to play peacekeeper.

Duh.

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Is Elena not new? I've never encountered them bofore!

No, and she's not a fucking idiot either (don't tell her I that, though)

Boon pushing her is rather hypocritical considering his own play.

[-Grey-]

Is Elena not new? I've never encountered them bofore!

No, and she's not a fucking idiot either (don't tell her I said that, though)

Boon pushing her is rather hypocritical considering his own play.

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I stated Elena as scum pretty early on in this game, and I believe Grey even vote there with me, and I'm stating basically the same reasons now as I did then.

Elena is my frenemy, I can't go a game without voting her.

Doesn't mean I'm going to blindly lynch her, though. I'm not sacrificing my wincon over a playful grudge.

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Then you play scum differently than I my friend!

You say that like there's more than one way to play!

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Fuck it, y'all lynch whoever.

I'm done defending people cuz idk anyone's alignment anyway.

Somebody wake me when the game goes somewhere.

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Fuck it, y'all lynch whoever.

I'm done defending people cuz idk anyone's alignment anyway.

Somebody wake me when the game goes somewhere.

So you are saying after days of nothing, now we just got multiple pages in a day, thoughts are coming up, the game is progressing, and somehow the game isn't going anywhere?

It's like an echo chamber in here.

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Alright then.

VOTE: Grey

Town would be at least trying to get this game moving, liking any perspectives coming into the game after all this chaos. Your post comes across is impatient that a mislynch hasn't happened and that we are taking the time to actually look into things and analyze.

Your vote is bullshit, because I've been apathetic for weeks and there's been nothing DONE YET to change that.

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Alright then.

VOTE: Grey

Town would be at least trying to get this game moving, liking any perspectives coming into the game after all this chaos. Your post comes across is impatient that a mislynch hasn't happened and that we are taking the time to actually look into things and analyze.

Your vote is bullshit, because I've been apathetic for weeks and there's been nothing DONE YET to change that.

you seemed pretty firey with your sheep read

Not really, it was half-hearted or I'd still be in a death tunnel.

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Fuck off.

Idc about your shit vote.

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I'll Iso Grey too. I like him though. Just in general.
I'll have to see what he has done for the game

Not a damn thing.

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I don't like he two votes on grey. I TR Grey and SR the people who voted him

Since this is one of those weird fucking games where I don't death tunnel you, I'll sheep you instead.

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I don't like he two votes on grey. I TR Grey and SR the people who voted him

Can you give a reason why you think Grey is scum?

Like, why would town all for reasons to scumread a person they're already voting?

That's scum fueling a mislynch. Town already knows why they think someone is Scum.

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I don't like he two votes on grey. I TR Grey and SR the people who voted him

Since this is one of those weird fucking games where I don't death tunnel you, I'll sheep you instead.

Lol. Hell has officially frozen over

Not really. I respect your reads when you're town. I'm just paranoid as shit of you.

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I would?

Don't you think you should wait until I'm dead before you channel my thoughts?

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I've only seen TB as town; I don't know if should be paranoid.

Not this game. He's locktown even to me, and I always mislynch him.

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I've only seen TB as town; I don't know if should be paranoid.

Not this game. He's locktown even to me, and I always mislynch him.

I just finished a scum game where we mislynched him Day 1. I'm not suspicious of TB, so I'll go along with that for now. When I was talking me about Momo being the most mislynchable player, I almost brought up TB, but hadn't seen enough really.

Why would you go along with your scumread's townread?

Especially when that scumread has a signature saying he'd claim an inno on his buddy d2 in a micro?

Your push is bullshit.

VOTE: Boon

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VOTE: Boon

I can sheep you here Grey.

I avoid scumreading boon for superficial behaviors because boon.

But when I catch him in an outright bad push... gotta go, gotta go!

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Good fucking luck trying to shade TB.

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Good fucking luck trying to shade TB.

^^

Yeah. @Boon don't make me fucking claim.

