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Sounds a lot like me. Unfortunately, my team was more focused on getting specificIn post 27, Zar wrote:he couldn't stop talking about how much he loves being scum and all these evil mustache twirling plans he had in mind for future scum games, so...
While I need to debate this to be sure, I'd massively, MASSIVELY prefer One.In post 40, T S O wrote:Choosing between One and Two seems to be kinda irrelevant to me, honestly, but I'd prefer Two to One.
Not the town-UT *I* knew.In post 57, T S O wrote:Actually, UT's anger does feel a little off, given that the only catalyst for it was someone disagreeing with him. I guess it's possible that UT has extreme anger issues, but it doesn't seem particularly likely.
How about that Choice 2, while not confirming players from the word of the mod, can still confirm players through word of the player, while making said protection stronger, meaning town potentially lives longer?In post 141, DeasVail wrote:I've thought about it and I really believe that Choice 1 is better. I think it has great potential to confirm people as town where Choice 2 wouldn't. I'm happy to consider arguments for Choice 2 in the meantime though.
My team's quite active! Just not on what I need at the moment.In post 229, Tammy wrote:Because you're not actually discussing the game.
Tough. All you're getting is that Baning me is a Very Bad Idea (TM). I have very good reason for this.In post 255, Shadoweh wrote:I still want to powerbane Mastin and am looking forward to walls about it!
Weekend V/LA, work, plus dealing with rl affairs. (Schedule conflict. Nasty.)In post 262, Titus wrote:Kinda surprised Mastina is not here yet.
Seriously, don't make me emphasize this more. I'm already a dead woman walking; don't speed it up.In post 270, Titus wrote:What do you think of baning Mastina?
Probably has scum involved. 1 or 2 makes the difference in my other reads, though. And not really stating an opinion on which of the three scum combos I think is most likely. I don't think it's townVtown is all.In post 306, GuyInFreezer wrote:So what do YOU think of Zar/Tammy interaction? TvT? TvS? Scum theatre?
FFS, you have NO clue how much this argument ticks me off.In post 331, Titus wrote:I really don't like Mastina lurking.
It was basically far, FAR more important to get the right games than the right alignment as far as I was concerned. Getting into THIS game was my request, because I've been playing extensively in Large Themes. As town, I typically either die early (this game, duh), or live long enough to give the scum a beating. I also figured that if I got scum, it would be a goldmine. I had my strategy all laid out. I had everything planned out. I didn't tell my team what it was in the off chance I got town (because I was feeling scum, justIn [url=/forum/viewtopic.php?p=6722310#p6722310]post 341[/url], Bulbazak wrote:I wouldn't put it past her to WIFOM everyone by not spending tokens on herself.
By pretending he's me.In post 352, Titus wrote:@Bulba, how can you townread someone who has not posted?
I have words to say on this.In post 376, DeasVail wrote:Bulb, if you're town then I appreciate the advice, but I currently think you're scum for a number of reasons, not limited to you telling me what to do.
Quite the opposite. Deadwoman by SCUM hands.In post 382, Shadoweh wrote:even Mastin thinks we should lynch Mastin!
Two gives double the protection on a person, extending the life of a successful protect.In post 384, DeasVail wrote:I don't get what you mean here, so if you could explain in simple terms it would be much appreciated. I do also have a more detailed posts explaining my preference of choice.
TammyIn post 391, Shadoweh wrote:You think Zar/Tammy is possible scum on scum? :V
In post 401, Shadoweh wrote:Do you have any reasons to suspect this based on reality rather then FUD paranoia?In post 398, mastin2 wrote:TammyIn post 391, Shadoweh wrote:You think Zar/Tammy is possible scum on scum? :Vshouldbe the first person to tell you I'd be a foolnotto consider it.
(This is why you DON'T leave things like this in hammering range, PARTICULARLY when I haven't been around to read, because no, when I cast my vote, I do NOT check to see.In post 417, hitogoroshi wrote:TheChoicehas been made. The effect of protection is to prevent one kill on the target and to inform the target if a kill on them is prevented this way.
Vezok is ridiculously easy to read; he's town.In post 406, ChannelDelibird wrote:CES argues that we should use the Bane on a player who is hard to read (vezok is his example).
This is very, very sheepable.In post 420, fferyllt wrote:TOWN
Tammy
Deasvail
GiF
Titus
MAYBE TOWN
Marquis. - I don't like the stuff Deas likes. Will ultimately probably defer to GiF
Actiondan. - possibility of scum theater maybe, but otherwise leaning a little town. have a question in to my team about the interaction with UT
T S O - not having a strong read on him is concerning me a little
Gammagooey. - will be soliciting from my team to clarify this read
ChannelDelibird.
