Mini 1755: Game Over

[RadiantCowbells]

For example, if Massive was legitimately pissed off at PK for not giving reasons he would have just hammered.

No that is what a childish Massive would do.

I was legitimately pissed of at many things, I didn't vote anyone because of it.
You appear to be projecting how you play mafia onto other people.

Massive clearly indicated that he was pissed off and/or childish in thread.
He then tried to divert responsibility for his hammer by saying that he was hammering because PK wasn't explaining his reads, when he knew full well that PK wasn't going to.
That makes the entire thing clearly posturing. And posturing isn't necessarily scummy but with how flat and forced it was him being scum is the easy conclusion to draw.

[AxleGreaser]

people who overly justify their reads are usually scum.

I flipped town.

but yeah i use the over justifcation of reads as scum indicative thing but it is ridiculously context dependent.

[AxleGreaser]

Massive clearly indicated that he was pissed off and/or childish in thread.

Yeah he was pissed off, but as town would he act on it?

[RadiantCowbells]

people who overly justify their reads are usually scum.

I flipped town.

but yeah i use the over justifcation of reads as scum indicative thing but it is ridiculously context dependent.

No I mean like I explained that wrong.
you said you townread Massive because 'everything that he was thinking was in thread'.

This is, flat out, a scumtell.
If there's not clearly some thought process with their reads that extends beyond the game and applies to every single one of their posts, that makes them scum.
You townread Massive for not having anything beyond his posts because he posted everything. That's shallow and scummy. It's not something you should townread.

Yeah he was pissed off, but as town would he act on it?

He DID act on it though.
If he ended up NOT hammering you might have a case here.

[Dierfire]

In fact this game should prove to you what I've considered gospel for a long time; people who overly justify their reads are usually scum.

FMPOV, you are literally looking for a scumtell and using it as a towntell.

This explains why Radiant always wants to lynch me.

EDIT: Or maybe not?

[AxleGreaser]

God no

I think I am going to honor this request, and stop talking theory.

it was fun playing with you Droog (I hope all is well)
and would enjoy doing so again

Whenever i get around to playing mafia again. It may be a while before I have a large enough slab of time and desire.

[droog]

Thanks axle
You too
Would love to play you again

Things are fixed here and staying fixed

[AxleGreaser]

He DID act on it though.

He did what he originally said he was going to, when he said he would.
he did not act on being pissed off.


Pedit: good news Glad to hear it.


/out

[RadiantCowbells]

He DID act on it though.

He did what he originally said he was going to, when he said he would.
he did not act on being pissed off.


Pedit: good news Glad to hear it.


/out

The entire thing was an (acted) fit of rage at PK though.
So the hammer WAS an act on being pissed off (claimed to be).
Whatevs.

[Raskolnikov]

GJ Massive you hardcore carried this game. I feel kind of bad for winning this but you really deserve it! That performer hammer was sick.

[massive]

Thanks, Rask, sorry you got the bus so early in the game. Look forward to playing with you in the future!

[Raskolnikov]

I was gonna die anyway bro, it was definitely the right move.

Also I thought it was funny how the UTL/heat townread influenced some people because when I gave that out it was early (first scumgame) and I actually forgot utl was on my team

[RadiantCowbells]

Well obv kill Boon

RC's play is kinda dumb, I think. Why fake the cop claim and then fake the FN claim when you have a legitimate shot at finding the last scum? Keeping Boon alive for one more day just makes him the target the next night when he has no ability to affect the nightkill.

Pains me to leave Axle alive another night but may need him ultimately tomorrow just to survive, since pisskop's raging hard-on to lynch me has magically returned. Better start prepping my attack strategy.

I didn't claim FN.
Boonskiies decided to be a [redacted] and claim that I was friendly neighbour for absolutely no reason.

[massive]

Well, fine, let's call it "going along with the fake claim."

y u out me tho.

why dis guy outing the friendly neighbour tho.

If you were mad at Boon for this, why not hang him out to dry? You knew he was the FN at that point in time. Personally I think RB > FN here?

[RadiantCowbells]

And do what, claim roleblocker?

How the fuck am I supposed to react to that?

[RadiantCowbells]

Plus, he said "I turst your reads" which I took as him saying that he'd fucking NOT LYNCHING the person I fakeclaimed a guilty to defend and that he WOULD LYNCH the only person I called scum this entire game besides UTL.

[massive]

If you say "I'm not the FN, you are, dummy," then I leave you alone, probably for the rest of the game. I am perfectly happy to keep you around since you don't seem to be able to convince anyone to follow you. And I'm perfectly happy to kill Boons one night earlier than I had to.

If you say "yup, I'm the FN!" well then you must die, because you are conftown to half the town and I will never get a chance to mislynch you.

I don't know, man, this is why I hate gambits and lying townies. I just never see it work in their favor.

[RadiantCowbells]

And I was trying to keep down low.

I was forced to stick my head up because of how bad town was being.

And even that didn't save town.

*shrug*

I wasn't the reason we lost this. I didn't choose for Boon to claim that I was FN.

If you say "I'm not the FN, you are, dummy," then I leave you alone, probably for the rest of the game. I am perfectly happy to keep you around since you don't seem to be able to convince anyone to follow you. And I'm perfectly happy to kill Boons one night earlier than I had to.

If you say "yup, I'm the FN!" well then you must die, because you are conftown to half the town and I will never get a chance to mislynch you.

I don't know, man, this is why I hate gambits and lying townies. I just never see it work in their favor.

there's gambiting and being a fucking moron.

I am never playing with Boon again.

[RadiantCowbells]

Like I agree that I didn't react well to it.
But I was put on the spot in a pretty fucking horrible way by a selfish player who only cared about his own reads even after I got scum lynched.
That same player who claimed that they trusted my reads and lynched my biggest townread.

[RadiantCowbells]

I assumed that you would interpret me saying fuck you you're the FN boon go fuck yourself as me claiming PR.

I could be wrong.

[massive]

Honestly, I don't know. We had already killed the doc and the JOAT by that point. Getting a FN claim was just like, how stacked IS the town? We got a fucking encryptor! Whoop dee doo! So I was at the point where that FN had to be the last PR left. Getting a RB was just icing there.

[RadiantCowbells]

Yes, and so fucking not my fault.

I did not claim RBer.

Boon outed me because he 'can't read me' right after I saved town from lynching town and strongarmed onto scum and called the last scum.

[Ircher]

I knew scum had an encryptor

[Ircher]

@pk -- I am rather angry with you right now. WHY IN THE FREAKING WORLD DID YOU COMPLETELY IGNORE MY POSTS RIGHT BEFORE MY FLIP?

[Ircher]

I specifically said "DON'T VOTE", even bolded it cuz scum could quickhammer just like that