Open 612 - Bad Poets Society - Game Over - Town Win

[goodmorning]

how so, gm?

Well, the big one I'm seeing is Trivium vs Brunneis. Do you not?

I'm subscribing to that, yes. Both of them are scummy, but their interactions suggest it'd be weird for both of them to be scum. Hence, the 'vs.' I've been comparing the two because Brunneis has a wagon and Trivium is also a recognized scumread by some people.

Are you townreading both of them, or are you having a problem with the game being set up in a vs format despite it being D1? Are you wary of the 'one flips town, we lynch the other' idea? Which is a stupid idea, by the way.

No, I'm scumreading Brunneis and townreading Trivium. I'm just wary of dichotomies, no matter how reasonable they seem to be.

I like Varsoon's vote then unvote, if Brunneis is town. It looked to be in response to Brunneis' posts, coupled with a sudden change in plans that I see more often from town than scum, who have at least a bit of a plan in mind.

idk, I don't think Town usually have plans to change iykwim.

[Errantparabola]

I'm not quite sure what you're asking.

Sorry if im mot being clear
Why and when did you switch from "i dont get the errant wagon
To "yeah id could lynch errant"

[Varsoon]

@Varsoon who are your top scum reads atm?

VOTE: Trivium
That one.
After that, I'm not a big fan of a lot of players, but I don't feel too passionately to push anywhere.
Maybe Vedith or Ika?


@Errant: I think it was a gut reaction to your vote on me for inconsistency coupled with how a few other players fled your wagon early. Actually, given how your wagon was handled and given your input on/around page 13, I like you for town a lot more in reconsideration.

[MaxwellPuckett]

how so, gm?

Well, the big one I'm seeing is Trivium vs Brunneis. Do you not?

I'm subscribing to that, yes. Both of them are scummy, but their interactions suggest it'd be weird for both of them to be scum. Hence, the 'vs.' I've been comparing the two because Brunneis has a wagon and Trivium is also a recognized scumread by some people.

Are you townreading both of them, or are you having a problem with the game being set up in a vs format despite it being D1? Are you wary of the 'one flips town, we lynch the other' idea? Which is a stupid idea, by the way.

No, I'm scumreading Brunneis and townreading Trivium. I'm just wary of dichotomies, no matter how reasonable they seem to be.

I like Varsoon's vote then unvote, if Brunneis is town. It looked to be in response to Brunneis' posts, coupled with a sudden change in plans that I see more often from town than scum, who have at least a bit of a plan in mind.

idk, I don't think Town usually have plans to change iykwim.

I see. I feel the opposite in terms of reading those two.

And as for the second point, I meant that scum are the ones who have plans, and Varsoon vote and invite didnt look planned.

[Errantparabola]

@Errant: I think it was a gut reaction to your vote on me for inconsistency coupled with how a few other players fled your wagon early. Actually, given how your wagon was handled and given your input on/around page 13, I like you for town a lot more in reconsideration.

This answer is very confusing to me. Could you please clarify a few things?

1. I voted you after you said that you'd be fine lynching me. What do you mean with your first sentence?
2. You seem to be saying that people fled my wagon early and that means you'd be fine lynching me. But then you say that "given how my wagon was handled" you have me as town. So I'm having trouble with that point too.

[Varsoon]

Oh man, my timeline on this game totes sucks.
I think I wasn't wow'd by your content after your wagon died down. I felt like you were coasting out. I don't think that's the case anymore.
I wasn't crazy about the names the joined your wagon and then left it. The way it was quickly built up and abandoned makes me feel like it was more likely scum-lead than not. However, I've been scum where an early bus is made then cast off in a similar fashion and the wagon feels 'arbitrary'. Like, I don't think you came out and did anything to dispel your wagon. I'm still scratching my head over why it was dismantled.

I think you're town, but there's a lot of red flags and weird shit surrounding how your wagon sprang up and went away without any real contest.
I might be remembering this wrong, but that's what it seemed like to me.
I should probably take game notes.

[The Fire Hermit]

I am incredibly sick, so I am going to let firebringer take over for the weekend

So much AtE, drama, and general scumminess from the Brunneis slot. Lynch that pls.

