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Post Post #5 (isolation #0) » Sun Dec 11, 2016 9:47 am

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Howdy.
VOTE: Charloux
This is always scum.
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Post Post #11 (isolation #1) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 3:29 am

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Howdy Mew! Let's hope this time you don't gloss over obvious scum!
@DBW: I only spoke first because no one else spoke before me.
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Post Post #13 (isolation #2) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 5:30 am

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OH MY FUCKING GOSH CHARLOUX ARE YOU SERIOUS?
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Post Post #17 (isolation #3) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 10:34 am

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Yo where's the IC?
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Post Post #20 (isolation #4) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 4:44 pm

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Aren't you supposed to make an IC post?
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Post Post #26 (isolation #5) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 5:56 pm

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In post 19, Accountant wrote:Actually, I like the Gamma Emerald wagon(for reasons other than the fact that it's a page 1 wagon, that is). His enthusiastic tone seems forced.

@Pep: I like early pressure wagons. I think it's a great way to kickstart the game and get the ball rolling, as well as teasing reactions out of people. What about you?
I'm pretty sure I was quite enthusiastic in my last Newbie with you, so I don't get how you can think it's forced.
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Post Post #62 (isolation #6) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:35 am

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We can't tell which specific roles are in play until some people claim. Until then, don't worry about it.
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Post Post #66 (isolation #7) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 2:26 pm

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I can see that.
I'll try to form a solid assessment on the content we have so far soon.
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Post Post #71 (isolation #8) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 3:55 pm

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I think ny is SRing Accountant for IC posting tbh
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Post Post #90 (isolation #9) » Wed Dec 14, 2016 10:52 am

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I'm going to try to adress some things. For now, Ramcius' paranoia feels towny.
@ny: The game being shorter if Accountant wasn't posting is more indicative of Accountant being town imo
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Post Post #92 (isolation #10) » Wed Dec 14, 2016 10:55 am

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I'm saying scum has less motivation to provide more content.
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Post Post #101 (isolation #11) » Wed Dec 14, 2016 7:42 pm

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I am in agreement with Ramcius here: mafia are usually very passive, I feel in Newbies especially. I've seen scum win by not putting themselves out there much. That's why I drive people to post sometimes by specifically hunting their activity.
That's quite a lot of words for one simple point. I definitely feel Ramcius is town currently for thinking similarly to me.
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Post Post #102 (isolation #12) » Wed Dec 14, 2016 7:59 pm

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In post 71, Gamma Emerald wrote:I think ny is SRing Accountant for IC posting tbh
On a look back I was both right and wrong here: he was SRing the CONTENT of the IC post.
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Post Post #103 (isolation #13) » Wed Dec 14, 2016 8:15 pm

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Ramcius

VVD, ny

Accountant, Mewtaph

Charloux, Pepcho

DBW

My reads after rereading
VOTE: DBW
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Post Post #142 (isolation #14) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 6:30 am

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In post 105, Accountant wrote:Gamma, talk to me about VVD. I have a nullread on him and I want to know why you think he's town.
Hadn't responded to this yet because I have notes on what I saw in my catchup. VVD's concern about Charloux's hammer threat seemed towny.
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Post Post #143 (isolation #15) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 6:44 am

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btw I deleted my notes on accident so I just have my rainbow list to go off of from there.
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Post Post #151 (isolation #16) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 4:29 pm

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In post 147, Van_Veacesalv_Dulca wrote:Yep, so I already feel out of my depth in this game :/ Sorry everyone for being inactive, I have been a little unreliably attached to the internet for the last 2-3 days.
In post 65, Accountant wrote:@Van: So, to be clear, you think that forming lynches on players is okay, but you think mindlessly hopping onto wagons is bad, right?
Yes, I think mindless wagon hopping is bad. Forming Lynches is more case by case dependent. If I think someone is town, but people are forming a lynch on them and I can't understand the argument, I will become suspicious of those players, and equally so those that vote for the player without adding their own thoughts.

I still hold my suspicions on Charloux, and Accountant, though could someone correct me if I am wrong on Accountants [quote="In post 83 but is this an example of wine in front of me? I don't fully understand the concept, but the only other game I played (different site), people told me wine in front of me was scummy because it reduces the ability to properly argue against it or something along those lines.

I am also suspicious of Gamma for town reading me? I didn't think I had done enough of anything to form a solid read on me. - Nevermind, sorry, I missed a few posts it seems I haven't decided if this point is mute yet though I am leaning no, that seems very little to go off of in my opinion

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I understand the concern about the townread, but what I did was I formed an opinion on every player in my catch-up, no exceptions. Your concern actually makes me think you're town even more.
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Post Post #166 (isolation #17) » Sat Dec 17, 2016 5:50 pm

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In post 165, Mewtaph wrote:
In post 90, Gamma Emerald wrote:@ny: The game being shorter if Accountant wasn't posting is more indicative of Accountant being town imo
Then why is Accountant null on your readlist?
ny's reasoning was that if Accountant hadn't posted the game would be shorter amd she was scum for that and I felt the logic was off. My catchup was based on content, not activity level, so that caused a mismatch.
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Post Post #183 (isolation #18) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 12:56 pm

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Please come up with better reasons than lynching a lurker for DBW. I've seen him lurk out before as town.
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Post Post #185 (isolation #19) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 2:47 pm

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In post 184, nydushermain wrote:
In post 183, Gamma Emerald wrote:Please come up with better reasons than lynching a lurker for DBW. I've seen him lurk out before as town.
Something about this post seems really scummy. Can't quite place my tongue on why though...
The fact I'm voting someone while the meta suggests they are town? I'm voting him based on content. The meta is not enough of a counterpoint.
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Post Post #189 (isolation #20) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 5:23 pm

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That's some bad posting and I expect you to unvote Accountant, ny.
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Post Post #191 (isolation #21) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 5:58 pm

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Look at what you said about Accountant's meta. You contradict yourself.
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Post Post #193 (isolation #22) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 6:15 pm

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Okay then that makes more sense.
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Post Post #197 (isolation #23) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 6:30 pm

