Large Normal 201 - House of Harmony - At The End(GAME OVER)

[Pepchoninga]

I explained my read on him when he asked me. You might want to read that part again before misreping it.

Naaaaaaah, you're misrepping me now.
You never interacted with him up to the point where he asked for a case.
If I phrased it differently sorry, that's what I meant.

It is true that i didnt interact with him until i mentioned my sr on him but the point you make is that i made a case without interacting with him.
I gave the case when he asked me why he is in my scumreads.

Either way i dont see what is bad about developing a scumread on someone.
Please explain how it makes me scum when you dont even take your time to argue about my points on him.

I kind afeel like Manuel is town.

[Pepchoninga]

oh tldr for the Jaaaack shitcase.
1. Tone makes me feel uncomfortable with the slot.
2. Pushes Ram but then hops on the Pep wagon at the wrong time.
3. His attempts to indirectly pocket me and/or chainsawing me by pushing Ram
4. Attacking Ram for not really caring where his vote went where I felt like Jaack didn't really care where he put his votes as long sa it was on a scumread.
Yet again I end up doing the last point a lot as town so ehhhh.

Tldr

What does tldr stand for exactly?

[Pepchoninga]

Well Alisae

The Ramcius wagon has scum on it

That's fo sho.

Pine and Pep are town.

That leaves?.....

You and Jaack!

You might be on to something, but you're also possibly scum there.

The Mick lynch will be a thing and nothing is stopping that.

Why do you exclude the position of Ram being scum tho?

[Pepchoninga]

But since

Jaack is my scum partner

the Mick lynch is pure ownage, Jaack will not see the rope today.

You way whaaaaa? O_O

[Pepchoninga]

I thought so too, when I was PMing the mod to replace in. It's a shame, I enjoy playing scum more. But nah, I'm town.

I immediately don't like this post lol xD

You will need to make a very good explaining if you actually want me to belive you ain't scum, cuz your predecessor did the slips, now are you gonna confirm them?

[Pepchoninga]

can we lynch alisae or transcend?

Not Voting -

PenguinPower, Lemon Tree, kuror0, ironstove, Elena Fisher, Clumsy

or at least cast votes the fuck already already

What's the rush?

[Pepchoninga]

(Splitting up defense and opinions because shut up)

I'm not in love with the Mick wagon tbh.

I mean I don't love his most recent post (590 which was quite long ago but whatever) because it's just kinda lazy observations - people aren't here, Pepcho posts weird. But his drunken anti-gerry tirade feels more town than not to me.

Elena's entrance was meh/lean scum but Indigo was townlean. Neither side of the slot has done enough to convince me either way.

I still think ramslot is scum, but if it somehow is town, then I think that pepcho is more than likely to be scum. Their mutual quote wars didn't look TvT at all to me.

Will review other stuff but I'm getting lazy at this point.

You've got the Ramshot figured out I think

Also, I ain't drunk?! Mah posts make perfect sense.

[Pepchoninga]

Clum (Rem) town
Gerry Town
Cow town
Alisae towny
Slight sr om Manuel from what I've seen well prob iso that later
Iron scum

I don't like this.

Firstly why read Clum (Ram) as town?

What do you think of me? There seems to be a lot of players missing and overall these reads are made in a rush.

[Pepchoninga]

You ain't much better then me sucker. Stop thinking you can use other people as an excuse to call me shit.

LMAO I'm not calling him shit. I'm making a refrence to goodsh1t.dek
Also my theory has been shit as of late so....

Tho I agree Jaack had no reason to vote me, considering the lolfull playing of Ram.

LOL WTF

can we lynch alisae or transcend?

Not Voting -

PenguinPower, Lemon Tree, kuror0, ironstove, Elena Fisher, Clumsy

or at least cast votes the fuck already already

Light townread for you that'll probably change later.

Who's him? What? And yes, I can agree with that.

Why the wtf tho? U drunk or something?

Um he wants the rope on you and a player I think you TR...how does this give you a reason to TR him. I genuinely don't like this post.

[Pepchoninga]

Who's him? What? And yes, I can agree with that.

Why the wtf tho? U drunk or something?

Um he wants the rope on you and a player I think you TR...how does this give you a reason to TR him. I genuinely don't like this post.

1. Jaack. And you aren't getting away with explaining why my theory is shit unless you can say why it is.
2. I do need to see more from the dude, and pine pointed them out so now they're back to null. But ~reasons~. And what's wrong for giving someone a light TR orgionally for them going after my own TRs and myself?

I find it hard to understand your recent posts lol.

Ummm, I didn't say your theory is shit...I agree that the way Jaazk hopped on me is way too opportunistic and hardly explainable. He says nobody was interested in his Ram case, but this shouldn't be entirely true. I would've been more then interested to get another case on my top scumread. My case on Ram was neglected to some extent too. I find it hard to belive that Jaack just decided It would be better for him if he joined my wagon. Also the reasoning for that was alwful.

I don't understand the second. Maybe cuz I'm still sleepy.

[Pepchoninga]

You don't understand the 2nd because you don't know him.

Great, I guess you wont elaborate.

[Pepchoninga]

Clum (Rem) town
Gerry Town
Cow town
Alisae towny
Slight sr om Manuel from what I've seen well prob iso that later
Iron scum

I don't like this.

Firstly why read Clum (Ram) as town?

What do you think of me? There seems to be a lot of players missing and overall these reads are made in a rush.

Rem for the upset sub out
Yes there are a lot of people missing so why do you think there rushed I'd understand if you thought that if I had everyone on here but these are only a select few
I think you're hard scum because you always asking for a read on yourself means you care what others think on you and that should be the last thing on your mind as town it's a subconscious thing as scum

Ummm, that doesn't make him town in any way...or explain his previous actions wich were scum all round.

Wow, this is the worst reason to belive I'm a HARD SCUM like ever. I asked for myself since I didn't see myself in your reads. It is normal. Your reads seem fake and forced. Also you have excluded players that are active and do have content if you want to base a read on them.

[Pepchoninga]

I feel better about my Pep sr then my Iron sr infact
VOTE: Pep

Lol.

[Pepchoninga]

^ Townpost IMO.

Why is thst a townpost?

[Pepchoninga]

I'm abou to just say fk it. cause my top 2 SRs wont have big enough wagons and the people on ConMan's wagon looks good.

Terry why don't we vote the Ram slot? Well after we get more content from the slot.

[Pepchoninga]

Edit; from the replacement

[Pepchoninga]

Shit photoshop job Garry

ur just mad ur not my new best friend

No I'm satly because I actually do do GFX work and i iz pro with photoshop. Look at my pro skillz


I can post more if you want

At least you have started lowering the saturation, cuz it made your work like cancer artwork from the 90s.

[Pepchoninga]

Clum (Rem) town
Gerry Town
Cow town
Alisae towny
Slight sr om Manuel from what I've seen well prob iso that later
Iron scum

I don't like this.

Firstly why read Clum (Ram) as town?

What do you think of me? There seems to be a lot of players missing and overall these reads are made in a rush.

Rem for the upset sub out
Yes there are a lot of people missing so why do you think there rushed I'd understand if you thought that if I had everyone on here but these are only a select few
I think you're hard scum because you always asking for a read on yourself means you care what others think on you and that should be the last thing on your mind as town it's a subconscious thing as scum

Ummm, that doesn't make him town in any way...or explain his previous actions wich were scum all round.

Wow, this is the worst reason to belive I'm a HARD SCUM like ever. I asked for myself since I didn't see myself in your reads. It is normal. Your reads seem fake and forced. Also you have excluded players that are active and do have content if you want to base a read on them.

Asking about yourself if I had you in my reads list is fine but you're not in it and I don't need to explain again why it's scummy
you can say it's fake and forced all you want with no reasoning it's just shade and worthless
I've read since my replace in and going so the "active" players dont really work for me

Ummm you don't need to explain why I'm scummy? How is this pro-town then? If I'm not in it then I would assume I'm a null. Not a scum. If I was in your mind indeed a scum I should've been in that reads list. Simple as that. Me asking is normal. Also I could get that you just forgot me and some of the other active players. But your reactions says that you made it intentionally and this has no pro-town meaning at all. So no, I have reasoning to think your reads are fake and forced. But YOU don't actually have a good reason SR me hence your vote is random and applyid after I asked you a simple question.

[Pepchoninga]

Pep is lynch bait. Someone put a note on his back that says "LYNCH ME PLS xDDD"

vote iron instead

Do you say that I'm bad? Cuz I'm gonna fight the shit out of you for that! Respect the God pls ^^

[Pepchoninga]

Wtf this is a mafia game, not animu bae

You just salty cuz you don't have sick Photoshop skillz like me

Who needs photoshop skills when you can design evil setups and let your puppets play them?
-S

Savage mod.

Also ya Photoshop skillz suck ass! I'm better

[Pepchoninga]

actually shit Pep is gonna start posting his.

Calling my superior skills shit is triggering me...expect my best work posted soon.

[Pepchoninga]

Tags:


Steam Avis:

wow ur really good. can you make me an avi sometime

He would be pretty good if his work WASNT SATURATED LIKE THAT!

[Pepchoninga]

Also ya Photoshop skillz suck ass! I'm better

See this children. This is what we call a lie.

My work will speak louder then words

[Pepchoninga]

Clum (Rem) town
Gerry Town
Cow town
Alisae towny
Slight sr om Manuel from what I've seen well prob iso that later
Iron scum

I don't like this.

Firstly why read Clum (Ram) as town?

What do you think of me? There seems to be a lot of players missing and overall these reads are made in a rush.

Rem for the upset sub out
Yes there are a lot of people missing so why do you think there rushed I'd understand if you thought that if I had everyone on here but these are only a select few
I think you're hard scum because you always asking for a read on yourself means you care what others think on you and that should be the last thing on your mind as town it's a subconscious thing as scum

Ummm, that doesn't make him town in any way...or explain his previous actions wich were scum all round.

Wow, this is the worst reason to belive I'm a HARD SCUM like ever. I asked for myself since I didn't see myself in your reads. It is normal. Your reads seem fake and forced. Also you have excluded players that are active and do have content if you want to base a read on them.

Asking about yourself if I had you in my reads list is fine but you're not in it and I don't need to explain again why it's scummy
you can say it's fake and forced all you want with no reasoning it's just shade and worthless
I've read since my replace in and going so the "active" players dont really work for me

Ummm you don't need to explain why I'm scummy? How is this pro-town then? If I'm not in it then I would assume I'm a null. Not a scum. If I was in your mind indeed a scum I should've been in that reads list. Simple as that. Me asking is normal. Also I could get that you just forgot me and some of the other active players. But your reactions says that you made it intentionally and this has no pro-town meaning at all. So no, I have reasoning to think your reads are fake and forced. But YOU don't actually have a good reason SR me hence your vote is random and applyid after I asked you a simple question.

I didn't have you in my list because I didn't scumread you until you made the post asking for a read on you

Oh...so this reason is enough to call me hard scum? And you feel better about me being scum then iron? I call this is BS right now.

[Pepchoninga]

Here is some nice GFX dudes ^^ Not Alis's shit

[Pepchoninga]

tbh the last one is kinda decent.
Last are all meh cuz lack of shadows.

Last one is prolly gonna win a SOTW if you go vote for it over at DA

Also at least mine don't liek they are pixalated.

[Pepchoninga]

Of course you call it bs scum lol

Lynch this now people. She hasn't give one good reason to scumread me and she ignores commenting in mine and then just continues to call me scum...this needs rope.