You're asking Scum.

That you're voting.

Not to make you claim.

I don't think you understand how scum works.

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What's your read on the 2F slot right now boons?

He's a claimed fucking mason.

Vote Boon or tell me why the fuck you won't.

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Oops. Double posted.

He's scum, Grey. :/ that's probably why your paranoia isn't there.

WRONG. I townread the slot prior to his entry for rock solid reasons.

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grey can you stop trying to be mr steal your reply

Vote Boon or tell me why the fuck you won't.

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Sure, put off bussing until the lynch is inevitable.

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Oops. Double posted.

He's scum, Grey. :/ that's probably why your paranoia isn't there.

WRONG. I townread the slot prior to his entry for rock solid reasons.

which were?

I don't make town cases.

I make scum cases.

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Sure, put off bussing until the lynch is inevitable.

I've given guilty's on both of my scum partners in a game before. Not afraid to bus.

Not talking to you. I'm talking to your buddy.

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:shrug: i have a good reason to townread tb too but shutting down my question to boons doesn't exactly further that scumcase

It was a stupid question with an obvious answer.

Aka, a scum softball.

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I love how people always try to sell scum as incompetent idiots.

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Spoiler:

Why would I vendetta vote you? Just cause I don't think you're a good player doesn't mean I'm going to vote you. Besides I'd rather lynch my scum read, which is what I'm trying to do.

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=69727 - scum win
viewtopic.php?f=51&t=69517 - successfully drew the NK with cop crumb as VT
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=69360 - on scum lynch d1 (replaced out due to mod error, showing unredacted role pm, which I pointed out to Aero to maintain game integrity)
viewtopic.php?f=53&t=69704 - strong-armed a scum lynch d1, on two scum lynches before I died n2
viewtopic.php?f=83&t=69960 - won as scum
viewtopic.php?f=83&t=69221 - replaced in, hammered scum based off two pages, and got NK'ed.
viewtopic.php?f=53&t=69502 - derpclaimed because I thought I was in a different game in the newbie queue (not my best moment for sure)
viewtopic.php?f=53&t=69859 - admittedly an off game
viewtopic.php?f=51&t=69831 - pulled out a scum win after my entire fucking team suicided
viewtopic.php?f=53&t=69833 - just as bad as everybody else
viewtopic.php?f=50&t=69882 - bulldozed a townie that pegged me early as scum into backing off for the entire game; won as scum
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=69849 - replaced out early, doesn't count for much other than to say my slot wasn't suspected until I was gone
viewtopic.php?f=51&t=70094 - I played Judas beautifully, I was pretty much lockdown. My only sin was attributing the only successful werewolf kill in the game to bring a vig shot (had no idea it was multiball)
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=69916 - mislynched in 3-way LyLo after being on and pushing to lynches on scum
viewtopic.php?f=56&t=69418 - not great play, I wasn't invested in the game due to the prevalence of mech talk
viewtopic.php?f=51&t=69822 - early replace out for reasons, mozamis griped at me in post-game for replacing out because I was the strongest member of the scum team.
viewtopic.php?f=50&t=69444 - successfully fished the n1 NK as a VT. Again.
viewtopic.php?f=50&t=69550 - won as scum

VOTE: Two Face

Tell me more about what a bad player I am.

Well that is L-1 let's see if Boon swoops in to hammer without a claim ...

Nah... you don't have to worry about him.

VOTE: Magna

Since you knew a hammer was imminent, you had your chance to claim.

Toodles.

Now vote your scum buddy, Grey.

K

VOTE: Boonskiiiiiiies

I'm done bussing Boon.

Time to bus Elena.

VOTE: Elena

Go ahead, try and lynch me. I'm a slippery fuck.

I'm always town read when I'm scum, and scum read when I'm town.

Inconsistent narrative is inconsistent.

First, he's all confident about being able to avoid the noose, then within minutes he's saying uncle.

