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Overwatch Mafia - Mod/Spectator/Dead thread

Post Post #0 (isolation #0) » Thu Apr 07, 2016 1:18 am

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Spoiler: RULES!
1) Sitewide rules and guidelines apply.
2) Do not quote or link to anything cannot be freely accessed everybody else reading the thread. This includes all private communication with the mods and private topics.
3) Discussion about this game is only allowed to happen within this thread unless especially told otherwise via your role pm.
4) Do not use excessive formatting in your posts; this includes tags and other items which will affect readability of the game. Spoiler= tags are allowed however plain spoiler tags are not. I may waive this rule on a case-by-case basis, if the plain spoiler tags are warranted.
5) Once revealed as dead, you are not allowed to post in thread,
this includes any “Bah!” posts
, until endgame where we have declared the winner.
6) Prods will be issued to those not posting in the thread for 48 hours, without declaring V/LA either bolded in thread, via pm to the mod or using V/LA tags. If you use V/LA tags I would still appreciate a PM.
7) If you fail to respond to a prod within 24 hours after it was sent out, you will be replaced.
8) I you accumulate 3 total prods, I may replace you.
9) If we have posted that a replacement is being sought for your slot, and you have arrived late after a prod or changed your mind after requesting replacement, you will be required to follow it through as per any other possible replacement. We will not hold the spot open for you if we do get an offer.
10) You may either use VOTE: tags or
Vote: bold
to vote during the day. Unvotes are appreciated however they are not required.
11) Abbreviations of usernames will count as long as I can identify who it is you're trying to vote.
12) To lynch someone you will require more than 50.1% of the votes available.
13) If there is no one above that level of votes at deadline, the day will end in a no lynch
14) Day phases will last a maximum of two weeks, night phases will last a minimum of 48 hours.
15) I reserve the right to use my own discretion regarding any issue. I reserve the right to modify this ruleset at any time.
16) Use common sense. Don't be a jerk. Have fun!
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Post Post #1 (isolation #1) » Sun Jul 10, 2016 4:14 pm

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Mercy

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Night actions:
Healing Beam
- protect the target from nightkills.
Damage Beam
- the target is a strongman and is immune to roleblocks.

Passive Abilities:
Healer
- you are loved, and thus require one more vote to be lynched.

Win Condition:
TOWN
- you win when all anti-town factions/players are eliminated.
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Post Post #2 (isolation #2) » Sun Jul 10, 2016 4:14 pm

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Torbjorn

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Night Actions:
Turret
- Each night, PM me a name. There will be an additional anonymous vote against that target for the entirety of the next day phase, under the name 'Turret'.

Passive Ailities:
Cancer
- You are hated, and thus require one less vote to be lynched.

Win Condition:
TOWN
- you win when all anti-town factions/players are eliminated.
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Post Post #3 (isolation #3) » Tue Jul 12, 2016 2:26 am

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D. Va

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Night Actions:
Defense Matrix
- Use this ability to become immune to all actions this night.
1-shot


Passive Ailities:
Mech
- If you die, you will return to life. If the death that caused this is dealt by the mafia faction, you will join them as a traitor. This ability will still trigger even if you are roleblocked or it was a strongman kill.

Win Condition:
TOWN
- you win when all anti-town factions/players are eliminated.
After Mech:
SCUM
- you win when all players who are not a member of your faction are dead, or nothing can prevent this.
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Post Post #4 (isolation #4) » Tue Jul 12, 2016 2:30 am

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Hanzo

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Night Actions:
Sonic Arrow
- Use this ability to determine the alignment of another player. If you target Genji, your results will be reversed for that investigation, and for the rest of the game.

Win Condition:
TOWN
- you win when all anti-town factions/players are eliminated
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Post Post #5 (isolation #5) » Tue Jul 12, 2016 2:33 am

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McCree

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Night Actions:
Flashbang
- Roleblock the target.
Fan the Hammer
- The target takes starts the day tomorrow with a vote on them (from a source named 'Bang!').
1-shot
.
Roll
- Regain your use of Fan the Hammer.