VOTE: Elena Fisher

[Pepchoninga]

^ Townpost IMO.

Why is thst a townpost?

Sacrificed their vote on a wagon for one they think is more likely to flip scum.

Yet she has zero evidence on me. So no, the vote is more of a scumtell. The vote on me was sudden and without any good explanation.

[Pepchoninga]

Welcome to Large Normal 201 - Art Gallery!

Welcome dude ^^

[Pepchoninga]

OMGUS!
pedit: MOD PLEASE!

To who is this directed to?

[Pepchoninga]

I feel like talking to you is quite useless since I'm very confident in your flip so go on and squirm it'll be fun to watch

Why not interact with your scumread to attempt to prove them wrong and look even more scummier?

At least you have started lowering the saturation, cuz it made your work like cancer artwork from the 90s.

OMGAWD XD
THAT BURN FUCKING HURTS

This was savage!Pep at his best nigga

[Pepchoninga]

Ignore commenting on what you're just yelling bs at the top of your lungs.

and the classic omgus

You make this easy.
Pedit: My evidence is you scumtold and I said why it's a scumtell
you just trying "no " isn't proof it's not

Lol. Lol. Lol.

[Pepchoninga]

OMGUS!
pedit: MOD PLEASE!

To who is this directed to?

You voting Elena.

How is my vote on Elena OMGUS?

[Pepchoninga]

Pep moves into the definitelymegakillscum category.

Why am I such a scum all of a sudden?

[Pepchoninga]

I'd be down for lynching Pep cosnidering the all kinds of information that that flip would tell us.

What kind of information would it give actually?

[Pepchoninga]

I'd be down for lynching Pep cosnidering the all kinds of information that that flip would tell us.

What kind of information would it give actually?

If you are town, we could analyze the wagon to find out if you're lynchbait or not and who pushed that hard.
If you're scum, it gives me information about someone I'm not listing right now for ~Reasons~

Ummmm, this is reason I don't know if I should like. Anyways, why don't you see why I actually voted Elena then just call it OMGUS. Maybe you could get a lot more info if you do.

[Pepchoninga]

Hey Trans

[Pepchoninga]

All's good, wbu?

[Pepchoninga]

Nice to know ^^

[Pepchoninga]

dw Pep I'll say why eventually.

Good, now go look at my interactions with Elena and tell me what you think.

[Pepchoninga]

Pep is town

Wrong.

Present a case and people might just belive you.

[Pepchoninga]

I am now a Survivor

Wohooo, congrats ^^

[Pepchoninga]

Pep is town

Wrong.

Present a case and people might just belive you.

Already said what evidence I need (and that you keep doing)
Why don't you take your own advice and go through the person I replaced and myself to see what scummy things I've done.
Pedit: When Pep gets about 7 or 8 more votes

Hmmm, you don't wanna present a case. Yes, this is also not pro-town.

The scummiest thing you've done is the reaction you gave to my simple question. Your reasoning behind your vote was lolfull too. Also your reads are pretty strange, not argumented and most definetely rushed and kinda fake.

[Pepchoninga]

Pep moves into the definitelymegakillscum category.

Why am I such a scum all of a sudden?

It hasn't been sudden. You've been kind of opportunistic, your reads are all kinds of made up, and you're making all kinds of newbiescum tells.

Pep is town

Show your work.

I am now a Survivor

Ay nice 10k posts bro.

I'm coming up on mine.

How am I being opportunistic? The 2 serious votes I've made so far have been mostly me doing my scumhunting.
Again, point out my newbscum mistkaes please.

[Pepchoninga]

knowing me I'll get mine in a few months from now or some shit.

Lol, you and me don't have lives, so yeah, it's not imposible.

[Pepchoninga]

Pep is town

Wrong.

Present a case and people might just belive you.

Already said what evidence I need (and that you keep doing)
Why don't you take your own advice and go through the person I replaced and myself to see what scummy things I've done.
Pedit: When Pep gets about 7 or 8 more votes

Hmmm, you don't wanna present a case. Yes, this is also not pro-town.

The scummiest thing you've done is the reaction you gave to my simple question. Your reasoning behind your vote was lolfull too. Also your reads are pretty strange, not argumented and most definetely rushed and kinda fake.

You're right I don't want to present a case I'm not a case person.
What question?

Lol, you cannot not make cases and think you are gonna be believable. You need to at least make good points. Else you are either implying that you only play on gut, or that you are scum that has an inability to create good reads and/or cases.

I asked a question what do you think of my slot since you didn't put me in your reads. This was you grand argument for me being scum. Kinda strange you don't remember it.

[Pepchoninga]

I just assumed you meant a dif question because that was quite obv
You asking people over and over what they think of your slot means you care for their opinions on your slot as town I don't see why you would unless talking to a clear of some sort (maybe) a townread but it just seems like overly considered scum
I don't play on gut I see something I dislike I will tell you why I dislike it
I will not give a giant case on someone unless I see fit.


Now let me ask do you consider yourself a person who confirm bia's people? I know I do sometimes.

I don't ask people what they think of my slot over and over. I only ask when I don't see myself in there reads or want a clarification on why they think I'm a certain allingment, or there is a specific thing I want to learn from the people I'm asking this question to. And no, I don't agree. Why would scum always ask for what other people think? This gets them unneeded attention and it might lead to the other people actually looking more into you, hence possibly findling a slip in you.

Well you say you don't play on gut, but your reasons to lynch me are weak, you cannot deny that. You pointed one thing you don't like and now act like I'm obvscum. If you have anything else against me, please be sure to point it out and tell me why you dislike it. But just a couple of posts before you said you are not a cases guy. But please you cannot just lynch a person on one point that is not even that relevant or scummy.

[Pepchoninga]

I just assumed you meant a dif question because that was quite obv
You asking people over and over what they think of your slot means you care for their opinions on your slot as town I don't see why you would unless talking to a clear of some sort (maybe) a townread but it just seems like overly considered scum
I don't play on gut I see something I dislike I will tell you why I dislike it
I will not give a giant case on someone unless I see fit.


Now let me ask do you consider yourself a person who confirm bia's people? I know I do sometimes.

I don't ask people what they think of my slot over and over. I only ask when I don't see myself in there reads or want a clarification on why they think I'm a certain allingment, or there is a specific thing I want to learn from the people I'm asking this question to. And no, I don't agree. Why would scum always ask for what other people think? This gets them unneeded attention and it might lead to the other people actually looking more into you, hence possibly findling a slip in you.

Well you say you don't play on gut, but your reasons to lynch me are weak, you cannot deny that. You pointed one thing you don't like and now act like I'm obvscum. If you have anything else against me, please be sure to point it out and tell me why you dislike it. But just a couple of posts before you said you are not a cases guy. But please you cannot just lynch a person on one point that is not even that relevant or scummy.

Not an awful post

claps

You say my reasons are weak but you must remember I just subbed into this game and I found a few people I sr out of them all you are the strongest so I am voting you I don't think asking how someone in your reads should really bother you your goal is to lynch scum someone's read on you really shouldn't matter to you as much as you are making them out to be and to me it looks like scum wanting someone's opinion instead of town trying to figure out a player.

Well thanks ^^ too bad your still haven't posted on thing that is not alwful.

Lol, I reasoning is weak cuz it's weak. Period. I don't belive thst you subbing in has anything to do with that. You have enough content from our interaction to present a case of things you think indicates me being scum. The fact that you are ignoring this is just confirming my case. Make what you wanna make, this is an obvious sight.

I think you need to reconsider your meta. I care what people think of me, because I want to lynch scum. If they think I'm scum I ask why and try to explain to them why they are wrong. You ain't trying to figure out a player either, so you are working against your words. Atm you are being cocky, non-progressive in your case against me and definitely anti-town.

[Pepchoninga]

Can you post a new and improved rainbow reads list?
Pep was the scummiest in your last one, what changed?

Happy cake-with-a-candle day!
-S

I find it kinda hard to believe that scum would tunnel someone this hard this early, but on a tone-read, it still sounds scummy. :/

Good, cuz I ain't scum. Go past the tone part and you will see my reasoning about two players that scream scum with there actions. I bet my house that one of them is scum.

[Pepchoninga]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY YOSHIII!

[Pepchoninga]

Transcend plays with me the most on and off this site. I think you should trust his read on me if you TR him

I play with Alisae off site and I can tell ya...this bitch still is almost unreadable to me day 1 lol.

[Pepchoninga]

A lot of Alisae's posts around 600-700 look good on the surface, but something is rubbing me wrong there. Feels like scum trying to look like they're game solving, but asking questions that don't lead anywhere or can just be used to throw shade.

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT

That's what I think every time someone on this site call you a she.

[Pepchoninga]

{gerryoat!!!!}

xDDD, I know i'm triggering ppl doing this

{Transcend, PeregrineV}

{Alise, Pine, BigYoshiFan}

{Kuror0, Elena Fisher}

{Jaaack, Pepchoninga}

{Gamma Emerald, Lemon Tree, drealmerz7, PenguinPower}

{Clumsy, ConManMick}

{Manuel87}

{Ironstove}

Here!!!!

Explain Elena please.

[Pepchoninga]

While some of your reads are just plain wrong, why the hell is Ramicus on the town side of things?

um...didnt u sub in for him.....

Yes. And he's been such a scum-fuck this entire game.

Good question followed by a hilarious answer. I belive this should be analyzed. This seems to obvious tbh. You say how poorly Ram played in attempt to actually get people to re-think on you. I was kinda liking your catch up, you seemed to have an opinion on the stuff that happened, but still post pinged me a lot.

[Pepchoninga]

Transcend plays with me the most on and off this site. I think you should trust his read on me if you TR him

I play with Alisae off site and I can tell ya...this bitch still is almost unreadable to me day 1 lol.

That was before I came here

You are still the same ol' bote tho.

[Pepchoninga]

Reads by group, town at top

Manuel87
Ramcius
gerryoat

Alisae
BigYoshiFan

drealmerz7
Transcend
Pine
Jaack
Elena Fisher

Indigo

kuror0
Lemon Tree
PenguinPower

Gamma Emerald
ConManMick

Pepchoninga
ironstove

Vote: ConManMick

Agree with the top bit, but one question: Why vote Mick if he's not your lowest tier?

Gamma Emerald
ConManMick

Pepchoninga
ironstove

???? why not vote ironstove and why did you vote mick instead?

Don't feel like leaving one vanity wagon for another at this point. No one else wants to vote Gamma or Ironstove, and I don't want 100 pages of PAGETOP!

Ah okay. For what it's worth, I'm cool with voting Ironstove (at the point that I'm reading currently).

Oh PeregrineV is town btw

I concur.

Townbloc is Alisae, Transcend, Peregrine, Gerryoat, and Peregrine.

Scumbloc is Ramcius, Manuel, ConManMick.

Some games you win by scumhunting.

Some games you win by Townhunting.

This game? I might be both.

I like the townbloc for the most part, but the scumbloc is wrong. I think at least 2 are in the inactives, and the rest are blending pretty well.

Holy shit, drealmerz is in this?

*ISOs*

That's a scum ISO from drealmerz. I've been playing a lot with him, and I'm calling it. He joins the scumbloc.

What's different about this drealmerz and the drealmerz in the game I modded?

Clum (Rem) town

Gerry Town

Con town

2 bad townreads but I will forgive u for voting iron

Those are actually good townreads but I am worried about the reasoning.


