Newbie 1826 Basketball Game Over

[Spartan117]

Not sure if trying to get town cred by defending obv town, or backing up scum buddy. Hmm

[XnadrojX]

preliminary reads: Clemency as scum, Deimos as Town.

Spartan's whole reason for lynching cheeky was putting them at L-1, which is perfectly fine since someone lolhammering would basically conf them as scum, unless UCV self-hammers, which if he can't tell when L-1 is, I don't think he'll self-hammer.

VOTE: UCV

Since they're no longer at L-2/L-1 I feel comfortable putting the vote here. If you have anything against it feel free to question it because I'm very sure any point I can bring up against UCV on a light skim of the thread is stronger than what you can bring up for them/against CT.


PEdit: Cheeky is obvious town. I'd as Town or Scum would both want to defend them.

[XnadrojX]

You have no base of accusation against me as scum in the first place, by your logic anyone with a townread is scum, which ends up being pretty damn circular.

[CheekyTeeky]

This seems kind of cheesy.

I don't counterclaim.

This seems kind of cheesy.

yeah, it is. Hopefully it'll be done with soon. What do you think of assemble's entrance?

They don't expect to die Night 1?

If Spartan was on the right track about the scum not understanding game mechanics prior to his loss of sanity, then this is pretty incriminating.

[CheekyTeeky]

Nah ignore that Clemency's ISO is pretty town for him otherwise.

[CheekyTeeky]

Peaches feels pretty town apart from his absence now. If he is scum that implicates XnadrojX going off his reads list D1.

[Deimos27]

Peaches feels pretty town apart from his absence now. If he is scum that implicates XnadrojX going off his reads list D1.

Peaches's last post was 220, and you scumread her in your 221. What changes your mind now?

[Deimos27]

I think Cheeky played really town day 1. Probably not the right place for pressure right now.

Unless the scumteam is literally {Peaches, Xnadroj} I'm disappointed in town's activity this game.
I really want more activity from these two.

VOTE: Peaches

If necessary we should come back to Voyager at the end of the day. He's a relatively safe lynch.

I feel its way more likely than not that town are just being inactive, and the two scum are between yourself, clemency, cheeky, and plot

Why are Xnadj and Peaches town?

[Deimos27]

What's the scumread on Clemency based on, Xnadj?

[CheekyTeeky]

Peaches feels pretty town apart from his absence now. If he is scum that implicates XnadrojX going off his reads list D1.

Peaches's last post was 220, and you scumread her in your 221. What changes your mind now?

I reread the ISO. I'm feeling like null-town. But I haven't done that much digging. No time for proper posts today sorry.

[mhsmith0]

Peaches did not respond to prod and will be replaced.

[UC Voyager]

Peaches did not respond to prod and will be replaced.

yikes
well....he wouldn't post. thats on him
VOat count please

[UC Voyager]

Making a new read list.....

the higher the number, the more the scummy

1-Spartan (most townie)

Spoiler:

The biggest reason is because he is confirmed town pretty much. unless one shot bullet proof decided not to out spartan which i wouldn't understand...He also seems very pro-town. Yesterday he was part of the group of people trying to save assemble from being lynched. I feel that is very townie.

2-Diemos27

Spoiler:

His scum trap was an amazing idea. He also isn't just targeting one person. He is considering everyone as scum (except Spartan). I have always found this to be townie.

3-Clemency

Spoiler:

This is one im not the most sure about. I found their vote on me to be a little scummy because they didn't state any reasons, they just said that the people before him said the reasons. Other than that though, im not to sure. I might actually read his posts.

4-XandrosX

Spoiler:

The issue with him is he makes one or two posts then doesn't come back to continue making his argument. Today, he started with a huge case on Clemency. Then didn't make another post. The wagon didn't really start. Then, He makes a case on me and once again, hasn't come back to make any more posts that could support his case. So i get something of a scum vibe from him

5-CheekyTeeky (Most scummy)

Spoiler:

During day one/start of day 2, i got a town read on CheekyTeeky, but that changed. After I hammered Assemble. She was talking as if i just got two townies lynched. (she implied i was todays lynch). She explained why she said assemble was townie, but me? she had no reason to think I was town,
so why would she say 2 townies lynched? Also, if she did get a town read on me, then why would she try to make it sound like i had to be lynched. Wouldn't it be better to lynch a mafia than to lynch an idiot town? And why would she vote me today. Going on, after She got a vote from Spartan117 and i lost a few votes, Why did she freak out? She went on to say things like "UCV needs to be lynched"...and whenever asked about almost anything, she would say that You guys need to lynch me. She also started to say tht Spartan117 was just "making a narrative" or something like that. I didn't understand that defense.