Win Condition:
TOWN
- you win when all anti-town factions/players are eliminated.
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Post Post #6 (isolation #6) » Tue Jul 12, 2016 2:35 am

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Zenyatta

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Night Actions:
Orb of Discord
- The target cannot be protected from kills.
Orb of Harmony
- If the target uses an
x-shot
ability, a shot is not expended.

Passive Abilities:
Orb Mastery
- you may use both of your night actions during the same night.
Omnic
- you are an Omnic. Your vote does not count against other Omnics.

Win Condition:
TOWN
- you win when all anti-town factions/players are dead.
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Post Post #7 (isolation #7) » Tue Jul 12, 2016 2:43 am

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Soldier 76

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Night Actions:
Biotic Field
- During the next day, everyone takes one additional vote to lynch.
1-shot
.
Sprint
- You are immune to day actions tomorrow.

Win Condition:
TOWN
- you win when all anti-town factions/players are dead.
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Post Post #8 (isolation #8) » Tue Jul 12, 2016 2:46 am

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Tracer

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Night Actions:
Recall
- You are immune to non-kill actions tonight.
1-shot
.
Pulse Bomb
- If yesterday was a no-lynch, kill a target player.
1-shot
.

Win Condition:
TOWN
- you win when all anti-town factions/players are eliminated.
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Post Post #9 (isolation #9) » Tue Jul 12, 2016 2:48 am

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Zarya

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Night Actions:
Graviton Surge
- Roleblock the target and everyone who visits them.
1-shot
.

Passive Abilities:
Omnic Hatred
- your vote counts double against Omnics.

Win Condition:
TOWN
- you win when all anti-town factions/players are eliminated.
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Post Post #10 (isolation #10) » Tue Jul 12, 2016 2:50 am

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Reinhardt

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Passive Abilities:
Shield
- you are immune to night kills.

Win Condition:
TOWN
- you win when all anti-town factions/players are eliminated.
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Post Post #11 (isolation #11) » Tue Jul 12, 2016 2:55 am

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Genji

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Night Actions:
Factional Kill
- each night, you or your partner may kill a target player.
Deflect
- all actions targeting you target the target of this ability instead.
1-shot


Passive Abilities:
Mafia
- You may communicate with your partner <HERE>. You know that there is a traitor that you can recruit.
Honor
- If you kill Hanzo, you can take no action the next night.
Part Omnic
- You start the game as an Omnic, and while you are an Omnic your vote does not count against other Omnics. If Zenyatta is still alive at the start of day 4, you are no longer an Omnic, and lose all related traits.


Win Condition:
Mafia
- you win when all players who are not a member of your faction are dead, or nothing can prevent this.
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Post Post #12 (isolation #12) » Tue Jul 12, 2016 3:03 am

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Widowmaker

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Night Actions:
Factional Kill
- each night, you or your partner may kill a target player.
Scope
- when you use this ability, you are a strongman if you use the factional kill next night.
Recon Visor
- learn the role name of your target and track them.
1-shot
.

Passive Abilities:
Mafia
- You may communicate with your partner <HERE>. You know that there is a traitor that you can recruit.
Widow's Whispers
- each night, in addition to your other action, send me a message. it will be relayed to another player. You don't know which, but it will be the same player each time. This continues after you die, until they die. This means that when you die, if the player you whisper to is still alive, you continue to whisper to them each night. you do not gain access to the dead thread until both of you are dead.

Win Condition:
Mafia
- you win when all players who are not a member of your faction are dead, or nothing can prevent this.
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Post Post #13 (isolation #13) » Tue Jul 12, 2016 3:09 am

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Junkrat

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Night Actions:
Concussion Mine
- each night, select a post number that has not been posted yet. Whomever posts there will be blown up! Don't kill yourself! (the mod will avoid posting on the specified number) (the bomb explosion counts as a day action, and thus works against people who are immune to nightkills)
Steel Trap
- each night, PM me one of the following action types:
KILL
,
INVESTIGATION
,
ROLEBLOCK
, or
OTHER
. You are immune to all actions of that type this night.