Only 7 to go. T_T

Here is another thing. You just said that Ram was a scumfuck the whole day 1 before you replaced him. That would mean that you agree behind the reasoning of people who SR Ram. Yet now you say that you agree with Peregrive's top town reads and well they include Ram. This seems like a minor contradiction, but it has big meaning to the fact that you should never just frame you predecessor, so you can try and look towny.

[Pepchoninga]

Transcend plays with me the most on and off this site. I think you should trust his read on me if you TR him

I play with Alisae off site and I can tell ya...this bitch still is almost unreadable to me day 1 lol.

That was before I came here

You are still the same ol' bote tho.

Smarter and more educated then I was months ago.

Good, so you passed your exams.

Also what do you think me? Have I gotten smarter and more edicated?

[Pepchoninga]

Clumsy is town.

Final answer, Regis.

I don't believe he's town, sorry.

[Pepchoninga]

{gerryoat!!!!}

xDDD, I know i'm triggering ppl doing this

{Transcend, PeregrineV}

{Alise, Pine, BigYoshiFan}

{Kuror0, Elena Fisher}

{Jaaack, Pepchoninga}

{Gamma Emerald, Lemon Tree, drealmerz7, PenguinPower}

{Clumsy, ConManMick}

{Manuel87}

{Ironstove}

Here!!!!

Explain Elena please.

Willing to vote Iron. Mostly a slot read after I looked back on indigo

k., but I think she's scum. Also, let's vote Clumsy please.

[Pepchoninga]

Not answering that question till post game.

You did kinda answer it bwfore tho. You said I'm still a newb. And I thought we're like bros...

[Pepchoninga]

Pep's last post was really good and a lot of people wanting to lynch him makes me go to paranoia city
VOTE: Iron
Let's make this wagon take off

I dislike this. Hopping back on a wagon that she was in before she voted me. Tho after seing that he push on me was weak and didn't get any attention and she knew she's not getting me lynched, she again hops on iron.

OPPORTUNISTIC AT ITS BEST

[Pepchoninga]

Clumsy's reads are bad but iron is worse. why wont you vote iron?

I kinda forgot about the dude honestly. Someone please present a case on him, so I can get edicated. Tho zi want to lynch one of my 2 top scumreads. Either Elena or Clumsy.

[Pepchoninga]

Never mind, I decided to not be lazy, and there was a VC more recently that I thought. This is 6 votes, L-4

Ironstove - Yoshi, Gerry, Clumsy, Transcend, Elena, Pine

VOTE: Ironstove

Flashwagon go go go

I don't know much about the iron wagon, and I'm lazy to read his ISO atm. Tho I highly belive it might be lynchbait. If so, there are at least 2 scum on it. I see my top 2 scumreads on it, so I'm not sold out on the iron wagon.

Also lets let the guy come back from his V/Ly at least.

[Pepchoninga]

Another thing I found interesting about Clumsy. (Won't be providing quotes, but if needed, will do.)

He asks Trans I think, why he think I'm lynchbait but not iron. This means he belives that iron is lynchbait. Yet a few posts late he VOTES iron.

Minor contradiction with BIG meaning.

[Pepchoninga]

Was that vigi shot legit? If not I don't like the fake vigi shot and the fake confirmation that the vigi shot was real.

Btw this is a fake reaction, he says this an hour plus after free the mod posted after the fake shot. It was a forced reaction to cast a dark cloud over it

Has everyone already posted ?

So far no scum reads yet.

Right here he says he has no scumreads and asking if everyone talked yet.

Was that vigi shot legit? If not I don't like the fake vigi shot and the fake confirmation that the vigi shot was real.

Suddenly he is very interested in a fake vig shot. If you look at the timing, you will see that he posted this 1 hour after the mod did the vote count, which means it was obviously fake at this time and he was trying to just cast a dark shadow over it.

If I was a vigi and I had 2 bullets and I was in a room with gerry, hitler, and stalin, I would shoot gerry twice.

Here he thinks he has something to push on, since others were talking about it as well, and tries to push on something that shouldnt give that strong of a scumread if he had no prior scumreads.

Was that vigi shot legit? If not I don't like the fake vigi shot and the fake confirmation that the vigi shot was real.

Btw this is a fake reaction, he says this an hour plus after free the mod posted after the fake shot. It was a forced reaction to cast a dark cloud over it

............ ? Serious?

lol VOTE: Gerry

after i question on it, he sounds like he is confused, and instead of engaging he just goes to vote.

Iron
^ scum

Hmmm, I see. It just seems like he is asking dumb questions and is being confused tho. I did get quite confused in this situation too. Anyways I can see why you SR him, but I can also see why he would be perfect lynchbait for scum.

Wanna see more to him, when he returns from his V/Lo.

[Pepchoninga]

I don't know much about the iron wagon, and I'm lazy to read his ISO atm. Tho I highly belive it might be lynchbait. If so, there are at least 2 scum on it. I see my top 2 scumreads on it, so I'm not sold out on the iron wagon.

You don't have a life and it's like 12 posts or something.
Go ISO it.

Fuck me, why are you so right...ok, gonna do that now.

[Pepchoninga]

Kinda disappointed we're escaping rvs and didn't get a large wagon from it. O well. Maybe next massive ass game.

Let's fix that

VOTE: Yoshi

If you're town vote for Yoshi.

If you're mafia, then don't.

Ughhhhh, ok, now I see. His RVS posting is lolfull. If he flips red, I'm SRing Yoshi.

[Pepchoninga]

If I was a vigi and I had 2 bullets and I was in a room with gerry, hitler, and stalin, I would shoot gerry twice.

I want this to be sarcasm, but it really bad nevertheless.

[Pepchoninga]

Ok, read it trough. He's been lolfull, but I'm not really seeing him as a BIG scum read. I still wanna lynch Elena or Clumsy more.

[Pepchoninga]

Funny thing is, you were actually right bote...he did really have 15 posts xD

[Pepchoninga]

Alright...Yeah, considering Pep's response to it, I think I might consider an ironstove wagon even more now.

At first Pep was like "Eh, I don't really wanna do it, he's probably lynchbait" which comes off as "eh, I don't really wanna bring attention to my scumbuddy."
Then I tell him to do it and he has no excuse.
And now he's like "Eh, he's scummy I guess but I rather lynch Clum and Elena more."
To me this comes across as he never really cared about Ironstove until he was forced to take a stance on it.
Yeah no.

I still belive iron could be lynchbait. His posts are bad, but I don't see the things I'm looking in a scum. His posts are too little, I don't see any tone changes, no inconsistencies, no contradictions. I just say that I can see why y'all vote for him. Tho my two main scumreads (both of wich I think I have better cases on then you have on iron) are on that wagon, so this is furthering my suspicion of iron being a big lynchbait.

Also don't paraphrase my words, I had like one sentence, so use it as it is. With the way you present my words, yeah it does kinda fit your point. But that's not the case.

[Pepchoninga]

Can't sleep. Work in 7 hours. Ugh. Gonna do some low effort required things, I'll still get to the big things tomorrow or sometime.

Here is another thing. You just said that Ram was a scumfuck the whole day 1 before you replaced him. That would mean that you agree behind the reasoning of people who SR Ram. Yet now you say that you agree with Peregrive's top town reads and well they include Ram. This seems like a minor contradiction, but it has big meaning to the fact that you should never just frame you predecessor, so you can try and look towny.

Bad phrasing on my part. I'm saying he's right about those reads. Sorry for confusion.

Another thing I found interesting about Clumsy. (Won't be providing quotes, but if needed, will do.)

He asks Trans I think, why he think I'm lynchbait but not iron. This means he belives that iron is lynchbait. Yet a few posts late he VOTES iron.

Minor contradiction with BIG meaning.

What makes you so sure that Pep is lynch bait, but Iron isn't? I'm not saying I disagree with you, but I want to know your reasons.

I'm asking that question to see what they think is different between the two. I even point out that I don't necessarily agree or disagree, I'm picking their brain. Nowhere did I say that I think Iron is lynchbait. If I thought someone was lynchbait, they wouldn't be on the bottom of my readlists. Don't misrep me.

Pep's last post was really good and a lot of people wanting to lynch him makes me go to paranoia city
VOTE: Iron
Let's make this wagon take off

I dislike this. Hopping back on a wagon that she was in before she voted me. Tho after seing that he push on me was weak and didn't get any attention and she knew she's not getting me lynched, she again hops on iron.

OPPORTUNISTIC AT ITS BEST

Might have a point here. I'll keep that in mind when rereading this slot.

Idc as long as he's not at L-1 where someone can lolhammer him.
I like everyone on the wagon except Clumsy, but that could easily change when he responds tomorrow.

Is that because of Ram, or because of me?

@Clumsy 1398 - Not quoting and snipping that long fucker of a post. Transcend is super obvTown. Shut up unless it is to scumhunt the other team or tell us yours.

Pine, how much can I trust you?

In this game? Entirely. This is me in Strahd. Transcend is my Andrius, Alisae is Sly, and regrettably, you replaced Dunnstral.

Clumsy is town.

Final answer, Regis.

WHAT. Disagree. Stop it. You were on board a bit ago.

Well the shut up was unnecessarily rude. Is your scumread a remnant of the slot, or do you take issue with the new occupant?

Yoshi

: Happy birthday. I hope you have a good one.

Hey Clumsy, when you get some time, could you give me your reasoning behind your reads on me, ironstove, ConManMick, and Manuel? Reading through your catch-up, I'm not satisfied with how you've explained these reads.

I will still do this in more detail at some point in the very near future. Short versions: I believe the Ironstove wagon is pretty explained by everything going on above, and that's pretty much the gist of mine too. Mick and Manuel have had a very rough start in this game, but I am confident in my townread of them for reasons I can't talk about right now. For you, it's a bit of an odd read because I agree with most of your reads, but I can't shake this feeling that you're hunting scum as a member of the opposite scum team. But I've never done a large game before, or even read one, so I'm kind of going on instinct for how all that works. The interaction between you and Alisae around 670ish really seems off for me, on your side.


Question for you, what is your progression from this:

But Yoshi you like how I'm pushing Pep yet you scumread me.
I mean, I understand this is multiball, but that's just weird.

Multiball is one reason.
Your uncharacteristic and poorly-evidenced defense of gerry is another.
This being early in the game (so my reads could all be wack and Pep could be town) is another.

Yoshi why do I feel like your read on me is complete bullshit?

Yoshi why do I feel like your read on me is complete bullshit?

I don't know, because you're scum and don't wanna believe it?

to this:

{Transcend, Gerryoat}

{Elena Fisher, Pine}

{Jaack, PV, Alisae}

{LemonTree, drealmerz7, Gamma Emerald, Ramcius/Clumsy}

{PenguinPower}

{Manuel87, kuror0}

{ConManMick, ironstove, Pepchoninga}

I stole your rainbow reads Transcend. XD

Putting Alisae above the null line? I didn't where a shift in your read came from, but it is 3 A.M. here and I should be asleep.

1. As much as I would like to se it as confusion, I can't sorry.
2. Well, I'm just saying how I read that post. You asked why does ztrans think I'm lynchbait and iron is not. This SHOULD mean that you think that iron is lynchbait too. I don't think this counts as a misrep.

[Pepchoninga]

Pep I think you're swimming up a river named Denial.

?

[Pepchoninga]

All my TRs want Ironstove...
Am I missing something?
Like he's on V/LA...

You're missing a vote on Iron. Townbloc gooooooo

Pep's last post was really good and a lot of people wanting to lynch him makes me go to paranoia city
VOTE: Iron
Let's make this wagon take off

I dislike this. Hopping back on a wagon that she was in before she voted me. Tho after seing that he push on me was weak and didn't get any attention and she knew she's not getting me lynched, she again hops on iron.

