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^I was just gonna ask that. Cheet said something similar in my team's PT, but it sounds gut based.
Also, it looks like this game is moving at a slow enough pace for the effects of my V/LA to be pretty minimal here. So there's that.-
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I feel like he's taking easy stances and asking obvious questions rather than telling us what he truly believes.
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-Delta lurking
-caling Thor vs STD town vs town
-asking fenchurch for a new reads list
-the boon question
It's not that he's being "useless" or anything. It just has a blend in and contribute for the sake of it vibe to me.-
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Guys, I know what Boon is getting at with Pie listing him as possible town but I'll let him answer.
Jason, I think you are misrepping Pie's stance. But, again, I'll let him answer first.
STD, I don't have a strong enough read on you or Thor yet to be able to say I definitely agree or disagree, but sthar's writing it off as town vs town just looks like scum trying to show they have reads. It's very easy to take an arguement like that and call it town vs town. Specifically, it stands out because he didn't comment on any specific words you guys posted or anything. He didn't tell us what you said that looks town to him. He just kind of looks at two guys arguing and says they are town. It's just too easy a stance to take without explaining.
I took sthar's comment towards Fenchurch as wanting an update from his previous reads list. Prodding for more, whether he meant what I thought he meant orwhat you thought he meant, is easy to do though.-
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STD, when you say "fair", does it mean you agree or you just understand where I am coming from? Because I notice you didn't use your vote to help me start a wagon on sthar.
Jason, I meant this:
Jason wrote: This is what confuses me, if I am coming off as Logical and considering all circumstances, shouldn't that show as town not scum? Scum don't need to apply logic or consider possibilities, they know who is scum. It is town that needs to be considerate of all options and be logical about them?-
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Boon, my team wants to know some of your reads. They feel you are playing to your scum meta and they don't like that you defended yourself with self meta.
Sthar, read my posts to STD and you should see why I feel the way that I do. Your response about Delta and Fenchurch kind of misses my point. Easy stances weren't all I mentioned. I thought some of your questions had obvious answers (Boon) and you were trying to appear to contribute rather than find scum (the Fenchurch and Delta things). I'm not sure how you took that to mean every one of those bullet points fell under the "easy stances" part of that. But to answer your question, no, I don't find Boon's answer to that question useful at all unless I'm somehow wrong about what he meant.
Boon, I kind of agree with my team here. You seem to overdo the "I'm a VI" thing as scum and just kind of roll with it as town. Here, I feel like you are overdoing it.
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Interesting thing to pick out if that's the case. The only other thing you've said about Fenchurch's reads is this:
mala wrote: I'd be interested in this "scumread" you got on me actually. If you could flesh that out it would be grand.
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I already answered about the Fenchurch and Delta things. They read as trying to appear to contribute rather than truly find scum.
On Boon, he was getting at the fact that Pie knows he is mislynch bait as town so if Pie was town, why list Boon as a town read? It felt obvious to me, but then again that could be because I've played three recent games with Boon so meh. Still, he admitted that was a weak read and you (you're not the only one) are acting like he said Pie was confirmed town for that.
I'd be absolutely shocked if Jason was dumb enough as scum to push you as a lurker vote with a scumbuddy who is a worse offender of the same thing. That's just asking to be connected later on. Even if you haven't played with Jason, surely you realize this is a strong playerlist.
I'll let Fenchurch answer instead of discussing that reads list further.
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Fenchurch, Sthar wanted you to "expound" or something.
Boon, Cheet and Tier said your stuff about telling everyone you hammer your strongest town read and stuff is an attempt to look like VI. Not sure why you think I said they know more than I do about your meta? I'm relaying what they said and I asked you what they wanted me to ask you.
Also, I've skimmed since my last post, not properly read. Stuff just came up. See my sig.-
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Boon, I realize this is from 4 RL days ago, but Cheet wanted to know why you wouldn't repeat something that worked in The Burning?
Sthar, I'm satisfied with your response to my case as long as I see in this read that you followed up on everything you brought up in your original post.
Based on Page 10, I think at least one of Boon/Jason is scum. I don't like how Boon came in all "lol I'm so bad" and Jason seems to have made up his mind far too early that Boon is obvscum. I could see it being a bus. But at the very least, one of these guys is scum.
I like Trojan for town (still on Page 10), but I realize it may be that old bias about agreeing with what he says.
