Don't worry, I got you bb =P
But I have a bullshit amount of work to do this morning and will catch up mid-late afternoon cst
Don't worry, I got you bb =P
In post 79, TTTT wrote:I hate doing this bc now it's gonna look like I'm super-efforting for this lynchIn post 73, CsBlastoise wrote:But yes, now I'm realizing that I should ask @TTTT, just what is it in Chen's minimal content that you find scummy?
but you asked nicely...
Spoiler:
this looks like newbscum overly concerned with how others perceive him
9 is over-explained
we know chennis read the "Introduction and Tips" post with the RVS info (based on 15)
yet he still goes out of his way to make his RVS vote look un-scummy
10 is unnecessary (again looks like he's concerned with how he's viewed)
15 the "I guess" is noncommitall and the whole post is a missed opportunity to engage with his accuser (GL)
16 here he kinda engages with GL but in an appeasing way that is non-committal and approval seeking
I don't like thisIn post 86, CsBlastoise wrote:[Very fearfully]In post 85, TTTT wrote:c'monIn post 73, CsBlastoise wrote:Too soon to say.In post 62, TTTT wrote:@CsBlastoise
I know it's early
but if you had to pick one scum right now
who it be?
gun to your head who is scum?Aaah! I'm telling you I have no clue! Now get that gun away from me, please!
Seriously, though, I'm on the new side. I'm not that great at reading people. (Not to mention that I was too quick to hammer a Vanilla Townie in Newbie 1827… and I was town.)
(I seriously need to stop citing Newbie 1827.)
Does this post even mean anything? I don't know who he is town reading/scum reading from this..In post 88, Thespio wrote:
Right now, reguardless of our disagreement on NAI early newbie posts, here is my list Town>Scum
CS>TTTT>GuiltyLion
but i cant add anyone else because no one else is posting.
which mechanics?In post 90, Screamingnoodle wrote:I'm a her. I've just been mainly reading what everyone has been saying. Mainly because I am not used to the mechanics that you all have been discussing.
It's stupid as all heck, but seriously, greeting the thread (esp in first posts, but later too I bet) comes from newb!scum way way more often than from newb!townIn post 91, chennisden wrote:Hi, my school blocks Mafia and I had to sleep, so I wasn't on for a while.
I will read through and give thoughts.
the question to thespio seems kind of townie, actually. rest of post pretty naiIn post 95, chennisden wrote:@screaming wait did you just OMGUS me
thoughts: TTTT is probably town tunneling too hard at the beginning. See Newbie 1912 where Enter pushed Loopdan for a D1 lynch. Somewhere between Null & Town Lean
CsBlastoise is Town Lean for trying not to push town too hard at the beginning.
@Thespio what makes you think people are trying to lynch me? Two of the three on my wagon are applying pressure and the other is OMGUSing(?)
@Screaming an OMGUS is usually indicative of scum, though I won't scumread you off of that.
"what else could I possibly talk about in the thread today?"In post 96, CsBlastoise wrote:Oh, here's something that would be nice to know: What time zones are people in?
I'm in the US eastern time zone, GMT -5 (daylight saving starts March 10)
PEdit: Ninja'd
Not scum-indicativeIn post 102, Thespio wrote:In post 95, chennisden wrote:@screaming wait did you just OMGUS me
thoughts: TTTT is probably town tunneling too hard at the beginning. See Newbie 1912 where Enter pushed Loopdan for a D1 lynch. Somewhere between Null & Town Lean
CsBlastoise is Town Lean for trying not to push town too hard at the beginning.
@Thespio what makes you think people are trying to lynch me? Two of the three on my wagon are applying pressure and the other is OMGUSing(?)
@Screaming an OMGUS is usually indicative of scum, though I won't scumread you off of that.
BAM, a newbie, through and through. I’m 100% sure their early game proves it. Here they are reading games of their opponents, if they’re scum they would have blown up PT not our game.
I'm gonna finish reading the thread before I start defending any readIn post 214, chennisden wrote:@URAP
Why do you think GL/TTTT/Thespio are town? And why do you think I'm scum?
Also, what is that townread on NMSA? Has NSMA req'd a replacement?
you should look at my completed newbie games. It's silly how many newbie scum give themselves away immediately.In post 105, chennisden wrote:You're right, RVS is a bad way to scumread. I'll wait for more content before I can really say who scum is.
Thespio did not mention either having a scum game or game 1912 prior to you mentioning having read it.In post 112, chennisden wrote:1912 was the only game I read after the 1917 thread started.
