NG 1479: Somebody's Gonna Die! (OVER!)

[YurikoJasmine]

/confirm.

[YurikoJasmine]

mod: I think voidwalker unvoted.

@dritan: imo town can vote to apply pressure on someone, not only when you're really sure he's scum. It's not like we're L-2 already. I respect your choice of not voting but you should not accuse people of using his voting power. I also find it fishy that you're the defensive one while you're saying others are defensive. Whether it's a newbie thing idk. You asked about others' experiences but revealed none about yourself. For the record, Are you new to the game?

Vote: Dritan

see how it works? now tell me why you're not scum.

@drone: you came with a joke vote then unvote but have said nothing else. Any opinion on the issue?

@victor: don't misunderstand. I'm not completely aggreeing your point of voting espenonage. But I do see it weird that he had said that.

@espenonage: explain your #18.

I need to see more from others before I decide upon them

[YurikoJasmine]

btw I'm in Hong Kong so I may not reply at the time you expect me to.

[YurikoJasmine]

@dritan
You're phrasing your questions that make me feel like you're defensive. Plus I don't like your "I don't care what you say I'll just shut my ears and do what I like" attitude.

I asked because I don't know what kind of games you've played before but you are making some fishy possibly newbie behaviors.

I'm on my phone so can't quote now, but if you don't find one vote pressuring mind that you have two votes on you now. And I haven't seen some actual scumhunt from you yet. (I think)

@drone67
We need you to express your opinion. You have not really spoken yet.

[YurikoJasmine]

Dritan is on L-2.

[YurikoJasmine]

Any reads? Care to make a vote?

How about you? Any reads other than victor? Also, please explain your vote.

[YurikoJasmine]

I would vote for Dritan or Victor. I'm new with you guys as I am with you. But, normally in mafia games I usually go for the No Lynch. But, for some reason Dritan and Victor's argument makes me want to vote for one or the other. So for this

VOTE DRITAN

THIS WILL MAKE HIM L-1

wow I was gone for half a day now there's three pages... let me catch up.

[YurikoJasmine]

@HITD: i am against no lynch. Also I think it's far too early to put someone on L-1 given that some of us haven't spoken yet plus Espeonage is on LA.

[YurikoJasmine]

@Edos:

Drone RVS voted, saw that there was more to the game, unvoted, then left. I'd like him to contribute more.

Dritan is my next scum choice currently because of his Victor misrep, and mainly what everyone else is saying.

Just to clarify, do you mean your first scum choice is drone?

VW's hunch on a Victor-Dritan scumteam has no backing (albeit, by definition), but I don't like how he was fencing on his point. He only revoted after I questioned him on his hunch.

What's your read on him?

@HITD:

Why did you vote for Dritan if you wanted a no lynch? You said "for some reason Dritan and Victor's argument makes me want to vote for one or the other". Why Dritan but not Victor? What's the "some reason"?

Victor, if you have something clearly you vote them. It is a very rare event to find something such as that because Day One is like a piece of tape that has lost it's glue. Nothing usually sticks no matter how many times you try to stick it to something. Majority of the time it's a baseless accusations and arguing and joking. Can you hit scum? Yeah, but not as likely as hitting a townie without a proven scum slip or something.

I can't understand this post. Is it something to do with my English?

Also, really thinking about it, me and Dritan were both replacements in this game.

That's not true.

I

am the replacement. Does it change how you see me? I haven't seen your read of others besides Dritan and Victor by the way.

@jon:

no, English is my second language. My native tongue is Cantonese. I thought I had an adequate command of English but I could have been wrong.

@Dritan:

care to explain how this phrasing of questions makes me looks defensive ?

i didnt said you were implying that everyone questioning you is scum but apparently so it looks into your mind . just after I made some questions to you and what happend ? you put your vote on me

this sounded defensive to me.

and if I say you are scum how are you going to prove me that I you are town ? you can keep saying all day long you are town but wont make you look more townish . and it isnt I'll just shut my ears attitude but it is I will prove you I am town with my game not just keep saying I am town because ......