Fenchurch, I'm not positive, but I think Tier and Cheet know Boon just as well as I do, if not better. I've played in three games with him and was NK'd early in both Masquarade and Pokémon, so I'm mostly working with meta from Joss Whedon where he coasted (to an extent) as a town power role. Actually, he may not have even replaced in to Pokémon until I was already dead now that I think about it. But yeah, you asked for my read on Boon. I think that's answered in this post.
Mala, what is your overall read on Boon? You mentioned that you are taking the self meta as null, but what about everything else?
lol Boon's Page 11 is so baaaad.
Delta, who do you mean when you say "TJ"? Is that Trojan? Can you go into more detail on why STD is scum? You mention him a lot in your big post, but I don't actually see any specific points and you say you're just as willing to vote him as you are to vote Boon. I'd like to know why.
Hmm. Most of STD's reads are the exact opposite of mine. Can you explain your reads on Trojan, Fenchurch, and myself as well as your lack of read on Boon and Jason? Nothing in Trojan's posts feels scummy to me. I still have a gut scum read on Fenchurch and no clue why and would love to know why you have a town read. People tend to read me based on my activity and I haven't done jack shit this game, so why am I town? Also, your Thor read is based on his playstyle/personality. Your difficulty explaining your Sleepykrew read is disturbing too.
I only made it through Page 12. I'm gonna try to get back to this tonight, but it might be a long shot. I'm about to stop by work on my day off, go to my son's doctor appointment, and play poker. If I get any time for this tonight, it will be after all of that and that assumes my fiancé is busy or sleeping or in a good enough mood to leave me to this. I'll keep checking in though so I can probably answer any questions on this post.-
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Ok, so back on Page 13, I'm finding myself siding with Delta over STD, especially after STD's OMGUS.
I don't like Jason insisting that nothing about his Boon push was policy. At first, it very clearly looked that way. I'm referring to the "liability" post and the "don't want around late in the game" stuff. Granted, he presented other points and some of them were even before this. But those two posts are him using policy points to sell his case even if he didn't call it that. It feels like he is pretending not to realize that.
Thor, I know you said it's a mild read, but can you explain why you lean scum on Trojan?
Trojan wrote:She's following the game. She's still trying to figure Jason out.
No idea why, but this felt untrue the first time I read it.
I get the feeling Boon is intentionally avoiding voting Delta at the bottom of Page 14. Top of the next page doesn't convince me otherwise.
STD wrote:Our conversation is getting pedantic and neither of us are budging so I'm going to stop.
I can't help but wonder if STD's team told him stop arguing with Thor or he's gonna end up lynched.
Thor, what about Jason's token thing bothered you?
Thor, you mentioned twice that you wanted me to vote. I've been behind for most of the day. Without a good chunk of the info that this game has to offer, I haven't been comfortable voting.
Delta makes a good point about STD's OMGUS and it's along the same lines as what I was thinking. He didn't just OMGUS and be done with it. He tried to justify it.
STD wrote:There's nothing left for me to argue with you so I'm going to do my best to nip this conversation in the bud before it become too verbose
Ok, maybe this wasn't a "don't argue with Thor" thing and that's just how you end arguments...
Boon wrote:Keep in mind, these are page 11 reads! Don't go over exaggerating everything like you all have been. I'll give you 6.
Boon wrote:Yes. it's page 12. How are you possibly town reading all of those?
Is it just me or is this exactly the kind of exaggeration you warned us all about and now you're the one doing it to STD?
Trojan wrote:Not especially, but I'm sure I would've been lynched on the spot if I had done that...
You...weren't...just posting that to try and get a flash wagon going on BS, were you?
Pie can be town, but misguided I think on the Thor vote. I'm not exactly strong town reading Thor, but his style isn't really "work to solve the game". It's more "Guys, I solved the game early Day 1. Now follow me or you're dumb". And that's exactly what he's doing here. Well, to an extent. To be fair, he doesn't seem to be looking for the support the way he normally does and that's the one thing that stands out to me about his play.
