Newbie 1379 (Game Over)

[DoctorPepper]

Hi guys! I am one of your three SE's! Feel free to ask me, Edosurist, Antagon, or our IC goodmorning questions about this game, we (especially the IC) are here to teach you so you'd have fun playing on this site.

And to start.
VOTE: Slyther
Your name creeps me out.

Oh yeah, some of you may come from sites which advocate no lynch Day 1. And frown on random voting. Well its different here, we start with a Random Voting Stage, we just vote for joke reasons, hopefully to get reactions which will help create discussion to start the game.

And yes, never advocate no lynch day 1, its never beneficial. In this set up, there are 2 scum and 7 town, which affords us a few mislynches which we can use to analyze the lynches, why they happen and who set them up for the kill. If you need more explanation to things, feel free to ask

Also have fun. And we hope you play more games on this site after this. And as much as possible. Dont flake and replace out.

[DoctorPepper]

@Mod, the thread still says Pre-Game

[DoctorPepper]

Hi Future. Cool avatar.

Some questions to get started, perhaps?

1. Have you ever played an offsite game before?
2. What are your first impressions of the site?
3. What's your first language?
4. Are you scum? *cough i'mageniusiknow cough*

1. Nope, mafiascum was my first game of mafia.
2. I liked it when I saw it, but I thought it was too slow at first so I played at epic mafia more. But then I got hooked after my first game and I have never left since.
3. English
4. No, but I guess this is what everyone would answer, no scum is going to give up that easily.

I did like your question 4, how a player answers this is indicative of alignment.

I feel like goodmorning is making a mountain out of a molehill here, that sounded more of a reason for RVS rather than coaching. The have confidence with yiurself thing was more of addressing how Saki (correct me if I'm wrong) first post, it sounded kinda timid.

I like Saki's question, at first. But there is no rolecop in this set-up. Trying to go for a slip?

[DoctorPepper]

Not to nitpick but A,erican is not a language o.O

[DoctorPepper]

I dont like Saki's reason for why everyone is scum.
a) lurking is not just "not posting", lurking is having read the thread but not spoken about it, you can see this if alayer posts in other forums or is online, you can see if they are online on the bottom of the page.
b) his reason for why future is scum is OMGUS (an Oh My God You Suck vote is basically voting for someone else because they voted for you and no other reason), but this is more of a null tell.
c) says Edo or GM is scum, but votes manilai. Uhm, im guessing manilai hasnt even read this thread yet, so a vote does nothing
d) says GM is scum for being aggressive, in a game where one needs to hunt scum.
e) how are Slyther's questions "obviously done to uncover roles" ?

VOTE: Saki

[DoctorPepper]

I town read Diplomat for unvoting. If he kept his vote, it would have been opportunistic scum, however him realizing the possibility of blitz reads townish to me

[DoctorPepper]

Future, your points on me are weak.
1. My reasons for voting Saki was way more than "OMG OMGUS, DIE SCUM!" Because a) OMGUS is a null tell and I've mentioned that b) my other reasons are better reasons for Voting Saki. Saying the only thing I did was jump on an easy wagon because "OMGUS" is a misrepresentation of my arguments. Misrep is scummy.
2. Im scum for having town reads? Lmao. By that logic everyone who town reads is scum. Its important to see town reads as well as scum reads in games at mafia scum. It eliminates scum options from your point of view. Ironically enough, you town read GoodMorning as well so that makes 0 sense if you call me scum for it.

[DoctorPepper]

Slyther, theres really not anything wrong with attacking a bad case.

Future, I dont know whats wrong with a quick town read. So I called his actions town, doing so quickly does not automatically equate scum.
Your Antagon wagon makes some sense, but Antagon basically stated the possibility of Saki being newbtown. No certainty of scum on his post.

[DoctorPepper]

Exactly what points did I dodge? The points I answered before you said I was "so defensive" ? I dont get where you are coming from here Slyther.