The only way I can prove myself town is to scumhunt and express opinions towards other players, no just to drill on one person non-stop. I would love to see some scumread and hunting from you. Who do you think is scum and why? (except victor, we all know you views on him already)

@HITD Where was Espe defensive? I'm not seeing it. Btw, are you good with that abbreviation?

Regarding a Dritan/Victor scumteam, I seriously doubt they would try to pull this off together. It draws too much attention to them.

Nevermind about the real defensive, so much reading bogged down my mind and trying to see who wrote what and how it was written. The only thing he did was that confusing statement.

Also, I don't mind being called HITD.

so you said Espeonage was defensive twice and now just trying to just hide that with just nevermind. have you even read this topic ? to me you are hitting in the dark trying to kill someone without even caring who

This I disagree. If he was going to kill someone he would have go after the one with the highest votes first I think. Plus he didn't actually vote for Espeonage. But I agree his vote on you was weird.

VOTE: HiddenInTheDark

this game hasnt change at all tbh . active gets lynched , scums stay in the shadow

This. If you think the scum is in the shadow why do you vote HITD? You did say you didn't want to vote anyone until you are sure he is scum. How sure are you that HITD is scum?

@Victor:

I left the forum immediately after i noted that he was on L-2. I did not see the vote casted by HITD. Had I seen it I would have unvoted.

PEdit: Dritan I believe your claim and if you flip town then we can look at your wagon tomorrow. Hopefully there will be no hammer until Drone/Espe have posted their thoughts.

You believe his claim but decided to vote for him? Now this is starting to look weird. I'll still stick to my Dritan scum vote though. I'm ok with lynching him today. (not too fast though)

P-edit: Victor I think jon is saying that it should be the one who holds the hammer to ask for a claim, not one who is already on the wagon. I personally don't see this as a problem in this case cause I have an intend to lynch Dritan in Day 1 anyway, but I could see his point.

[YurikoJasmine]

scumread so far:
scummy
-Dritan

(slightly) scummy
-Drone (lurking/ missing)
-Victor (i'm tired of seeing all the arguments he has with Dritan and HITD plus the vote on Dritan despite "beliving him")
-HITD (keep on emphasizing himself as replacement thus VT, lots of arguments but very few scumhunt. Plus the L-1 vote rightaway with little argument)
-VW (said very little, voted only when asked to)

towny
-Edos (one of the few who actually does some scumhunting. but I need to see more from him)

null
-Espeonage (on LA)
-jon (would love to see some scumread from him)

tl;dr: I'm ok with lynching Dritan Day 1. I'd love to see some scumread esp. from HITD, Dritan and jon.

[YurikoJasmine]

Plus I'm really sick of reading all those arguments between Dritan/ Victor and HITD/ Victor.

[YurikoJasmine]

Nawh, I loved your disclaimer.

HITD isn't scum actually. I think I'd prefer this lynch now:
VOTE: Voidedwalker1234

What suddenly makes you think HITD isn't scum?

Why vote for VW while you say in #152 that victor dritan and HITD was your choice? Why not vote victor instead?

[YurikoJasmine]

@jon: you thought I was fishy before asking me if English is my first language. If you thought my English was fine why did you find that I was fishy and why would my language background matter? After I told you it's my second language you're convinced I'm town? Please explain. What was fishy about me and why the sudden change in read?

[YurikoJasmine]

I mean it would have made sense if you think I'm fishy because of poor language and this the question and then the shift. But you're saying you asked the question because my English was so good. Do you mean I'm fishy because I use good English? If not, why do you think it was important to ask me and would the answer change your read?

I'm on my phone I'm not sure if I'm phrasing it correctly.

