Micro 508: MafiaMafiaNotMafia (Bins' Soup Sucks)

[Edosurist]

The fact that you were watching that whole time and only posted once is unsettling, though.

[Edosurist]

I'm like 80% certain that Lucky is scum.
That just now and his flip-flopping today has just been erratic.

[Lucky2u]

The fact that you were watching that whole time and only posted once is unsettling, though.

Huh?

[Bins]

That's the first I'm hearing about this.

I didn't like your indecisiveness all day on your own group and it felt really non commital when you hammered. You also threw down doubt on my group in your hammer vote. Seemed scummy to do.

It was 20h until DL and I had townreads on both of them.

[Edosurist]

The fact that you were watching that whole time and only posted once is unsettling, though.

Huh?

Check the timestamps on when I finally unvoted Unicat and when you posted "it's ok." You said you were phone posting, but you must've refreshed right at that moment. I'm saying the timing is a bit coincidental.

[Lucky2u]

Yea, work at this hour is me sitting around refreshing.

[Edosurist]

Ya, I know it's weaksauce. I'm still 80% certain you're scum, though. Based on probability and what Bins said.

[Lucky2u]

Why didn't you consider that I maybe watching the thread because I have a vote on the field and are watching for the quick hammer.

[Edosurist]

Because I don't think it's too relevant.

Why would you have a vote on the field if you aren't comfortable enough to take your eyes off of it?

And are you accusing me of being scum here?

[Lucky2u]

It's LyLo, I'm paranoid. That should answer both questions.

[Lucky2u]

I see it as chamber-Bins team or Lucky-Unicat.

tbh I'm talking a lot about WIFOM but every kill would have had a lot of WIFOM

so Bella talking about why ____ (me and them) didn't die is ikkcoocodosllcldls
but I can understand the immediate reaction to the kill


yeah I think I'm most comfortable with lynching lucky, then chamber, then bellaplot, then Edos
more posting from chamber required

I just had a thought about bins reads. Here she states that she suspects chamber more than rainbow. she indicated previously that she believed that she thought her group was all town when she hammered and has done little to prove that thought has changed. by her preferred reads, if Bins is town, that leaves her with the following two combinations ChamberxLucky and ChamberxEdo. I should not be first on her preferred lynch order. if she thinks the scum team is chamber and me, which her above post suggests since we are one two on the list, then chamber is the safer lynch (something she indicated she wants) since he doesn't have an alive partner. even if she strongly reads edos town, it's still a risk lynch me first since she could be wrong and lose the game if edos is just playing a good scum game. However if Bins is scum, and chamber is her partner, this behavior would make sense for a scum team going for the win today rather than risk tomorrow.

[Rainbow Unicat]

i was expecting either parama or us to be nightkilled. I was hoping it would be us. I could have posted the day before yesterday but it would have just been keyboard mashing about why couldn't it have been us. As such, I'm not too worried about "why parama and not bins" because I felt like parama, if town, which I believed they were, would be our best shot of solving the game due to how much work they'd put into it and their knowledge of the setup and previous games. As for why us, I felt (and still feel despite how terrible my reads were yesterday) that I have a decent shot of it myself because the possible pairings are few. If Bins had been nightkilled I probably would have grown very paranoid of parama.

That said, it's either Bins or it's chamber (or both I guess) and I'm leaning scum on chamber but that's before going through the numbers, and I'm thinking it's probably more likely to be lucky than edosurist but if the numbers contradict this then i'll trust the numbers.

possibilities are chamber-bins, chamber-lucky, chamber-edosurist, bins-lucky. i think that of these, chamber-lucky is less likely because of today's voting patterns.

I'm still on v/la and probably will be for another week but I may be getting back into a "need to use mafia as a distraction" state instead of a "I don't want to be distracted" state so maybe you'll hear more from me.

--p

[Bins]

I see it as chamber-Bins team or Lucky-Unicat.

tbh I'm talking a lot about WIFOM but every kill would have had a lot of WIFOM

so Bella talking about why ____ (me and them) didn't die is ikkcoocodosllcldls
but I can understand the immediate reaction to the kill


yeah I think I'm most comfortable with lynching lucky, then chamber, then bellaplot, then Edos
more posting from chamber required

I just had a thought about bins reads. Here she states that she suspects chamber more than rainbow. she indicated previously that she believed that she thought her group was all town when she hammered and has done little to prove that thought has changed. by her preferred reads, if Bins is town, that leaves her with the following two combinations ChamberxLucky and ChamberxEdo. I should not be first on her preferred lynch order. if she thinks the scum team is chamber and me, which her above post suggests since we are one two on the list, then chamber is the safer lynch (something she indicated she wants) since he doesn't have an alive partner. even if she strongly reads edos town, it's still a risk lynch me first since she could be wrong and lose the game if edos is just playing a good scum game. However if Bins is scum, and chamber is her partner, this behavior would make sense for a scum team going for the win today rather than risk tomorrow.

It's because I think your partner is likely Bella, Lucky. And my scumread on you is growing enough that it's making me paranoid of Bella.

And everyone jumping on Chamber is making me worried too, because he hasn't even done anything that scummy, it feels as if these reads are just coming out of thin air.

[Bins]

If Chamber is getting jumped on mainly because of the NK that's freaking me out more.

[Bins]

BellaPlot/Lucky makes a lot of sense, especially with BP's instistence D1 that n_m needed to die.

[Bins]

Lucky's first three posts of the day still scream to me "LALALAALALALALAALALALAAAA DONT TAKE THE WIFOM... totally didn't set it up for Chamber too look scummy... oh... they took the WIFOM, that was easy... okay sweet! let's jump on the WIFOM."

[Edosurist]

From Bins' POV,
Assuming that chamber and Lucky aren't scumbuddies, scum has to either be Unicat or me.

[Edosurist]

Under the same assumption from Unicat's POV,
Scum has to either be chamber or Bins

[Edosurist]

From chamber's POV, scum is Lucky or Unicat

[Bins]

I actually have a decent townread on you, actually. And Cat's actions D1 re:N_M are freaking me out. Because they pretty much tunnelled their vision on N_M so they didn't need to comment as much on Lucky.

[Edosurist]

^Can you quote this for me?

[Rainbow Unicat]

yeah, I'm terrible at mafia. especially day 1. especially micros. but probably just in general.

I was paranoid of not mafia and I was being obtuse. i should have figured out that he was scared of my scumgame not my towngame. i didn't. Bella and I did manage to figure it out for Bins that she was more likely scared of our scumgames than our towngames and that was part of our townread on her.

Lucky's still voting chamber, right? So this is us not being scum together with edos or bins
-p

[Edosurist]

Not scum with Unicat

[Edosurist]

We know you're not scum with Bins already. Same Group.

[Rainbow Unicat]

yay

pedit: oh, right.

-p