Passive Abilities:
Maniacal
- You may use both of your night actions each night.
Insane
- each night, you will hear voices.
Fakeclaim
- you know Roadhog is back home in Australia, and therefore not a role in this game.

Win Condition:
Serial Killer
- you win when all players except you are dead. You also win if, for some reason, all players are dead.
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Post Post #14 (isolation #14) » Tue Jul 12, 2016 3:19 am

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Post Post #15 (isolation #15) » Tue Jul 12, 2016 3:19 am

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SPECTATOR/DEAD THREAD STARTS HERE



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Post Post #17 (isolation #16) » Sat Jul 16, 2016 2:08 pm

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List Randomizer

There were 13 items in your list. Here they are in random order:

Peter Elrich Pines
Shadow_Step
Tracer
Vedith
Franky
massive
The Engineer
springlullaby
DoctorPepper
randomidget
Foxbird
podoboq
inte
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Post Post #19 (isolation #17) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 2:03 am

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yeah no one noticed her negative utility claim
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Post Post #20 (isolation #18) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 12:02 pm

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meanwhile in the scum thread, the mafia have correctly identified Genji (the player) as zenyatta due to his crumbs!
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Post Post #23 (isolation #19) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 4:03 pm

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In post 39, Foxbird wrote:I wanna NK him but that practically confirms that there's an Omnic in scum :(
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Post Post #26 (isolation #20) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:28 pm

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vedith investigates Tracer

shadowstep uses turret on doctorpepper

dgb takes no action

wake88 takes no action

mafia kills dgb

widow's whisper:
OK, so here's the deal. I have an ability that lets me send a single message to another player each night. It's the same player each night, you, but I don't know who you are.

The moderator has confirmed for me that you could be of any alignment. For all I know, you were literally chosen at random when roles were assigned at the beginning of the game, so I can't automatically assume that you're town. I don't want to give you any information yet, because if you're scum, then I'm just playing against my own win condition by telling you anything.

So I'm gonna need some information from you. I want to know who you are, and what character you are in the flavor. The caveat, you can't reply to me in this message. Your only way to talk to me is in the game thread, so I've devised a plan. I need you to send me a coded message.

In your first post of day 2, start with "That night phase felt really [insert adjective]." The adjective, will tell me which class of hero you are.

Offense = "short"
Defense = "fast"
Tank = "long"
Support = "lengthy"

So if you are Junkrat, for example, say "That night phase felt really fast," because Junkrat is a defense hero.

Start the second sentence of that post with the first letter of your character's name. For example, if Junkrat, start the second sentence with a J.

This way, I'm not asking you to say anything that impacts the way people perceive you in the game. The first sentence, while scripted, is just filler. The second sentence can have whatever meaning you want. It just needs to start with a specific letter.

There are two problems with this, though. Roadhog and Reinhardt are both tanks. If you are Roadhog, start your second sentence with an H instead of an R.

Zarya and Zenyatta would be tough, because it's not easy to start a sentence with a Z. Instead, you can start your sentence with a T.

So as an example, if you are Roadhog, you would post something like this as your first post of day 2.

That night phase felt really
long
.

H
ow do we want to proceed with Tracer? Should we just treat her as town for now and lynch her in lylo?

If you do this for me, I'll just go ahead and assume you are town. Night 2, I'll share with you who I am, all of the information in my role card, all of my reads, and anything else that could be helpful. We can use it kind of like a weird, one-sided neighborhood. I'll also give you more instructions if you want to communicate back to me within the normal game thread.

If you don't do this, I just can't trust you. I hope you understand that.