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Okay ny is def town.
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Post Post #226 (isolation #24) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 9:18 pm

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Yo
Ramcius, VVD, and ny are obvtown
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Post Post #229 (isolation #25) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 9:23 pm

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In post 228, Ramcius wrote:
In post 226, Gamma Emerald wrote:Yo
Ramcius, VVD, and ny are obvtown
why VVD and Ny obv town? VVD is another lurker without anything to read from, and Ny giving so many pings right now
VVD's concern about my TR is town
ny's use of meta is towny
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Post Post #233 (isolation #26) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 9:28 pm

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The way ny used meta doesn't feel like a scum use, also the fact he went back after realizing his analysis was off.
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Post Post #237 (isolation #27) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 9:37 pm

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Thanks for that
But if ny and Accountant are going to 1v1 I'm voting Accountant.
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Post Post #240 (isolation #28) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 9:45 pm

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I deleted my notes accidentally so I don't know my exact reasoning. I really just hope one more person towntells so I can PoE the game.
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Post Post #243 (isolation #29) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 9:49 pm

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I believe I scumread Pep for SRing Accountant for IC posting
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Post Post #245 (isolation #30) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 9:51 pm

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In post 242, Ramcius wrote:so, your reads haven't changed after all this discussion? Cause that was post 103, now we at 240
Some TRs have gotten stronger but my SRs are still similar.
Though tbqh I think scum is just letting my and Accountant slap fight. I want more from Charloux, Pepcho, and DBW
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Post Post #247 (isolation #31) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 9:52 pm

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In post 244, nydushermain wrote:
In post 243, Gamma Emerald wrote:I believe I scumread Pep for SRing Accountant for IC posting
That was me. But it wasn't because of the IC posting, but the content of it. You noted that before.
No I believe I saw that in Pepcho's second post.
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Post Post #249 (isolation #32) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 9:53 pm

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I really don't like the hedging from DBW in the second post.
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Post Post #251 (isolation #33) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 9:54 pm

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I play different strategies each game. This is a townhunting game.
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Post Post #253 (isolation #34) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 9:56 pm

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I have seen a pattern in my scumhunting where I can peg at least 1 scum. I can cite a few times if you want.
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Post Post #254 (isolation #35) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 9:56 pm

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In post 252, nydushermain wrote:Is there a particular reason why?
Because my SRs are not as solid as my TRs.
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Post Post #256 (isolation #36) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 10:17 pm

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@Mewtaph do you still want me to explain reads, if so which ones?
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Post Post #259 (isolation #37) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 10:26 pm

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In post 258, Mewtaph wrote:
In post 256, Gamma Emerald wrote:@Mewtaph do you still want me to explain reads, if so which ones?
Tell me more about your VVD townread. I think that's one of your most original thoughts that definitely needs to be expanded on.
He suspects me because I townread him. I know that Townies get concerned when people TR them on weak reasoning, because they think the scum is using outside info.
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Post Post #287 (isolation #38) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:36 am

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In post 260, Accountant wrote:
In post 233, Gamma Emerald wrote:The way ny used meta doesn't feel like a scum use, also the fact he went back after realizing his analysis was off.
You're going to have been more specific than that. This is very very vague.
Scum wouldn't fact check again like he did.
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Post Post #292 (isolation #39) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:16 am

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That would be EVERYONE'S worst nightmare. Please don't spam the thread.
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Post Post #327 (isolation #40) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:19 pm

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In post 325, Accountant wrote:
In post 300, Pepchoninga wrote:Is this the case with nydushermain at the time where those posts were made since I'm yet to read furhter?
Yes, I started scumreading nydushermain after he started lining up lynches. He's insisted over and over that that wasn't the intention behind the post, but of course I have no reason to buy that, and I think it's still a strong reason to scumread him.

@Gamma Emerald: Your tell is BS. Scum are not magically prevented from fact checking,
But they still wouldn't. It's not a case of whether it's possible. It's that scum have no motivation to double-check the way he did.
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Post Post #503 (isolation #41) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:50 am

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In post 334, Alisae wrote:My reads goes as follows.
Scum: Pep
Other potential scum: Nyd, DBW, Charloux
Town: Ramcius, Mewtaph, Accountant, myself.

Pep has been lurking up to this point. And you may think it's due to inactivity, but I doubt that. Like he's posting in gaps, and if he was town, he's someone I'd expect to be more active and vocal. He's moreso reserved and safe leading up to his posts today. Also he shows no interest in scumhunting.
Not having anyone voted at this point in time tells me you have no real scum reads. This also goes for DBW, who's also lurking, except I don't know them. Either way I see them as a potential partner.
I can see Charloux being paired up with Pep easily. Charloux goes after lurkers but ignores Pep. This seems off to me.
As for Nyd, I'm following Accountant's reasoning and logic moreso then Nyd's on Accountant. Or they could just both be town, which I see happening.
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Post Post #505 (isolation #42) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:54 am

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In post 355, Alisae wrote:Ya know what I said earlier about not hoping onto any other wagons? Yeah....About that...

Lynch Nyd today, lynch Pep tomorrow.

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Post Post #507 (isolation #43) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:56 am

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In post 361, nydushermain wrote:
In post 359, Alisae wrote:Nyd, at this point, you're being anti-town. If you were town, you would want to coperate with people like me. But you're still attacking Accountant. You know it's not working. I don't think you even did what I told you to do with accountant. Additionally, you just want pressure to be off you, but there is no way that is happening currently. You put all the attention on yourself, but that would be good if you weren't attacking your IC the whole game and doing town things.

What is stopping you from voting DBW now if you want to hammer him so badly? I bet you were probably waiting for me to take that to L-1.
I'm not even the one instigating this fight. He's the one that's not backing down.
I feel this is the case here.
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Post Post #508 (isolation #44) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:58 am

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In post 506, Pepchoninga wrote:Also what about me sounds odd Ny? I know yo are asleep but still...Is it that I'm not completely on your side or think you are completely innocent?

