STEVEN UNIVERSE 2 - GAME OVER

[Reasonably Rational]

A50, did you know about the BP thing too? If you did, why didn't you corroborate his claim that he should ally with mastin, given your townread on both slots?

-Cerb

[Creature]

but he can make pro-town players BP.

[SirCakez]

Nah, I don't lynch someone who's likely to be killed if town.

UNVOTE:

i disagree, that claim doesn't make SirCakez a target for a night kill.

Weren't you townreading me?
What's up with this mudslinging?

[Reasonably Rational]

A50, did you know about the BP thing too? If you did, why didn't you corroborate his claim that he should ally with mastin, given your townread on both slots?

-Cerb

Nah, I don't lynch someone who's likely to be killed if town.

UNVOTE:

i disagree, that claim doesn't make SirCakez a target for a night kill.

Weren't you townreading me?
What's up with this mudslinging?

I'm not do sure he was townreading you.

Did A50 know about the BP thing, yes or no?

-Cerb

[Not Chara]

Nah, I don't lynch someone who's likely to be killed if town.

UNVOTE:

i disagree, that claim doesn't make SirCakez a target for a night kill.

Weren't you townreading me?
What's up with this mudslinging?

...i have been voting you for quite a long time now. there was a time when i considered unvoting, but that didn't happen.

[Reasonably Rational]

Regarding Varsoon giving the role to scum: absolutely possible. The BP thing is, in and of itself, probably NAI(particularly given the mechanical ability to bypass BP at low stress).This is part of why I want to know what knowledge of SC'S role A50 and/or the members of the Joyride had, to see how said knowledge may have forced his hand in terms of his play.

-Cerb

[SirCakez]

Nah, I don't lynch someone who's likely to be killed if town.

UNVOTE:

i disagree, that claim doesn't make SirCakez a target for a night kill.

Weren't you townreading me?
What's up with this mudslinging?

...i have been voting you for quite a long time now. there was a time when i considered unvoting, but that didn't happen.

I definitely recall you explicitly townreading me but not moving your vote

@RR Almost knew the whole day I was the BP provider. The joy ride did not know though.

[SirCakez]

Cakez: grapes is scum. i'm not telling them anything about my role. also not worth it, because mastin made it very clear she does not want to risk allying with scum, and in her own words she is 85% sure i'm scum.

fuck. i feel as though things are finally moving in a way i can actually affect, and i don't even think Cakez is scum anymore.

i'm breaking my silence on OWK because i

have

to ask: how is farside still strong town to you when she will, apparently, single-handedly assure my win for the scumteam? do you have such a low opinion of her play? the same low opinion she seems to have of yours? how in the blazes are you two townreading each other, again? i'll probably regret this in some way later.

pedit: yes Cakez, please don't flame. it's both of those things, and also you don't need to.

This implies a townread on me

grapes might not be scum. if Cakez is scum, grapes is town. and Cakez called our argument TvT because he knew that's what it was. would also be the reason for his defense of me, when otherwise i'm an incredibly safe wagon for scum to choose.

grapes is town no matter what, period.
You being town is the only thing in question, HOWEVER, regardless of whether you are or aren't town, SirCakez is definitely scum.

i'm, at the moment, toying with the idea of SirCakez being scum because of his defense of me.
i applied the same thought to farside and am still working through that. however, she does feel more town for reasons i don't have time to explain but would be happy to later.
feel free to believe it's because SirCakez is my partner, because today he is one of the players i am looking through. i could see myself voting him today.

This is uncertainty of me being scum.

Like he's the biggest wagon in the biggest wagon in the thread and he only retreats to be undisturbed

now

? He's retreating to lurk out his wagon and get you to do what they want Farside.

Also to be okay with only certain players allowed to lurk is BS.
This is why I'm ignoring you.
Snarky sure as shit didn't defend himself.

Bite me

No one is allowed to lurk. That's insane.

You're ignoring me because I disagree with you.

Snarky isn't lurking.

Yes he is.

Sc has posted way more and to calling lurking is BS.
Just like rr does nothing to defend himself, but that's okay with titus.
Basically your fucking bias.

Volume =\= Active

RR has defended himself. SC ran to your PT and is only coming out now. SC has no content of value, RR does.

i don't understand this. Cakez said he wasn't around yesterday, but has been active otherwise, and none of his posts have really lacked content besides. you can say you disagree with the content, but it is there.
and farside just said that Cakez wasn't avoiding the thread in favour of their hood. why won't you trust her judgement on her own hood partner?
that's what you're asking us to do with you and Rational, after all. i specifically remember you saying Rational was discussing their reads in your hood.

