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Newbie 1454: Mafia Plain and Simple - Game Over

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:46 am

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Welcome to...

Newbie 1454: Mafia Plain and Simple

 
No flavor here.  Just a bunch of new players to the game of Mafia, or at least to this site, getting together with a few experienced players.

 
Player List:
  1. Xayzeck
    **
  2. ObsessedWithCats
    Cadmean vixen

  3. NJAC
    Louis14

  4. pisskop
    *
  5. innocentvillager
    Sebster123

  6. T S O
    (SE) *
  7. BBmolla
    thenewearth
    (SE)
  8. geraintm
    (SE)
  9. RachMarie
    (IC)
     
    (An asterisk indicates a prod.)
Spoiler: Living
  1. pisskop
  2. T S O (SE)

 
Spoiler: Dead
  1. NJAC -
    Town Cop

  2. BBmolla
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    Vanilla Town

  3. ObsessedWithCats
    Vanilla Town

  4. innocentvillager
    Town Doc

  5. RachMarie (IC)
    Vanilla Town

  6. Xayzeck
    Vanilla Town

  7. geraintm (SE)
    Vanilla Town

 
Spoiler: Events
  • None yet

 
The Inexperience Challenged [IC] player is here to help you learn to play the game. Their play is governed by the wiki article Being a good IC.
The Semi-experienced [SE] players have a level of experience somewhere between a newbie and an IC.
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:47 am

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Game Rules

(stolen from various players who stole them from others and then modified prior to probably being stolen by more others)

 
General Rules
  1. The site-wide rules apply.
  2. Play to win.
  3. We're all here to have fun. Tempers may flare, but
    avoid personal attacks and keep it civil.

  4. Do not impersonate or pretend to be the moderator.
    This is my color
    and is reserved exclusively for my use.
  5. Do not edit or delete your posts in this thread. If there is a problem with a post, such as incorrect formatting, ask me to fix it for you.
  6. Do not quote communications outside the game thread, including role PMs, quicktopics, etc., in the game thread. This specifically includes PM timestamps. Paraphrasing is allowed. If in doubt, ask.
  7. Unless I have specifically told you it is allowed, do not talk about this game outside of this game thread until it is completed.
  8. Do not use cryptography, invisible text, tiny text, or the like.
  9. Do not use any form of provable randomness. Claiming you rolled dice and acting on that is fine. Using dice tags is not.
  10. Do not bring outside factors into this game. This includes, among other things, making bets, promises of real life rewards, etc.
  11. Claiming scum by yourself is fine. Claiming scum with others is not, regardless of the truth of this claim.
  12. Pretending to break a rule will be treated the same as breaking the rule.
  13. Breaking one of these rules may, at my discretion, result in a modkill. If you are modkilled, you will become a Neutral Survivor, and thus automatically lose. Modkilling may or may not end the game day.
  14. No set of rules can be all-encompassing. I reserve the right to take any action at any time, for any reason. However, I will try to be extremely reasonable. If you have any questions about the game, rules, or players, please ask me via PM.
 
Activity Rules
  1. If a player goes 72 real life hours without posting, they will be prodded, or at my discretion upon being asked by another player. Prods will be announced in thread.
  2. If a player does not respond to their prod within 36 real life hours, would be prodded thrice in the same game-day, or four times in total within the game, they may be force-replaced at my discretion.
  3. If you will be V/LA, please alert me in the thread or via PM.
  4. Each game day will have a deadline of fourteen real life days (two weeks).
  5. In the event deadline is reached before a lynch has occurred, there will be
    No Lynch
    .
  6. Each night will have a deadline of three real life days (72 hours).
  7. If a player has a night action, but does not submit a choice before deadline, they will perform no action.

  8. I may extend deadlines in the event replacements must be found, at my discretion. This will be announced in thread.
 
Voting Rules
  1. Votes must be at the beginning of a new line, using vote tags or
    bold
    (VOTE: Player name/
    VOTE: Player name
    ). If you do not wish to lynch, you may VOTE: No Lynch/
    VOTE: No Lynch
    . Abbreviations, missing punctuation, and misspellings will be accepted as long as it is obvious to me who is being voted for. If I perceive it as a vote, it counts as a vote.
  2. It is not necessary to explicitly unvote (UNVOTE: Player name/
    UNVOTE: Player name
    ) before voting someone else.
  3. Once a majority of votes is reached (# of players / 2 + 1, rounded down), that person is lynched. 
  4. All living players, including the lynchee, may continue to post until I lock the thread.
  5. If you are dead, that is it. Do not post.
 