[DoctorPepper]

Uhm Future, while voting is taking a stance, you can take a stance without voting first, through uhm idk, actually questioning people. You've put yourself into a leadership position here, clamoring for everyone to vote and give reads, as if to look town. Its like youre looking too hard to be town

[DoctorPepper]

Gotten a little behind admittedly, didnt notice you made the same comment.
Theres little substance in this game honestly, I do notice that Slyther's mind keeps changing constantly, first he agree with future, then later votes for him?
Antagon, if you really needed a vote, manilai was a bad place for it. Ii always dislike votes on inactives, simply because it actually does nothing to forward the game and the inactive person wont see it anyway.

@Mod: I doubt manilai will be playing, it has been 4 days since the post

[DoctorPepper]

Oh notscience, we meet again. Tell me exactly how Im being so defensive and that I have NEVER done anything to scumhunt. I feel like notscience is kinda concerned about the votes on his slot. Yes, voting a player who has done nothing is a way to look like youre doing something when youre actually doing jackshit. However, I agree with Antagon, voting the slot itself pressures the slot into participating. The difference is, the slot is the target, not the person, not looking for an easy lynch. The thing is, notscience is overreacting to the votes on the slot.

Yeah, not sure about Saki, player hasnt responded in a while. But the fact is, just because someone is playing like a newb, doesnt mean its automatically newbtown.

Yes Future, trying too hard too look town indicates youre hiding something, that should be obvious.

[DoctorPepper]

Did I vote you? Besides, the whole "vote the slot thing" has been discussed before. You havent answered my principal question, where have I not hunted and opted just to defend myself?

[DoctorPepper]

Uhm what points are weak exactly? What points were null tells, you just gave the generic statement of "the case is weak" without explicitly proving why, which just makes you look like youre agreeing to town opinion or just, sheeping.

I have been questioning Future havent I?

[DoctorPepper]

Did I assume they were noobscum or are you putting words in my mouth?
I can understand the OMGUS being a null tell, everything else is not.

As for Edo: look at his first post, complaining about how bad the votes are on him.
And yes, my vote is still there, for pressure. She hasnt come back yet to answer.

[DoctorPepper]

Okay, that makes more sense. Regardless of that, vote stays until I hear defense. Good morning stated this before, newb tells are not necessarily alignment indicative.

So science, what do you think of everyone else in the game?

[DoctorPepper]

Why is being vocal more scum than town?
Also, what do you think about the people who voted for you, myself included?

[DoctorPepper]

Not criticizing your play, just stating i didnt like your case. Votes arent permanent. Why did you feel the need to say "im not falling for that hey I want your opinion again"

[DoctorPepper]

Antagon expressed a similar opinion to me and DDC, what do you think about his view of you?

[DoctorPepper]

I love how Future says "DONT TELL ME WHAT TO DO" when he's basically telling everyone what to do at this point.

What makes you so sure a flip from you would automatically implicate me as scum? That whole "lynch me but lynch DP next" is totally like a call for "hey Im town, look Im willing to be lynched, I can never be scum"

Anyway why claim where no one intended to hammer?

Slyther, that post was useless btw. That last part with the dogs. It was like you made it long just to make it seem like you have a coherent read list

[DoctorPepper]

Also I reread through the thread. Where have I been champion dodging shit?

EBWOP: Havent read all the way through. Kinda stressed cause im in 4 games atm, so I havent had time to catch up that well

[DoctorPepper]

WBWOP: havent read all the way through until now.

[DoctorPepper]

Stating your opinion is an integral part of the game and you not wanting to do so makes it sound like youre hiding something.

Also, what have I dodged?

[DoctorPepper]

GM, why the sudden unvote of Future when he stated intent to be lynched?

Also, enlighten me on what I dodged, I do not see it

[DoctorPepper]

Saki, do you not see the point here, yes he intends me to be lynched, while he himself says "Im fine with you lynching me as long as it means you lynch DP next". That in itself shows an intent to be lynched. Now you stop twisting people's words, it makes you seem scummier than people perceive you to be.

So Im not interacting with anyone else? So essentially the question I proposed to good morning that you just quoted wasnt interaction, or when I answered Edo's points or questioned Antagon earlier about voting the manilai slot, sure I dont interact with them as much as I do with, say you or Future or notscience, who is also semi experienced, you just stating I avoid all interactions is false. Yes I am at fault here too for going for you guys more, and maybe i should try to fix that.