Page 18 update on my scum reads. Nothing has changed with Boon/Jason. I think there is scum there. The only slight change is that I'm less convinced this could be scum cross bussing. STD has slipped into a scum read for me. The Trojan gut town read has dropped to maybe scum. Not scum with Jason though. I still don't see Fenchurch or sthar as being exactly obvtown. Fenchurch is still gut and if I ever decide I want to pursue that, I'll try to figure out why. But for right now, that's a very weak read. I'm on the fence on Mala and Thor. I respect both of their play and would probably be town reading them if I didn't know them to be good players. Consider them both weak town. Micc and Sleepykrew are gut/PoE town reads. Delta and Pie feel like town. Best guess at a scum team would be STD, Fenchurch, and one of Boon/Jason. Unfortunately, I'm more sure that one of Boon/Jason is scum than I am of either of the other two being scum so I'd like to sort that today. I realize I am, what's the word? "Watchful", maybe? of a lot of players here. I don't normally have many more scum reads than the number of scum in a game. But paranoia and gut reads seem to be getting the best of me here. When my V/LA is over, I want to get stronger reads on those players (Fenchurch, sthar, Trojan, Thor, Mala). That will be a priority for me.
Sthar wrote:Can you read in English? Egg never asked me for thoughts. He just announced that I was scum.
Something stood out to me and I said is much. I assumed you'd respond and you did. Just because I didn't ask anything specific doesn't mean I wasn't expecting a response from you. It's kind of how mafia works. Someone sees something scummy, points it out, and lays a vote. Person being voted responds. Response gets judged. Repeat until decision is made.
Sthar wrote:Oooh dismissive strawman. You can take that shit right back to wherever you bought it. Actually, it is just good scumplay to foster apathy and inactivity in the town. By attacking my immediate entrance into the game and painting my attempts to figure people out as scummy, Egg puts me on the defensive. I'll have trouble engaging if I'm spending time defending my first impressions, it makes getting into the game an uphill battle, and since I wind up spending time not generating game content it might make me into a viable mislynch.
LMAO. So you think I voted you just to make you not care about the game and easy to lynch? Sorry, but it's a huge stretch to think that I'd think along those lines and even if I did you aren't the player I'd fear most if I was scum. That's not at all how I play anyway.
I know I'm mad fucking close, but I'm out of time on the library computer (well, 4 min remaining but...lol). I've read up to my last content post. Should be able to finish by tomorrow hopefully.-
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Sleepykrew, I just read your perception of the Jason and Thor discussion regarding Boon. It feels accurate to me, but I'm failing to see why you have an issue with it.
Thor, you were asked if you are open to lynching sthar. A simple "sure" surprises me. You are voting the lead wagon, so I thought you'd say something along the lines of "People should be voting Jason if they want to compromise, not someone with zero votes. Why would I change MY vote?". Why are you open to doing that considering the current situation?
Trojan, if Jason were to flip town, how would that affect your Boon and Thor reads? Is Delta your strongest scum read (at the time of your vote) or are you pursuing that vote because he is a new scum read?
Sleepykrew, do you think Trojan may have been bussing Jason when he voted him?
STD, I never said you were a shitty player. Hell, I really don't think you are. At all. Not sure what gives you that impression either. Either I said something that was taken a way that I didn't mean for it to be taken, or that is just AtE. Also, Thor isn't the only player in this game day that you've pulled the "I'm ending this conversation" card on.
sthar wrote:His conclusion was 'trying to appear to contribute without doing so.' But my opinions were not the big popular ones, my questions all had utility and none of them had already been answered. He made a bunch of unsupported assertions involving factual inaccuracies. His read of my posts was not accurate, but he still pushed the same conclusion. What reason does town have to push a conclusion despite the evidence being bad?
I don't think the evidence was bad. To be fair, you haven't followed up on ANY of it except in response to me. If I hadn't said anything, I honestly can't say I believe you'd have done anything with it. Therefore, it was apparently a pretty useless post even though it has the appearance of contribution. So I wasn't exactly wrong on it.
Sthar wrote:My 'angle' amounts to egg being scum because his conclusions were not factually
^This isn't true. Go back and read my posts in response to you earlier.
Delta, my bad. I hadn't read your full attack on STD when I asked that and the first post you made about it didn't give much info. That question was due to me not being caught up as opposed to you not giving enough info.
sthar wrote:He had decided his position before I reacted. That's not the same thing.
If this was true, I wouldn't be wavering on my read on you. Are you even reading my posts? The above seems to apply more to your stance on me than the other way around.
Aaaaaand I'm caught up.
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Skimmed a little. Saw Thor's claim. Still strongly prefer a Jason lynch to Thor. Should have some time to catch up tomorrow.