Also Gamma, Charloux I would like to hear your opinions on my lynch on Alis and his playing since he joined as a whole.
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Post Post #510 (isolation #45) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:06 am

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In post 407, nydushermain wrote:
In post 355, Alisae wrote:Ya know what I said earlier about not hoping onto any other wagons? Yeah....About that...

Lynch Nyd today, lynch Pep tomorrow.

VOTE: nydushermain
Hey look, he's lining up votes.

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Post Post #512 (isolation #46) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:47 am

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Spoiler:
In post 493, Pepchoninga wrote:No I'm not overeacting. But we are making such a big deal since nys didn't answer a question which I admit has truth to it, but you think that it is more then well to not try and counter my accusation? Why is that?
My vote is is not OMGUS. I have my suspicions on me. Gonna explain them again since clearly you weren't paying enough attention.

First you came in and started going trough posts. Most of the were either pointless in my opinion or post directly against me. During several pages you were just trying to collect enough arguments to get a solid reason to lynch me. Didn't you say that is exactly what mafia liked. But yet, you couldn't really get solid reasons since I hadn't given enough material to work on till then. All you could do was line up that since I wasn't active enough and I usually am, I'm definetely scum. Also me apperantly not scumhunting is also making me scum. Okay tell me what if I don't necessarily scumhunt. Then I'm 100% scum? What If I'm gathering information about the people who are more active and then like what I did come in and start a push against them? Yes, this is not exactly what happened with me, since reasons I have explained but still it is a possibility. Also for me a good scum will definetely be scumhunting since it is good for his discuise. His goal will obviously be to get a misslynch on Town but this doesn't change the fact he is scum. So having me not scumhunting as one of your leading arguments for a lynch is also dumb. Your next argument is that I haven't lynched anybody yet? Even if I didn't lynch you it's again pretty dumb argument.

On the other side you didn't say anything on Accountant. You just instantly became his best partner and was even ready to give up on your personal target (me) to go after his which was already pretty pressured by Accountant (Ny). Even if Accountant is town this is pretty scummy since I'm more and more leaning on having ny as a sure town. Also you going all cocky on the guy after seing that he clearly got frustarted is just a really dissrespectfull and definetely not a town action.

This is why I lynched you. Overall I think I have a better base for a lynch then you ;)
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Post Post #513 (isolation #47) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:50 am

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In post 501, nydushermain wrote:In the case that I wake up and I'm dead,

I think that ramcius has the highest chance of flipping town and then mewtaph after that. Ignore the light town reads I've given on gamma and pep because I scum read a lot of things gamma has done before he started defending me and I think pep is starting to sound odd the more I reread his posts. Ignore my read on alisae because it could just be a passion read. I think that charloux and accountant are the scummiest. I tried to rebuild a case in the midst of all this on accountant by going through his past threads but I think that his play isn't actually all too different from this current one. It fluctuates. I still find it incredibly frustrating that he won't try to reevaluate at all. If forum players care about dead player reads at all, lynch charloux the next day, don't donk it up just because people forced some sort of 1v1 which could still be TvT.

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Post Post #514 (isolation #48) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:52 am

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Excercise: Accountant/Alisae/nydushermain: list your most likely guess for the scum buddy of the other two. I don't want any easy answers though.
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Post Post #517 (isolation #49) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:55 am

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I think it makes sense for now.
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Also Accountant, I REALLY want your thoughts on ny's use of habits from video mafia.
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In post 521, Alisae wrote:If Accountant is scum, I would have no idea who his scum buddy would be.
If Nyd is scum, his partner would be pep.
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Post Post #525 (isolation #52) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:09 am

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In post 524, Alisae wrote:
In post 522, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 521, Alisae wrote:If Accountant is scum, I would have no idea who his scum buddy would be.
If Nyd is scum, his partner would be pep.
Please point out pep/ny associations.
BTW Gamma, starting to think you're moreso town.

Pep is mostly defending nyd by attacking me.
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Post Post #535 (isolation #53) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 9:25 am

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In post 534, Pepchoninga wrote:Not avoiding any question, bote ^^ I said I belive either you 2 are both the mafia (which was my initial thought), a thing that seeing Accountants action on deciding to lynch you seems highly unlikely, or one of you is - keep in mind this is only my thoughts.

So yeah, till Accountant gives his thoughts I ain't answering any more "stupid" questions (excuse the word but I found it most appropriate). Continueing to do so is a scum claim. A desperate one at that.
I don't like this post. Pep's posting recently has felt terrible.
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Post Post #537 (isolation #54) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 9:32 am

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Your posting kinda feels like you are promoting false dichotomies.
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You say you see at least one of Ali and Accountant as scum. Why can't they both be town?
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Post Post #545 (isolation #56) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:26 am

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In post 543, Alisae wrote:Gamma, what are your reads currently. If me, you, and Accountant work together we can clearly gamesolve this.
You, ny, Ramcius town
Mew, Accountant townlean
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Post Post #546 (isolation #57) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:27 am

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In post 544, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 538, Alisae wrote:Also sometimes I recall having seen IoA in some of Pep's posts.

I don't care which one of my two targets gets lynched, as long as they do, because I believe they are both scum.
VOTE: Pepchoninga

Also bussing is common here.
It's funny how you vote me now that a wagon has been started. You don't vote me first so if wagon is not finished you are not an instant target and you also don't really go against the poeple acusing you for the same reason. You are trying to get yourself an immunity while only taking actions under the wings of somebody else so you can Be accused of anything. This is really the mindset of a scum.
That's not true and you know it. She's just joining her support.
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Post Post #551 (isolation #58) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:36 am

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In post 470, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 451, Alisae wrote:
In post 444, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 334, Alisae wrote:My reads goes as follows.
Scum: Pep
Other potential scum: Nyd, DBW, Charloux
Town: Ramcius, Mewtaph, Accountant, myself.