VOTE: Boonskiies

He can't explain it cause he knows I'm not

VOTE: Two Face

Tag. You're it.

VOTE: MoI

Scum!Sheep doesn't seem to like the MoI wagon so I'm down.

VOTE: momo

His frenemy.

Lol.

VOTE: TwoFace

VOTE: momo

These are the majority of the votes that Grey's done. Notice how most of them are on myself, twoface, momo, and MoI. All 4 of the major wagons this game has had. Switches when it's convenient to.

Pick a wagon to push, Boon. You can only sell one mislynch at a time.

Or are you just reaching for anything that will get attention off your shit push where you wound up "going along with" the player you were voting?

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I've only seen TB as town; I don't know if should be paranoid.

Not this game. He's locktown even to me, and I always mislynch him.

I just finished a scum game where we mislynched him Day 1. I'm not suspicious of TB,

so I'll go along with that

for now. When I was talking me about Momo being the most mislynchable player, I almost brought up TB, but hadn't seen enough really.

Scum claim.

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i'm more interested in hammering magna than voting grey rn

lynch me over MoI. Gives me an out. I forgot that TwoFace wasn't the reason I hated this game.

AtE.

I defended Boon more than Perry fucking Mason because the case on him was superficial shit and he was calling me town all day for it.

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i'm more interested in hammering magna than voting grey rn

lynch me over MoI. Gives me an out. I forgot that TwoFace wasn't the reason I hated this game.

AtE.

I defended Boon more than Perry fucking Mason because the case on him was superficial shit and he was calling me town all day for it.

I've hammered my biggest town reads as town before.

I have no clue how that's relevant here.

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flip flop on reads is nothing for the Boon.

Also irrelevant.

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i'm more interested in hammering magna than voting grey rn

lynch me over MoI. Gives me an out. I forgot that TwoFace wasn't the reason I hated this game.

AtE.

I defended Boon more than Perry fucking Mason because the case on him was superficial shit and he was calling me town all day for it.

I've hammered my biggest town reads as town before.

I have no clue how that's relevant here.

exactly.

Thanks for confirming my point that you are simply trying to deflect with bullshit.

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flip flop on reads is nothing for the Boon.

Also irrelevant.

nah. you just brought it up. You said I was town reading you most of it. Now I scum read you. That's a flip flop. Need to spell it out for you more like in a children's book? Do I need to treat you that way?

Fuck you dude.

You were acting like 2F want the reason you hated early d1 when he was the one making your life hell and u was saving your neck from the fucking noose and now your Scum ass is trying to insinuate I was the antagonist.

Fuck off I'll EVER speak up when you're getting lynched again.

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flip flop on reads is nothing for the Boon.

Also irrelevant.

nah. you just brought it up. You said I was town reading you most of it. Now I scum read you. That's a flip flop. Need to spell it out for you more like in a children's book? Do I need to treat you that way?

Fuck you dude.

You were acting like 2F want the reason you hated early d1 when he was the one making your life hell and i was saving your neck from the fucking noose and now your Scum ass is trying to insinuate I was the antagonist.

Fuck if I'll EVER speak up when you're getting lynched again.

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i'm going to continue to be not-subtle and say that boons v grey feels ignited by how i've been engaging magna. would say magna/boons/aristophanes atm

I've been fighting the Magna wagon largely because it was 2F pushing it and he pushes on some stupid bullshit.

But I'll vote Magna tomorrow if you vote Boon today.

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Do any of you ever think you're on the opposite of the autism spectrum and you're social on levels other people simply aren't?

I'd say I'm antisocial to the n^th degree.

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And I like you as town, Boon!

Tell me, why does town "go along with" their scumread's townread?

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And I like you as town, Boon!

Tell me, why does town "go along with" their scumread's townread?

Because it coincides with their own! I have seen this and questioned it before, but voting with a scumread doesn't mean you don't scumread them still.

He wasn't voting with a scumread so idk what you're talking about.