Mini 1698: MDCXCVIII [C'est fini!]

[TheDominator37]

Boom seems town. In that 3 page speal with pecker he seemed frustrated with bad play. Which is a town thing to do. You could almost say the opposite about wood so he's moved down a bit on my lisr

[WoodyWoodpecker]

People like you do this on purpose to get a reaction like this, or else you wouldn't keep egging it on.

done what exactly? try to lynch my scum reads?

Meh, there it is again. You know exactly what the fuck you are doing.

yes, I am trying to lynch my scum reads.

but let's move away from this back and forth cause it is only going to carry on for pages and pages and nobody wants to see that. You think I am scum and I think you are scum. DONE...

can you please give me your opinion of NE?

Also what do you think about NE saying that he was looking for reasons to justify his vote instead of already having reasons for why he was voting?

[Boonskiies]

@Shazam - I don't see it as alignment indicative. I've done stuff like that as town. You get him to L-1, I'll hammer him. "Did someone say L-1?" is kind of my catchphrase around here. Day 1, if the game is past 25 pages, I'll hammer basically anyone that isn't in my lean town/town reads. Even then, sometimes I'll second guess my reads, and hammer. I like analyzing flips.

[WoodyWoodpecker]

you will also hammer top town reads as said previously by you. so basically you will hammer anyone

[Boonskiies]

NE has definitely moved down a bit on my list. I did like Implosion's case. And I always say scum usually has to fabricate reasons for voting someone more than town.

Also, what's wrong with chainsaw defence? I scum read people, I think that they'll target town? It's Day 1, what do you want from me?

[Boonskiies]

@Shazam - I don't see it as alignment indicative. I've done stuff like that as town. You get him to L-1, I'll hammer him. "Did someone say L-1?" is kind of my catchphrase around here. Day 1, if the game is past 25 pages, I'll hammer basically anyone that isn't in my lean town/town reads.

Even then, sometimes I'll second guess my reads, and hammer.

I like analyzing flips.

Can you please read...? It's not that hard. I stated that.

[Boonskiies]

Usually it's only with people who are hard to read. I did it to Thor once, which if you know him, is annoying to read. I also hardcore chainsaw defenced him that game...I just don't like Day 1's.

[Boonskiies]

you will also hammer top town reads as said previously by you. so basically you will hammer anyone

Some people think a mystical force forces me to do it. Others think I have an addiction problem to it. Many think I have a coded program telling me when someone gets to L-1 in a game.

[WoodyWoodpecker]

NE has definitely moved down a bit on my list. I did like Implosion's case. And I always say scum usually has to fabricate reasons for voting someone more than town.

Also, what's wrong with chainsaw defence? I scum read people, I think that they'll target town? It's Day 1, what do you want from me?

what's wrong with it is you are immediately discrediting people all because they share a different opinion than you which isn't town motivated.

it basically gives you an excuse to ignore a potentially good case made by somebody based solely on the fact that you are town reading the person the case is on. That's bad play

[Shazam]

@Shazam - I don't see it as alignment indicative. I've done stuff like that as town. You get him to L-1, I'll hammer him. "Did someone say L-1?" is kind of my catchphrase around here. Day 1, if the game is past 25 pages, I'll hammer basically anyone that isn't in my lean town/town reads. Even then, sometimes I'll second guess my reads, and hammer. I like analyzing flips.

Can you please explain the town motivation in lying about what your post originally meant just because it's wrong? Why wouldn't a townie just say "oh, yeah, that post was wrong"? I left him any recourse besides the truth and he took it, because I told him even the truth would make him look somewhat scummy. You can go check my post after his "scumreading me" post. I said "if (truth), this is your first scummy post. if (lie), explain what you meant". He took lie, by your own admission. Again, why would a townie do this?

@ Woodpecker
Still waiting for your thoughts on this specific part of Bulb's play.

[Boonskiies]

Except I don't ignore it? I guarantee after flips I will go back and check them out depending on what is needed...haha.

[Boonskiies]

I don't get the scum motivation in lying there really either, though.

[Shazam]

I don't get the scum motivation in lying there really either, though.

Because, again, I had just told him that he would look scummy if he admitted to the truth of his post. I didn't tell him he would look even scummier if he lied about it. Town shouldn't care enough about looking scummy to lie about something like that.

[WoodyWoodpecker]

@ Woodpecker
Still waiting for your thoughts on this specific part of Bulb's play.

i'm confused. can you point me to the actual lie? reading your description doesn't really process well for some reason

[Boonskiies]

@ Woodpecker
Still waiting for your thoughts on this specific part of Bulb's play.

i'm confused. can you point me to the actual lie? reading your description doesn't really process well for some reason

This. I don't think I'm looking at what you want me to.