Setup Rules
  • This game uses the Matrix6 semi-open setup. That means that the existing roles will be chosen using
    1
    row or column from the following table:
    • ABC
      1Town JailkeeperVanilla TownieMafia Goon
      2Mafia RoleblockerTown CopTown Doctor
      3Town 1-shot
      Bulletproof
      Mafia GoonTown Tracker
    All empty spaces will be filled with Vanilla Townies and Mafia Goons until there are 7 Town-aligned players and 2 Mafia-aligned players.
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:49 am

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Sample Role PMs

 
 
Spoiler: Mafia Goon Role PM
Mafia Goon Role PM wrote:Welcome to Newbie 1454,
[Player name]
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You are a
Mafia Goon
. Your partner is
[Player name]
, who is a
Mafia {Goon, Roleblocker}
.
 
During the night phase, you may communicate using this quicktopic. Each night your team may select one player to make the Mafia's kill.
 
You win when your faction gains half or more of the town's population, or when nothing can prevent the same.
 
The game thread is here. Good luck.

Spoiler: Mafia Roleblocker Role PM
Mafia Roleblocker Role PM wrote:Welcome to Newbie 1454,
[Player name]
!
 
You are a
Mafia Roleblocker
. Your partner is
[Player name]
, who is a
Mafia Goon
.
 
During the night phase, you may communicate using this quicktopic. Each night your team may select one player to make the Mafia's kill. Each night, you may also target one player to prevent them from performing their action. You can kill and roleblock someone on the same night.
 
You win when your faction gains half or more of the town's population, or when nothing can prevent the same.
 
The game thread is here. Good luck.

Spoiler: Cop Role PM
Cop Role PM wrote:Welcome to Newbie 1454,
[Player name]
!
 
You are a
[color= green]Cop[/color]
.
 
Each night, you may target one player to learn whether they are a member of the Town or the Mafia. You will receive results in the format of
"
[Player name]
is Town/Mafia"
or
"No result"
.
 
You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated and at least one pro-Town player remains alive.
 
The game thread is here. Good luck.

Spoiler: Doctor Role PM
Doctor Role PM wrote:Welcome to Newbie 1454,
[Player name]
!
 
You are a
[color= green]Doctor[/color]
.
 
Each night you may target one player to protect them from being killed that night. You will not be told whether your protection was successful.
 
You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated and at least one pro-Town player remains alive.
 
The game thread is here. Good luck.

Spoiler: Jailkeeper Role PM
Jailkeeper Role PM wrote:Welcome to Newbie 1454,
[Player name]
!
 
You are a
[color= green]Jailkeeper[/color]
.
 
Each night you may target one player to both prevent them from taking an action (if they have one) and protect them from being killed that night.
 
You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated and at least one pro-Town player remains alive.
 
The game thread is here. Good luck.

Spoiler: Tracker Role PM
Tracker Role PM wrote:Welcome to Newbie 1454,
[Player name]
!
 
You are a
[color= green]Tracker[/color]
.
 
Each night, you may target one player to learn what player they targeted with their action, if any. You will receive results in the format of
"
[Player name]
visited
[Player name]
"
or
"No result"
.
 
You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated and at least one pro-Town player remains alive.
 
The game thread is here. Good luck.

Spoiler: Bulletproof Role PM
Bulletproof Role PM wrote:Welcome to Newbie 1454,
[Player name]
!
 
You are a
1-Shot Bulletproof Townie
.
 
You will survive the first kill attempt made on you during the game. This ability does not apply to lynches.
 
You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated and at least one pro-Town player remains alive.
 
The game thread is here. Good luck.

Spoiler: Vanilla Townie Role PM
Vanilla Townie Role PM wrote:Welcome to Newbie 1454,
[Player name]
!
 
You are a
Vanilla Townie
.
 
You have no special abilities.
 
You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated and at least one pro-Town player remains alive.
 
The game thread is here. Good luck.
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Tue Nov 19, 2013 8:56 am

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7/9 players have confirmed.
The game has begun.

D1 deadline is 0700 EST on Dec 11th.
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Wed Nov 20, 2013 1:37 am

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Do we live in a city, a pleasant suburb, or a village; what?
Village of course.


Also, yo.
beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Wed Nov 20, 2013 2:38 am

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So what, do we just randomly vote people now? x]
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Wed Nov 20, 2013 3:01 am

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You can. Ima wait, stroll around our village and its thatched roofing.