Pep has been lurking up to this point. And you may think it's due to inactivity, but I doubt that. Like he's posting in gaps, and if he was town, he's someone I'd expect to be more active and vocal. He's moreso reserved and safe leading up to his posts today. Also he shows no interest in scumhunting.
Not having anyone voted at this point in time tells me you have no real scum reads. This also goes for DBW, who's also lurking, except I don't know them. Either way I see them as a potential partner.
I can see Charloux being paired up with Pep easily. Charloux goes after lurkers but ignores Pep. This seems off to me.
As for Nyd, I'm following Accountant's reasoning and logic moreso then Nyd's on Accountant. Or they could just both be town, which I see happening.
Your only real strong points are that I was innactive for a bit and that I'm not interested in scumhunting. Now let me tell ya, I am interested in scumhunting. Actually I'm trying to achieve that. Kinda hard when you can't really find a place in the disscussion till now. My prime targets till now were Accountatn and Ramicius. Two people you put as Town on your list. Yet you almost haven't touched on anything those 2 people have said till now. And there one of the most active people in the game till now. Most of the post I read from you are on my posts and going againt me. You have a personal agenta? Or you just want to get me out of the game as soon as possible since I'm gonna be the easiest target for you? Let me also point out that I hate when people just say that they are confirmed town in there opinion and put it like it's something normal. For me it's a veyr scummy move and one that should not be neglected. What makes you think you are a town?
You not voting should also be considered a valid point.
You have shown nothing to prove that you are scumhunting, and currently you're just defending yourself.
What about Ramicius seemed scummy to you?
I think your scum, and I want the town to win? That's sorta what I'm trying to do here.

And you're reading my reads wrong. You wanna know a tell I recently just learned? Scum trying to push things that aren't slips. Because scum LOVE having a justified vote. Saying that I am slipping for reading them as confirmed town is a mistake, becuase I am not reading them as confirmed town, I am reading them as I think they are town.

And what makes me think I'm town? My role pm.
Who should I vote in this situation? You? Accountant? Ramicus or Ny? Should I jump on the waggon or try and go against my targets. Will I get the support needed and will people agree with my suspicions? You know those are all questions I need to answer myself and get other people to answer some of them before I put my real lynch. But for now I will go with a lynch that my heart tell me.

VOTE: Alisae

And yes I am curently scumhinting also I'm defneding myself since you are only going against me. You haven't defended against my accusations tho. Don't think it's very townish to avoid my suspicions.
I did make a post basically saying why I Scum read Ramicius.
I didn't really understand what you meant with the next one buddy but ok.
And what makes me not belive you? You not being able to show me that pm
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In post 557, Charloux wrote:I think it's more due to pride to not admit you are wrong rather than alignment indicative. And if you are so much better than him, why not make him look more scummy by debating with him? You don't need to convince him anything, you just have to make him look scummy thus convincing "town" that he is scum. Think of it as a warm-up so you at least put up a fight against Acc :wink:
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In post 561, Pepchoninga wrote:Gamma, why do you put Alis as town? What in his actions make you think he is so innocent?
Read of the past slot holder as well as the earnest play of the current player.
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Post Post #578 (isolation #61) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:51 pm

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Accountant is solid town. I have very good reasoning for this.
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Post Post #594 (isolation #62) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 9:02 pm

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Ramcius we got a nice cozy seat for you on this wagon.
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Post Post #596 (isolation #63) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 9:04 pm

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Because he's talking about joining but not doing it.
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@ny why do you want a stronger case on you? That is not pro-town.
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Post Post #611 (isolation #65) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 9:46 pm

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In post 606, Ramcius wrote:
In post 604, Alisae wrote:
In post 603, Ramcius wrote:
In post 602, Alisae wrote:Ram answer this as well.
In post 601, Alisae wrote:what do you think of Gamma's reason to hop on the Pep wagon?
Cause he scum and want misslynch? He so elusive, i can't read him at all
I'm not saying what do you think his reason could be. I'm asking you what is your opinion about the reason that he gave. Which are quoted below:
In post 535, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 534, Pepchoninga wrote:Not avoiding any question, bote ^^ I said I belive either you 2 are both the mafia (which was my initial thought), a thing that seeing Accountants action on deciding to lynch you seems highly unlikely, or one of you is - keep in mind this is only my thoughts.

So yeah, till Accountant gives his thoughts I ain't answering any more "stupid" questions (excuse the word but I found it most appropriate). Continueing to do so is a scum claim. A desperate one at that.
I don't like this post. Pep's posting recently has felt terrible.
VOTE: Pepchoninga
In post 537, Gamma Emerald wrote:Your posting kinda feels like you are promoting false dichotomies.
and my opinions stays, he scum sheeping wagon

also, i find this cuteness in his ISO :D
In post 92, Gamma Emerald wrote:I'm saying scum has less motivation to provide more content.
I have been providing content: I've taken stances and argued my points.
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@DBW: if you can't keep up plz do us a favor and replace out
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Post Post #628 (isolation #67) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:55 pm

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In post 624, Accountant wrote:
In post 578, Gamma Emerald wrote:Accountant is solid town. I have very good reasoning for this.
Let's hear it, then. You know, just so I can check you really townread me and aren't buddying me like Ali did.
I was suspecting you for not taking ny's playstyle into account based on a post you made earlier talking about playstyle differences then I saw you made a comment about how video mafia affects his playstyle so I felt like you weren't being unfair, and were able to notice that it was a playstyle issue.
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In post 634, Accountant wrote:
In post 628, Gamma Emerald wrote:I was suspecting you for not taking ny's playstyle into account based on a post you made earlier talking about playstyle differences then I saw you made a comment about how video mafia affects his playstyle so I felt like you weren't being unfair, and were able to notice that it was a playstyle issue.
Why does this make me solid town rather than null?
It demonstrates
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b) you are not playing contradictory to your comments on playstyle
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Post Post #641 (isolation #69) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:45 pm

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In post 637, nydushermain wrote:
In post 635, Alisae wrote:
In post 627, nydushermain wrote:Pep I thought was townie because he came to the conclusion that accountant was scummy based on a similar reason to mine. It didn't seem like a sheep either so we were thinking the same way.
Do you think Pep is trying to buddy you?
I could definitely see scum!pep doing it, not because he's trying to buddy me, but because you're going after him. I see like this kind of strategy where if he defends me successfully, he's always behind me in the lynch list if the fight between me and accountant continues. I dunno, it's a dumb answer I think because that's me saying it under the assumption that he's scum where if I assume he's town, he could just be defending me because of a scum read on you and accountant who were at the time attacking me.
Gamma, does this look like buddying to you, or am I just going crazy?
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Post Post #643 (isolation #70) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:47 pm