OPPORTUNISTIC AT ITS BEST

lolno

Revoting a wagon you were already on is the opposite of opportunistic. It's consistent.

@Clumsy1473 - What's up with wallposts I don't want to snip? Okay, the shut up was rude, but I tend to be a bit brusque with my SRs. It isn't your fault you inherited that slot. By yourself, I'd be objecting to your reads, which are mostly ridiculous, but wouldn't be hard SRing you. The problem is that you're failing to redeem a scummy slot.

Holy shit check out the whiteknighting that Pep is doing. Iron flips scum, we do Pep next.

No it's not considering the circumstances. His read on me was shit, he didn't get the attention he wanted, so he hoped in on the iron wagon apthat started getting speed. Keep in mind he got off the iron wagon in the first place in a similar scenarion.

How am I whiteknighting here? Your cases iron are not that good, sorry. You haven't given a thought about my cases for the Ram slot, nor the Elena slot. I've been actively scumhunting and keeping faith in my SRs. Most of you have been sheeping a wagon that is meh on a person that has 15 posts and is V/Lo.

[Pepchoninga]

My reads are fine, yours are wrong. At least some of them. Question for you: if Iron flips town, what do you think of Pep?

Probably scum working too hard for towncred.

Lolololo.

[Pepchoninga]

Pep, you are definitionally whiteknighting. Let me link to HOW IS THERE NO WIKI PAGE ON WHITE KNIGHTING.

I must learn how to Wiki in order to write one.

Explain it then.

But really how is me, who has 2 strong reads, and has actively pushed them and thinks that should be the wagon for today be whiteknighting a wagon he doesn't like? I understand this is multiball but please put some thought in al that.

[Pepchoninga]

Dudes, get this movie to the Oscars before they announce the nominations.

[Pepchoninga]

Ay Pep.
Did you know,
that I'm a Noivce 1-Shot Desperado.
You know what this means?
This means if you're town, I'm going to die.
And if you're scum, you are going to die.

Bombard: Pepchoninga

Why aren't you ded den o_O

[Pepchoninga]

Cuz it happens at the end of the day.

You for real? I know you like to fake things.

[Pepchoninga]

@Mod can I get a confirmation of the Alisae shot?

[Pepchoninga]

Seriously, Pep. You can still win by helping us eliminate the other team.

How about this. Considering thst Alisae shot is real at the end of the day I will be cleared. Unfortunately Alis is dumb and makes rushed decisions >.<

I will help you lynch Iron and tomorrow you will help me lynch Elena or the Ram slot.

[Pepchoninga]

Yes Pep, it's fake. Key word in that shot is the word Novice.
Someone that is a Novice can't use their abilities N1/D1

Well, I ain Scum unfortunately. Will give my reads later, since zi don't have enough time.

[Pepchoninga]

Yeah this is scum!Pep.
I feel like once scum!pep has been caught he just ignores the thread.
I feel like town!Pep would have rubbed it in my face some more.

I was eating ffs! >.<

Also yeah, faking your actions all the time just make you look more and more dumb. Scum pep doesn't do shit like thst, sorry.

[Pepchoninga]

Ay Pep.
Did you know,
that I'm a Noivce 1-Shot Desperado.
You know what this means?
This means if you're town, I'm going to die.
And if you're scum, you are going to die.

Bombard: Pepchoninga

Why aren't you ded den o_O

Pep Believing it

Cuz it happens at the end of the day.

You for real? I know you like to fake things.

AND NOW YOU'RE CALLING IT FAKE
LOLOLOLOLOL
BULLSHIT.

Have you heard of sarcasm? Something you like to use a lot? Yeah, this is that. If I was serious I would've used proper grammar. I asked about a mod confirmation since you were implying that it's real. I will admit the Novice part is new to me.

[Pepchoninga]

pep just casually agrees to lynching a player he doesn't even have a strong scum read on rather than pushing people to lynch his 'scum read' by playing like a scared and greedy scum and going for the obvious pocket attempt on who appears to be the most misguided town in the game so far.

LOOOOL. I just said that considering that Alisae's shot wasn't fake. I am town, so his shot would clear me. But it was fake I think I'm still gonna push for my lynches. I don't like how you've neglected some of the psots and read only the ones that you find to further your points.

[Pepchoninga]

Yeah, we know Pep is scum too. You're not contributing anything new.

I'm not scum. Tell me how my actions have indicated mebeing scum. Would love to hear it.

[Pepchoninga]

@Mod can I get a confirmation of the Alisae shot?

Nothing happened.

I am also looking for replacements for both PenguinPower and Lemon Tree (the latter seems to have siteflaked)

@ironstove: I am sorry about your name. It was a typo, I will fix it in all votecounts when I have some more time.

Thanks for the information.

[Pepchoninga]

Oh please I'm not doing this twice in a row at 5:30 in the morning.

Then don't read me wrong sucker go sleep, cuz your push has been terrible.

[Pepchoninga]

I like that we got a larger wagon but I only voted to see his reaction. I still think he's probably a mislynch, and I'd much rather.

VOTE: Mick

Why don't you vote Elena or the Ram slot with me? I have a good case on it.

[Pepchoninga]

Also Trans what do you make of the Pine and Alisae buddy teamwork.

And what do tou think about the 1000th fake claim Alis has done on this site?

[Pepchoninga]

I like that we got a larger wagon but I only voted to see his reaction. I still think he's probably a mislynch, and I'd much rather.

VOTE: Mick

This lynch isn't going to happen. Either Ironstove or someone else.

Who are you suggesting should be lynched then.

[Pepchoninga]

Uff I hated the ironstove wagon until I saw pepcho''s reaction. Now I'm significantly more in favor of it. I'm going to have to give iron more than a quick read before I vote there. I might prefer to lynch pepcho first tbh.

It was lots of pages ago, but I kinda had feels that elena and mock could have been partners because elena initial entrance was scum, but she towned up significantly.

What didn't you like about my reaction. Also what made you townread Elena in the end?

[Pepchoninga]

If iron flips maf, I might have been wrong about pep. too much whiteknighting when pep himself said that iron was scummy

You get me all wrong tho. I said he is scummy. Tho I think that my SR are scummier at the moment. I haven't read his latest posts (iron's), so my opinion might change. But the guy has been with a consistent tone and coule be just a townie with bad thoughts. This is what I'm presenting. The cases I made against Elena and the Ram slot have contradictions pointed out, scummy responces, inconsistencies and much more that I think are valid reason for there lynch.

[Pepchoninga]

Hai frog, you're at L-1 and I'm gonna hammer if you don't respond.

Why u always lyin'

[Pepchoninga]

Fro99er is a true hero and effectively replaces PenguinPower as of now.
Please give him a warm welcome!

Welcome dude ^^ hope you carch up quickly.

[Pepchoninga]

2. Well, I'm just saying how I read that post. You asked why does ztrans think I'm lynchbait and iron is not.

This SHOULD mean that you think that iron is lynchbait too. I don't think this counts as a misrep.

Uhmmmmm... whaaat?

What? Is there something wrong with my reasoning?

[Pepchoninga]

Kinda disappointed we're escaping rvs and didn't get a large wagon from it. O well. Maybe next massive ass game.

Let's fix that

VOTE: Yoshi

If you're town vote for Yoshi.

If you're mafia, then don't.

Ughhhhh, ok, now I see. His RVS posting is lolfull. If he flips red, I'm SRing Yoshi.

In the words of Alisae:

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT?

Don't worry, just a meme.

[Pepchoninga]

VOTE: clumsy

Been reading. This dude is scum

At the very least, clumsy and iron don't appear to be aligned (just ISO clumsy and you'll see what I mean)

FINALLY SOMEONE AKNOWLEDGES HOW SCUMMY THE DUDE IS.

[Pepchoninga]

Kinda disappointed we're escaping rvs and didn't get a large wagon from it. O well. Maybe next massive ass game.

Let's fix that

VOTE: Yoshi

If you're town vote for Yoshi.

If you're mafia, then don't.

Ughhhhh, ok, now I see. His RVS posting is lolfull. If he flips red, I'm SRing Yoshi.

In the words of Alisae:

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT?

Don't worry, just a meme.

Can I have an actual answer?

If a person flips red, it is common to look at his RVS posting and see his interactions for clues about his possible parthner. He only interacted with you, so here's that. But it wasn't overly serious since I did say how lolfull his RVS posting was.

[Pepchoninga]

2. Well, I'm just saying how I read that post. You asked why does ztrans think I'm lynchbait and iron is not.

This SHOULD mean that you think that iron is lynchbait too. I don't think this counts as a misrep.

Uhmmmmm... whaaat?

What? Is there something wrong with my reasoning?

Well, yeah, unless there's something I've missed. Just because a wagon is on someone doesn't immediately mean they're lynchbait, there's more to it. I don't get it.

You might of missed some context. I'm not saying iron is necessarily lynchbait. My argument revolved about a different thing.

[Pepchoninga]

While some of your reads are just plain wrong, why the hell is Ramicus on the town side of things? I don't think there's been anything there to warrant that, unless you just think that it's mislynch bait?

Scum reading your own slot?

Eeeewww.

Later on he says that he agree with a townread on his slot. A contradiction he said was just a missunderstanding.

[Pepchoninga]

Clumsy has a question of mine to respond to, and I think his answer will benefit us all when reading him.
*waits patiently*
I only have an hour before I leave for my b-day.

If you're gonna get drunk, please make one drunk Yoshi post.

[Pepchoninga]

I'm 16.

I'm almost 16 too. I have been drunk tho. Like 3 times. Xd

[Pepchoninga]

I can fake being drunk. XD

Don't belive it xD

[Pepchoninga]

I'm almost 16 too. I have been drunk tho. Like 3 times. Xd

<--------

Yeah, I'm a bad boy. 2 of the times were with my mom and sister and some other relatives +.+

[Pepchoninga]

Reads by group, town at top

Manuel87
Ramcius
gerryoat

Alisae
BigYoshiFan

drealmerz7
Transcend
Pine
Jaack
Elena Fisher

Indigo

kuror0
Lemon Tree
PenguinPower

Gamma Emerald
ConManMick

Pepchoninga
ironstove

Vote: ConManMick

Agree with the top bit, but one question: Why vote Mick if he's not your lowest tier?

Gamma Emerald
ConManMick

Pepchoninga
ironstove

???? why not vote ironstove and why did you vote mick instead?

Don't feel like leaving one vanity wagon for another at this point. No one else wants to vote Gamma or Ironstove, and I don't want 100 pages of PAGETOP!

Ah okay. For what it's worth, I'm cool with voting Ironstove (at the point that I'm reading currently).

Oh PeregrineV is town btw

I concur.

Townbloc is Alisae, Transcend, Peregrine, Gerryoat, and Peregrine.

Scumbloc is Ramcius, Manuel, ConManMick.

Some games you win by scumhunting.

Some games you win by Townhunting.

This game? I might be both.

I like the townbloc for the most part, but the scumbloc is wrong. I think at least 2 are in the inactives, and the rest are blending pretty well.

Holy shit, drealmerz is in this?

*ISOs*

That's a scum ISO from drealmerz. I've been playing a lot with him, and I'm calling it. He joins the scumbloc.

What's different about this drealmerz and the drealmerz in the game I modded?

Clum (Rem) town

Gerry Town

Con town

2 bad townreads but I will forgive u for voting iron

Those are actually good townreads but I am worried about the reasoning.