[YurikoJasmine]

*thus the question

[YurikoJasmine]

How do you read town from his content, but lurky scum from VW's? (excluding the fact that Espe's essentially been V/LA)

Espe looked to be attempting to start scum hunting before his accident. You can't say the same for VW.

I disagree on the part of "attempt" to scum hunting coz he hasn't done anything yet. Still he's less scummy IMO coz he's on LA for a reason that I tend to believe instead of lurking like drone. This the null read on him and scummy read on drone for me. I hope to see some input from espe soon.

[YurikoJasmine]

Why the vote on Drone if you think Yuriko is reading fishy to you?

umm... I only have one vote.

Besides, I asked her a question I wanted answered to that'd help me decide how better to handle her.

I understand you have one vote but it just seems weird to me that you would pick Drone and not the person you feel is fishy. Still, why the vote on Drone?

I was giving her a chance to reply. It seems you think people have to act in exact ways or they're scum.

@jon:

FYR these are the two posts that makes me (and i believe also others) to believe that your thinking I'm "fishy" has something to do with my language. I'm buying your reasoning of thought process for now. Although you still haven't explain why you thought I was "fishy" or leaning scum.

@Edos, HITD, Yuki

- Any reason none of you asked for a claim off Dritan once he was put to L-1?

I'm of the opinion that no claims should be given unless someone states intent to hammer once the person has been at L-1. Hammering without a claim is, again, an admission of guilt.

One of {Victor, HITD, Dritan} is scum for this interaction. I'll actually explain my reasoning later today.

@Edos:

I'd love to listen to your reasoning. I'm still struggling on whether they're just being newbie overreactive coz it seems very weird for scum to so openly going aginst each other in so early a stage. Despite that Dritan has shown defensive reaction towards others (including me) and HITD's soft claiming is making me uneasy.

JonH -

Not seen much I dislike off his posting. A little in the background early on though.

I haven't really seen anything that makes me feel good about his alignment on way or the other yet.

@Victor:

I cannot seem to understand these two sentences. Could you explain?

Leaning Town: Dritan For his claim of VT, whether it could be false. I believe it's true.

@HITD:

I'm feeling uneasy about how fast you switch you view of thinking Dritan is scum to leaning town just after and just because of his VT claim. Everyone can claim to be a VT. It doesn't really mean much. Unless of course you have other reasons to believe he's not scum? Btw, I'm not sure if you saw it, but he was not the replacement. I am the replacement.

btw, Dritan has gone missing.

[YurikoJasmine]

@MOD can we possibly get a prod on Drone?

Done; Voidwalker has also earned a prod for 36h of inactivity.

Sixth Vote Count of Day One:

Dritan - 3 (YurikoJasmine, Voidwalker1234, VictorDeAngelo)
Drone67 - 1 (jon_h61)
Edosurist - 1 (Espeonage)
HiddenInTheDark - 1 (Dritan)
VictorDeAngelo - 1 (HiddenInTheDark)
Voidwalker1234 - 1 (Edosurist)

Not Voting - 1 (Drone67)

With nine alive, it will take five votes to lynch.

victor voting for dritan, dritan voting for HITD, HITD voting for victor. Interesting.
Espe's vote was from #17. I believe it's RVS vote.

[YurikoJasmine]

@jon:

ok.
I'll check out the game if i have time.

[YurikoJasmine]

it often makes me look like a bandwagoner, which I somewhat am, except I form my own theories on the reasons why they are doing it like the Victor/Dritan bussing scumteam theory. So, it that good enough of a post to deflect any suspicion on me?

@VW:

You don't have to make really big posts, but we would like to see your thoughts, not just the fact that you agree with us. As for a start, I see from this that you have some theories on--? Ok, I thought you mean you have a theory on why victor/dritan is scum on my first read of this post but now I don't understand this last part, could you explain? Also, we always treasure other's opinions. Even if we have same views we can always see different things or reasoning from the game.