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I think he's trying to convey that he believes Pep is trying to remain in the shadows by keeping ny-Accountant at the forefront.
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Post Post #645 (isolation #71) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:54 pm

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Yo ny are you down wkth voting Pepcho?
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Post Post #648 (isolation #72) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 12:04 am

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What would you like me to reread?
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Post Post #653 (isolation #73) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 12:24 am

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I don't see any buddying.
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Post Post #677 (isolation #74) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 10:58 am

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Sorry, I took your spot on accident.
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Post Post #706 (isolation #75) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 7:58 pm

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Post Post #754 (isolation #76) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 6:37 am

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In post 715, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 692, Accountant wrote:Pep what are your reads?
Alisae - Scum
DBW - Potential Scum (mostly because he is lurking or not even considering playing the game anymore)
You - Scum leaning to null (Is that a thing?)
Ramicius - null leaning to Town
Chaloux - null leaning to Town
Gamma - null leaning to Scum
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I think I missed one guy so if you see yourself just tell me and I will add you in.
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Post Post #778 (isolation #77) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 4:23 pm

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Posturing about what?
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Post Post #796 (isolation #78) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 9:25 pm

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In post 795, Pepchoninga wrote:No, your are forcing peopel to get away from you and put pressure on me, it's a simple mafia routine.
She's not saying "you have to read this person as scum", she's saying "can you form an opinion so I know where you stand?".
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Post Post #801 (isolation #79) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 9:32 pm

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Why do you insist on Alisae being a he? Seems more like a she to me (sorry if I'm wrong btw)
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Post Post #803 (isolation #80) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 9:33 pm

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In post 802, Pepchoninga wrote:I aksed Gamma to reread your IDO too...I don't think he did it. So why should Ramicius?
I don't need to do it, I already have a stance: Ali is town.
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Post Post #807 (isolation #81) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 9:36 pm

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I'm sorry but the avvie makes me think "she", as well as the username.
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Your moderator is mhsmith0.

Playerlist:
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    nydushermain
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Post Post #815 (isolation #83) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 10:09 pm

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pleasepleaseplease Ramcius I believe you are town so just STFU at this point. I think Ram ny Ali Acc town so I want to lynch oytside of that group. That's why my pushes are so lazy: I'm PoE voting at this point.
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Post Post #823 (isolation #84) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 10:47 pm

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In post 822, Ramcius wrote:
In post 821, Alisae wrote:
In post 819, Ramcius wrote:
In post 814, Alisae wrote:I'm not at all, I'm asking you to take a stance on him, not scumread him. Which you still aren't doing.
If you could townread pep, I would ask why and then convince you otherwise.
And you should, because that's not a slip. And you made my scum radar go off by saying it is.
And for the P-edit, how do you know that's not just game knowledge?
You just proved my point, you want me scumread Pep, but you don't have strong case, and want me to do work for you, or at least give guidelines where to strike to make me scumread him.

You say you convince me h's scum, if i townread him, not try to convince, so i want to hear those arguments that makes Pep scum

I asked before, i will ask again, don't WIFOM on me, you say you wouldn't do something as scum, and when confronted, blame on me not knowing game, when you clearly said it's related to your playstyle in first place? Cause my FM knowledge advice me not put limits on scum capabilities to fake town play, and yes, i don't know your playstyle, so i use my general experience
oh my fuckin god...
I want you to townread him so I can convince you why he isn't town.
I wasn't blaming you, I was just asking you if it could come from my own experience.

Since you're not making this easy for me to PoE the game, I have to remember this is a Newbie game and actually put effort into this shit if you aren't willing to look at is ISO and take a goddam stance.
exactly, how i could know your experience? If i see you first time

your logic getting worse and worse, why me preventing you to PoE game? If i scumread Pep, you get what you want, if i don't, you will make me scumread him, so how i stop you?

@Gamma, why you so strong townread Alisae?
VVD's paranoia towards my townread felt like town worried scum was pocketing them/etc. Also, I get the attempt to draw the NK, and also understand why she would claim when she did.
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Post Post #824 (isolation #85) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 10:49 pm

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About the claim timing: one time I claimed my role at L-1 without actual intent as there was a wagon parked on me so I figured "If I don't claim we're gonna deadline lynch" and claimed. So pre-emptive claims make sense.
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Post Post #962 (isolation #86) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 1:14 pm

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Alisae, that pointing out the PR was terrible.
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Post Post #965 (isolation #87) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 1:38 pm

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I've seen strategic self hammers for reactions before.
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Post Post #971 (isolation #88) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 4:54 pm

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ny is town for the reaction
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Post Post #978 (isolation #89) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 6:43 pm

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In post 976, Pepchoninga wrote:Honestly guys, I'm as frustrated as everybody else...I will admit I did have somewhat of a personal agenta on Alis, since he did basically ruin my experience of the game, but I think the people that lynched him can confirm that there was more then enough reasons for me to do that. A wagon on me tho would really probably mean the end of the game for town.
Not really, unless you think you are THE ONLY ONE who has the scumteam found (which I hope you don't think that at this point). Also, how was your game ruined?
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Post Post #982 (isolation #90) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:40 pm

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You're going to have to explain, as you seem to be indicating it's about a past game yet you have no past games.
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Post Post #991 (isolation #91) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 5:57 pm

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In post 981, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 979, Accountant wrote:nyd's reactions are strong frustrated town and difficult to fake. If you really believe that Pep you should be voting me or Gamma. Where does DBW stand in your view?
I will when I see a better view of the 2.
Honestly Gamma disappearing for the end of Day 1 is quite suspicious to me
, but you being posting much less when the action got hotter is not helping you in my eyes either.