My Post

[The Fire Hermit]

As an alternative to Brunneis, Varsoon is also a good lynch for today. That is one of the things I would actually agree with Brunneis were I more confident she was town

[goodmorning]

^sure

[Varsoon]

Yeah me too, I'd also be cool with a Varsoon lynch if Brunneis doesn't go through.

...dicks.

[MaxwellPuckett]

Those of you advocating Varsoon lynch.. is it because of his stance on errant? What didn't you like about his explanation?

Like, what are the concrete reasons for scumreading Varsoon, again? I know early game it was his joke posts, but that can't carry over to where we are now.

[Ranger]

You were on the Errant wagon, but later you started talking about GM, Trivium, and us.

...And there's at least three scum, maybe four, in the game.

Errant has always been my priority, but I'd be a fool to focus exclusively on them.

If I had to choose between Brunneis and Trivium I would say that Trivium is more likely to be scum based on his awful defense. However, I think it's pretty scummy to make today's lynch a choice between these two players.

I am in agreement. Nothing's changed my opinion on Errant being the best lynch.

[Quaroath]

Trivium has been prodded.

[Trivium]

What does being wary of dichotomies mean to you, Goodmorning?

[The Fire Hermit]

You were on the Errant wagon, but later you started talking about GM, Trivium, and us.

...And there's at least three scum, maybe four, in the game.

Errant has always been my priority, but I'd be a fool to focus exclusively on them.

If I had to choose between Brunneis and Trivium I would say that Trivium is more likely to be scum based on his awful defense. However, I think it's pretty scummy to make today's lynch a choice between these two players.

I am in agreement. Nothing's changed my opinion on Errant being the best lynch.

Why are you thinking theres four?
Highly suspicious if you ask me....maybe I am off about Ranger.

[goodmorning]

Those of you advocating Varsoon lynch.. is it because of his stance on errant? What didn't you like about his explanation?

Like, what are the concrete reasons for scumreading Varsoon, again? I know early game it was his joke posts, but that can't carry over to where we are now.

Well, there's this thing I posted:

Why Varsoon? I've been sort of meh on most of his stuff, but 260 is just bad. ika is totally playing to his Scum meta, there's plenty of stuff in this game for one to sink one's fangs into, Ranger's post was just 'omg guys, look, wagons exist and i'm going to randomly call these people Scum for no apparent reason', and if there's nothing for him to 'sink his fangs into' then why is he suddenly fine with narrowing the lynch pool to three (based on what, exactly)?

--

What does being wary of dichotomies mean to you, Goodmorning?

It means that I am wary of them.

What was the point of that question?

@FH: 50% of all setups generated will include a Serial Killer.

[Quaroath]

Vote Count 1.5

Roses are red.
Violets are blue.
Zippers are tough
But I have faith in you.

Brunneis – (3) GrayFoxxxx, The Fire Hermit, Trivium
Trivium - (3) Brunneis, MaxwellPuckett, Varsoon

Goodmorning – (2) Ika Musume, Vedith
Errantparabola - (1) Ranger
Ika Musume - (1) Makara
Varsoon - (1) Errantparabola

Not Voting – (2) duppin, goodmorning,

Deadline is in (expired on 2015-10-25 23:59:59)

[goodmorning]

Vote: Brunneis

[Vedith]

GM, are you bussing your scum buddy, or trying to save your scum buddy by voting for the other wagon?
I think trying to save, personally.

[goodmorning]

That's not a very Town-Vedith post.

[Vedith]

Since when do I make town Vedith posts?

[goodmorning]

A fair point.

[Varsoon]

That's not a fair point at all.
If you're like, "Hey, bro, that sure was scummy!"
And he's all "Yup! Everything I say is scummy!"
You do not go "Oh, okay, free pass."

[Brunneis]

Vote: Brunneis

Once again, Goodmorning comes to Trivium's rescue.

[goodmorning]

That's not a fair point at all.
If you're like, "Hey, bro, that sure was scummy!"
And he's all "Yup! Everything I say is scummy!"
You do not go "Oh, okay, free pass."

It's Vedith tho