Dritan - Slightly scummy for what he did in the Beginning, now more null because of the VT claim.
Drone67 - Null, because he hasn't posted recently.
Edosurist (SE) - Null, leaning towards town because he does seam helpful, mostly null.
Espeonage [IC] - Town, he has been helping lead the town mostly.
HiddenInTheDark - Town, sincerely been trying to help.
jon_h61 (SE) - Town, pretty much leading the town.
VictorDeAngelo - Scummy for his tunneling of Dritan in the beginning, his sudden switch from Dritan because of a VT Claim is extremely scummy.
Voidwalker1234 - Scummy for lurking, even though that's his play style.
YurikoJasmine - Null, need to see more drastic stuff.

There you go, a list of my opinions on everyone, even me.

Why do you think drone is null because he hasn't posted but espe is town because he is leading the town? He hasn't say much until page 8. His last post before his LA was #29, until he reappears in #156. I'll have to disagree with the "leading" part. He also hasn't given us his scumread yet.

Edos is helpful but null? What makes you feel that he is null?

Victor's vote and scumread are both still on dritan. What was the switch?

lastly, what is the "drastic stuff" you want to see from me?

Please answer my questions. I'm having a hard time understanding you.

@victor:

I'm saying that it's interesting, not that it is very much suspicious. I'll have to check the sequence and the content of the vote to decide if it looks suspicious.

@Yuriko (#46): Townreads can be just as important as scum reads, I was sticking him in the town pool for a bit, RVS is where you start to build reads, so that is what I was setting out to do.
@Edo (#48): I don't like the lining up lynches on page 2. The tone also didn't suggest any sort of joking so scumpile for now.

@espe:

Agree on the townread important part, but I think it was a bit early to form any read by that time. It could have been saved for later analysis I think.

Page 3:

Not seeing the Drone stuff people are talking about as scummy.

What is the "drone stuff" we were talking about besides the fact that he was missing and we all hope he came out and speak?

[YurikoJasmine]

drone. he made exactly 4 posts and is gone for more than 72 hours.

mod: any news from him?

[YurikoJasmine]

scumread so far:
scummy
-Dritan

(slightly) scummy
-Drone (lurking/ missing)
-Victor (i'm tired of seeing all the arguments he has with Dritan and HITD plus the vote on Dritan despite "beliving him")
-HITD (keep on emphasizing himself as replacement thus VT, lots of arguments but very few scumhunt. Plus the L-1 vote rightaway with little argument)
-VW (said very little, voted only when asked to)

towny
-Edos (one of the few who actually does some scumhunting. but I need to see more from him)

null
-Espeonage (on LA)
-jon (would love to see some scumread from him)

tl;dr: I'm ok with lynching Dritan Day 1. I'd love to see some scumread esp. from HITD, Dritan and jon.

this is strange. I am the most scummy one but you havent give any reason for me like you have done with the others ?
and where Edos has done scumhunting because i cant see it ?

#60, 73 and the later 152 show that he's making sense of others in the game. As for you, I thought I had posted enough to prove my doubts towards you so I didn't find it necessary to state my reasons.

Please answer my question in #147, and I would very much like to see some scumread from you.

[YurikoJasmine]

@victor:

I meant that VW was voting for dritan thinking he was scum then suddenly decided that he's not scum because of his claim.

I thought it was interesting because it reminded me of Eros saying you three are in a triangle or something. He hasn't explained that though.

[YurikoJasmine]

*edos. I hate autocorrect in iphone

[YurikoJasmine]

@HITD I was asking for whether you have any reason other than the claim to believe that he is town. Your posts have proved that you don't. Fair enough.

@VW if you were town, you're not helping us much here. I'm not liking you very much.