Honestly I'm as frustrated about DBW as the next guy. I would like if he gets replaced or lynched. Tho I can't form a good opinion on somebody who really posted little to nothing.
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Post Post #1021 (isolation #92) » Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:30 am

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Sweetness
tbh I think the shading on me plus what Accountant brought up is good reason to:
VOTE: Pep
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Post Post #1023 (isolation #93) » Thu Dec 29, 2016 12:08 pm

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In post 1022, nydushermain wrote:
In post 1021, Gamma Emerald wrote:Sweetness
tbh I think the shading on me plus what Accountant brought up is good reason to:
VOTE: Pep
And for other reasons.

VOTE: pep
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Post Post #1025 (isolation #94) » Thu Dec 29, 2016 12:18 pm

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In post 1024, Pepchoninga wrote:Going for a fast hammer ei? No real reasons for lynching me, jus putting it on there.

Gamma if anything you really have been inconsistent troughout the game. You hop on here and there and then disappear from the action for a while till you find another time to hop in. I'm not pulling shade I'm developing a theory. You really should see the difference. Also you basically have nothing to back your lynch. You just use other people's saying and lynch the person who is on the radar atm. You also haven't started any wagons or really developed any atrong reads. This is either very lazy play or just scum behavior.

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

Also nyd, would love to hear your other reasons too. I think I already gave answers to everything you pushed against me and you didn't comment on that. A blind lynch without anything to back it up.
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In post 1022, nydushermain wrote:
In post 1021, Gamma Emerald wrote:Sweetness
tbh I think the shading on me plus what Accountant brought up is good reason to:
VOTE: Pep
And for other reasons.

VOTE: pep
L-1
Think again dumbass: I pointed out the L-1.
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Post Post #1027 (isolation #95) » Thu Dec 29, 2016 12:30 pm

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Well I was specifically noting that point.
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Post Post #1047 (isolation #96) » Fri Dec 30, 2016 6:01 am

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@srceenplay: what changed your read on Ramcius?
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Post Post #1049 (isolation #97) » Fri Dec 30, 2016 6:11 am

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Hey, I have an idea here. Don't cramp my style.
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Post Post #1051 (isolation #98) » Fri Dec 30, 2016 6:25 am

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I am interested in that lynch but I have other questions currently.
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Post Post #1054 (isolation #99) » Fri Dec 30, 2016 6:49 am

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Ok that's good. I thought you were shifting your read based on poular opinion so I asked about it.
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Post Post #1058 (isolation #100) » Fri Dec 30, 2016 8:48 am

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In post 1056, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 1051, Gamma Emerald wrote:I am interested in that lynch but I have other questions currently.
No you are not trying to push for my lynch. You just came in put it on and then left it for somebody else to finish. This either means you are weary of who I might end being or you know it and don't want to take the blame for it. This is a scum move imo.
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Post Post #1062 (isolation #101) » Fri Dec 30, 2016 10:56 am

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Post Post #1063 (isolation #102) » Fri Dec 30, 2016 11:01 am

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Towny votes: Ramcius and ssbm
Not towny votes: Accountant and Pepcho
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Post Post #1064 (isolation #103) » Fri Dec 30, 2016 11:02 am

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Accountant why did you naked vote Alisae?
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Post Post #1065 (isolation #104) » Fri Dec 30, 2016 11:07 am

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IIRC Pep pushed
Alisae (obvtown)
Ramcius (obvtown)
Accountant (townish currently, pending response)
And barely anyone else d1.
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Post Post #1067 (isolation #105) » Fri Dec 30, 2016 11:26 am

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How about you not try to attack me for my analysis. Talk to me.
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Post Post #1069 (isolation #106) » Fri Dec 30, 2016 11:34 am

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IIRC = if I remember correctly
It's list of people Pepcho pushed d1. I want to know why he ignored Everyone else mostly.
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Post Post #1072 (isolation #107) » Fri Dec 30, 2016 11:38 am

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In post 1070, Srceenplay wrote:Are you giving second thoughts to your Pep vote or are you going through your thought process to confirm your vote?
I'm seeing if I can get information out of him about some of the things I suspect him for.
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Post Post #1077 (isolation #108) » Fri Dec 30, 2016 11:47 am

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I feel like Mewtaph/ssbm was the most under-the-radar player overall Day 1.
Would like some examples of what you see in Accountant.
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Post Post #1079 (isolation #109) » Fri Dec 30, 2016 11:50 am

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In post 1076, Ramcius wrote:wasn't there some fight between Pep and Nyd D1 too? And i think he voiced wish lynch DBW

can you explain why Kyo is towny?
Well then that's ANOTHER obvtown (though not quite then) that Pep pushed. He pushed my 3 hardest townreads and a town lean d1. Fantastic. As for DBW, I need to see what you are referring to before I pass judgement.
I'm not sure about kyo yet but I wasn't made wary by his vote on Ali.
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Post Post #1081 (isolation #110) » Fri Dec 30, 2016 12:00 pm

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@ssbm look at how ny reacted to the selfhammer. That's town.
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Post Post #1162 (isolation #111) » Mon Jan 02, 2017 5:38 am

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In post 1090, Accountant wrote:
In post 1064, Gamma Emerald wrote:Accountant why did you naked vote Alisae?
Because I thought she was scum.
On what grounds?
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Post Post #1168 (isolation #112) » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:00 am

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In post 1162, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1090, Accountant wrote:
In post 1064, Gamma Emerald wrote:Accountant why did you naked vote Alisae?
Because I thought she was scum.
On what grounds?
Please dont ignore me
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Post Post #1304 (isolation #113) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 2:52 pm

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Post Post #1305 (isolation #114) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 5:00 pm

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In post 1286, Ramcius wrote:Nyd, when people will start calling me scum, i will consider changing my ways of playing here, but for now i'm confident, and you say my pushes are awful? I see this as people being awful at being/pretending to be town, ask yourself, why it's only me townread by pretty much all, while everyone else is on 2-3 ppl scumlist?