[Shazam]

You forgot that you scumread me.

If this is addressed to me:
Would you please stop lying and thinking you'll get away with it just because you don't provide backup for anything? This is actually the only post of yours I've found particularly scummy.

If not:
Who are you talking to?

I was talking to gray

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So we all think each other is scum? What's your point? And what do you mean I'm not helping you with it?

Bulb claimed (because I gave him the opportunity) that 536 was a response to 508. Gray, Boon, and I have all agreed that this makes no sense, and Bulb has not been able to explain this. 536 is clearly a response to 535 since the context was me saying people shouldn't scumread the players who haven't been posting much content (i.e. Bulbazoor). He was caught out saying something false in 536 and took an explicit opportunity to lie about his intent by saying it was directed at the only person who WAS scumreading him, Grayfoxxx. So please do one of the following: 1) Explain how 536 is a response to 508. 2) Explain how 541 and following could possibly come from town if 536 is a response to 535. 3) Vote Bulbazoor. Until someone does 1) or 2) to my satisfaction, I will be doing 3).

[WoodyWoodpecker]

ok I do agree that was weird. bulb could not have been talking about gray

[WoodyWoodpecker]

If I could somehow convince myself that shazam was town (which I am not able to do right now) than the points that bulb made earlier about shazam aren't that good and than that leaves me back to his original push on mario for "meta" but I don't feel like he has a good grasp of mario's meta. I don't think boon did either but at least boon was better able to articulate what about his meta, bulba didn't do as good imo

[Boonskiies]

I don't really feel he was talking to you about it either, though...it's weird. I don't understand why he would say he was talking to gray, though. It doesn't make sense.

[Shazam]

I don't really feel he was talking to you about it either, though...it's weird. I don't understand why he would say he was talking to gray, though. It doesn't make sense.

So now you have used the words "confused", "sass head" and "weird" to describe something which you yourself admit is a blatant lie to cover for something that looked scummy. There another word you haven't used....

If I could somehow convince myself that shazam was town (which I am not able to do right now) than the points that bulb made earlier about shazam aren't that good and than that leaves me back to his original push on mario for "meta" but I don't feel like he has a good grasp of mario's meta. I don't think boon did either but at least boon was better able to articulate what about his meta, bulba didn't do as good imo

I can't do much about this. Both of you need to get over it and admit that what Bulb did is not just bad, confused, or weird. It's indicative of scum in such a glaring way that if you don't vote him for this, you are willing to let him get away with anything. In which case we lose if he is scum.

[WoodyWoodpecker]

vote: bulb

happy? I don't really give a fuck at this point. I will just assume I was wrong about you, you are actually playing how I play so I will do what I wish people would do for me. I will let you have your lynch.

[Bulbazoor]

I admit. It was to shaz because I thought he scumread me. But I still wanted to get some input and reaction from gray.

[GrayFoxxxx]

I admit. It was to shaz because I thought he scumread me. But I still wanted to get some input and reaction from gray.

[Sméagol]

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Bulbazoor [

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GrayFoxxxx

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Shazam

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WoodyWoodpecker

FA_Q2 [

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pisskop

implosion [

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dragonspawn

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FA_Q2

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TheDominator37

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Bulbazoor

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Kublai Khan

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implosion

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StubbsKVM

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Boonskiies

Abstaining [1]

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Necessary Evil

There are 13 active players.
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[01] Bulbazoor
[02] dragonspawn
[03] GrayFoxxxx
[04] FA_Q2
[05] implosion
[06] Boonskiies
[07] spicer1209 [582]

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[08] Shazam
[09] pisskop
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[11] TheDominator37 [259]

< MarioManiac4

[12] Kublai Khan
[13] WoodyWoodpecker

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Deadline is

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(expired on 2015-07-29 00:00:00)

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I think that is correct, but maybe some votes got lost between that "discussion". Seriously people, I think at least 75 % of the last 6 pages, I could have done without.
If I were a player, I wouldn't mind the swearing and insulting, I'm not that easily offended, but I'm the mod, and if

you

can't handle it, maybe you should stop using it.

1] Don't attack other players directly. Be civil, you can makes cases without insults.
2] Don't get too emotional.
3] You'll have to learn to agree to disagree.
4] Failing that even, simply ignore stuff. This game is not worth raising your blood pressure.. I don't want anyone dying from a heart attack on my watch.

There were some PMs sent back & forth between people, you know who you are, I think it's best if you take a break and get a good night's rest, and let other players post some content while the smoke clears.

If I see this escalate any further, I'll have to take a good look at what mod powers I actually have, and get creative in how I deal with these kind of situations.

[GrayFoxxxx]

Im still ok with a bulb lynch, he's acting anti town to say the least, and I think his lynch would give alot of info.