Hider is semi confirmable over time though. Bodyguard kind of is to an extent, but only if Jason either dies or fails to protect an obvious target. But pre-claim, Jason's play definitely was more lynch worthy than Thor's. *shrug*. I don't feel great about a new wagon popping up and getting yet another power role claim and I still think Jason is scum anyway.-
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sthar wrote: And how am I supposed to know that your read is wavering? Am I a mind reader?
You could read my posts. I gave all of my reads and my guess at a scum team didn't include you. I gave a list of players I wasn't sure about and want to look closer at and you were on it. But yeah if you can read minds, that probably would work better than just reading. It would show that my reads are genuine, so I won't be wearing any tin foil hats. If you can read everyone else's minds, this game could be over pretty quickly if you are town.
sthar wrote: This is a vote for a low-hanging fruit wagon.
Nah. Boon had two votes (I think) at the time. If I was mindlessly wagoning, I'd have voted Jason around Page 3 and parked there all day. Voting you and later Boon doesn't really support your theory.
If Jason flips town, I don't like Trojan's reaction to the claim. I don't mean the fact that he doesn't believe the claim. That's fine and I'm actually with him on that. But something about his push feels fake. Like he's trying to hard and not at all open to maybe being wrong.
Jason wrote: The fact that after a protective claim, there has been 0 unvotes HEAVILY implies this wagon is scum driven and want to see it through. Town would, at least in some way be doubting their reads. In fact, it has made three people even more determined to see it through. (Thor, Horse and SK
Not entirely true. Some people are MORE likely to back off of a power role claim as scum. It looks better. They can play the role of the careful townie. They can jump on those who don't back off. And they can try to out more claims.
Fenchurch, you don't have a single scum read?!?
Jason wrote: Want to make a note here as I believe you have this backwards- surely if I was going to claim something, as scum, it would make more sense to claim something that WOULD be countered to out a more powerful role?
No. If you're scum, that claim is meant to stop your lynch. But even if we go with what you are saying, a doc claim would effectively be a counterclaim so even if you were going for a counterclaim, that's not a terrible choice.
So. If Thor is hiding behind Jason, that immediately sorts the bodyguard claim IF Thor is town.
-Town Thor and scum Jason means they both die
-Town Thor and town Jason means Thor tells us Jason is town. We can decide later.
OR Jason protects successfully and dies. Still sorted
-Scum Thor means all of this is useless.
I personally think Thor is town. If he's not, he'll have to either bus or claim an innocent on a buddy at some point which helps town anyway. But basically, I trust him to sort Jason for us and we don't have to risk lynching a power role that way.
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We need a flashwagon. Everyone not voting needs to change this immediately. If people don't like Boon for today, I'll compromise but this is where I want us to lynch.-
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Pie, why is hider easier to fake? It's essentially confirming a townie every day and if you confirm a buddy and one of you dies, the other is auto lynch. Bodyguard can just say "I tried to protect X and failed" every day which works until there is an obvious protect.
You are misunderstanding my earlier issues with Jason. It's similar to my latest point against Trojan. He didn't seem to be open to any possibility that he could be wrong which doesn't look like he's trying to figure things out.
I understand where you get "going with the flow" from my play. I've been V/LA almost all of Day 1. This should be better on Day 2.
On the Boon/Delta thing, it's noteworthy because I felt like Boon was dancing around a Delta scum read and then came in and defended Delta. If Boon flips scum, it's a good enough reason to look into Delta.
Thor's posts since my second to last catchup look like his town meta. The way he argues with Jason and STD, specifically. And it's not that scum faking innocents on buddies "helps town". It's that the second one of them flips scum, the other is auto lynched which is risky. It's not impossible that this is what Thor is doing. It's just that calling it easy is just straight wrong.
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Trojan wrote: A thought I had today: if Jason is scum and Thor is town, Jason's push to lynch me makes no sense. Jason would know that his goose is cooked if Thor survives the day, so he'd push to lynch Thor. (And he wouldn't look scummy for doing so; as has been pointed out, Thor has made a safe claim that he can get away with.) So either Jason is town, or... oh, this BETTER not be the truth... Jason and Thor are BOTH scum. So I'm certainly not going to push against Jason now
Not if scum has a roleblocker and Jason wants to push "don't lynch PR claims" because he claimed bodyguard.
Pie wrote: Egg (in addition to what you said) appears to be voting him bc he doesn't like his reaction to jason's claim - he believes TH feels way too strongly it's false - and he thinks this despite supposedly not believing jason's claim himself is true. this is also conditional around jason being town, again while he doesn't appear to believe the claim. this is a part of why I'm getting bad gut pings from the way the wagons are right now.