I think this day goes without lynch, so

VOTE: No lynch

i just can't any longer, sooner we start night and i get out of here, the better

P-edit: very nice, Nyd, you jsut said Srceen is town for putting Pep on top townread, the very same reason i townread, and you call my read on him random? :D
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Post Post #1308 (isolation #115) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:01 pm

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I'll try to put together a defense when I have time.
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Post Post #1338 (isolation #116) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 6:49 am

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Pep I'd suggest you unvote. If scum are within (ssbm, srceen, ny) then scum can quicklynch.
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Post Post #1346 (isolation #117) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:26 am

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In post 1338, Gamma Emerald wrote:Pep I'd suggest you unvote. If scum are within (ssbm, srceen, ny) then scum can quicklynch.
Hello, ny? I said it calmly because I figured calm reasoning was the way to talk Pep down.
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Post Post #1350 (isolation #118) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:30 am

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In post 1345, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 1342, Srceenplay wrote:
In post 1341, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 1339, Srceenplay wrote:I'm sorry but saying believe me or not is not going to work. My trust on everyone is running a little thin at the moment
Understandable. I myself don't really know what to rhink of this game.
Then you really should unvote
Why should I? I want answers from Gamma, since the guy has been alwfuly inconsistent. If me voting him would get those answers, then I'm willing too.
Can you sum up your questions?
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Post Post #1351 (isolation #119) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:31 am

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In post 1349, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 1346, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1338, Gamma Emerald wrote:Pep I'd suggest you unvote. If scum are within (ssbm, srceen, ny) then scum can quicklynch.
Hello, ny? I said it calmly because I figured calm reasoning was the way to talk Pep down.
Atm my lynch is mostly a pressure one.
I REALLY DON'T think it's good to be pressure voting in LyLo.
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Post Post #1355 (isolation #120) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:44 am

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What I meant in the second post was "I'm focused elsewhere".
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Post Post #1358 (isolation #121) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:47 am

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tbh I'm going to do this because I'm the most experienced one here
I suggest we massclaim now. My suggested order is Pep first, then me and srceen in either order, then ssbm, then ny.
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Post Post #1359 (isolation #122) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:47 am

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In post 1357, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 1355, Gamma Emerald wrote:What I meant in the second post was "I'm focused elsewhere".
Basically same thing. I didn't saw you focus anywhere really. Only now you seem to have popped in this game more.
I was asked why I was voting you but not really focusing on you
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Post Post #1361 (isolation #123) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:49 am

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Because I still fos him and scumreads should be early in the claim order
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Post Post #1364 (isolation #124) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:52 am

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I say srceen claims next
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Post Post #1370 (isolation #125) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:56 am

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OK
I am a tracker
Night 1 I was way behind and only really looked at the flip, so I tracked Charloux and saw him visit Ramcius
Night 2 I tracked ssbm and tracked ssbm to ramcius, meaning ssbm is confirmed scum
I suggested mc because I thought I could bait scum into claiming a PR
VOTE: ssbm_kyouko
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Post Post #1372 (isolation #126) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 10:00 am

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Because I have been thaught optimal play when you get a guilty is to try to catch the other scum then declare your result
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Post Post #1376 (isolation #127) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 10:11 am

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Once Charloux flipped, I knew the only visiting roles other than me were scum
So I didn't need to worry about ssbm's claim
I've also learned to not wait too long to claim something important in lylo
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Post Post #1394 (isolation #128) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 12:08 pm

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In post 1077, Gamma Emerald wrote:I feel like Mewtaph/ssbm was the most under-the-radar player overall Day 1.
Would like some examples of what you see in Accountant.
I think this explains EXACTLY why ssbm ran the kill. There we're many light FoSes but no hard suspicion.
at the end of Day 2.
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Post Post #1415 (isolation #129) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 12:24 pm

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In post 1411, nydushermain wrote:
In post 1409, Pepchoninga wrote:If you and Srceenplay were scum, we would have already lost. We haven't so for now, I'm pushing this possibility down the train.
Why have you already lost if me and screenplay were scum? We would try to hammer gamma right now and you'd be fast enough to stop it right?
Thing, is there's no way ny is scum. He townslipped HARD.
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Post Post #1417 (isolation #130) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 12:25 pm

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In post 1413, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 1408, nydushermain wrote:
In post 1407, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 1405, nydushermain wrote:You PUT GAMMA AT L-2. If you and gamma were town, and screenplay and ssbm were scum, they could LITERALLY push it to an automatic lynch by coordinating their timing in mafia chat before you even realized why you're so damn wrong. Heck, what if I'M SCUM? and did it? What if I was with screenplay or ssbm and we decided to hammer? What's the bait?
I'm basically in here at all times. Honestly I was taking a risk at outspeeding mafia. And how the fuck do you have a mafia chat?
Is that not a thing here?
You need an Encryptor to have a Day chat. I don't really think this is the case in here.
Some games have encryptor free daychat
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Post Post #1482 (isolation #131) » Sun Jan 08, 2017 3:21 pm

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In post 1436, Srceenplay wrote:@ gamma emerald
Why did you choose to track charloux if Alisea outed him as pr? It is kinda suspicious that you say say you visited that person and that person dies.
I didn't have time to read the game when i submitted my n1 action. All I did was check the flip.
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Post Post #1484 (isolation #132) » Sun Jan 08, 2017 3:24 pm

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In post 1449, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Well, I'm assuming Gamma's not the roleblocker or he wouldn't be doing this. I'm a cop, checked pep N1 and got town result, checked gamma last night and got nothing back. Thinking it might be nyd/gamma and they chose to block because they thought I had a guilty on nyd yesterday.