Only 7 to go. T_T

Here is another thing. You just said that Ram was a scumfuck the whole day 1 before you replaced him. That would mean that you agree behind the reasoning of people who SR Ram. Yet now you say that you agree with Peregrive's top town reads and well they include Ram. This seems like a minor contradiction, but it has big meaning to the fact that you should never just frame you predecessor, so you can try and look towny.

Here ya go fro, I think this would be enough. I think it's a little thing, that might just have great meaning.

[Pepchoninga]

Kinda disappointed we're escaping rvs and didn't get a large wagon from it. O well. Maybe next massive ass game.

Let's fix that

VOTE: Yoshi

If you're town vote for Yoshi.

If you're mafia, then don't.

Ughhhhh, ok, now I see. His RVS posting is lolfull. If he flips red, I'm SRing Yoshi.

In the words of Alisae:

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT?

Don't worry, just a meme.

No, it's not a meme. Your pre-flip association is shit.
Not to mention it forgets to consider fucking MULTIBALL

It is indeed a meme. Not only are you allowed to have memes.

[Pepchoninga]

[quote="In post 1621, PepchoningaHere ya go fro, I think this would be enough. I think it's a little thing, that might just have great meaning.

Thanks. That doesn't make me feel any better about clumsy. It's a pretty bad contradiction that's being painted as a "misunderstanding"[/quote]
Well I've had close interactions with both the players that were occupying the slot and have nothing to say about it. I really like thst you are not giving the guy a free pass like almost every other player.

[Pepchoninga]

VOTE: clumsy

Been reading. This dude is scum

At the very least, clumsy and iron don't appear to be aligned (just ISO clumsy and you'll see what I mean)

FINALLY SOMEONE AKNOWLEDGES HOW SCUMMY THE DUDE IS.

We've all been doing it...
We just haven't been voting there yet.

No you ain't. I've asked multiple times for you to get on his wagon, considering all the points I made against the slot and my request to at least look at our interactions were mostly ignored. You instead opted for fake claims and bad reaction tests.

[Pepchoninga]

I know right, he's absolutely disgusting.

The fact that all you've done this game is sheep isn't any less disgusting too. But I hate the Ram slot, so for now I think you are in the right direction.

[Pepchoninga]

THEN VOTE HIM ALL CAPS

JEEZ DONT WORRY, I WILL! LET ME REPLY TO ALL HE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE AND THEN I WILL!

[Pepchoninga]

Here, let me get chu some tea.
/me gets you some tea.
Frogs like tea?
I like tea.

Beer please.

Oh yeah, I like you even more now! All hail beer!

[Pepchoninga]

So if he's scummy and voting iron, why you voting iron? Pretty positive these two aren't aligned.

Wagon clumsy w me, k? Clumsy is far scummier than iron

Ding ding dong, finally a resonable person.

You know what, I was scumread for saying that.

[Pepchoninga]

Jesus fuck pep is so scummy too

Why am I scummy tho? I was on his wagon, but I developed another strong scimread and got on it. I will gladly hop back on Clumsy tho. I hate that slot.

[Pepchoninga]

Also I remember him saying that he didn't really want to push anyone at one time, which sorta looks bad.

pedit: I don't think he's scummy for voting iron, most of my TRs are also on it keep in mind and I hopped on after my reaction test with Pep cuz Pep was like "Ehh, I don't really wanna ISO them, and I think they're lynchbait" and then they say that they're scummy and to me that comes off as "Eh, I don't really wanna bring attention to my scum buddy"
What is your opinion on Mack + Pep.

Also yeah I'll wagon them with you
VOTE: Clumsy

Bad and wrong. I said that iron seem like he could be lynchbait since my 2 top scumreads were on his wagon. Also I hadn't seen much from the guy. Then I read his ISO and saw why y'all vote him. He is scummy. But not nearly as scummy as the Ram slot and Elena. So please.

[Pepchoninga]

Here, let me get chu some tea.
/me gets you some tea.
Frogs like tea?
I like tea.

Beer please.

Oh yeah, I like you even more now! All hail beer!

You're underaged.

I'm the ALL MIGHTY GOD OF GODS! So fuck it.

Also I'm a bad boy.

[Pepchoninga]

UNVOTE: Elena

VOTE: CLUMSY

[Pepchoninga]

Jesus fuck pep is so scummy too

Why am I scummy tho? I was on his wagon, but I developed another strong scimread and got on it. I will gladly hop back on Clumsy tho. I hate that slot.

Your reluctance to ISO iron at alise's request
Your "pushing" a vanity wagon on Elena without trying to drum up support for it
Your "I like you more now" about my beer comment" like you want to be pals
Your i hate clumsy slot while sitting there not voting the obv wagon with the pretense of "responding" to other posts

I ain't reluctant. I did it and didn't have anything against. I was just being lazy.
I did try to drum support about Elena. Just like me trying to drum up support for both Clumsy and before his Ramicius it was ignored.
I genuinely like you and have a strong TR on you since I like your wau of thinking and you have aknowledged the scumminess of my top SRs.
This really isn't an argument and I hope you understand it. I said I will vote the slot and I did. Wether I vote it now or after I respond to a couple of posts that for wich I already have an answer in my head shouldn't be relevant.

[Pepchoninga]

Also I remember him saying that he didn't really want to push anyone at one time, which sorta looks bad.

pedit: I don't think he's scummy for voting iron, most of my TRs are also on it keep in mind and I hopped on after my reaction test with Pep cuz Pep was like "Ehh, I don't really wanna ISO them, and I think they're lynchbait" and then they say that they're scummy and to me that comes off as "Eh, I don't really wanna bring attention to my scum buddy"
What is your opinion on Mack + Pep.

Also yeah I'll wagon them with you
VOTE: Clumsy

Bad and wrong. I said that iron seem like he could be lynchbait since my 2 top scumreads were on his wagon. Also I hadn't seen much from the guy. Then I read his ISO and saw why y'all vote him. He is scummy. But not nearly as scummy as the Ram slot and Elena. So please.

It's multiball. You're forgetting that your SRs could be genuinely catchign scum.

I'm not. I said that iron IS scummy. I'm not excluding the possibility of him being scum and my scumreads hunting him. But I find both Elena and Clumsy more scummy. Hence I think they are a better lynch day 1.

[Pepchoninga]

Also I remember him saying that he didn't really want to push anyone at one time, which sorta looks bad.

pedit: I don't think he's scummy for voting iron, most of my TRs are also on it keep in mind and I hopped on after my reaction test with Pep cuz Pep was like "Ehh, I don't really wanna ISO them, and I think they're lynchbait" and then they say that they're scummy and to me that comes off as "Eh, I don't really wanna bring attention to my scum buddy"
What is your opinion on Mack + Pep.

Also yeah I'll wagon them with you
VOTE: Clumsy

Bad and wrong. I said that iron seem like he could be lynchbait since my 2 top scumreads were on his wagon. Also I hadn't seen much from the guy. Then I read his ISO and saw why y'all vote him. He is scummy. But not nearly as scummy as the Ram slot and Elena. So please.

It's multiball. You're forgetting that your SRs could be genuinely catchign scum.

I'm not. I said that iron IS scummy. I'm not excluding the possibility of him being scum and my scumreads hunting him. But I find both Elena and Clumsy more scummy. Hence I think they are a better lynch day 1.

You know what Multiball even is, right?

Yes, I do. Your point?

[Pepchoninga]

Jesus fuck pep is so scummy too

Why am I scummy tho? I was on his wagon, but I developed another strong scimread and got on it. I will gladly hop back on Clumsy tho. I hate that slot.

Your reluctance to ISO iron at alise's request
Your "pushing" a vanity wagon on Elena without trying to drum up support for it
Your "I like you more now" about my beer comment" like you want to be pals
Your i hate clumsy slot while sitting there not voting the obv wagon with the pretense of "responding" to other posts

I ain't reluctant. I did it and didn't have anything against. I was just being lazy.
I did try to drum support about Elena. Just like me trying to drum up support for both Clumsy and before his Ramicius it was ignored.
I genuinely like you and have a strong TR on you since I like your wau of thinking and you have aknowledged the scumminess of my top SRs.
This really isn't an argument and I hope you understand it. I said I will vote the slot and I did. Wether I vote it now or after I respond to a couple of posts that for wich I already have an answer in my head shouldn't be relevant.

Whatever. I don't buy the lazy argument as you've been pretty active with your site-breaking walls

You're not in my good pile, but you're not as bad as obvscum Clumsy.

Sure. We have a common goal at hand. I want this slot dead. I also want Elena dead, but this is for day 2.

[Pepchoninga]

I like this Clumsy wagon a lot more than the iron one.

I still think iron+pepcho makes some sense, but I'm more confident in pepcho scum than iron scum so I'd rather lynch that first.

But yeah, let's lynch clumsy. Ramcius was scumlord and clumsy has been pretty blah, leaning scum.

Sooo I don't like this post. Basically he is saying this. I think Pep is more likely to be scum then iron. So let's lynch that first. But yeah, let's lynch clumsy. Cuz he is leaning scum. Uuuuu, no.

[Pepchoninga]

Pep's last post was really good and a lot of people wanting to lynch him makes me go to paranoia city
VOTE: Iron
Let's make this wagon take off

I dislike this. Hopping back on a wagon that she was in before she voted me. Tho after seing that he push on me was weak and didn't get any attention and she knew she's not getting me lynched, she again hops on iron.

OPPORTUNISTIC AT ITS BEST

??? Did you not see about 5 people saying "I'd vote Pep" if I wanted to stay on your wagon I could I don't know how you see this as opportunistic

Um no...people were saying this long after this. Pine was one of the little people that actually SR me at that time. You were the only player on my wagon and had shit reasons to be on it. You realized it and hopped on a wagon that was gaining speed. Explain to me how it isn't opportunistic.

[Pepchoninga]

Elena what do you make of the Clumsy wagon?

[Pepchoninga]

nah my posts are geniusly timed obv.town humor

duhhhhh

Sarcaaasm. Great...

[Pepchoninga]

wat...I don't get it...
I mean, I think obvscum Pep is on it, but I also think Jaack is scum that's on that wagon.

How am I obvscum tho? I contributed to the game a lot more then half of the players and put myself in the open too much? Do you think that's my scum game?

[Pepchoninga]

Savage. I will admit, you have good gifs.

[Pepchoninga]

Alright here you go Yoshi:

Make me a cool gif avatar too. I'm starting to get bored by Micky.

[Pepchoninga]

Round 1

FIGHT!

Iron wagon is scum motivated and clumsy' seas the grossest. Especially after listing iron as his top scumread several times before finally voting him with a half-assed sense of care of doing so

In what way was it the grossest? The fact that I had him scumread through most if not all of my catch up? How after I decided on reads for most of the (active) playlist, he was at the bottom so I voted him? How dare I hold my vote until I'm caught up to the present game.

While some of your reads are just plain wrong, why the hell is Ramicus on the town side of things? I don't think there's been anything there to warrant that, unless you just think that it's mislynch bait?

Scum reading your own slot?

Eeeewww.

I was asked to give my thoughts about my predescessor. There they are. They played horribly and put me in a horrible position to try to salvage this slot. I was expecting to get a red PM, and I was actually a little hoping for that, because I have more fun as Mafia. I was expecting that because I read a bit of the game before I got my PM, and based on how things were reading, I thought I would be picking up a scum PM. But if my honest thoughts are "wrong" to you, here's this.