In case you aren't familiar with the flavor, here are the classes.
Offense:
Genji, McCree, Pharah, Reaper, Soldier 76, Tracer
Defense:
Bastion, Hanzo, Junkrat, Mei, Torbjorn, Widowmaker
Tank:
D.Va, Reinhardt, Roadhog[H], Winston, Zarya[T]
Support:
Ana, Lucio, Mercy, Symmetra, Zenyatta[T]


still waiting on the other actions
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Post Post #28 (isolation #21) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 1:20 am

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peter protects genji
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Post Post #29 (isolation #22) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 1:21 am

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podoboq activates Recon Visor on Vedith
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Post Post #30 (isolation #23) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:31 am

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genji > harmony > the engineer
genji > discord > wake

the engineer sprints
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Post Post #31 (isolation #24) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 11:52 am

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inte traps post 1001 and rotects himself from investigation
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Post Post #33 (isolation #25) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 4:53 pm

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genji is zenyatta.

he used harmony on engineer and discord on wake
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Post Post #34 (isolation #26) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:26 pm

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welcome dgb!
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Post Post #37 (isolation #27) » Sat Jul 30, 2016 9:51 am

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the mafia want to kill serra tonight

shame, that was my favorite role.
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Post Post #40 (isolation #28) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 2:07 pm

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welcome random!
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Post Post #44 (isolation #29) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 10:41 am

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same person
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Post Post #46 (isolation #30) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 3:42 pm

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oh . serrrapaladin/inte
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Post Post #49 (isolation #31) » Sun Aug 14, 2016 2:37 am

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wake uses recall
serra mines 1022, so the mines are (1001, 1022)
doctorpepper graviton surges the engineer
genji said 'i use my action on wake' which fails because he has 2 actions and he didn't specify which one
xkfyu heals podoboq
the engineer sprints
shadowstep turrets serra
vedith invests foxbird
foxbird deflects at serra (this could get interesting)
mafia kills xkfyu
whispers:

I assume that you didn't notice my message the first time, or you're
inte-who replaced out
serrapaladin. In the case that you don't trust me, I'm gonna go ahead and just gamble that I'm sending this to town, since I already claimed a lot of my information anyway.

I'm podoboq. I am Widowmaker. I have two abilities. The first is Widow's Whispers which communicates with another player at night (I can use it after I die, fun fact), but the caveat is I don't know who I'm sending it to. I don't even know if they've already died. I still think it's possible that it's completely random, but if not, I think I might be talking to Wake88. There is a potential flavor justification for Widow to be whispering to Tracer, so if you're Wake, hey buddy, what's up?

My second ability is Recon Visor, which is a one-shot tracker shot that also gives me the target's name. I used that n1 on Vedith. I saw that he was Hanzo, and that he visited Tracer (the player, not the character). So I had a lot of thoughts on that, because I'm pretty familiar with the flavor. What could his night actions be? Most obvious, a factional kill, but obviously Tracer didn't die. Second most obvious, a vig shot, but again, Tracer didn't die. My last thought was that he ALSO has a tracker ability. In the game, Hanzo can shoot an arrow at a location, and then see the silhouettes of every character near that location. It's possible he motion-detected on Tracer (because it makes sense to target her with that). What doesn't make sense, however, is how that confirms her as town to him (unless his tracker shot gives him alignment for some reason), or how he townread random based off of targeting Tracer. Even if random visited (which he probably couldn't, because he flipped Reinhardt), it shouldn't communicate alignment to him in anyway.
Vedith's post near the end of the day wrote:Infact, if you know who I am and who I visited, then unless your IQ is below 5, you know exactly what I was saying today and know that I'm town.
I have no idea where this is coming from, because with the information I have, implying random is town based on moderator confirmed information (which is what he was doing) is bullshit. There's no way for random to actually be confirmed to Vedith unless he is scum.
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Post Post #50 (isolation #32) » Sun Aug 14, 2016 2:41 am

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welcome xkfyu!
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Post Post #51 (isolation #33) » Sun Aug 14, 2016 8:04 am