Want to figure out if it's gamma/nyd or gamma/screenplay before day ends though, tomorrow is still lylo and I'm bound to die tonight
And you are proven scum. Thank god I checked this in my first newbie: scum NEVER have daychat in Newbies. nydushermain is town and to push him is a scumclaim.
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Post Post #1485 (isolation #133) » Sun Jan 08, 2017 3:25 pm

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In post 1455, nydushermain wrote:Anyways, with ssbm's green check on pep, it now narrows the possibilities down to

SSBM + Pep
Gamma + Screenplay

This is cool. I mean, I guess ssbm and screenplay could still be scum theoretically but I don't believe it.
How is ssbm + srceeen out of the question?
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Post Post #1486 (isolation #134) » Sun Jan 08, 2017 3:27 pm

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In post 1476, nydushermain wrote:
In post 1473, Srceenplay wrote:No. I think it is Pep gamma. Or pep ssbm.
How can pep gamma be a world? If pep and gamma and scum, that implies that ssbm is real cop and his town check on pep is a lie?
tbh I think srceen is just scum
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Post Post #1487 (isolation #135) » Sun Jan 08, 2017 3:28 pm

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In post 1483, nydushermain wrote:
In post 1482, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1436, Srceenplay wrote:@ gamma emerald
Why did you choose to track charloux if Alisea outed him as pr? It is kinda suspicious that you say say you visited that person and that person dies.
I didn't have time to read the game when i submitted my n1 action. All I did was check the flip.
You had 48 hours??
I was away for most of the weekend.
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Post Post #1490 (isolation #136) » Sun Jan 08, 2017 4:50 pm

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But you said teams.
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Post Post #1492 (isolation #137) » Sun Jan 08, 2017 4:55 pm

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Why would you say Pep twice then?
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Post Post #1495 (isolation #138) » Sun Jan 08, 2017 5:02 pm

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Why wouldn't you state it like one of pep and gamma/ssbm though?
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Post Post #1498 (isolation #139) » Sun Jan 08, 2017 5:32 pm

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In post 1496, nydushermain wrote:I think it's ssbm + pep
nyd this is great but I want you to put serious consideration into srceenplay. There's no way scum leaves a tracker alive when it has the power to determine the last scum no matter who it targets.
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Post Post #1502 (isolation #140) » Sun Jan 08, 2017 6:35 pm

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In post 1501, Srceenplay wrote:
In post 1498, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1496, nydushermain wrote:I think it's ssbm + pep
nyd this is great but I want you to put serious consideration into srceenplay. There's no way scum leaves a tracker alive when it has the power to determine the last scum no matter who it targets.
Can you explain this better. I don't get what you are saying.
I'm telling him that I don't want him to come into 3p lylo without taking a good hard look at srceenplay.
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Post Post #1507 (isolation #141) » Sun Jan 08, 2017 11:01 pm

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In post 1506, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 1504, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 1453, nydushermain wrote:
In post 1452, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Just got to this game after work/sleep. Least interested in my newbies so I tend to get to my other stuff first
I feel like I'd be interested if I were cop??
When you get out of newbie queue and into the bigger games I think you'll understand this a bit better
In post 1465, nydushermain wrote:I want ssbm to explain his thought process on day 2 interactions with his confirmed town!pep. Gamma, I want you to explain why you checked charloux after the end of day 1 where Alisae pretty much said he was pr, as well as I.
What do you mean by my thought process on day 2 interactions with pep? Are you asking why we hardly interacted? I had a town result on him and was working on the assumption there was probably 1 scum in Alisae, Pep, Nyd from day 1 unless scum was completely lurking on the outside. With Alisae dead and Pep cleared I was leaning to nyd by PoE but at daybreak, if both scum were lurking that PoE wouldn't work so I went for the lurker slot.
This does make more sense then Gamma.
As in?
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Post Post #1509 (isolation #142) » Sun Jan 08, 2017 11:26 pm

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Look at the fact ssbm pushed nyd after he townslipped. Only scum do that type of thing.
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Post Post #1618 (isolation #143) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:30 pm

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In post 1574, Pepchoninga wrote:Wow...I basically lost the game by myself ...lol
YOU ARE A MORON!
A COP CLAIMING AN INNO ON YOU DOES NOT MAKE THE COP REAL. IF HE CLAIMED MAFIA ON YOU YOU WOULD HAVE VOTED HIM. HIS GOAL WAS TO SURVIVE, CLAIMING A TOWN RESULT ON HIS TOWNBEARD IS HOW HE DOES IT.
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Post Post #1627 (isolation #144) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:51 pm

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In post 1621, mhsmith0 wrote:
In post 1618, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1574, Pepchoninga wrote:Wow...I basically lost the game by myself ...lol
YOU ARE A MORON!
A COP CLAIMING AN INNO ON YOU DOES NOT MAKE THE COP REAL. IF HE CLAIMED MAFIA ON YOU YOU WOULD HAVE VOTED HIM. HIS GOAL WAS TO SURVIVE, CLAIMING A TOWN RESULT ON HIS TOWNBEARD IS HOW HE DOES IT.
He's new, he made a mistake. Shit happens. Plenty of others would have made that mistake here too.
He still needs that fact burned into his mind with a cattle prod.
And I know just the way.
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Post Post #1628 (isolation #145) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:54 pm

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In post 1625, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 1618, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1574, Pepchoninga wrote:Wow...I basically lost the game by myself ...lol
YOU ARE A MORON!
A COP CLAIMING AN INNO ON YOU DOES NOT MAKE THE COP REAL. IF HE CLAIMED MAFIA ON YOU YOU WOULD HAVE VOTED HIM. HIS GOAL WAS TO SURVIVE, CLAIMING A TOWN RESULT ON HIS TOWNBEARD IS HOW HE DOES IT.
BISH OFF PROD KING, IF YOU ACTUALLY WAS HERE AND HELPED BACK UP YOUR CLAIM AND ACTUALLY ATTEMPTED TO HELP US WIN WE MIGHT'VE DONE THAT!
I don't think being more active would have helped when you decided to think cop clears are a two way street.
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Post Post #1630 (isolation #146) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:33 pm

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I provided a case OUTSIDE my claim. It was a scumclaim to hard SR ny like ssbm did.
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Post Post #1631 (isolation #147) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:34 pm

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btw I've edited my wiki page on town play in my link with the info from this game
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Post Post #1633 (isolation #148) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:02 pm

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"poe"
wtf in your "poe" led to srceen being conftown?
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Post Post #1644 (isolation #149) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:22 am

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In post 1642, Mewtaph wrote:My activity levels have been quite screwed lately. At least I know now that I perform a lot better focusing on a single game. If anyone wants to hydra toss me a message, if not I'll try to play when I have a bit more time on my hands - and not over game myself (and consequently flake) next time round.
I flaked too, dw
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