My slot has played a perfectly good town game and no one should have scumread Ram at any point in the game. He obv towned so hard that everyone in the game simultaneously townread him, all the way until he replaced out. -rainbows-

Now, hopefully you can feel better about that and I can actual play a realist game. Slot played like shit before I got here. I'm not saying I'm stupendously better, but I'm trying to work with a bad situation as best I can. Yes, if I wasn't playing this slot and Ram was still playing it, I'd be fine with voting him, from an outside perspective.

What I have on you is mostly gut and what I pointed out that you (obviously noticed). It's a small read and very subject to change. Think null-null-scum

In other words...

"I put you in my scum list because I didn't have a reason so i'll make it up as "gut" and weasel my way out of my fake scum read on you"

Yeah no. Nice framework you got going on there though. It's a weak null-scum read. That's why it's between my null and null-scum tiers. How dare I express reads.

Trying to decide. No worries, that was a Townish response.

I hereby declare the founding of a Townbloc. Transcend, Alisae, Pine.

I don't get why Transcend is in this. What is your reasoning for Transcend being town at this point in the thread Pine? Also, is this still your version of this townbloc?


**snip wall**


Past post 1000, Transcend's posts are starting to look better.





{ConManMick, Manuel87}
{Jaack, Pine, GerryOat, PeregrineV}
{drealmerz7, kuror0, Gamma Emerald, PenguinPower, Lemon Tree, Transcend}
{Alisae}
{Pepchoninga, BigYoshiFan}
{ironstove}

(Some moved up from null, others moved up from null-scum, we're getting there though)
13 pages to go.

Oh hell no. Explain why transcends posts are better. This just looks like "fit in with the crowd"

If you can't see how Transcend's posts look better from this:

Spoiler: Before

Alisae let's make 500 posts d1 so that we have 1000 as a cumulative.

Yes! Shitposting galore!

The rules:

If you don't make 500 posts you get vigged

By me

I will not specify whether I'm a day vig or a night vig so your death will come at an unexpected time.

You don't i was scum

Unless you were scum

Then it's a draw

14 and 18 will maybe shitpost

Everyone else is srsbsns or i don't know them

It's pretty neat.

Only the classic episodes though.

The new renditions are a giant wtf.

Do you want to be the shaggy to my Scooby doo this game?

Aka we eat and shitpost and do nothing to solve the mystery and let some other lame-o solve it?

Okay now we need a Velma to solve the game

We need a Fred and Daphne to make out behind the scenes

And we need a Scrappy to get d1 policied

I nominate ConManMick for his impressive performance in Kids TV Show Mafia to be our Velma.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... ct[]=25190

Damn


http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... ct[]=25190

Forget it. Read ConManMick's iso. His performance was outstanding that game.

Tbh he solved the game in TWO (2) posts.

Alright Alisae with 20 posts each that puts us at 40 which completes 4% of our goal.

Vote: Alisae

Hogged all the Scooby Snacks.

FINALLY ANOTHER GAME WITH TRANSCEND. (i hope our distancing is good lol)

but really i havent read anything. i'm about to go to ihop. i'm still on vacation until the 11th now, just to let you know my activity will be spotty until then

what did you order

IF YOU DIDNT ORDER CHICKEN N WAFFLES IM SHOOTING YOU

I do not have cockies

I do have COOKIES THOUGH

have 12.

(::) (::) (::) (::) (::) (::) (::) (::) (::) (::) (::) (::)

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

ALL THE SHITPOSTING

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

SO HARD TO SCROLL THROUGHT HE GAMEAAA

see my shit posts are textual, not graphic

vc

STOP QUOTE PYRAMIDING THAT FUCKING VOTE COUNT

With love,

Transcend ♥

alright

you me and alisae we make 333 posts each today

actually we each need a third of a post to get to 1000 so consider this my third of a post

awww i was hoping you were kyouko

i like that dude

@pep sure, we can do 250 posts each.

Jinkies!`

it's hard to be in a game without me or gamma being in it

or dunnstral, but he's not here

Fucking stop tring me guys

I don't wanna get n1ed ;(

Trans it's moreso I think it's oppertunistic play moreso then wagon hopping.
Ironstove was getting votes, he goes to hop to that.
Then he places a vote on Pep felt like a really strange and awkward hop.
And then he gives you a vote for, what reason exactly?

I can't say anything for the first two votes but his vote on me was 100% a meme.

Tr gerry

i TR transcend even more for TR me

Did you have chicken n waffles at IHOP yesterday? Y/N

I was under the impression you weren't fond of me PP.

I'm glad I was wrong.

Hi

I said hi

I don't wanna read this anymore

I am the king

I am the king

Well I'm the God.

N

Hi

I'm matt

this is a substantial post with substantial content

rooby rooby rooooooo

closing credits come on

guys

do you trust me?

to this:

Spoiler: After

Ram:

Who is mafia

Gamma's game very different from what i saw him as a town, i don't like gerry play, Pep with his neutral stance and i don't feel him to try scumhunt, Alisae i still don't like, i was amazed how he told he don't remember my playstyle, when 2 days ago called me bullheaded for my aggressive playstyle in other game, also fake claim at start of game, Peregrine i see calling people scums, but no reasonings, no pushing, and very few posts in general, i know there are other people with little content, but i won't judge them till they post more

How long have you had these reads?

And how much do you rely on meta?

And I don't agree that Pep is neutral. He started off weird and awkward, I'll give you that, but now I feel he's proactively trying to solve the game and getting his hands really dirty.

What are your opinions on say, ConManMick and Manuel87?

Alright, more rainbows.

{gerryoat}

{BigYoshiFan, Indigo, Pepchoninga, Pine}

{drealmerz7, ironstove, kuror0, Ramcius}

{Gamma Emerald, Jaack, PeregrineV}

{Lemon Tree}

{Alisae, PenguinPower}

{ConManMick, Manuel87}

I want one of my reds to hang, and I want my orange and yellow reads to advance their thought processes a bit.

Jaack I know you gave a big reads list, but I put you as null because it looks like you're only focused on one slot (Ramcius) when there's 16 other slots, viewing your ISO. I want you to engage with others besides Ram.

PEDIT: I see no one post inflating anymore. That was definitely present in the beginning, but I think everything's simmered down at this point.

Why is Manuel genuine? What do you make of his entrance to the Pep vote he made?

That's getting bored. I'll stop at Page 10.

drealmerz7
Ramcius
Gamma Emerald
ConManMick

If you're not there and you posted between page 1 to 10, your posting is fine.

I don't agree with two of these, I can maybe see one of these, and I heavily agree with one of them.

I want you to finish reading the game, and expand on these reads a bit.

PP I know that you've read this game (at least some of it) and I know you didn't site flake. Can you key us in on what you thought?

Post inflating isn't alignment indicative imo.

I put all my thoughts in multiple consecutive posts because I say all I want to say at one point, then I think of something else and blah blah blah.

Oh I figured you fosed him since you put Pep in the pool of mafia when I asked you

Because Lemon was in the process of reading the game and Penguin said that he had read all the game. I didn't like Lemon's skim through, but I really didn't like Penguin offering nothing of substance having read the game.

As for Alisae I don't really like his tone, I don't like his voting patterns, I think his vote on Ramcius is more "who I can easily get lynched" rather than "who I think is scum".

Manny/Mick probably separate factions. I doubt they put two of their eggs on one obv town lynch.

Gerry is one of my heaviest reads in the game with substantial logic that you neglect to acknowledge.

Yes

Ram was objectively terrible

Does that equate to him being scum?

NO

Well Alisae

The Ramcius wagon has scum on it

That's fo sho.

Pine and Pep are town.

That leaves?.....

You and Jaack!

You might be on to something, but you're also possibly scum there.

The Mick lynch will be a thing and nothing is stopping that.

The following:
Alisae
BigYoshiFan
Gerryoat
Pepchoninga
PeregrineV
Pine
Ramciusslot

The following:
Drealmerz7
Elena Fisher
Gamma Emerald
Ironstove
Jaack
Kuror0
Lemon Tree
PenguinPower

The following:
ConManMick
Manuel87

Can anyone tell me what each of those lists represent?

People that are advancing well, and won't die today even if they are scum

People that need to advance more, or I'll want to have die

People who can die

then I don't think I can help you. Enjoy that wall btw. Now, after that point, there is still some shitposting in there, but the ratio isn't 9:1 shitposting to content anymore. It's closer to 1:1, which I'm guessing is normal for Transcend.

What's so town about the latter half of posts other than the ratio of non-shitposts to shitposts?

This is such a BS town read.

And you won't explain your iron read

Ummm, I find this forced and too good to be true.

[Pepchoninga]

wat...I don't get it...
I mean, I think obvscum Pep is on it, but I also think Jaack is scum that's on that wagon.

How am I obvscum tho? I contributed to the game a lot more then half of the players and put myself in the open too much? Do you think that's my scum game?

The Desperado Reaction test claims all the souls of poor, innocent Peps.

That reaction test was bad? Why? Because you did it out of all context. Also, my reaction was perfectly fine. I truly belived it and was calm about it. If it was real, you were a dead man. This would clear me and give weight to my opinion on the game. In turn we get a conftown. Was it a good option? Probably. Was it the best? Not.

[Pepchoninga]

Alright here you go Yoshi:

Make me a cool gif avatar too. I'm starting to get bored by Micky.

I don't make them lmao

Then find me something cool.

[Pepchoninga]

wat...I don't get it...
I mean, I think obvscum Pep is on it, but I also think Jaack is scum that's on that wagon.

How am I obvscum tho? I contributed to the game a lot more then half of the players and put myself in the open too much? Do you think that's my scum game?

Tell me about your scum game

If you've tead the thread in depth younwill see I'm a slow beginner. I'm more cautious about what I do as town, but when I get good suspects I will push them to the death when I know they are scum. I'm usually an active player, regardless of allingment, so if I'm not that active there probably is another reason..

As a scum I still have a slow start (I compensate with shitposting as both allingments) but I'm not that cautious. I'm more willing to sheep and even tho I still have active assaults against people they are not that overblown and are more directed to several persons as to one.

This is a brief overview that shouldn't be relevant in our situation.

[Pepchoninga]

{me}
{Trans, Pine, Frogger, Pere, Garry, Yoshi}
{Elena}
{Lemon, Manuel, Kuror0}
{Gamma, Iron, Drealmerz}
{Mick, Clum}
{Pep}

Why is Elena in your TRs?

[Pepchoninga]

Pep you only have one game completed on this site, no?

This is the case.

[Pepchoninga]

wat...I don't get it...
I mean, I think obvscum Pep is on it, but I also think Jaack is scum that's on that wagon.

How am I obvscum tho? I contributed to the game a lot more then half of the players and put myself in the open too much? Do you think that's my scum game?

The Desperado Reaction test claims all the souls of poor, innocent Peps.

That reaction test was bad? Why? Because you did it out of all context. Also, my reaction was perfectly fine. I truly belived it and was calm about it. If it was real, you were a dead man. This would clear me and give weight to my opinion on the game. In turn we get a conftown. Was it a good option? Probably. Was it the best? Not.

No the reaction was out of character for you.

How's that?

[Pepchoninga]

Also you legit ignored the thread after you saw it and I mentioned it was at the end of the day. Then you suddenly appear again and say that it's fake?
Yeah no.
You're scum.

Ummm, I was "ignoring" the thread for like an hour at best. I belive I can do that without being suspicious, right? Or I suspect that me having launch with my mom is scummy as fuck.

I did belive it, but I also have seen your fake claims enough times to not fully belive you. That's why I asked the mod. Knowing you, I belive my actions were the best I could've made in this situation. Now don't be a bitch about an hour and go get some actual arguments.