Btw, the only person I have experience with here is notscience and you dont see me avoiding him.

I hear a chainsaw whirring.

[DoctorPepper]

Admittedly, I havent been paying attention to this game as much as I am supposed to, I am in four games and for some odd reason, this was at the lowest priority. You all deserve better and I shall re-read, ISO, ad give a coherent list of reads, hopefully by tonight or tomorrow morning

[DoctorPepper]

Will ISO everyone individually, as its easier for me to do so.

Nothing really strikes me from DDC, except for that quick unvote when he realized that Saki was at L-1 when he voted. I like his 215 when he basically treats GM as a normal player, not just sheeping the IC.

Did you ever get around that reread you promised on 109 and your read list on 234 ?

Null read until something happens. Next up, Good Morning.

[DoctorPepper]

Its only until 79 where GM actually starts to make relevant posts. A bulk of the posts before that involved accusations of coaching, which barely make any sense considering it was an off hand RVS remark which barely counts as coaching. Funny thing is, its what spurred her tunneling of her main scum read, Future. The other part is IC explanation play. Funny thing, why would it strike you as strange when DDC said he played rolecop once, when this set up has no rolecop?

Her whole "there arent any tells that go beyond newb to an actual alignment" in 133 seems logical at first. Then later she contradicts herself by saying in her reads that Slyther is "screaming newbtown".

116 is worded quite awkwardly. "if I were a townie with a scum read on Saki"? Very odd emphasis on "if I were a townie". So, youre not a townie?

I dont quite get how she made her read list. As I've stated she says Slyther is screaming newb town, while saying Saki is null because "this guy is a newb, hasnt dropped any real alignment tells". No explanation for The Antagon read. The Edos read makes no sense. If a player has a known "scum meta", wouldnt said player avoid exhibiting traits from said playstyle? Its like a read list for the sake of having a read list.

Again, I ask, what exactly about Future's willingness to be lynched made

How is attacking players for playstyle "blatant townfishing cred" ?

That being said, her case on Future makes the most sense out of all the cases on Future, such as the questioning of the holes in logic like in 107 by calling Future out for perceived scum tells, which players of both alignments actually do.

In any case, aside from that 116, Im comfortable putting her at null-leaning town to town. She does comment on most of the things happening here, her caseslook solid and they look like theyre legit scumhunting.

Next, Slyther

[DoctorPepper]

Quick assessment, Slyther is town and its quite obvious.

First tell, initiation of RVS. Yeah, a lot of people dont like RVS, but I actually liked his "Are you scum?" Question. If you get lucky, its has potential to get a slip and how one answers a seemingly innocuous question can (but not always is) alignment indicative.
I liked his early assessment of Saki, which I shall relate to the other players later on

Slyther questions everyone, so it shows he's not afraid to ruffle people's feathers, he shows a town mindset.
His case on Future, 131 was solid, it brought up a point no one else did when he noticed the weird phrasing of Future's 95

However. His posts 120 and 126 contradict each other (later explained, but still.)
The read lost bothers me. First, DDC is listed as town, yet Edos and I are null because of lack of participation, yet DDC hasnt posted a lot of substance and I have more posts.
Second, that weird ending statement on Future. No connection whatsoever. Its like it was made intentionally longer or something so it would look ggod. (science, you noticed that it was present, not why it was present)

Otherwise, town.

Will provide the rest maybe later or tomorrow, I'll be busy for a while.

[DoctorPepper]

Edos has a whopping 9 posts in this game, hard to read him.

174 How has future avoided pointing out who is scummy, when he basically loudly stated that he thinks me and Antagon are scum and he's willing to be lynched just to try to get me lynched (logical fallacy right there, with deal with this more on your iso)? In fact, pointing out who he thinks are scummy is basicLly half of what he does in this game.

I agree with his sentiments on Future, but aside from that, nothing spectacular. Null leaning town.

[DoctorPepper]

I still have Antagon, notscience, Saki, and Future. i will continue this in that order tomorrow morning. For now I shall sleep.

[DoctorPepper]

Not much to say, GM.