[YurikoJasmine]

Drone67 - is he going to be replaced ?
Edosurist (SE)- was expecting more activity from him since he is a SE , null atm
Espeonage [IC] - nothing form him until except few useless posts , expected more from IC probably he really has problems in rl but who knows ? and he never fully answered to the accusations for that "slip" ( when looked like he was trying to imply that he was town )
HiddenInTheDark - leaning more to scum for bandwagoning on me and for trying to persuade Victor to vote me saying that I was the safest lynch since in day 1 is quite possible to lynch town
jon_h61 (SE) - leaning town on him until now . his overall play makes me think he is town
VictorDeAngelo - still unsure about him . the strong debate started just for a small thing and turn to be a big mess .
Voidwalker1234 - has he posted anything useful ? lurking and saying that he is defeatist and cant explain himself . does it even makes sense ?
YurikoJasmine - null until now

and to answer Yoriko about how sure I am that HITD is scum . - not quite sure but trying to persuade the others to lynch someone in day 1 is damn scummy to me

you said before that you wouldn't vote until you're sure someone is scum. That's why i assume you must have some solid reasons to think that he is scum to vote for him.

[YurikoJasmine]

@Yuriko - i was L -1 and i had to put vote in case before someone decide to hammer me. and i clearly stated my reasons for that vote , didnt I ?

@Victor - like I said i am still quite unsure about Victor . he belives my claim but still wants to lynch me , thats like wtf ??

for the moment

UNVOTE: HiddenInTheDark

Why the unvote? Do you still think he's scum or you've lost your "gut feelings"?

And that's why I'm defeatist. People don't like me much because even when I'm town I'm scum, and I have hard times explaining myself. So, who are we going to lynch? Also, UNVOTE: Dritan

Why unvote?

--this game is getting more and more confusing.

[YurikoJasmine]

V/LA until Thursday morning HK time (GST+8)

I'll still be reading, but may not have time to reply. @ me for any urgent issues.

[YurikoJasmine]

I mainly have a list of people I won't back a lynch on rather than will.

Mind to share?

[YurikoJasmine]

I'll have to extend my V/LA till Saturday.

Sorry about that, busy mid-term week.
I'll be around, just may not post. @ me for urgent requirements.

I'm a bit lag behind in this post. Reading through.

[YurikoJasmine]

I was so sure dritan was scum, but chitmap looks very town to me.

I'm worried about void. I really don't like the way he plays and I'm not sure how he can help in day 2.
I need to re-read everything and think. Right now I think I'd vote void but I need to check the current votecount first coz all this people just replace in I don't really want the day to end just yet.

Whether or not I'll vote void depends on whether I find someone more scummy.

[YurikoJasmine]

I'm serious about being a defeatist, because fully and truly getting lynched Day 1 in every one of the games you play makes it so that you just know that you are going to mess up somehow and get lynched, it's good if you're a jester but not if you're town, so with that I guess I'll claim as it is probably the only way for discussion to happen, so here it is. Roleclaim: VT. Now I feel that you guys still shouldn't trust me but, it's the best I can do...

I'm writing on a post, but I can't help to reply to this first.

That's not true. You've inverted the logic. You're always getting lynched day 1 because you messed up the day 1, and if you don't mess up of course we have no reason lynching you (assuming you're town). You shouldn't think that "well I'll mess up and get lynch anyway so let me just mess up".

I have to agree with jon you are having a logic close to a young student who keeps on thinking "oh I'll fail the test anyway so why study?". One piece of advice on your next game-- Try participating. You'll get hold of it soon.

[YurikoJasmine]

first of all, let me start with the conclusion.

I have an intent to hammer void.

He is the scummiest people right now imo and even if he were town his attitude won't help us on day 2. Still I'm still hoping we can get some input from him before he dies.
My reasoning to wait is that since we have a fixed deadline for each day we can make the best use out of our day to get more info before getting into the night. Correct me if I'm wrong.

mod: could you state again the deadline and its time? It's a bit hard to understand esp. I'm in Hong Kong so the deadline time is important to me.

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@void:

You haven't answered any of my questions in #191. You also did not explain your unvote (of Dritan).

More prods, yay.