[Pepchoninga]

Also you legit ignored the thread after you saw it and I mentioned it was at the end of the day. Then you suddenly appear again and say that it's fake?
Yeah no.
You're scum.

Ummm, I was "ignoring" the thread for like an hour at best. I belive I can do that without being suspicious, right? Or I suspect that me having launch with my mom is scummy as fuck.

I did belive it, but I also have seen your fake claims enough times to not fully belive you. That's why I asked the mod. Knowing you, I belive my actions were the best I could've made in this situation. Now don't be a bitch about an hour and go get some actual arguments.

oh now you come up with an excuse! Nice!
You believe it, but you don't fully believe it? WTF child. It's either you do or you don't.

I didn't come with an excuse baby, I'm just a humanz being dat niids fuud. Like cmon, I don't live here. If you don't belive it don't. If you do, stop using it as your only shitty argument ~.~

[Pepchoninga]

My whole post got to nowhere >.<

Bad mod.

[Pepchoninga]

LOL THE MOD LOCKED THE THREAD JUST FOR IT

Greedy fucker.

[Pepchoninga]

wat...I don't get it...
I mean, I think obvscum Pep is on it, but I also think Jaack is scum that's on that wagon.

How am I obvscum tho? I contributed to the game a lot more then half of the players and put myself in the open too much? Do you think that's my scum game?

The Desperado Reaction test claims all the souls of poor, innocent Peps.

That reaction test was bad? Why? Because you did it out of all context. Also, my reaction was perfectly fine. I truly belived it and was calm about it. If it was real, you were a dead man. This would clear me and give weight to my opinion on the game. In turn we get a conftown. Was it a good option? Probably. Was it the best? Not.

No the reaction was out of character for you.

How's that?

The way you origonally responded to it seemed like you were giving up scum. tbh I expected you to rub it in my face a bit more that I killed myself to attempt to kill you.

I did rig it in you. But I also wasn't 100% sure that it's real. I didn't know the Novice part, I admit, but there was something fishy. Sk zi was working for the two sides of then scenario.

[Pepchoninga]

Also you legit ignored the thread after you saw it and I mentioned it was at the end of the day. Then you suddenly appear again and say that it's fake?
Yeah no.
You're scum.

Ummm, I was "ignoring" the thread for like an hour at best. I belive I can do that without being suspicious, right? Or I suspect that me having launch with my mom is scummy as fuck.

I did belive it, but I also have seen your fake claims enough times to not fully belive you. That's why I asked the mod. Knowing you, I belive my actions were the best I could've made in this situation. Now don't be a bitch about an hour and go get some actual arguments.

oh now you come up with an excuse! Nice!
You believe it, but you don't fully believe it? WTF child. It's either you do or you don't.

I didn't come with an excuse baby, I'm just a humanz being dat niids fuud. Like cmon, I don't live here. If you don't belive it don't. If you do, stop using it as your only shitty argument ~.~

So you decide to attack the excuse part instead of the 2nd part, which is a lot more important?
Ok.

I belive it fully. You didn't seem to do tho. This "excuse" was made back then too.

Like keep in mind I might vanish at some point, since school is ahead of me.

[Pepchoninga]

Ummm no. You are ripping my consistency but tunneling a wrong button.

I said one thing. I was split in half by your fake claim. On one side I got on the wiki and saw what the role did. Then I said to myself "what a dumb fuck". Then I said to myself "well he could be fake, not gonna be the first time" and this was why I took stances on both parts. I asked the mod for confirmation but I also took into consideration the fact that all of this might be true and this meant that we would have a confirm town.

Ain't inconsistencies you seeing, love, it you making them

[Pepchoninga]

Also Cabd, I saw the future. Are you proud of me?

Whi do you try and be friends with everybody but are a dick the person you've known for almost 4 years?

[Pepchoninga]

Pep you're actually starting to make sense now and I like it.

OMFG REALLY?! DID I START MAKING SENSE?!

OK SO NEXT TIME I WILL RITE THE SAME SHIT 10 TIMES!

[Pepchoninga]

Also Cabd, I saw the future. Are you proud of me?

Whi do you try and be friends with everybody but are a dick the person you've known for almost 4 years?

I knew you for 4 years!
Dam. 4 years of my life just go #wasted.
jk
I don't think it was 4, maybe 2. but no 4.

Yeah not 4. But at least 3. Like 2014 was the year. STILL WHY ARE NOT SO FRIENDLY WITH ME!

[Pepchoninga]

I think I might take a masterclass with Kain about playing with caps...

It's rather enjoyable.

[Pepchoninga]

If you've tead the thread in depth younwill see I'm a slow beginner. I'm more cautious about what I do as town, but when I get good suspects I will push them to the death when I know they are scum. I'm usually an active player, regardless of allingment, so if I'm not that active there probably is another reason..

As a scum I still have a slow start (I compensate with shitposting as both allingments) but I'm not that cautious. I'm more willing to sheep and even tho I still have active assaults against people they are not that overblown and are more directed to several persons as to one.

This is a brief overview that shouldn't be relevant in our situation.

Excuse me while I try to invent a way to wash off the scumminess of this post from my body...Grosssssssss........

Had to search for that post from one of my past games because thats exactly how i feel right now :O

Since there is to much resistence on gerry anyway might as well vote Pep again.
VOTE: Pepchoninga

May I borrow that qupte of your?

Read context dude ^^ I was asked about it. Gave a brief preview. You don't need to belive it, but it doesn't make it scummy either.

[Pepchoninga]

^I can't wait till this slot flips scum^
pedit: god dammit frogger you sniped me. This was meant to be below Clum's post.
pedit: Now pep sniped me. ffs.

Too slow, nigga <3

[Pepchoninga]

How a frogger catches scum:

Get me a gif for an avatar like now.

[Pepchoninga]

Clumsy you are going too much on the defensive. You are also trying to shift attention in a bad way.

What frogger is asking you to do, is what you should do if you are town.

[Pepchoninga]

Iron wagon is scum motivated and clumsy' seas the grossest. Especially after listing iron as his top scumread several times before finally voting him with a half-assed sense of care of doing so

Oh man, I wonder if that had to do with me playing catchup a little at a time, and not wanting to place a vote that affects the current gamestate while I'm reading the past gamestate. Just a thought though.

Just got off work, need to read the newest pages.

@Yoshi: thanks for the explanation. Clears that up for me.

explain your case on iron so it's not buried in spoiler tags.

Clumsy, you still haven't made your case on Iron as I requested.

Only using posts from before I joined the game, which is when you had your vote on him.

So you can't use resistance as your case.

150 posts ago and you won't endulge me with your case.

WHY DID YOU INITIALLY VOTE IRON ALL CAPS

THE CAPS THING IS MINE, DONT STEAL IT.

[Pepchoninga]

Hi I've read the past 10 pages

Ok i lied

This is gold.

[Pepchoninga]

Clumsy you are going too much on the defensive. You are also trying to shift attention in a bad way.

What frogger is asking you to do, is what you should do if you are town.

I'm going to echo this

What does that mean?

[Pepchoninga]

Here you go Pep

Why do you hate me so much xD

[Pepchoninga]

it means you posted a good post. Good job.

*inserts Mario voice here*

Yeheeee

[Pepchoninga]

FWIW I don't think his defensiveness is alignment indicative. I think his lack of having a real case on iron is.

Both contribute to one thing tho. Scum.

[Pepchoninga]

I look forward to your rainbow list Manuel.

pedit: You're isomorphic to Micky man. It characterizes you perfectly.

Ok...is this gonna be a meme now?

Also IM THE ALL MIGHTY GOD OF GODS, NOT JUST A MICKY MAN!

But I'll roll.

[Pepchoninga]

FWIW I don't think his defensiveness is alignment indicative. I think his lack of having a real case on iron is.

Both contribute to one thing tho. Scum.

GTFO with that. Come on dude. Defensiveness can contribute to town.

I agree, but when you are in a situation like he is, you shouldn't be committing to a defence ONLY. you aksed for a case and he didn't give it. Right now, he should be showing us why his scumreads are better then him by continuing his scumhunt.

[Pepchoninga]

Tha illuminati tho...

[Pepchoninga]

A wagon on Ironstove formed. I didnt like the wagon because of the ppl on it (mainly gerry). But his comeback into the thread was aweful. Instead of reading the thread to see why he is pushed he throws around random arguments. Yet after thes his wagon suddenly shifts to Clumsy.

So you didn't like the iron wagon because of the people on it but you're going to stick with the iron wagon that had your scum reads because a counter wagon formed???

This is bad analysis.

No i thought he could be scum because of his comeback tantrum. scum being on his wagon also doesnt necessarily mean he cant be scum (in the other scumteam).
And i am not on the Ironwagon. Pep has a way higher chance to flip scum for me and if he does Iron has a good chance to be his buddy.

Lol.

[Pepchoninga]

I'm copyrighting you for that, Tranc.

[Pepchoninga]

Go ahead, be useful, and stop voting your vanity wagon.

Or make a case why we should be voting Mick.

Mick has done little this game. Clumsy is the vote for today.

[Pepchoninga]

I'm fine with a clumsy lynch as well, I think Alise and clumsy are both mafia, but on different factions.

Vote clumsy then. Don't start shit wagons please.

[Pepchoninga]

Pagetop
Grrrr

Get recked.

[Pepchoninga]

I caught up, here's what I think so far:

mafia:

pine - http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p8726248
elena fisher - http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p8727384
transcend - http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p8727931
alise - http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p8725864, http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p8730331
clumsy - http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p8730311

town:

jack
conmanmick
kuror0
dream
PeregrineV
bigyoshifan
pepchoninga

null:

ramcius
gerryoat
fro99er
cabd

I'm acting out of pure memory here, but it seems like you are SR most that were on your wagon. Lol, this makes zero sense.

[Pepchoninga]

you basically scumread your whole wagon correct

Geez, didn't saw this when I made my post, but yeah, good that I wasn't the only one.

[Pepchoninga]

Hey Ironstove. I like how you call me out for voting you. It's cute considering it's
A. OMGUS
B. In that readlist I had you paired up with Pep.
C. I specificly mention voting you because of Pep.

Why did you townread him then what made you change your mind to voting him?

I townread him origonally with the mindset of him being lynchbait like Pep, but then Pep started whiteknighting him.

Whiteknighting no did I do. (bad yoda style)

[Pepchoninga]

THIS GUY. LOL

I KNOW RIGHT

THAT MAKES THREE OF US

[Pepchoninga]

@Alisae -- You thought pep WK'd his own buddy?

It was something Pine advertised and like many things Alisae desided to sheep that thought.

Also funny thing. Pine made a lot of fuss about how obvscum I am and he is gone.

[Pepchoninga]

Also one thing that has me concerned is that Pep is being SR'd by a lot of people. Maybe I'm just overthinking it tbh

Do you still think I'm obvscum?

Also why does that concirn you that much?

[Pepchoninga]

So why is that a White Knight?

It's like you know iron's alignment...

"I like to use buzzwords but not know what they mean or how they work"
explain how that's a slip please.

I never said it's a slip.

I said why do you think it's a WK? It makes no sense

Pep caught me. I basicly decided to sheep Pine's reasoning as well as provide my own. Pine thought it was a WK so I sheeped that, but I also added to it that Pep didn't really feel like bringing attention to Iron at first but then when he was forced to he was like "ehh, he's scummy but not as scummy as my other scumreads" which honestly might be a perfectly normal reaction.