And iirc Thespio claimed somewhere it was his only scumgame
Catch and Release only fishing today at the lake I guess??In post 146, TTTT wrote:I can buy town!chennisden backwards-justifying why he was reading that other game
it's a bit suspicious cuz he doesn't mention Muh (who was also in that game)
but it's possibly a town mistake
I wanna move on from that
particularly because 140 is much worse than anything else he's written
I seem to remember someone mentioning this once or twice, yeah =)In post 167, CsBlastoise wrote:(I'm new-ish, remember)
there is def some lynchbait in this game, mate lol =)In post 185, TTTT wrote:@URAP
I mostly want to hear from you if you think any of these newer players are town-telling yet
usually I can pick up an early TR or two on newbies
but I got nothing rn
yes I am feeling this town bloc for sureIn post 192, GuiltyLion wrote:omg URAP2! welcome, can we be town together?? TTTT/URAP2/GL townbloc but would wreck scum in this game I think
TTTT I entirely agree about how none of the newbies seem to be towntelling. If I had to pick one out of all of them it'd be CsBlastoise for town but even he is not without concern.
chen has been desperately trying to argue that other slots should be engaged/pressured ever since getting scum read Lots of other slots. Any other slot. I think it's just transparently scum.In post 194, GuiltyLion wrote:like I don't know if newbscum!Chen thinks to post 134, that just kinda vibes fundamentally honest paranoia about me. and then 136 doesn't feel like scum lying either. I think what was pinging me earlier may be just kinda awkwardness and trying to play "correctly" in a sense
i think it's entirely inconsistent with the tone and direction Chenn took starting immediately after thisIn post 199, TTTT wrote:GL give your thoughts on this plzIn post 140, chennisden wrote:New read on TTTT: Scum.
He's making his stuff hard to understand to town. He has no real reason to scumread me.
Literally his only evidence is me forgetting something. Yet he's acting very scummy - posting stuff with little explanation, most of stuff he posts is sarcastic, etc.
But I think TTTT has a point with Muh. If others think this is TvT, I think we gotta go for Muh.
I think you should read my completed newbie games and the PT's I kept if you want to see just how alignment indicative early posts can be.In post 203, CsBlastoise wrote:Eh, I feel like NMSA hasn't posted enough content yet to get a read — again, 4 posts, all of them one-liners (not counting quotes), is basically nothing to go on.In post 202, u r a person 2 wrote:oh NMSA is probably town, too. Let's call it town lean because he's a smart guy and could probably improve dramatically from game 1 to game 2. i'll look more into that idea later
tbh this reading is undercut by just how non-existent the chenn wagon is rn.In post 236, u r a person 2 wrote:chen has been desperately trying to argue that other slots should be engaged/pressured ever since getting scum read Lots of other slots. Any other slot. I think it's just transparently scum.In post 194, GuiltyLion wrote:like I don't know if newbscum!Chen thinks to post 134, that just kinda vibes fundamentally honest paranoia about me. and then 136 doesn't feel like scum lying either. I think what was pinging me earlier may be just kinda awkwardness and trying to play "correctly" in a sense
nope you're at L-3In post 197, GuiltyLion wrote:eh okay maybe this is townIn post 196, Screamingnoodle wrote:(which I would hope not be the case in a newbie game)
VOTE: Thespio
who is up for this lynch
I'm not trying to imply that you're stupid. I don't think you are.In post 244, chennisden wrote:as for #226, im new but not stupid. lurking would make me in the bottom of the scumreads, but I want to actually help town (because I'm town).
why not? I would =PIn post 247, chennisden wrote:I know you aren't implying I'm stupid. I'm just saying that as mafia, would I really go out and be the center of attention instead of lurking? No newbscum would pull such a gambit, especially w/ coaching
And are you asking about the @GL section? I remember he said that I shouldn't worry about playing to some "norm," it was in response to that
his tone in his opening post and in his last two posts (one post and ebwop) are just a lot more easy flowing than last game. and he was scum last game.In post 251, chennisden wrote:oops echo replaced Saint not NSMA
Why do you townread NSMA? For one I think his lurking is a little scummy.