My Day 1 reads don't account for associative tells. After Jason or Trojan flips, I'll re-evaluate. This is true for a handful of reads.
Pie wrote: the bolded isn't strictly true. if you fake claim hider as scum and clear a partner, and then get lynched yourself, the other isn't in any way an auto lynch. it's just a shitton of WIFOM regardless of how you attempt to look at it.
Just typed out my arguement against this and realized you're right. The reverse would still be true though. If one of Thor's "clears" flips scum, fingers are going to get pointed at Thor. And still, a hider can be so valuable that lynching someone who claims it Day 1 is a bad idea. Even if you think he's scum, why not let him get some results on the off chance you're wrong and sort him later? And if you are wrong, there's even the chance he dies at night and we don't have to use up a lynch. I'm realizing the more I think about it that hider would be a better fakeclaim than I thought. But that's still no reason to not get any benefit from a possible real hider.
Still to Pie, on my stance on sthar vs Trojan, you might be right. I may have been voting sthar longer than I thought Trojan was scum. I'm not sure. I think it's close. But I don't see how that is relevant to my current read on either unless you are suggesting that I'm scum with sthar which I'd be shocked if you were doing.
On Thor, still to Pie... it's a vibe I get. He seems to be arguing the way he always does. I don't know why, but I didn't feel that early in the game and I do now. Maybe his activity picked up and that's why? I really don't know. He just feels more like Thor now. Even before, the closest thing I ever had to a scum read on him was paranoia. You're acting like I was ready to vote him and that was never close to being true.
Trojan, why does your team think we have four scum in a 13p game?
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It's a good fakeclaim to make BECAUSE lynching it is such horrible play. We can deal with it later. Hell, even Day 2 if we lynch him and he flips scum, Jason is confirmed as his buddy. If we lynch him today, we don't have that luxury. Waiting will confirm players' alignments regardless of his alignment.-
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In post 867, Fenchurch wrote:If Thor is scum, then no lynch just loses us a Day.
Lynching Trojan isn't nearly as risky though. Or as dumb.-
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In post 873, Trojan Horse wrote:We could have Thor scum and Jason town. I doubt we can have Jason scum and Thor town.
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So Thor alive Day 2 means:
A) Jason town, Thor town. Thor's eventual flip would confirm Jason.
B) Jason town, Thor scum
C) Thor and Jason scum.
Ok, so we only get info if Thor is town.
If we leave Trojan alive and he's town we get....................probably him lynched later anyway???
Lynching Thor is still too risky.
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So I doubt there are two scum from the Thor wagon. If there is a bus, it's Sleepykrew. Maybe Pie, but probably not. I'm looking mostly at Boon, Vyse, and Mala.
STD, my reads are very close to yours right now. Just a gap between Sleepykrew and Mala/Vyse and Pie probably less town than the remaining players on the Thor wagon.
Trojan makes a good point about Vyse asking us rather than his team before voting.
Jason, Boon really claimed he gets better after Day 1? Lmao. Not sure how I missed that. But yeah, I noticed that about Delta and Sleepykrew being here but not active at deadline. Before I saw Thor's flip, I was gonna vote park on Delta today for not helping me push Trojan. I ranted in my team's PT between the hammer and the flip about how pissed I was that he just sat back while we lynched a hider claim. But with Thor being scum, meh. It's possible that he didn't want to look obvious hard defending a buddy and didn't want to be forced to bus, but I think it's more likely he's town.
Sleepykrew, I was bluffing on the no lynch thing. I didn't want to lynch a hider claim, but I'd never allow a Day 1 no lynch when I have the power to avoid it. Thor probably would have been lynched later unless he was town and proved it fast, so Day 1 could have been a wasted day with a no lynch. I know I look like an idiot with Thor's flip, but meh. I'll take a Day 1 scum lynch any day regardless of how I look after it. And to be fair, if I was scum with Thor, I probably would have sat back and let whatever happen instead of catching up right before deadline and hard defending. That or let the no lynch happen because I'd already made a case for it. But if six people think someone is scum enough not to switch and no lynch is the only other choice, I'll trust their read over mine every time. Especially with one minute before deadline. Why don't you like that Trojan says Oversoul didn't like Micc's lurking?