Cheetory6.
Mastin2. - this will be a nacho-read probs. Leaning slight town on my own.
Shadoweh. - want input from my team
NOT SO TOWN
Bulbazak.
UT
Vezok
Zar. - here for now because Tammy/Empire.
WHERE THE HELL ARE YOU?
Antihero.
Aronis.
Espeonage.
Grey should totally swap into this game just so that he and I can synch up without having to go through a filter.In post 486, Shadoweh wrote:CeeDeeBee, GreyICE is challenging you on CES saying vezok is hard to read. He says vezok is easycake biscuits to read and wants to know why your team is saying otherwise. I generally agree with this, vezok is pretty straightforward.
Esp is scum regardless of what his alignment is.In post 960, Espeonage wrote:I honestly don't trust anyone enough right now to give them Boon.
Back pathetically long ago (by which, I mean, in the first 20 pages), my group (myself included) shared this sentiment, though in my case the emphasis was on DV.In post 1416, fferyllt wrote:Nacho thought the interactions between DV and Marquis felt off.
In post 1428, hitogoroshi wrote:(6)TellTaleHeart:Titus, Empire, Tammy, Aronis, Marquis, vezokpiraka [L-4]
(1)Bulbazak:Gammagooey
(1)GuyInFreezer:ChannelDelibird
(1)Tammy:Espeonage
(1)Aronis:Bulbazak
(0)Gammagooey:(Bulbazak)
Okay. Could be wrong. But IIn post 1433, Aronis wrote:I'm not willing to disclose my read on Bulba at this time to it not being that strong and I want to be able to keep a close eye on his behavior for a while longer before being 100% sure.
IsIn post 1466, Shadoweh wrote:Simply put, DV is on my team's list of expected nightkills, so detecting him is suspicious.
True he doesn't like it.In post 1498, vezokpiraka wrote:He was scun and doesn't like playing scum.
Not gonna support that, either, since I remember GI's reads lining up nicely with my own early-on. I want to keep Shadow around for the time being to see more of that.
Not disagreeing.In post 1514, TellTaleHeart wrote:The ambivalence in the read itself and the failure to pursue any other leads while soft supporting the wagon under the banner of "vezok got results" is a position I think scum are more likely to take.
Well I'm not saying they're gonna be great, given they were made almost entirely off of four pages of content with vague memories of earlygame thrown in, but they feel fairly good to me, so while we can talk, probs just gonna go with my flow. (Unless my teammates yell at me that I'm being stupid.In post 1517, Titus wrote:We need to talk on some of those reads Mastina.
Sure thing!In post 1525, Gammagooey wrote:you do realize that scum will have been detecting their likely nightkill targets if they want to not have 3 different actions all spent on killing a single person right?
Pure gut. Nothing there but ~feels~ of not being scum, just probably not pushing in the right spots.In post 1535, Bulbazak wrote:Mastin: Talk to me about Gamma.
There was nothing for me to say about it.In post 1539, Titus wrote:Can you please hit 1534??
It's a gift.In post 1544, DeasVail wrote:I'd also like mastin to explain her strong reaction to the reasons for the TTH wagon considering her lack of engagement with the game. You're acting like someone who has a strong handle on the game and is very confident that her views > everyone else's in 1505, yet this sentiment is not shared by other posts.
^In post 1538, mastin2 wrote:Pure gut. Nothing there but ~feels~ of not being scum, just probably not pushing in the right spots.In post 1535, Bulbazak wrote:Mastin: Talk to me about Gamma.
(BTW, tried this via iso. Dan and GIF gave me nothing. TSO I think can give something, but I skimmed too much so gave me nothing, either. Haven't bothered with Titus or UT, but needless to say, I'm not getting reads on 'em any time soon.)In post 1513, mastin2 wrote:Leaves ActionDan, GIF, Titus, TSO, and UT to sort.
Uhh. Titus?In post 1553, Titus wrote:My team wants me to sheep this, not that they've seen this comment specifically, but they told me to find a player whose reads you generally agree with. Vote their gut read and see what the hell happens and not to do too much forcing (but for town reads).In post 1552, mastin2 wrote:^In post 1538, mastin2 wrote:Pure gut. Nothing there but ~feels~ of not being scum, just probably not pushing in the right spots.In post 1535, Bulbazak wrote:Mastin: Talk to me about Gamma.
So yes, this logically sucks, but I'm doing this because, go team!
VOTE: Gamma
Then you should have the same feels about Esp as you did about Toon!In post 1596, Bulbazak wrote:I have the same feelings regarding the TTH wagon as I did with the Shos wagon in Unbalanced 2. It's a bad lynch.