I'm also not thrilled with DP's ISOs. Seems like a way to save face.

Like I said, I havent exactly been as engaged in this game like I should, so I decided to get in it. It seems like you hate everything I do at this point.

[DoctorPepper]

I kinda find it funny that I received flak for voting for Saki and townreading Diplomat quickly, when Antagon had the same stance as me, without voting for Saki.

That move to get past the whole coaching nonsense was town motivted for me, trying to move the discussion forward.

I agree with post 81 for obvious reasons.
238 is something i dont agree with. Explain how a person not wanting to be lynched is alignment indicative and not simply playstyle indicative. For all the reasons as to why people think future is scum, this isn't a very good one. Scum eouldnt want to get lynched this early either, imo. There is a reason for a scum future for that reason, that wasnt it.
Also didnt like your reaction in 275 and the subsequent apology in 285 i cant explain why, but something about that condescending tone i cant quite explain, it gives me a feeling that you try to diminish his case cause he might be on to something?

Null for me.
Saki, notscience, and Future will have to come after Game 5 of the ECF.

[DoctorPepper]

Saki.

Post 70 seems like an overreaction to a vote, much like all votes on him.
I saw the whole "Why do you want my opinion so much post" which is something I've been overlooking. Okay, clarification time, Saki this whole game is about giving your opinion and analyzing everyone else's.
A lot of Saki's posts kinda indicate that he has something to hide? Im getting that vibe. Like the aforementioned "why do you want my opinion?", his read list in 263 where he says on my read "I focus on townies cause they are more likely to slip" which is a weird way to phrase things. Even as a newbie, town has no reason to slip whatsoever, so him being worried about "focusing on newbies who have a higher tendency to slip" is in itself an ironic argument because only scum slip. The thing I find wrong about it is why would a "townie" be concerned with slipping.

87 what reaction were you hoping for when you posted 72?
209 why is being vocal more scum than town?
The reads list pretty much listed people who viewed him as scummy, as being scummy. Yeah, this is a newb town tell for me.
Your case on me:
First of all, the level of interaction I have in this game is pretty much minimal for everyone and Im inclined to think youre justbsaying that cause I voted for you. GM is right, but I hope Im proving her wrong now.
284 how is a condescending response a not very townish reaction when you yourself love tomrespond with jokes like "He's scum because I saw his role PM"?
286 is ironic, he tells Antagon that he is taking things too seriously when he himself has done this a lot, especially early n the day.
290
The part in read? The lynch on you that failed? I hate to break it to you but not all votes are meant to lynch and some votes are meant to pressure. I guess everyone doesnt realizes that my vote on you was and still is pressure. I had otten so behind on the game that I only realized you were going to be lynched when DDC said you were at L-1.
Btw. Intends to be lynched in order to achieve a higher goal is not the same as having the goal of being lynched. This is more of a misunderstanding rather than a misrepresentation.
I claimed you and Future were partaking in a mutual chainsaw defense. You defended him by attacking an attacker in Me, whike he defends how he views you as obvious newbtown by attacking (and subsequently labelling me as sure scum) me.

In short, Im having a hard time classifying whether most of these tells are newbtown or scum. For now, the vote stays, Im being thrown off the whole "higher tendency to slip thing"and the feeling that he's hiding something

[DoctorPepper]

Its only until 79 where GM actually starts to make relevant posts.¹ A bulk of the posts before that involved accusations of coaching, which barely make any sense¹ considering it was an off hand RVS remark¹ which barely counts² as coaching³. Funny thing is, its what spurred her tunneling of her main scum read, Future.⁴ The other part is IC explanation play. Funny thing, why would it strike you as strange when DDC said he played rolecop once, when this set up has no rolecop?⁵

Her whole "there arent any tells that go beyond newb to an actual alignment" in 133 seems logical at first. Then later she contradicts herself by saying in her reads that Slyther is "screaming newbtown".⁶

116 is worded quite awkwardly. "if I were a townie with a scum read on Saki"? Very odd emphasis on "if I were a townie". So, youre not a townie?⁷