Honestly I'm starting to get more townvibes from Pep...

Finally dude. Haven't played with Titus (I saw people comparing you to her), but you really like to tunnel.

I don't like Pine either.

[Pepchoninga]

So why is that a White Knight?

It's like you know iron's alignment...

"I like to use buzzwords but not know what they mean or how they work"
explain how that's a slip please.

I never said it's a slip.

I said why do you think it's a WK? It makes no sense

Pep caught me. I basicly decided to sheep Pine's reasoning as well as provide my own. Pine thought it was a WK so I sheeped that, but I also added to it that Pep didn't really feel like bringing attention to Iron at first but then when he was forced to he was like "ehh, he's scummy but not as scummy as my other scumreads" which honestly might be a perfectly normal reaction.

Honestly I'm starting to get more townvibes from Pep...

You realize that Pine said Pep is scum no matter what Iron flips right?

Wich is the worst thing he has said lol. A contradiction and all of this basically makes his push on iron painfully bad if he thinks I'm scum regardless.

[Pepchoninga]

VOTE: Jaack
Cho Cho motherfuckers.

I understand it's for pressure, but Clumsy is the lynch for today.

[Pepchoninga]

Oh yeah I forgot about that AtE...

Clum has had enough pressure on him for a bit. And we can jump back to him for a bit. Right now I want pressure on the Jaack slot.
Vote him or defend him.

Frogger I'm not against a Clum lynch, it's just the Jaack slot is in a REALLY good position right now. Like they're mostly been unpressured throughout most of the game. So I want to put it in a state of volunerability, ya get me?

I kinda agree on that. Seems like a thing that town would like to do. But trowing votes like that is unnecessary. Vote the player you think is scum. You can start an interaction and pressure someone without votes too.

[Pepchoninga]

legit think alise and clum are scum tho, please vote either one.

@pep you said my alise vote is shit. is this because you strongly tr alise?

No, because it was shit. You had nothing agaisnt him at the time.

[Pepchoninga]

BITCHES

pedit: vote: alisae

This hurts too much.

[Pepchoninga]

You're calling me hopping off a Clum wagon resisting it even tho I'm okay with a lynch on it, just want to pressure a really unpressured slot before hopping back on?
Yeah no, shut the fuck up.

Ok fuck you. You're just posturing to be on any fucking wagon you want.

"I'm crying scum not getting the lynch they want, look at me cry."
You're still not answering the question of why you are so against a Jaack wagon.

Please don't make post like these. They can just really irritate some people.

[Pepchoninga]

Trans I really wanted to TR Froggy, but fruit for thought:
Froggy is on the other scumteam trying to push for Clum's lynch who they genuinely believe is scum.

I know this is not directed to me, but this is wrong. Frogger is town. Period.

[Pepchoninga]

mafia is as much about figuring out the game by clues as it is about controlling your emotions and not letting players get to you.

I want you to tell this to Frozen Angel.

[Pepchoninga]

Huh you think I'm tunneling?
Alright, I'll step back then.
It's just I really want to pressure that slot.
What is your opinion about the Jaack slot?

You do like tunneling meaningless thing.

[Pepchoninga]

UNVOTE:

Iron, who else is your scum read besides Alisae and Trans? Did I miss a read of yours on Clumsy?

Why did you unvote?

[Pepchoninga]

Trans I really wanted to TR Froggy, but fruit for thought:
Froggy is on the other scumteam trying to push for Clum's lynch who they genuinely believe is scum.

I know this is not directed to me, but this is wrong. Frogger is town. Period.

Huh...But it's multiball...How?

How could frogger be town in a multiball...hmmmmmmmmm.

[Pepchoninga]

You took my page top, fucking savage.

[Pepchoninga]

Yea, I'm fine with a pine lynch as well, anyone in my scum pool can die today because I don't think they've helped me figure out the game and I don't read them as strong town players based on their play so far.

VOTE: Pine

Keep in mind the guy votes people others say are scummy, but even tho he pressured Alis like fuck, he isn't voting him. Later he switches his vote to Clumsy if I'm not mistaken.

[Pepchoninga]

im masons with pine

ok not really but dont lynch pine i want him around

I don't like the constant shitpost in a middle of a conversation, but you are a hilarious dude. You're orobably great complany IRL too.

[Pepchoninga]

Iron, let me ask you again, how do I know you aren't confbiasing me?

HOW DO I EVEN ANSWER THIS QUESTION? HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW? WHY ARE YOU EVEN ASKING ME THIS QUESTION? WHAT IS THIS STUPID QUESTION? I THOUGHT THIS WAS A RHETORICAL QUESTION AND IT DIDN'T NEED AN ANSWER BUT YOU KEEP QUOTING IT LIKE I AM SUPPOSED TO ANSWER IT SOMEHOW WHY DO YOU KEEP ASKING ME THIS?

ALL CAPS

ALL CAPS RELIGION!

[Pepchoninga]

Rainbow Reads:

drealmerz7, PeregrineV, Transcend

Clumsy

Ramcius

, ConManMick

kuror0

Alisae, Cabd

Lemon Tree

Elena Fisher

Indigo

, BigYoshiFan

Fro99er

PenguinPower

, Jaack, ironstove

Gamma Emerald

Pine, Pepchoninga, gerryoat

drealmerz: Already mentioned this but him getting annoyed by the earlygame spam felt genuine and is towny. Would like to see more from him but i agree with what he said when he posted after some time. Town is not in control of this game.
PeregrinV: As for drealmerz i would like to see more from him but i like his reads. The early scumreads were close to what i had and later his readslist was also close to mine. Mick and gerry need to change in his reads though.
Transcend: Hard to read but i think he is town. Similar playstyle to my first game with him. This might either change drastically or get locked with the first flip of the game.
Clumsy: Ram felt town to me in his exchange with Pep and him replacing out like he did is something i dont see scum doing. Frustrated town replacing i dont like outside influence but it happened and i think the people trying to paint this as NAI are scummy as fuck.
ConManMick: cant really explain that read lets call it gut for now. I dont see anything that pings me scummy in his Iso.
kuror0: Not much but he was the first to call out gerry for his constant "i am town" spam and reacted good to his childish provocation. Would like to see a readslist from him
Alisae: Not sure about this slot. Probably should be a bit higher but i didnt like how much he defended gerry. Gerrys flip would probably tell us a lot about his alignment.
Cabd: Not much from him so far. Didnt exactly wow me with his entrance. I generally think its really easy to look towny when replacing into a day 1 slot that had no reads on it. His entrance was just to weak to be able to do that though. Need to figure out if the lack of enthusiasm is AI or NAI.
Elena Fischer: Good point about Ram replacing out being towny. Dont know why she would tr gerry when he literally said vote who i want or ill scumread you. I wonder why she never mentioned anything about me again after she said she is going to Iso me.
BigYoshiFan: Simply based on his reads he can be town with some bad reads. Or scum that has good reads on the opposing team. I dont know why he suddenly voted Clumsy when he was Null in his readslist. Probably should be lower but there are to many scummy ppl.
Fro99er: came in and deflected the Ironwagon. I wasnt to fond of th wagon but Irons comeback was aweful and i started to consider voting him. Pushed hard on Clumsy from the start. Should probably be lower in my reads might change it next time.
Jaack: Nothing that made me think he is town so far. Could be in a scumteam with Pep and Iron.
Ironstove: Ill give him that he had the best post in the game so far (it was about a vigi with 2 bullets). Like i said i didnt like his wagon but his comeback was just awefull. Instead of reading up why he had so many cotes he threw around random accusations.
Gamma Emerald: Already explained that read nothing changed maybe some others should be lower then him because my only reasoning for him being scum is meta and i usually dont like to read someone only on meta but still I agree with what Alisae said about town!Gamma not shitposting so much early game. Not sure if i would vote him if he doesnt get some content but if he is town he really should start playing this game.
Pine: One of the leading forces on the Clumsy wagon. The worst reads in the game so far and i dont see a townplayer that bad so the only explanation is he is scum.
Pepchoninga: Looked a little better some time ago but his constant push on Clumsy and wishywashy answers for reads on other players are really bad. The post i quoted when i gave my vote was probably the scummiest shit i have seen in this thread so far.
gerryoat: scum


Funny enough all 3 of my scumreads immediatly tried to deflect the townread on the Ramslot for subbing out.

HOW IS PINE THE LEADING FORCE ON THE CLUMSY WAGON WTF! I can agree with the other stuff, but this is just awful.
Also your reads on Clumsy and Elena are LOL.
Your read on me is kinda funny too.

Overall bad reads.

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Pep, why is Frogger town period.
You make it seem like he's conf town lmao.

No, but he is one of my stronger TR atm. I saw some suspicion in you about that and I want to change it.

He gets a plus for his way of thinking. I find a lot of stepping ooints in his game, great progression, saw the player that in my eyes is just confscum, has asked good question and his reaction to the argument with you is very towny.

He is one of those player that I just have no reason to doubth atm.

[Pepchoninga]

COME ON PEOPLE LETS GET TO 100 POSTS DAY ONE WOHOOOOOO!

ALL CAPS

[Pepchoninga]

uh huh...This is awkward...Um...Yeah...

What is awkward?

[Pepchoninga]

by 100 pages we probs still wouldn't have decided on a lynch
pedit: cuz I think you slipped that your masons? Idunno maybe I'm tonereading it a bit too much.

We aren't masons. I'm just really comfortable in my read on him.

[Pepchoninga]

Yeah probs just toneread a bit too much into that. I just find it strange how you quickly jump on me on the thought that he could be scum.

Not jumping at you either. I though you towread him too. It seemed strange that you were now having this as a posibility. Hence I commented on it.

[Pepchoninga]

It's all

[Pepchoninga]

Good..

MY PAGETOP

[Pepchoninga]

Fuck...nevermind, continue.

[Pepchoninga]

I wanna be satisfied too.

[Pepchoninga]

Here, I'm satisfied now.

[Pepchoninga]

wat...I don't get it...
I mean, I think obvscum Pep is on it, but I also think Jaack is scum that's on that wagon.

How am I obvscum tho? I contributed to the game a lot more then half of the players and put myself in the open too much? Do you think that's my scum game?

The Desperado Reaction test claims all the souls of poor, innocent Peps.

That reaction test was bad? Why? Because you did it out of all context. Also, my reaction was perfectly fine. I truly belived it and was calm about it. If it was real, you were a dead man. This would clear me and give weight to my opinion on the game. In turn we get a conftown. Was it a good option? Probably. Was it the best? Not.

So, you were aware of your reaction as you responded? Also, I get the feeling from this that you knew it was fake. This is probably bad wording on my part, but I don't like this.

Read on, this was already explained. Alisae tunneling kinda prevented both me and him to reaching a consensus.

[Pepchoninga]

But I also wasn't 100% sure that it's real.

I belive it fully.

Uhhhh, are these both talking about Alisae's fake desperado?

You should read the context, but there is a possibility.

[Pepchoninga]

Ummm no. You are ripping my consistency but tunneling a wrong button.

I said one thing. I was split in half by your fake claim. On one side I got on the wiki and saw what the role did. Then I said to myself "what a dumb fuck". Then I said to myself "well he could be fake, not gonna be the first time" and this was why I took stances on both parts. I asked the mod for confirmation but I also took into consideration the fact that all of this might be true and this meant that we would have a confirm town.

Ain't inconsistencies you seeing, love, it you making them

Uhmmm, you clear it up here, but in 1810 and 1811, you don't mention this. That makes it confusing.

Alisae made it confusing for me to really explain it.