Hey, worked in Drawn on Arrival! (Admittedly every time I get arrogant andIn post 1630, Cheetory6 wrote:I don't want to just sheep mastin [though I'm honestly kind of feeling tempted to]. q.q
No, I think that wagon has one or two scum on it and no more. I'd need to check the names on it to be sure, though.In post 1625, Cheetory6 wrote:@mastin, you think that scum was trying for a quicklynch here?
Because calling someone scum after they replace out including thinking their replace-out post was scumposting is a horrible, horrible thing and yet here I am?In post 1629, singersigner wrote:1. Why do you feel horrible for voicing your opinions/reads?
On the contrary. You gave plenty of content. It just all screamed scum to me. (Also, tangent, but I got a read on things in four pages.)I don't really have any content to contribute right now with what little I've read and how far behind I am.
Oh, there's certainly more to your posts than you think there is.If you'd like to read more into my posts than there is, I suppose that's your prerogative.
On the contrary, the one, and ONLY discussion I shut down is talks of lynching TTH. (For good reason.) Other than that, I've actually done more in 48 hours for opening talks up than the rest of the playerlist.I need to interact with people to figure out the game and I don't see you positioning yourself in a way I can do that with you having shut down that flow of communication before it even started.
Well, my reasoning basically goes like this:In post 1636, Bulbazak wrote:Let's just be more specific here Mastin. The not town content coming from Singer is her attempt to try to limp wristedly push the TTH wagon back into the spotlight based on "information". As I've said, the TTH wagon was a clusterf-, and using it for information will probably lead to more mislynches if scum are pushing that angle. I could see Singer trying to promote lynching those nervous about the speed of the wagon, rather than those on the wagon pushing for crap reasons. Besides, if she really wanted to lynch someone based on interaction and who would give the most information, she'd be angling for my lynch.
Then talk to me. My reads have been posted. singer's stronger scum than ever before. Other updates I'll mention as they happen (my read on DV continues to degrade for instance), so it's really on your end.In post 1638, fferyllt wrote:Mastin, usually you and I don't do a lot of direct interaction in games. I think the rest of this game day could benefit by being an exception.
A player voting TTH holds no respect saying this to me, vezok.In post 1651, vezokpiraka wrote:Can you please understand for the love of all that is holy that Empire is town and your gut is broken?
(Says the person who just said vezok could be scum. And witnessed me nail basically every anti-town in Drawn on Arrival save for one who died via NK during the night that was null. I do do derping, but no matter how much derping I do, and no matter how mediocre my play, I am not myself a derp.)In post 1682, Untrod Tripod wrote:mastin is a derp, but what's new.
Yeah, two scum max.In post 1753, Bulbazak wrote:(7)TellTaleHeart:Titus,Empire,Tammy,Aronis, Marquis,vezokpiraka, Cheetory6[L-3](ChannelDelibrd)
This, incidentally, is the strongest proof I have that my reads aren't perfect. Gamma's a townread, Shadow's getting a pass, Cheet looks town enough, I'm not interested in pursuing Titus, so really that leaves GIF, Aronis (who was a townread but I admit Bulba's sparked my interest in) and TSO for there to be scum aside from DV.In post 1765, Bulbazak wrote:(10)Bulbazak:DeasVail, Gammagooey, Shadoweh, Cheetory6, Titus,vezokpiraka, GuyInFreezer, Aronis,Tammy, T S O
Also, the following people tried to cast bane votes on me after the hammer: CDB, UT
I'm gonna be "that guy". (Well, girl. But the expression is 'that guy', so let's assume it's *generic* 'guy', rather than gendered 'guy', i.e. "hey guys" to a group of mixed genders.)In post 1833, DeasVail wrote:[ActionDan, Aronis, Bulbazak, GiF, Mastin2, Shadoweh]
Like.In post 1834, Shadoweh wrote:Town: Titus, Tammy, Deevees, vezok, TSO
Hey, singer.In post 1872, singersigner wrote:AS SCUM, you're trying to trick the town, or throw shit around, or blend in, or make enough noise that people get distracted, or whatever scum-playing tactic one might have, right?
No duh, and Nacho owes me BIG time.In post 1884, Tammy wrote:are you guys reading mastin as town?
I'll give you Titus. I like what I'm seeing muchly. So too can I give you Tammy; I not only trust you there, but agree.In post 1917, fferyllt wrote:Titus and DV are god tier town to us atm. So is Tammy.
Bulba-pass has been upgraded to full-on Bulba townread. What he's doing is just town. Shadow I'm not touching because of GreyICE mainly I admit.Why are you not touching Shadoweh? Why are you giving Bulba a pass?
Singer is scum. UT *might* be, but probably isn't.What are your thoughts about the UT/Singer interactions?