Mini 1648: Mafia in the Noose Factory. (Game Over)

[ploben]

BBT: Why is a claim now a good thing?

Why didn't you address this question? And go ahead and answer it now, please.

[pisskop]

Ploben, Can I ask your total mafia experience?

[pisskop]

Never mind my horse shit post, BBT's on Zeb in 32.

Also, what is your reasoning for bringing up post 32?

[ploben]

Ploben, Can I ask your total mafia experience?

New to these forums, watched a handful of live mafia on Daily Mafia, and hoping to participate this week in one of those live games.

Never mind my horse shit post, BBT's on Zeb in 32.

Also, what is your reasoning for bringing up post 32?

In my post 52 I didn't think BBT casted a vote for Zeb yet he wanted everyone else to vote Zeb but the fact was that he had already voted for Zeb in his post 32. Just correcting my mistake.

[pisskop]

Boonskiies.

There is 3 of us though and I'm not giving you the last one.

I would like to get Zeb to L-1 and force a claim. Do you object to this? If so, why?

Sure. You start the vote.

I agree that claiming early is not a good thing.

What's happening here? What made you change your mind about voting?

[pisskop]

Boonskiies.

There is 3 of us though and I'm not giving you the last one.

I would like to get Zeb to L-1 and force a claim. Do you object to this? If so, why?

Sure. You start the vote.

I agree that claiming early is not a good thing.

What's happening here? What made you change your mind about *Wanting him to Claim? Did you vote him for a different reason?

[ploben]

I did vote Zeb for a different reason then to force a claim. I figured, based on his past mafia experience, there was no way he was claiming. I was genuinely interested to see what would people would say after Zeb went L-1. And I'll tell you what, the posts after my vote proved a good read.

I can go into details if you'd like.

[Slandaar]

Hey, guys, Tip seems like he knows what he's doing so maybe we should sheep him?

[pisskop]

Zeb and Boon came straight into this game making sure everyone knew they were salty because of a couple games ago. I don't care. In fact, it just looks to me like they are distancing themselves unnecessarily on reasons no one cares about. It stands out to me as suspicious.

tbh I like the idea of voting Random better.

unvote
vote: Random

[Boonskiies]

I did vote Zeb for a different reason then to force a claim. I figured, based on his past mafia experience, there was no way he was claiming. I was genuinely interested to see what would people would say after Zeb went L-1. And I'll tell you what, the posts after my vote proved a good read.

I can go into details if you'd like.

Go into detail.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Hammering this early is really a bad idea.

Yeah, great job dissuading people on the wagon.

That's not the issue, the issue is that you are promoting the hammer.

Aaaaand, you're still doing nothing to dissuade the wagon you seem to dislike so much.

This is standard play for bbt.

I think it's just BBT trying something new.

This made me laugh.

[Zebulin]

VOTE: ploben
joined zeb wagon last

This is.....a fact!

I thought we were going to out a PR early and I got all excited...seemed like a great idea at the time

/sarcasm

If you don't like that there was a attempt to force a claim early, why were you on the wagon that tried to force the claim? Why were you the

L-1

in that wagon? VOTE: Ploben

VOTE: ploben
joined zeb wagon last

This is.....a fact!

I thought we were going to out a PR early and I got all excited...seemed like a great idea at the time

/sarcasm

You have to use blue text if it's sarcasm.

Right, Zebulin?

Of course not. Blue is a terrible color.

Rereading.

17 - Zeb, this post implies your vote is random.

20 - However, in this post you're greatly over-explaining your vote. It doesn't seem so random any more. Why did you try to cover this vote under the disguise of RVS?

That was a RVS vote, and I don't know why you're asking a rhetorical question. (There's no way for me to answer that question without implying I was hiding a vote under RVS when I was not.) I was just having fun talking to Boonskiies and trying to get the salt out of my system before the game had really started. (Also, I didn't mean to say Boon is a VI. He's a really good player, just extremely confusing.)

