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Post #52 (isolation #5) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 1:37 pm
Postby TrueSoulEnergy »
In post 46, chazary wrote:Since I'm scumreading TSE too but don't wanna L-1 I'm gonna push Virgo for a response. Assuming TSE is scum for hardclaiming then Virgo would have to be scum with them.
VOTE: JacksonVirgo
Why are you scum reading me.
I only have like 5 Posts.
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Post #54 (isolation #7) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 1:39 pm
Postby TrueSoulEnergy »
In post 47, Luca Blight wrote:If TSE is indeed scum then it’s unlikely he claims Masons with his actual scum buddy there.
The purpose wouldn’t be to maintain the claim for the rest of the game, but to draw out claims from others in the games by how they react to it. When confronted, TSE can hide behind ‘I was just joking lol’, but it won’t wash here.
I can’t fake claim Masons with a buddy who’ve I played multiple games with?
I’ve played like 8 games with Jackson Virgo and he’s a staff member on my server.
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Post #55 (isolation #8) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 1:41 pm
Postby TrueSoulEnergy »
In post 49, Luca Blight wrote:If both scum hard claim masons D1 and stick to it, then they lose 100% of the time.
Yes Jackson probably would call him out on it, and in doing so might reveal something about his role, as might others in how they respond/comment on it. For example, if someone takes the claim as the truth then they obviously aren’t a pr, as we’re in a semi-open.
Yes because those who fake claim Masons are always scum trying to hide behind a “fake mason” claim.
Yes I agree, it can be done as scum to attempt to gain Town credit.
But again, I was doing it because of Jackson Virgo my Buddy.
We were going with the OG Town Play.
Of course if he’s mafia then it’s not so OG LOL.
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Post #57 (isolation #10) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 1:42 pm
Postby TrueSoulEnergy »
In post 50, Luca Blight wrote:Claiming Masons like that is sometimes done jokingly in closed setups, but here it’s completely inappropriate being a newbie and semi-open - it’s basically asking for roles to be revealed, and as an SE I suspect he knows what he’s doing.
In post 50, Luca Blight wrote:Claiming Masons like that is sometimes done jokingly in closed setups, but here it’s completely inappropriate being a newbie and semi-open - it’s basically asking for roles to be revealed, and as an SE I suspect he knows what he’s doing.
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Post #64 (isolation #12) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 5:40 pm
Postby TrueSoulEnergy »
In post 61, chazary wrote:When one of your posts is claiming a role I’d say it’s pretty alignment indicative but ok
Also what? Is claiming masons like an inside joke for you guys then? Or like a site wide joke I’m unfamiliar with?
First came I played with him he was neighbours with EqsyLootz and I said you both are Masons.
And funny enough because I’m just that awesome all 3 of us were Town.
But the IC lynched me day 1 because I said that.
Like LOL.
Want to link?
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Post #69 (isolation #15) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 6:59 pm
Postby TrueSoulEnergy »
In post 68, Luca Blight wrote:We're in a semi-open. If someone believes your claim, it means that player isn't a pr. If a player strongly opposes, it might mean they are a pr. It could also potentially lead to counter-claims, or just hints at what someone's role might be.
Or like in most games, people can tell it’s fake or at least are questioning rather it is or not.
The fact everyone felt like that proves my point further.
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Post #70 (isolation #16) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:02 pm
Postby TrueSoulEnergy »
How confident is your scum read on me?
@Bugs @GB @Luca
Because you know like, usually in a 2 Page, someone doesn’t have 3 votes on them with everyone scum reading them unless they straight out claimed wolf.
:/.
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Post #71 (isolation #17) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:05 pm
Postby TrueSoulEnergy »
So I’m just curious how confident your reads are to determine who the scum is on my wagon.
Because if your all Town here, I’ma rethink my entire perception on shit.
Or think about others.
Honestly, if your all town scum should just quick hammer me for lols so the host can get a scummy for the game with the quickest Day 1 lynch.
Or has that already been beat?
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Post #87 (isolation #18) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 2:52 am
Postby TrueSoulEnergy »
I’ve just never been in a game where I had 3 votes on me so quickly that are actual votes,
I had 3 meme votes on me quickly but never 3 actually scum read votes.
In post 105, JacksonVirgo wrote:TSE always does this stuff as Town, it's NAI here so if you're pushing them just for that it's opportunistic and I will hunt your ass down
If it’s NAI then why are you Townreading him for it?
A guy you Null reading made a meme.
3 people called that meme sus and voted him with actual confidence in a slight scum read.
Plus it was super fast all in 2 pages.
What would you think?
And I don’t think Jackson is Town Reading me for it persay.
But rather leaning me above rand town for the fact on how it all went down.