I dont quite get how she made her read list.⁸ As I've stated she says Slyther is screaming newb town, while saying Saki is null because "this guy is a newb, hasnt dropped any real alignment tells".⁹ No explanation for The Antagon read.¹⁰ The Edos read makes no sense.¹ If a player has a known "scum meta", wouldnt said player avoid exhibiting traits from said playstyle?¹¹ Its like a read list for the sake of having a read list.¹

Again, I ask, what exactly about Future's willingness to be lynched made¹²

How is attacking players for playstyle "blatant townfishing cred" ?¹³

That being said, her case on Future makes the most sense out of all the cases on Future,¹⁴ such as the questioning of the holes in logic like in 107 by calling Future out for perceived scum tells, which players of both alignments actually do.

In any case, aside from that 116, Im comfortable putting her at null-leaning town to town. She does comment on most of the things happening here, her caseslook solid and they look like theyre legit scumhunting.¹⁵

1. Says you.
2. How do you quantify "barely counting" here?
3. Plus, doesn't even something that "barely counts" still count? So aren't you admitting that my accusations were at least slightly sound?
4. Funny?
5. It doesn't strike you as strange when someone goes out of their way to tell you they've been Scum before?
6. I said there weren't any alignment tells

from Saki

, though I could have worded that sentence much more clearly. Slyther is indeed screaming newbTown.
7. Sentence is intended to be read without emphasis. Indeed, at present I am not a townie with a scumread on Saki.
8. Off the top of my head.
9. The point?
10. On the contrary, stated reason is paranoia.
11. You'll begin to see that there are some things players just can't help displaying as certain alignments, particularly if you play an anon-alt game like Author Mafia.
12. Curious to see the end of this sentence.
13. It's not so much that he was attacking them for playstyle, it's that he was attacking them for not voting (which is largely a playstyle issue) in order to look like do-something Town.
14. I'm flattered. Interesting that you failed to mention my continued lack of answers to you.
15. Interesting.

Not much to say, GM.

Really? Why not?

2. Null point but is it really coaching when the only thing the guy says is "Have confidence in yourself" when it was obvious that said player was timid,
3. No, I think you were grasping at, straws there.
5. Well yes it does, but the point you made was about being the rolecop, which doesnt exist here. Null point.
6. Okay, that clarifies everything. You meant to say "no alignment tells on Saki" rather than "there are no newbtells which arealignment indicative" cause thats how I understood your statement.
7. The emphasis was in the phrase "If I were a townie" when the same sentence could have been easily stated as "If I had a scum read on Saki".
10. Paranoia/gut doesnt exactly register to me
12. What about Future's willingness to be lycnhed led to the unvote?
13. Conceded.
14. Dont understand, please restate.

[DoctorPepper]

Its only until 79 where GM actually starts to make relevant posts.¹ A bulk of the posts before that involved accusations of coaching, which barely make any sense¹ considering it was an off hand RVS remark¹ which barely counts² as coaching³. Funny thing is, its what spurred her tunneling of her main scum read, Future.⁴ The other part is IC explanation play. Funny thing, why would it strike you as strange when DDC said he played rolecop once, when this set up has no rolecop?⁵

Her whole "there arent any tells that go beyond newb to an actual alignment" in 133 seems logical at first. Then later she contradicts herself by saying in her reads that Slyther is "screaming newbtown".⁶

116 is worded quite awkwardly. "if I were a townie with a scum read on Saki"? Very odd emphasis on "if I were a townie". So, youre not a townie?⁷

I dont quite get how she made her read list.⁸ As I've stated she says Slyther is screaming newb town, while saying Saki is null because "this guy is a newb, hasnt dropped any real alignment tells".⁹ No explanation for The Antagon read.¹⁰ The Edos read makes no sense.¹ If a player has a known "scum meta", wouldnt said player avoid exhibiting traits from said playstyle?¹¹ Its like a read list for the sake of having a read list.¹

Again, I ask, what exactly about Future's willingness to be lynched made¹²

How is attacking players for playstyle "blatant townfishing cred" ?¹³

That being said, her case on Future makes the most sense out of all the cases on Future,¹⁴ such as the questioning of the holes in logic like in 107 by calling Future out for perceived scum tells, which players of both alignments actually do.