And this is an outright defense of me.

Your actions don't align with how you're pushing me at all.

[Firebringer]

particularly given the mechanical ability to bypass BP at low stress)

Ummm did I miss something?

[Firebringer]

nvm, found that.

[Not Chara]

SirCakez:
1485 was me explicity saying i townread you.
2098 is my scumread on you getting

stronger

. i was townreading you before.
2321 had to do with Titus's assumptions (a theme this game) and wanting to clear up misconceptions. there is no need to attack a player based on things that aren't true. just because that wasn't true does not mean the other things are suddenly also untrue.

did you not notice that i hadn't unvoted you? did you believe i was townreading you and just letting your lynch happen? that, to me, is much more suspicious (if that was your belief) than what you have chosen to focus on.

[SirCakez]

You voted me a while before 1485 though.
2098 I misinterpreted
I thought you were letting my lynch go because you had at me at null and didn't really care. You never really stated a solid scumread on me, unless I missed something.

[Not Chara]

you just said you thought i was townreading you. now you thought i had you at null?

i did vote you a while before. what does that have to do with 1485?

[farside22]

Just knew that the joy ride could target each other and could not be targeted by anyone outside the group.
I was aware of the voting everyone for the same player and getting an extra vote, which I hinted at.

[SirCakez]

you just said you thought i was townreading you. now you thought i had you at null?

i did vote you a while before. what does that have to do with 1485?

No, at 1485 you were townreading me and you voted me a while before 1485. So I was correct that you were townreading me for a period while still voting me.

[Not Chara]

you just said you thought i was townreading you. now you thought i had you at null?

i did vote you a while before. what does that have to do with 1485?

No, at 1485 you were townreading me and you voted me a while before 1485. So I was correct that you were townreading me for a period while still voting me.

sure. you're correct.

but i was talking about 2777. you said you thought i was townreading you while voting you (and you being close to a lynch) and

then

you said you thought i had you at null.

[SirCakez]

Yeah, you were townreading me like I just pointed out?
I never saw the jump to a fullon scumread so I then assumed you had me at null which is why the aggression surprised me.

Not sure what is confusing about this.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

I counterclaim part of SirCakez.

[Not Chara]

Yeah, you were townreading me like I just pointed out?
I never saw the jump to a fullon scumread so I then assumed you had me at null which is why the aggression surprised me.

Not sure what is confusing about this.

i didn't realize when you said 'i thought you were townreading me', you were referring to earlier, and not now. that is confusing.

mostly, i think SirCakez being unvoted only for that claim should not be happening.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

but he can make pro-town players BP.

Any scum an fakeclaim that, since they already know whom they are killing.

[Not Chara]

Nah, I don't lynch someone who's likely to be killed if town.

UNVOTE:

i disagree, that claim doesn't make SirCakez a target for a night kill.

Weren't you townreading me?
What's up with this mudslinging?

come to think of it, having issues with your claim is not mud-slinging in the first place.

[farside22]

but he can make pro-town players BP.

Any scum an fakeclaim that, since they already know whom they are killing.

Just knew that the joy ride could target each other and could not be targeted by anyone outside the group.
I was aware of the voting everyone for the same player and getting an extra vote, which I hinted at.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

but he can make pro-town players BP.

Any scum an fakeclaim that, since they already know whom they are killing.

Just knew that the joy ride could target each other and could not be targeted by anyone outside the group.
I was aware of the voting everyone for the same player and getting an extra vote, which I hinted at.

So, why the resistance to voting obvscum? Wouldn't the rest of you get the power?

[SirCakez]

Yeah, you were townreading me like I just pointed out?
I never saw the jump to a fullon scumread so I then assumed you had me at null which is why the aggression surprised me.

Not sure what is confusing about this.

i didn't realize when you said 'i thought you were townreading me', you were referring to earlier, and not now. that is confusing.

That's why I said "weren't you townreading me?"
as in the past

Nah, I don't lynch someone who's likely to be killed if town.

UNVOTE:

i disagree, that claim doesn't make SirCakez a target for a night kill.

Weren't you townreading me?
What's up with this mudslinging?

come to think of it, having issues with your claim is not mud-slinging in the first place.

Things like "why are you unvoting for his claim?" are def mudslinging

I counterclaim part of SirCakez.

I would not be surprised if part of your scum role mirrors my town one, would be fitting.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

^^^ Resignation. He's done.