Open 417: Chosen Mafia - Heaven and Hell - Game Over!

[Thor665]

As long as you guys want to talk paranoia with me - also at least consider busted scum on Dat 2 that went for the quickhammer and the Hyperion lurk.
Seriously.

[Giitah]

I don't understand what you said, Thor. I don't think you especially scummy -- I'm just weighing the odds: in LyLo, between an obviously protown player and a horribly scummy player, I'd sooner choose to lynch the obviously protown player based on experience. There is no real case against you aside from that, in my eyes.

As for Shattered -- I'd be fairly happy lynching him and losing the game, too, because he'd deserve everyone's hate and fury -- but I think you're the more likely scum of the two of you.

What else can you say to dissuade my paranoia?

[Dazzy]

Vote count

(5 players alive = 3 to lynch)

(1)[L-2]Shattered Viewpoint – Thor665,
(1)[L-2]Thor665 - Shattered Viewpoint,

Not voting(3/5)(Hyperion, Giitah, Near,)

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Deadline: (expired on 2012-08-02 21:54:00)

Other Notes:

[Hyperion]

I don't understand what you said, Thor. I don't think you especially scummy -- I'm just weighing the odds: in LyLo, between an obviously protown player and a horribly scummy player, I'd sooner choose to lynch the obviously protown player based on experience. There is no real case against you aside from that, in my eyes.

As for Shattered --

I'd be fairly happy lynching him and losing the game

, too, because he'd deserve everyone's hate and fury -- but I think you're the more likely scum of the two of you.

What else can you say to dissuade my paranoia?

Really, yeah, willing to vote Giitah, but waiting to see if there is pile on on the other two w/ votes.

[Hyperion]

Actually, you know what VOTE: Giitah

I'l give it another 24 hours plus Hyperion posting and then we can discuss Shattered vs. Thor in greater detail. With the odds weighed between the two, I'd personally choose Thor of either of them, simply because 1) based on meta, Thor has shown me he can play like a scary town player while being a Mafia, and 2) faced in a decision between a pro-town or a lurker lynch, I'm pressed to choose the pro-town player.

^This is crap.
Giitah Shattered team.

[Hyperion]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Giitah
(Forgot to put it on its own line.)

[Thor665]

^^^
Scum not liking Thor lynch chances.
He calls Shattered scum but doesn't vote for him - derp de doo, not setting up a buss or anything for later, nothing to see here.

What else can you say to dissuade my paranoia?

I can't.

You admit I look town and that the basis of wanting to lynch me is because of that. ::shrug::
All I can possibly say is - sometimes a fruit tastes like an orange, smells like an orange, and looks like an orange because it is an orange.

[Near]

Near, you're reaching.
Any experienced Mafia player (so, that'd be any of us, including Shattered) would have known to make a plan for quicklynching in this scenario. It wouldn't be difficult at all.

I'l give it another 24 hours plus Hyperion posting and then we can discuss Shattered vs. Thor in greater detail. With the odds weighed between the two, I'd personally choose Thor of either of them, simply because 1) based on meta, Thor has shown me he can play like a scary town player while being a Mafia, and 2) faced in a decision between a pro-town or a lurker lynch, I'm pressed to choose the pro-town player.

I don't see how this could be easily done. I guess scums could set a time each day to check to see if there is a vote on any one of the non-scum team? But then if one of them forgets and the other makes the "vote" move, it would look suspicious

[Near]

Actually, you know what VOTE: Giitah

I'l give it another 24 hours plus Hyperion posting and then we can discuss Shattered vs. Thor in greater detail. With the odds weighed between the two, I'd personally choose Thor of either of them, simply because 1) based on meta, Thor has shown me he can play like a scary town player while being a Mafia, and 2) faced in a decision between a pro-town or a lurker lynch, I'm pressed to choose the pro-town player.

^This is crap.
Giitah Shattered team.

A possibility.

[Near]

Assuming that scums could carry out a mislynch, let's look at the following scum team possibilities:

Thor & Gitah = Possible
Thor & Hyperion = Possible
Thor & Shattered = Not possible, they would have mislynched Giitah
Gitah & Hyperion = Not possible, they would have mislynched Thor
Gitah & Shattered = Possible
Hyperion & Shattered = Possible

[Giitah]

Has shattered been on recently to mislynch me?

and Hyperion, you'll have to explain to me how what you quoted in #429 is scummy, otherwise it's straw. Also, I've already said I'd prefer Thor over Shattered, and the crossvote proves that either one of them is scum at this point, and therefore if I believe Thor to be scum, then I must believe Shattered is Town. To conclude, your logic on that is shit. So, basically, screw you, die scum. Hyperion moves up higher than both Thor and Shattered.

Near, does this sound like a fair conclusion to you? I'll crossvote him and we can see what happens.

[Thor665]

I would help lynch Hyperion.
I'm game for either he or Shattered.

[Giitah]

Acknowledged, but I won't clear you yet.

[Thor665]

Even if he flips scum you can't clear me...since, y'know, the more town I look the stronger your case is.
I just wanted you to know what I was going to do if he was put in hammer range (or, frankly, if even one person votes him).

[Near]

Has shattered been on recently to mislynch me?

and Hyperion, you'll have to explain to me how what you quoted in #429 is scummy, otherwise it's straw. Also, I've already said I'd prefer Thor over Shattered, and the crossvote proves that either one of them is scum at this point, and therefore if I believe Thor to be scum, then I must believe Shattered is Town. To conclude, your logic on that is shit. So, basically, screw you, die scum. Hyperion moves up higher than both Thor and Shattered.

Near, does this sound like a fair conclusion to you? I'll crossvote him and we can see what happens.

So you are saying Hyperion / Thor scum? I don't get your logic. Because Hyperion's logic is "shit"?

[Giitah]

No, dropping any logic on Thor right now, I think Hyperion is scummy for pushing a lynch on me on groundless bases.

[Thor665]

The important question is why, in LYLO, that Hyperion is so confident as to call a scum team of Giitah and Shattered, and *vote* for it...but not vote the player who is already being voted.

I have a theory...

[Near]

What's your theory?

[Thor665]

Shattered/Hyperion.

Derp.

[Giitah]

Near, yes/no to me crossvoting Hyperion?

[Hyperion]

Fuck this. RL shit, need this game to end.
VOTE: shattered
New job, not enough time to play.

[Thor665]

So, pretty much at this stage, Thor and Hyperion are the scum and Thor decided to be a royal ass to his partner.
Or...(and bear with me here)
Shattered is scum and needs death today, and Hyperion is his buddy.

I'll still happily flip to Hyperion if that is what we'd like, you guys can talk it out amongst yourselves as, short of self hammer, I know there's no risk of quickhammer here.

[Near]

Fuck this. RL shit, need this game to end.
VOTE: shattered
New job, not enough time to play.

Boo... Good job Thor

[Near]

Thor and Near scum team.

[Near]

Vote Shattered