In any case, aside from that 116, Im comfortable putting her at null-leaning town to town. She does comment on most of the things happening here, her caseslook solid and they look like theyre legit scumhunting.¹⁵

1. Says you.
2. How do you quantify "barely counting" here?
3. Plus, doesn't even something that "barely counts" still count? So aren't you admitting that my accusations were at least slightly sound?
4. Funny?
5. It doesn't strike you as strange when someone goes out of their way to tell you they've been Scum before?
6. I said there weren't any alignment tells

from Saki

, though I could have worded that sentence much more clearly. Slyther is indeed screaming newbTown.
7. Sentence is intended to be read without emphasis. Indeed, at present I am not a townie with a scumread on Saki.
8. Off the top of my head.
9. The point?
10. On the contrary, stated reason is paranoia.
11. You'll begin to see that there are some things players just can't help displaying as certain alignments, particularly if you play an anon-alt game like Author Mafia.
12. Curious to see the end of this sentence.
13. It's not so much that he was attacking them for playstyle, it's that he was attacking them for not voting (which is largely a playstyle issue) in order to look like do-something Town.
14. I'm flattered. Interesting that you failed to mention my continued lack of answers to you.
15. Interesting.

Not much to say, GM.

Really? Why not?

2. Null point but is it really coaching when the only thing the guy says is "Have confidence in yourself" when it was obvious that said player was timid,
3. No, I think you were grasping at, straws there.
5. Well yes it does, but the point you made was about being the rolecop, which doesnt exist here. Null point.
6. Okay, that clarifies everything. You meant to say "no alignment tells on Saki" rather than "there are no newbtells which arealignment indicative" cause thats how I understood your statement.
7. The emphasis was in the phrase "If I were a townie" when the same sentence could have been easily stated as "If I had a scum read on Saki".
10. Paranoia/gut doesnt exactly register to me
12. What about Future's willingness to be lycnhed led to the unvote?
13. Conceded.
14. Dont understand, please restate.

[DoctorPepper]

This notscience is a completely different notscience from what Im used to.

I find it ironic that Im scummy for apparently trying to defend myself and not scumhunting where until recently Saki, whom you have a null read on, has basically defended himself and refused to give opinions. But I guess this is because Im an SE and he's a newbie and Im expected to perform at a higher level or some shit like that.
194 was ironic in the sense that apparently he seemed concerned with my supposed attempt to discredit him because a) I had no such intent and had just asked a question to hunt, which is what I was apparently avoiding and b) he himself made an attempt to discredit me with his last line.
Im guessing 217 is a decent read list. I am questioning exactly why Antagon hasnt raised anything from you, when his early post regarding Saki was essentially similar to kine, with the exception of a lack of a vote. Yet the main scum read on me was because of the whole Saki debacle.
241 yes you mentioned this before I did, the difference being is you only stated that there was fluff, not why you think there was fluff. I had no idea why exactly you had to point it out that you already said it, when you actually didnt.
260 you said the last 3 points were something youve said before. I agree with the last two, but when did you say the first of those last 3 points?
301 Already clarified with my discussion with Gm.

Aside from those, notscience has provided lots of attempts to scumhunt, such as questioning Antagon's response to the Saki scumread, questioning Future with his motives for wanting Antagon over me first. I do disagree with his argument on me, for the reasons I've already stated above, but essentially he's town

[DoctorPepper]

You said you would have answered at a better time. So what was the reason for the unvote

[DoctorPepper]

Fell asleep before I got to ISO Future, will do so later.