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Post #118 (isolation #23) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:09 pm
Postby TrueSoulEnergy »
In post 113, Luca Blight wrote:Actually two people voted you for it; George was voting you before your claim.
I think it's natural to suspect potential role-fishing early in a newbie. Your votes were warranted; it does nothing to suggest you might be Town.
Then you might be going blind.
Bugs Unvoted me to GB then switched back to me after they voted you.
GB only voted me to sheep Bugs’s Meme vote on me.
(He even said “Choo Choo”)
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Post #122 (isolation #26) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:13 pm
Postby TrueSoulEnergy »
In post 119, bugspray wrote:That website is so ugly to look at deadass I'm just going to assume you're fucking with me unless you actually link the relevant posts from that thread sorry
Yes because I lie about a game thread.
@Luca
You wanna read my thread?
VOTE: Bugs
Yeah I’m not liking how your playing this game.
I wasn’t going to vote you just yet but when you say I’m lying about doing something on a link. That’s just scum tell.
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Post #124 (isolation #27) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:16 pm
Postby TrueSoulEnergy »
In case someone goes “Oh TSE your super scummy AF for saying “vote you just yet”
Allow me to say this:
There was some other things like how you adjusted your votes that was like “eh”
“Might not vote this as it stands currently type of thing”
It wasn’t until what you said recently that made me vote you.
In post 113, Luca Blight wrote:Actually two people voted you for it; George was voting you before your claim.
I think it's natural to suspect potential role-fishing early in a newbie. Your votes were warranted; it does nothing to suggest you might be Town.
Then you might be going blind.
Bugs Unvoted me to GB then switched back to me after they voted you.
GB only voted me to sheep Bugs’s Meme vote on me.
(He even said “Choo Choo”)
Perhaps you're the one going blind, as you've misunderstood another post of mine.
You said three players voted you based on the claim, I said only two did (me and Bugs) and that George was already voting you from RVS.
And no-one voted me?
George says he scum read me based off my reaction if you look at his ISO.
Yeah I’m not liking how your playing this game.
I wasn’t going to vote you just yet but when you say I’m lying about doing something on a link. That’s just scum tell.
This is a pretty blatant misrep btw.
Are you seriously SR'ing Bugs for that?
I’m just saying out of you, GB and Bugs.
Bugs is most likely to be the mafia.
forming wagons early on on day1 is the core of scumhunting.
all you've offered so far is flaccid deflection
@tse
Why am I more likely to be scum than GB?
Not sure how I’m deflecting.
Your more likely to be scum then GB because your vote between me, you comments on me seems opportunistic and you seem to be looking to form a miss lynch on me and I don’t feel you actually plan to change your vote on me but rather hope you can pull of a miss lynch.
As for GB he actually gave a good portion of reasoning.
He even said his original vote wasn’t to scum read me but rather memy. It’s not until I reacted to it that made him scum read me.
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Post #159 (isolation #34) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 2:04 pm
Postby TrueSoulEnergy »
In post 142, bugspray wrote:You are my strongest scum read and there is a wagon on you so you're right on thinking that I'm going to keep voting you for now. But don't you think it's really weird how quiet gb has been?
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Post #161 (isolation #36) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 2:08 pm
Postby TrueSoulEnergy »
In post 144, chazary wrote:Also yikes TSE I don't see why you can't just link to past examples of this claim tactic or whatever. And your posts seem more and more panicky and defensive.
Also Luca and Bugs are coming off pretty town here although I was and still am kind of null on Bugs just because of his initial questions and how he reacted to other peoples answers. But that's long past and has gotten us out of RVS quickly so I am thankful for them in retrospect.
Because I’m not going to take up 15 mins of my time to go look at them when people can do it themselves.
They asked for a link, not a full on post in a past game.
I can see how you can consider my reaction “panicky” but TBH how would you react with 3 actual scum read votes on you and it’s only page 2.
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Post #165 (isolation #40) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 2:12 pm
Postby TrueSoulEnergy »
In post 155, GeorgeBailey wrote:Although most of Jackson's posts were chit-chatting with TSE, then townreading him for meta reasons. And Jackson has been doing most of the buddying too.... Big think time.
NGL.
I am taking Jackson Potential puppeting me into consideration.
In post 155, GeorgeBailey wrote:Although most of Jackson's posts were chit-chatting with TSE, then townreading him for meta reasons. And Jackson has been doing most of the buddying too.... Big think time.
NGL.
I am taking Jackson Potential puppeting me into consideration.
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Post #187 (isolation #44) » Sat Feb 01, 2020 6:10 am
Postby TrueSoulEnergy »
I know this is out of game context but TLOK and JV would be good friends as they both like similar to each other. Although they have different hair colours.