Boon, two things. One, I made it clear I didn't think you and Jason were scum together. You were both scummy and I wasn't going to play the game of associative tells on Day 1. Two, i actually voted Trojan because he already had two votes and was the most viable wagon of my scum reads. I didn't start the wagon. But even if I had, I'm a better player than to go all out like that just to avoid a scum buddy's lynch.
Sthar, why don't you seem to think there is scum in {Boon/Mala/Vyse}?
STD, I don't see how you can possibly think that as scum I'd expect town points for Thor's flip. I know you said you weren't leaning that way, but I found that bit laughable. And I think sthar actually said something similar before deadline.
I really thought I was going to vote Boon today, but my gut is telling me this is a better lynch:
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Sleepykrew, Day 1 no lynches basically makes Day 2 a second Day 1 but with a dead town player in damn near every game where it happens. Do you disagree? Also, Cheet wants to know why Mala isn't in your lynch pool.
Pie, you can tell Mastin I'm not really even close to scum reading you right now. It's just that if someone decided to hard bus, I find you more likely that sthar (maybe), Trojan the counter wagon, STD who got emotional when he was fighting with Thor, dead town Fenchurch, or myself who I know is town. If someone bussed, it had to be Sleepykrew or you with an outside chance of sthar. But I agree with you that we'll probably find both scum on the Trojan wagon and that's where I'm most interested in lynching from today as I said. Wait. Mastin thinks Boon is town for NOT hammering scum? Because he'd obviously hammer his scum buddy? No. I disagree with that.
STD wrote:What exactly about Pie's play looks like bussing
It doesn't. If she bussed, she did it well.
I don't like Mala asking Pie for Mastin's read on her and then explaining that it should be a perfect read. If Pie were scum, couldn't Mastin just get it right from knowing? If Pie is town, there's obviously a chance Mastin could be wrong. So what does this question accomplish? It doesn't sort Pie at all, so it feels like an appeal to be town read.
Sleepykrew wrote:You said both of us
Why did you say both of us
Dunno to be honest. Looks like I misremembered or mistyped or something. Maybe whoever I was responding to included both of you and I didn't fact check.
Boon, why is Mala town?
STD wrote:I retract my previous belief that {Thor, Mala, Boons} is the scumteam...it's a pretty ballsy scum move to post the exact same readslist right after each other
It's probably Vyse and one of Boon/Mala.
Boon wrote:Are we allowed to talk about tokens, and where we put them at?
Are you even reading? Not wanting to talk about it was a point being used against Jason Day 1.
Boon wrote:This post is too wishy washy for me. Who exactly are you scum reading? He's setting himself up so he can vote in any direction without getting scrutinized for it. Congratulations, Egg, you are now only the 2nd scummiest person here.
VOTE: Delta
I'm not seeing it that way. He says Jason is town. He says Sleepykrew is town. He says you are scum. The only possibly wishy washy stances are backing off of STD and Pie. I don't think that post warranted that reaction from you.
Mala's entire argument with Pie rubs me the wrong way. Post 996 by Pie pretty much sums up why.
Trojan, yeah, your lynch was more likely than Boon's and I wanted to lynch someone who didn't claim a power role. My scum read on you wasn't as strong as on Boon but there just wasn't support.
Mala wrote:I was conflicted and I knew that I couldn't wagon anyone else.
Yet you were so dead set against a Boon wagon starting up.
sthar wrote:
Beyond that, Boon is pretty damn town. Mala and Vyse are just now getting their heads in the game, and I'm willing to give them the space to do that. If they lapse into lurking or otherwise become unreadable we can talk about them.
So they are town unless they lurk?
Sthar wrote:@pie- you don't think that Egg wouldn't be tempted to jump Thor's obviously sinking ship to be a part of an otherwise all-town wagon? Even under pressure, when he knew that he was visibly active at deadline?
If I was scum planning on bussing, I'd have done it long before the last minute before deadline.-
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Boon, just because you've bussed before doesn't mean you're town every time scum gets lynched and you aren't on the wagon.
Mala, I wasn't asking you to explain. I got that you were against it. I'm just saying if you were so sure Trojan was town and Boon was an option, you being against it stands out especially when you are saying Trojan was the only choice. I mean it's true to an extent. A Boon lynch wasn't happening. But they way youcame in all fuck no we aren't doing this really stands out to me.
Boon, Delta is probably the least likely from the Trojan wagon to flip scum. (Actually, a double check shows me Jason was on the wagon so second least likely)-
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In post 1058, Egg wrote:Yeah Cheet's question was outdated by the time I got to it lol. My bad
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