@Chitmap: I do know that lurking is bad, but I have a hard time coming up with stuff to say, and occasionally I will post my current theories and then go back to lurking, and there is also the thing of that I can't scumhunt, I know how to do it, but I'm not aggressive with my playstyle, my playstyle is me lurking voting who I feel if the scummiest. And really right now I don't who's the scummiest because everyone is getting replaced. I can see that most people suspect me, but I could somewhat be seen as newb town, but I also can't because I've played lots of mafia. Other than that, I don't know, still feel that Victor is slightly scummy for his tunneling on Dritan, but Dritan got replaced, which more or less makes that null. Great. But, I'll still do this VOTE: VictordeAngelo because I really don't like his initial tunneling on Dritan, at least what I consider tunneling which is the repeated focusing and attacking a person while ignoring everything else just about.

Do you mean you think victor is the scummiest? why do you vote for someone who is "slightly null" (#272)?

You know if you know that your attitude is going to get you lynched day 1 and you're enjoying doing nothing and just lurking you can just speculate a game instead of joining one. The point of joining the game is to

join

.

I worry about sounding scummy because I don't want to be lynched day one another ****ing time, almost everysingle time I play the game I get lynched day1, no excuses so I end up becoming defeatist knowing that I'm going to do something stupid and end up getting my self lynched a little VT because I seemed like the scummiest because I couldn't defend my self properly, so nw I'm at L-1, and I say go ahead, lynch me.

You shouldn't be defending yourself. You should be finding scum. When are you going to understand that?

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How much wood could a woodchuck chuck?

@jon:

Is this some kind of English joke? I can't understand it.

Why do you care so much about the site that void said he had played in? He already said that the games were deleted already and it's clear he didn't want to answer.

I'd almost be willing to go out on a limb and say that's our scum team, but we can only lynch one a day. So I'll focus my attention on Void at this time.

Do you mean void and edos?

For some reason I thought you meant edos when I read this.
Why suddenly think espe is scum? you said you thought he was town at least three times. I don't get your logic.

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@espe:

You said you were looking for town reads. Any to share just yet? And please do explain. Only giving out their names ain't helping us with following your logic.

I see more IIOA than actual reads.

This I have to agree unless you start explaining things. Coz I can't read your mind.
And why are you always speculating us?

Newbie towns are always worried about sounding town. Which while not good practice, is incredibly common.

I feel like Void will be a mislynch as a result. His play similar to many other recent newbie towns that I've seen. Tbh, his play as scum should become apparent after a night phase if he was to have some coaching, even from another newbie. I'd save lynching void for an undetermined later date.
And RC's point about not addressing lurking: Every player that falls behind faces an uphill battle to get back.

@Case on me. I've yet to look at Dritan, and will probably do that this evening. And I'm not ready to mount an offense against your slot, mainly because I don't feel I have the presence to make an impact in this day phase. I have been out of it, yes, but lurking is not indicative of alignment. If I'd started lurking upon coming under pressure, then that would be a different story, but it was pretty much the opposite.
And why wouldn't I be dismissive, my iso is tiny. Pushing aside the fact that that isn't a good thing for the state of the game, it does mean that anything I've been thinking is super easy to find.

Btw guys. At the bottom of the page is a function that lets you search for a single players posts and read them in isolation (iso).

Which one are you more afraid of? A mislynch of someone that we know won't help us in day 2 anyway, or a no lynch?

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@HITD:

How could you have made the deadline wrong? And you have kind of stopped scumhunting and only defending yourself. IGMEOY.

@Chit I voted for him because I thought he and Victor were scummy with the argument they had. I voted Dritan as he acted more scummy than Victor was at the time. Then, he was at L-3 I believe and roleclaimed VT. Yeah, it's easy to call because no one can question you but, it wasn't like he was at L-1 and decided to out himself as VT. He was at I think it was L-3 at the time and he outed his role and people have came back from V/LA and the talks continued and it found some flags on others that probably looked town before hand.