1) Timezone relative to game (est, Britain +5, California -3)?
I am est

2) Total experience in deception games?
A few games of werewolf, bs, strategy games like Risk
beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Wed Nov 20, 2013 3:24 am

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Here.
Very quickly as on phone.
In uk, normally going to post longer in the evenings uk time. Maybe more at weekends. Wednesday worst day for me as I play magic that night.
I have had a ling long break from playing, replaced into one newbie game since coning back.

Oh, and 4...
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:48 am

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Hiya! I've never played a deception game before, but I hope I can do well. UK time also, and I think I'll admire the houses in the village
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:48 am

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Hello Everyone. I am your friendly neighborhood IC. What that means is in addition to my game role which is randomly generated, I am here to help you with game mechanics and other questions of how to play the game. Feel free to ask me questions. You can get a good idea of the role of IC from here Being a good IC. Some things I may have to give a partial answer for because of the game being ongoing. If that happens, I will let you know why, and let you know that I will explain more fully after the game is over.

A few basics:

RVS (Random Voting Stage) and RQS (Random Questioning Stage)
are often used to get the game rolling. You will find that some people prefer one or the other, but both seem to get discussion going which is very important to the game. Especially for townies a lot of solid discussion helps make it easier to catch scum and figure out who the other townies are.

Lurking and Lying
. Lurking is not by itself a scum tell, however it is detrimental to town and it is much better to be active and asking questions, making reads, pushing on people, than to sit back in the sidelines. It is more fun too. Lying, especially in newbie games with the open 2 of 4 setup is very antitown. It can end up getting you lynched if you are a PR, or end up resulting in a CC if you are fake claiming. Just best to play your role as best as you can and not lie.

If you run someone up to L-1
(meaning only needing one more to lynch), then the next person to vote should state INTENT TO HAMMER and give the person being lynched a chance to respond. This way if it turns out to be a mislynch, the town at least has the information it needs from the player.

NL or No Lynch
is only an optimal play on certain circumstances in a game this size. Especially on D 1 it is better to have a mislynch than a NL. You still get information that is valuable in helping determine the scum.



VOTE: tne

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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Wed Nov 20, 2013 12:40 pm

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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Wed Nov 20, 2013 1:31 pm

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After what rach has said, I think I class as se. But I can be a terrible player, I am not great at hunting scum, especially the first day. I get better with more info though, honest.
But I will do my best to get everyone involved and point out when you are lurking. I am really not into the all the lingo and abbreviations that seem to be common around here now though.
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:46 am

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Vote Count 1.01With 9 alive it's 5 votes to lynch.

Voting for:


*Cadmean vixen -
*geraintm -
*Louis14 - 
*pisskop -  
*RachMarie -  
*Sebster123 -  
*T S O - 
*thenewearth - RachMarie [1] 
*Xayzeck -

Not voting: Cadmean vixen, geraintm, Louis14, pisskop, Sebster123, T S O, thenewearth, Xayzeck [8]


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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Thu Nov 21, 2013 11:42 am

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VOTE: Rach

OMGUS!!!
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:23 pm

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Vote:Rach
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Thu Nov 21, 2013 7:49 pm

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VOTE: TNE

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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:01 pm

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VOTE: TNE Seb, that was interesting...
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Fri Nov 22, 2013 1:09 am

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Vote: the new esrth.
I said 4 in my post, so I'll randomly vote for the 4th person to post after me.

Wonder if I'll get in trouble for that.
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Fri Nov 22, 2013 1:28 am

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Yes geraintm

You get in trouble for failing to vote

And for trying to put someone in L-1

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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Fri Nov 22, 2013 1:42 am

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Vote attempts in posts 14 & 17 aren't using the Vote button or in bold and therefore aren't being counted.

Will give Cadmean vixen a few more hours before seeking replacement. They haven't been on site in almost a week.
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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Fri Nov 22, 2013 4:18 am

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^^^

Code: Select all

[vote]blshblahblah[/vote]

Any reason to wagon these two?
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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Fri Nov 22, 2013 5:17 am

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Am on phone, I never get this bold thing right or remember to do it.
Didnt realise it was only 1 from lynch, I thought there had inly been 2 votes. But had to do thw vote, if yoy look at every other game I've played ive always done my random vote the same. You wouldn't want me to be inconsistent, right?
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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Fri Nov 22, 2013 6:35 am

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So my question to everyone who just voted for tne is:


RVS vote or not? If an RVS vote why vote for someone who was already voted?

If not an RVS vote, what is your case on tne for being scum?
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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Fri Nov 22, 2013 8:21 am

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VOTE: geraintm
beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Fri Nov 22, 2013 8:42 am

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Hey guys, what up I got a big cock.

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