I did vote Zeb for a different reason then to force a claim. I figured, based on his past mafia experience, there was no way he was claiming. I was genuinely interested to see what would people would say after Zeb went L-1. And I'll tell you what, the posts after my vote proved a good read.

I can go into details if you'd like.

Please do.

[ploben]

Zeb is indeed L-1.

Can someone state intent to hammer?

I don't agree with his early L-1 to force claim. Maybe he was collecting reactions. I'm leaning town.

I like hammers.

Boonskiies is bonkers but I kind of like that because of I have a good sense of humor. Not sure about his alignment, though, with the Zeb interaction.

I am bothered by BBT trying to get a claim out of Zeb - that in itself is odd (in that early claims are often anti-town and only aid scum in PR-hunting) but it's not as bothering as the fact that he outright admits it. Look at Zeb's reaction. You can't force someone to claim by saying you're pushing for a claim, not a lynch - it destroys the pressure of being at L-1. Is this just a poor excuse from BBT to try and avoid responsibility if Zeb flips town? There are plenty of pro-town reasons for not wanting to claim, as Zeb pointed out. I'm not saying that Zeb is necessarily town - this doesn't really affect my view of him - but BBT's stated intent to force a claim seems very fishy to me. Care to share your reasons, BBT? I'm hoping you have a better excuse than "I was PR-hunting", because that's blatant scumminess.
UNVOTE: Zebulin
VOTE: BlueBloodedToffee
To clarify, Zeb is far from off the hook in terms of suspicion for me, but I think the issues with BBT are what needs to be brought to peoples' attention.

PS: I don't think Zeb is likely to PR-claim all game (except if he actually thinks he's about to be lynched), due to the fact that his actions at the start of the game only make sense as VT or scum. Any roleclaim from him is going to be met with instant suspicion, at least by me and I hope by others.

PPS: I would just like to mention that House hasn't posted in the thread yet.

I think this is a good read on his play but I don't think he would be that obvious as scum. Like I said, I don't agree with his play but I don't think it makes him mafia.

[ploben]

Some of the other posts I just found personally amusing and really can't add anything insightful.

@Zebulin

Post 106

[ploben]

This is standard play for bbt.

I think it's just BBT trying something new.

This made me laugh.

Meta reads FTW!

Can I copy your signature BBT?

[Zebulin]

Some of the other posts I just found personally amusing and really can't add anything insightful.

@Zebulin

Post 106

Oh.

UNVOTE:

[Cheery Dog]

Vote Count 1.03

BlueBloodedToffee: (1) Ponystar17
MonkeyMan576: (2) Slandaar, tip
Boonskiies: (1) MonkeyMan576
randommidget: (1) pisskop
ploben: (1) randommidget
pisskop: (1) Always Mafia
Zebulin: (2) Luca Blight, BlueBloodedToffee

Not Voting: House, Boonskiies, ploben, Zebulin

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2015-03-08 19:53:20)

Mod Notes:
Prodding House.

[pisskop]

That looks terrible, and House needs to get into the game.

[Zebulin]

That looks terrible, and House needs to get into the game.

What looks terrible?

[ploben]

@Always Mafia

Is your vote for pisskop still RVS or you sticking to your meta read of him? What's your other reads at this point?

[House]

That looks terrible, and House needs to get into the game.

Nearly impossible to read votecounts do not capture my interest.

[House]

By the way, Boonskiies, I'm town this game.

Don't lynch me plzkthx.

[House]

That looks terrible, and House needs to get into the game.

Nearly impossible to read votecounts do not capture my interest.

My first post in this thread, with 5 pages of posts to work with, is nothing more than a complain about vote count formatting.

Discuss.

[Boonskiies]

By the way, Boonskiies, I'm town this game.

Don't lynch me plzkthx.

Alright. So House is confirmed town. Got it.

[Cheery Dog]

Prodding Always Mafia