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rip podo
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Post Post #52 (isolation #34) » Sun Aug 14, 2016 1:24 pm

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I think foxbird can actually win this if he convinces town to lynch serra, and then kills vedith tonight
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Post Post #53 (isolation #35) » Sun Aug 14, 2016 1:27 pm

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oh no

Serra's invest immunity should have protected him
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Post Post #54 (isolation #36) » Sun Aug 14, 2016 1:32 pm

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man i feel terrible
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Post Post #66 (isolation #37) » Fri Aug 19, 2016 2:07 pm

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I'll give you the info you need and make an announcement in thread
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Post Post #67 (isolation #38) » Fri Aug 19, 2016 2:08 pm

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ok, rach.

shadow_step is torbjorn
wake88 is tracer
Tracer is D.Va
The Engineer is soldier 76
doctorpepper is zarya
foxbird is Genji
Serrapaladin is junkrat
Genji is Zenyatta
Vedith is Hanzo
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Post Post #73 (isolation #39) » Sat Aug 20, 2016 5:29 pm

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added
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Post Post #74 (isolation #40) » Sat Aug 20, 2016 5:30 pm

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I'll resolve the night actions in a couple days
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Post Post #85 (isolation #41) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 2:18 am

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post 1404 was mined.

remember that the engineer is immune to mines if he uses sprint
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Post Post #96 (isolation #42) » Sun Aug 28, 2016 11:29 am

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I'm back!
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Post Post #101 (isolation #43) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 3:49 am

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town is flailing hard i think
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Post Post #104 (isolation #44) » Wed Aug 31, 2016 5:02 am

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1404 and 1409 are mined
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Post Post #109 (isolation #45) » Wed Aug 31, 2016 10:09 am

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In post 108, podoboq wrote: This ability is interesting, but I feel like it's not accomplishing the goal it was supposed to. You saw how it played out this game, where she essentially just got to pick to be town, which means it can't really count as negative town utility, and can really offset balance.

The way I've seen this work before is a player is passive one-shot deathproof from the factional mafia kill. When that deathproof is used up, they become a mafia goon. The mafia isn't informed of the change in alignment until the next night, when the converted player is now on their team.

This way, if the player is lynched, day-vigged, killed by a serial killer, or anything else other than mafia factional kill, they just die. That way, they can't explain their role in game, because there's no way to protect themselves. A lynch is just a mislynch, and if they reveal their role to be open, their alignment could change in the future, and they don't survive into LYLO. So they are forced to play like a traitor, in case they get converted, making them strong negative town utility.


Just my two cents. It felt like this was placed in the game to help out the scum team with only two members, but that was stifled pretty immediately by D.Va basically full claiming in order to not be converted.
Absolutely. I only realized after the fact that the mechanics could be abused in that way.
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Post Post #111 (isolation #46) » Wed Aug 31, 2016 5:54 pm

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Well if I make a similar role in the future, I'll keep all this in mind to make it more balanced.
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Post Post #125 (isolation #47) » Tue Sep 13, 2016 4:31 pm

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In post 122, podoboq wrote:
In post 1270, MariaR wrote:VOTE: Maria
Try me
Purposefully playing against win condition. Accidentally playing toward it, because ending the day earlier is going to make it harder for Junkrat to get people to his mines.
this

it is quite funny
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Post Post #161 (isolation #48) » Fri Sep 16, 2016 1:16 am

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looks like serra wins
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Post Post #163 (isolation #49) » Fri Sep 16, 2016 2:54 am

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and 1400

last night's mine
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Post Post #169 (isolation #50) » Fri Sep 16, 2016 5:57 am

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it wouldnt have mattered if you voted, it was the post # that killed you

pedit: what she said^
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Post Post #177 (isolation #51) » Fri Sep 16, 2016 7:52 am

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I've actually used it in a previous game...
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Post Post #183 (isolation #52) » Fri Sep 16, 2016 2:09 pm

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the game has ended! please discuss the game in the main thread:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p8337918
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