MOD: V/LA f rom June 3-5

[DoctorPepper]

Future

So you thought your RVS vote on Saki was good enough to keep, and like you made a huge turn around and said he was obviously newb town. What exactly made you realize for yourself that he is newb town, it it simply because of the O,GUS thing?
119 is a lie. You said in post 53 that what Saki is doing is suspicious and you still think your vote is in a good place. Yet you said in 119 that you never said Saki was scummy. If he was being suspicious, yet you never called him scummy,exactly what the fuck was he being suspicious for? Being townie?
130 calls people out for not voting, saying its not taking a stance? So simply stating your suspicions is not taking a stance? Votes are not an end all be all of opinions as many of us have pointed out. If anything, why is the vote the most powerful weapon if the goal was not to lynch when simple suspicions are enough? Ys voting implies opinions. You know what else? Opinions. (No shit sherlock)
178 how is being difficult town behavior when you said you wantedpeople to vote so their stances are known, i.e. so it would be easier to know their stances?
189 was strange, why the need to apologize specifically to Slyther when youre postings toward everyone else seems similar to how you address him. This feels like it came off later after the time he voted for you when you started to clamor for everyone to vote.
227 "Hence I went for 'I think you guys will buy Antagon-scum'. I had actual thing tompoint out" so thats an admission that you had nothing to point out before, yet I was your number 1 scum read at that point. See this is where Slyther's post means a lot, the way you worded it, you really were admitting you tried and failed to sell something that you knew wasnt true, like saying "You guys will

buy

Antagon scum at this point."
232 is a huge logical fallacy. You never concretely answered this but the implication is clear. Are you saying that if you flip town, it automatically means I will flip scum? So by that statement, there is an indication that that you knew our alignments before hand? You may ask, what is the scum motivation in this statement, simple. By saying that you want me lynched, its again another jab to get town cred, by saying "I want to be lynched, as long as you lynch this guy", it indicates the train of thought of "he cant be scum, this is how scum loses" in an attempt to turn this around.
291 its a ridiculous term to throw around when its simple chainsaw defense. It legitimate when a mutual defense is happening, in the case of you and Saki.
323 there are many things wrong with this. How do I need to be lynched because I posted IsOs, after I made it clear that I've only been participating at a level I myself am not happy with, because I was busy.

Yes its not a town tell. Is it a scum tell? You yourself said, its not a scum tell. Somi should be lynched for null tells for behavior both town and scum do?
Also how are my ISO's a way to save face as oppossed to a way to actually scumhunt, like many players here have been clamoring for. ISO's and reads are not done to "look town and save face", they are done to scumhunt and its ironic to hear this from a player who is so concerned with looking town.

Does this answer your question?
VOTE: Future
Yes I think your scum.

[DoctorPepper]

Btw, thats L-1.

[DoctorPepper]

Everyone I ISO'd, please answer the questions I gave, if I had given them to you

[DoctorPepper]

Attention grabber much? Hello mr bungle?

[DoctorPepper]

Im on a V/LA where I only have limited opportunities to access the site. I'm enrolling for college so Im kinda budy. When this all gets fixed, I will be here to answer your questions.

[DoctorPepper]

Gee, I got hammered while I was V/LA. Thanks. This blatant, undeserved suspicion of me will bite you back in the ass town. GG.

[DoctorPepper]

No need to say sorry Sakura, you did well

To town:
Conratu(

fuck you for ruining my scum record!!!

)lations town

I really should have checked if Saki was at L-3 before voting, that made my lynch.

Though wouldnt you guys have waited a little longer until my V/LA ended?

GG town you did well.

But now Im sad cause Im not 2-0 at scum anymore

[DoctorPepper]

im kind of a scum magnet, not that i dont like it or anything. Its more fun for me.

Well I must have a game with you that isnt in marathon then

[DoctorPepper]

This game was the first time I got lynched Day 1. And it continued for two more games.

[DoctorPepper]

Oh well it was fun to try anyway, I loved how ffery flipped her stances when i self-voted xD
I was all like "YES I CAN DO DIS!!" then all goes like "nope!"

[DoctorPepper]

NS, if we weren't hydra-ing I would so get my revenge on you and pitoli.

[DoctorPepper]

yes please GM

[DoctorPepper]

Gee, I got hammered while I was V/LA. Thanks. This

b

latant,

u

ndeserved

s

uspicion of me will bite you back in the ass town. GG.

No one ever noticed my WIFOM

[DoctorPepper]

Not really Sakura, thats the WIFOM part. Why would I say it?

Thanks GM, I did notice that my earlier posts suck. Idk why, when i started caring some people thought I was scummier for it, when I really was just trying to get back into the game