No. He was on L-2 and victor was considering to put him back to L-1. I'm not saying that he was doing the right thing, but the fact that you have forgotten about this surprised me coz you were on a big debate about this and I thought you should have known better.

Your vote is still on victor. You still think he's scummy? any more reasons besides his voting after "believing" dritan's claim?

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Just finished reading! So far this is my thoughts on things and a few questions from me too.
- Yuriko is really leaning town for me, I like your reasoning and questioning, really makes sense.
- I'm not quite sure about SafetyDance, RedCoyote as well as Espeonage, but I will try to "read them out" haha
- HITD's reasoning somehow can't convince me.
- Victor appeared to be calm with questions and really good at reasoning too. However, I don't understand how you said you believed Dritan's claim and still didn't shift your vote then. I know you said you don't want to lynch any PR day 1 but Dritan was very close to being lynched though.
- Jon seemed to me that he is trying to scum-hunting so, leaning Town.
- HITD and Voidwalker are my current scumspects, but it may change as the game progresses.

@Voidwalker As you said in post #200, you've played a fair amount of Mafia before. I think you do know that lurking is not a good thing to do, right? Because whether you're scum or town, it usually draws suspicion to you. Also, I think you sure have opinions when you read, so I hope to see more from you because keeping silent like that is just weird in a game like Mafia.

@HITD About you voting for Dritan earlier, I still don't really get it. You voted for him, then said you believed his claim and unvote. Why did you decided to believe Dritan's claim? He just said it and you unvoted, because if memory serves, Dritan didn't really explain much about his claim. I'm just curious so hope you don't mind.

@chitmap:

what reasoning of HITD are you not convinced of?

your point about victor is not understood. Do you mean it is strange that he asked him to claim or it is strange that he believed his claim or it is strange that he believed his claim but voted for him?

why do you think void is scum? are you just agreeing with everyone else?

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@red:

can you explain a bit more about your views on jon? I don't seem to understand why you're torn on him.
Also, any comments on chitmap himself?



scumread so far:

scummy

-VW

(slightly) scummy

-HITD [voted for victor, and stuck to it without further reasoning. A lot of defending, little of scumhunting.]
-Espeonage [What? I couldn't recall anything from him even after re-reading all the posts.]

towny

-Edos (Red) [towny for both before and after replacement. I like red's reasoning, although I may not agree with him fully.]
-Victor [he's been actively scumhunting after I suspected him.]
-jon [he makes clear stances and nice reasoning.]

null

-Drone (SafetyDance) [I'm liking SD's reasoning but I hope I could see more from him before I can say I'm sure.]
-Dritan (chitmap) [some of my questions are not cleared yet. waiting for reply.]

[YurikoJasmine]

@mod:

nevermind, I typed that line before you posted the votecount.
Reworded it anyway to make things clearer. -Flay

[YurikoJasmine]

@espe:

And why are you always

speculating

(lurking on) us?

I have no idea why I used that word. I thought it meant [watching from the side].

[YurikoJasmine]

@void:

I am a lurker by nature, I watch and wait for when someone does something vote worthy, then I vote for them, I let everyone else do the hunting, while I wait and see what happens.

right, I get it. would you still be playing this way were you not lynch/ nightkilled today?

[YurikoJasmine]

I'm on my way home, will read when arrive.

mod:

why am I getting a prod? I just posted less than 12 hours ago?

[YurikoJasmine]

Oh yeah,

I'll hammer void,

thanks to his "I'll just sit back tomorrow even if I survive tonight" attitude. I most definitely don't want him in day 2 even if he was town (which I highly doubt)

how should I do this? Hammer now or wait till deadline is close?

[YurikoJasmine]

Standard practice is to post intent to hammer, then to wait for the person to be hammered to post final reads and claim if they haven't yet.

Some people on this site will policy lynch you if you hammer without letting them claim unless they refused to and couldn't/didn't make it back before deadline.

in my eyes both is done. but since the deadline will be extended 24 hours i'll just get my sleep and do it tomorrow ok?