I agree with you about the rest of his pointsIn post 267, CsBlastoise wrote:Well, URAP, I'd say based on posts that closely preceded it that Thespio had either a scumlean or a scumread on GL. Really, you should be asking Thespio this question — and I must ask why you're asking about something from 150 posts before yours, written 24 hours before your post, when Thespio may well have changed his reads by now — but I suppose your post is good for getting reactions as well as getting answers.
not sure how my fingers typed this but what my brain was thinking wasIn post 270, u r a person 2 wrote:I agree with you about the rest of his points
mate, please find an hour to give some actual content sometime in the next few days.In post 293, NotMySpamAccount wrote:Not scum, just crazy busy irl because of tests and other stuff, plus I trust those two to find scum cause I have nothing else to go on besides a scumlean on chennisden.In post 260, Thespio wrote:Sheeping this early into the game, when there are people not posting. this ladies and gentlemen is called a scum tell.In post 254, NotMySpamAccount wrote:, I'm going to sheep urap and TTTT unless one flips scum, since my reads so far pretty much line up.
How's this now?In post 309, EchoVision wrote:not really, the only reason there's really a wagon on chennis is people feel the need to have a wagon somewhere
i'm on it bc i think it's fun :shrug:
yupIn post 317, chennisden wrote:@urap happy on my wagon?
no one should claim anything until someone gives intent to hammer themIn post 319, CsBlastoise wrote:Okay, but don't hold off too long on that claim. I think you already know what it will look like if you start to stall too much.
wow i am having serious deja vu here rnIn post 322, NotMySpamAccount wrote:I don't know about anyone else, but the start of this just seems scummy for some reason. Leaves a bad taste in my mouth, can't tell why. Can anyone explain the last sentence? I can't quite understand what it means, it seems disconnected if you know what I mean. Also, sorry for the inactivity.
In post 327, EchoVision wrote:so like this is kinda bold but do scum have daychat ?
yeah do they?In post 328, chennisden wrote:I have the same question. Does scum have daychat?
These are called dumb-tells, boys and girls. Here, Echo and Chenn present as not having enough information to possibly be scum. It's super easy to fake, and almost always the information is available in the first few posts.
This is basically the question im ponderingIn post 333, chennisden wrote:Answers to above:
1. I only had one scumread when I posted my reads list. I've changed my mind on Spam and think his posts seem scummy rather than NAI now, but that wasn't >1 read before.
2. 1 vote will do nothing
But since you asked so nicely,
VOTE: NotMySpamAccount
how so?In post 373, Screamingnoodle wrote:The content you have posted has definitely changed what I think.
he likes to say something to the effect of "sort by post count, become pretty good scum hunter"In post 377, Screamingnoodle wrote:Why to lynch me? Please explain.In post 321, u r a person 2 wrote:if mhsmith were here he would be telling us to stop thinking and lynch nmsa and screaming
but i dont want to talk my way out of this
If anything, I think I've given plenty away to be screaming Town to the high heavens. I'm genuinely curious.
i said it for a mix of reasonsIn post 382, EchoVision wrote:was this mhsmith comment said for a reason? or just to say it, just out of curiosity. if the former, what reason? do you think we should lynch those two ??
NoIn post 388, Screamingnoodle wrote:I've been town telling since my first thought post, but I understand it's hard to pick up. Maybe coming out the gate saying "I'M TOWN" makes it better?
nope not why you're being scum readIn post 391, Screamingnoodle wrote:I probably cast suspicion on myself for being AFK all weekend. :/ Which I can understand... I guess.
i think im in agreement on town!chennis = town!echoIn post 395, TTTT wrote:my notes say
town!chennis = town!NotMy & town!Echo
not sure why
probably how the wagon formed
this is a problem i'm having as well.In post 403, TTTT wrote:I don't have a single strong TR
oh interesting. This is actually the post that makes me scum read NMSA and also the one that made me start to reconsider on chenn. I thought this was exactly how scum!nmsa would hop on a mislynchIn post 410, TTTT wrote:Found it...
254
I don't see scum!NotMy openly sheeping the third vote onto a mislynch
I read that post as genuine
Yeah i don't care, jump inIn post 418, GuiltyLion wrote:can I jump in on this or do you want TTTT to answer firstIn post 416, u r a person 2 wrote:oh interesting. This is actually the post that makes me scum read NMSA and also the one that made me start to reconsider on chenn. I thought this was exactly how scum!nmsa would hop on a mislynchIn post 410, TTTT wrote:Found it...
254
I don't see scum!NotMy openly sheeping the third vote onto a mislynch
I read that post as genuine
This is the point on which we build our town bloc. Why does scum!nmsa not do this?
Let me go back and read his iso in the first game because I had not drawn the same conclusion. I'm not going to be able to follow through on this until this evening. Although, since both you and GL have the same read on this, I'm inclined to listenIn post 420, TTTT wrote:I think he learned from his first game (as scum) about what looks like acting
I think if he rolled scum here he would be playing it super safe and try not to stick out