In post 186, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:@GB who’s your biggest scum read? Is it still me?
@Bugs @Luca Other then Myself, who else do you scum read?
This just kind of reads like youre trying to shift focus away from yourself. And then your post following it is just... random nonsense.
WRONG.
I’m trying to figure out their individual alignment and thoughts towards others.
There is only 2 mafia in the format meaning if mafia for some reason both voted me, the last guy is still Town.
And you claim I’m “shifting focus away from myself”
When In actuality, I’m trying to solve this game as well as prevent my own miss lynch from occurring.
Thus why I want to get as much information as I can so we don’t end up miss lynching today.
If we do end up Miss Lynch today, I would like to at least partly confirm a mafia via the miss lynch.
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Post #196 (isolation #46) » Sat Feb 01, 2020 11:50 am
Postby TrueSoulEnergy »
In post 194, bugspray wrote:like yeah tse is scummy but its useful just to get our reads out there so that we have more to go on
it can help others make more informed reads and allow ppl to poe
I feel that out of you 3 who voted me I think your the most Town and Bugs is the most Scum.
Who out of the people who voted me do you think is scum?
TBH I’m not entirely sure myself.
In post 186, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:@GB who’s your biggest scum read? Is it still me?
@Bugs @Luca Other then Myself, who else do you scum read?
This just kind of reads like youre trying to shift focus away from yourself. And then your post following it is just... random nonsense.
WRONG.
I’m trying to figure out their individual alignment and thoughts towards others.
There is only 2 mafia in the format meaning if mafia for some reason both voted me, the last guy is still Town.
And you claim I’m “shifting focus away from myself”
When In actuality, I’m trying to solve this game as well as prevent my own miss lynch from occurring.
Thus why I want to get as much information as I can so we don’t end up miss lynching today.
If we do end up Miss Lynch today, I would like to at least partly confirm a mafia via the miss lynch.
mislynch doesnt even sound like a word anymore
it wasn't so much you asking for reads as it was the way you went about it. @ing only the people on your wagon and including "is it still me?"/"other than myself". Sounds like you're more concerned about where you fall in their reads than you do about actually knowing what they are
It can be solved by PoE which is what I was trying to do.
As I said that quick vote on me made me feel uneasy about the 3 of them all being Town.
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Post #213 (isolation #52) » Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:25 pm
Postby TrueSoulEnergy »
In post 211, chazary wrote:Since you like hopping on wagons so much I’ll hop on yours
VOTE: bugspray
Let me ask you this.
Why shouldn’t I vote you?
I mean, your claiming me and Bugs are SvS.
So if Bugs flips Scum your trying to make it as if you are the Town and I could still easily be scum.
Here’s another good question.
What makes you more Town then me and Bugs?
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Post #214 (isolation #53) » Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:27 pm
Postby TrueSoulEnergy »
Another question.
If you scum read me before why didn’t you jump on My wagon but jumped on Bugs?
The only actual reasoning I can think of is maybe you didn’t want to put me at 4 votes but still.
Other then that what made you not vote against me?
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Post #248 (isolation #55) » Sun Feb 02, 2020 5:33 am
Postby TrueSoulEnergy »
In post 247, Luca Blight wrote:It really feels like TSE is gearing up to vote Chaz, but is using the whole ‘why shouldn’t I vote for you?’ line to seem as though he isn’t being opportunistic and is giving Chaz a chance to reply before voting, but these questions are designed for failure - nothing he could say in reply would reflect positively.
Is it wrong to ask questions to solve the game?
And Yes I am trying to figure out if I should vote him or not.
There is 2 mafia in this game, as such I’m trying to figure out whom is most likely to flip Mafia.
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Post #253 (isolation #57) » Sun Feb 02, 2020 6:00 am
Postby TrueSoulEnergy »
In post 252, bugspray wrote:nobody is laughing, it was an unfunny joke, it hurt town
i think for now the only course of action is for us to "agree to disagree" even though we all know that's centrist bullcrap
in the words of stirner
agreeing to disagree is a spook
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Post #269 (isolation #58) » Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:04 pm
Postby TrueSoulEnergy »
In post 257, Luca Blight wrote:Why does TSE keep emphasizing the fact he had three votes, as if it makes him less likely to be scum or something?
His two SR's both currently have 3 votes - does that make them less likely to be scum as well?
When did I say Chaz was my Scum Read?
I said I’m considering him to be.
Why do I emphasize it? Maybe it’s because I think it is dumb. That’s why. Less likely to be scum? No Not really and you could also take into consideration that wolves like to vote their own partner early game so that could also be the case.
By all means you can view me as scum, but understand this. Your voting me for 2 Reasons. 1) The Mason Claim 2)Events that happened because of the fact you didn’t like the mason claim