[YurikoJasmine]

Checking in, starting reading now.

Initial questions if you care to get back to me while I'm catching up - yes I'm likely to find the answers by reading, yes it'll be useful if you add something here to help me out as I don't have too long.


(Cherry-picking the more experienced players and the top voted player for now)

(Espeonage)
- As the most experienced player here I'd be interested to hear you outline why you voted Edosurist 16 days ago and haven't changed your vote since then?

(jon_h61)
-You were the first to vote for Voidwalker1234 (assuming Mr.Flay reports votes on players in chronological order) - what was it that convinced you to put your vote on him more than a week ago?

(RedCoyote)
- You're a replacement as well and started by a full review of the thread ending up with your vote also going to VoidWalker1234 what is the single thing that makes him a better choice for your vote than the others?

(Voidwalker1234)
- You changed your vote a couple of times at the start of the game but are now voting VictorDeAngelo after your preferred scum read Dritan was replaced - you have both SE players in your vote list - what have they missed about VictorDeAngelo that you've picked up on? You moved your vote from Dritan when he was replaced - what is it about chitmap2510's play that makes you feel they are town more than Dritan's play did?



I'm GMT so more later on this evening after I get through the thread.

I hate to say it but this post looks very much IIOA (information instead of analysis) to me. Care to share some views and opinions on those acts?

[YurikoJasmine]

@matti:

but there is less than 12 hours left already.

it's midnight in hk so i can't wait for few more hours sorry guys i hope mod doesn't post the lynch scene too soon.

vote: void

[YurikoJasmine]

@ Yuriko Happy Scumday!

I almost got lynched once a long time ago because I told a scum read "I hate to say this, but..."

Some scum tells are made up on the spot, I think.

can't understand your post. so you said that phrase to a scum and he lynched you? why?

[YurikoJasmine]

I need to think. May not have time to do a through read till tomorrow

[YurikoJasmine]

V/LA till Tuesday night GMT+8

[YurikoJasmine]

this is not intended to stir discussion, merely a disclaimer

there is a political situation going on concerning the Taiwanese student movement against the commercial agreement with the Mainland Chinese government. It has been going on for awhile but on 24/3 the situation intensified when the Taiwanese police brutally removed protestors in Taiwan. So far as Hong Kong students we have not decided what to do with it. If you're interested to know more google it yourselves.

right now I'm very busy dealing with all these political real life events and I hope to squeeze my time to be back to participate but right now real life (lives) have to come first

[YurikoJasmine]

@jon:

he was asking genuine questions, participating and responding to others accordingly. His play style was more liked compared to dritan's.

[YurikoJasmine]

@Yuri, when you hammered VW was it only due to the time limit or did you have some scum reads on VW? If you did, what are they?

He was a lurking scum to me because of his refusing to participate. I considered the possibility that he could just be a defensive player but after my asking him whether he would participate in day 2 he said no and so I thought at worse he would just be a mislynch that no one would really miss. Plus the deadline was really close and that was midnight in HK I didn't want to miss the deadline and NL so I hammered him a bit earlier.

[YurikoJasmine]

@Yuri Okay I understand with your different time zone things get hairy for you and makes complete sense and I see he made a direct line to you at 299 when you asked on 297. Is this the part you were speaking about?

yes and I think it's obvious enough.

[YurikoJasmine]

I planned to get online yesterday night but a heavy rain/hail situation put HK into chaos. Reading.

[YurikoJasmine]

I'm sorry but I'm not sure I can keep up with all the posts I've missed.

mod: please replace me.

look forward to playing another game with you guys in the future!
and I'll be following the post when I have time. See you endgame.

[YurikoJasmine]

Ok I really have horrible reads

[YurikoJasmine]

The dead chat is full of people being hilariously wrong: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/35BBTr5tTb4E

I can imagine you laughing so hard when reading it LOL