I don't have any reads for
-peaches slot
-Plot

due to their inactivity.

[Plotinus]

I'm sorry for trying to stay as long as I did and holding up the game. I've never replaced out of a game before. The antibiotics are helping some but not quickly enough to do my duties to you guys.

The reason my reads list wasn't for public consumption was because I wasn't satisfied with my reasoning and wanted to look deeper into a lot more slots. Obviously this hasn't happened.

I thought cheeky felt different here from her scum game. Wanted to examine that more closely. I thought clemency looked different from his scum game. Maybe he still does? Uc voyager is coin flip between scum and someone who made a terrible mistake. I like that he's found a direction to push, think as scum he'd have easier targets than cheeky. I liked deismos' activity but I needed to do more work there too. I wish I had more to offer you than all my reads need work but that's what happens when you're sick for a few weeks. I am sure whoever replaces me will do better.

mod: please replace me

[Clemency]

Sorry to see you go, here's hoping for the best.

[CheekyTeeky]

Plot wishing you well <3 hope to see you again soon.

[UC Voyager]

Good bye Plot. We will remember you

[UC Voyager]

If I'm correct. Gorny is on list for replacement and I'm pretty sure he is IE so hopefully he will give us some good reads

[UC Voyager]

so MOD....can we have a vote count

[mhsmith0]

Votecount 2.04

Peaches (1)

Deimos27 ,

CheekyTeeky (2)

Spartan117 , UC Voyager ,

UC Voyager (3)

Clemency , CheekyTeeky , XnadrojX , L-2

Not Voting (3)

Peaches , Plotinus ,

Day two deadline is Sunday October 22nd, 10 PM PST. (expired on 2017-10-22 22:00:00)

Replacing Plotinus

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch!

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[UC Voyager]

OK like, I'm more sure of Cheeky being town than UCV being scum at this point, so can you guys like, not, push the obvtown ty.

Also I'm seriously intending to hammer UCV, someone allcaps me "no" before I do it like, tomorrow.

Going to continue shitting on UCV even if I said i wasn't going to because #492 really

really

disturbs me.

Noob defense is invalid, and if it was you basically said "I have no reasons" and used "I'm a noob" to justify them, which completely invalidates your vote if you were going for that in the first place. Tries to screw with Cheeky saying "prove you're town", when the initiative should be on the person creating the case. Proceeds to discredit by twisting her words into "arguments are a waste of time", which just takes it right out of context. A whole lot more shit can be come up with about why UCV is scum but it's pretty blatantly obvious so I'll stop here.

Spartan why are you still on Cheeky even after you agreed that you basically catch-22ed them, it doesn't further your town agenda and encouraging shit like 493 and 496 isn't helping at all. Even if you're confirmed town pls don't do this to us.

Uhh I think you misunderstood my post
This is what I said

-Ok. I didn't know you were supposed to declare a hammer

-how does this effect my ability to make a case

-I did not say I could not make good reasons because I was new. I don't know where you got that from

[Clemency]

Votecount 2.04

Peaches (1)

Deimos27 ,

CheekyTeeky (2)

Spartan117 , UC Voyager ,

UC Voyager (3)

Clemency , CheekyTeeky , XnadrojX , L-2

Not Voting (3)

Peaches , Plotinus ,

Day two deadline is Sunday October 22nd, 10 PM PST. (expired on 2017-10-22 22:00:00)

Replacing Plotinus

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch!

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Do you find a new one of those each time or do you just have a folder of basketball gifs?

[UC Voyager]

Votecount 2.04

Peaches (1)

Deimos27 ,

CheekyTeeky (2)

Spartan117 , UC Voyager ,

UC Voyager (3)

Clemency , CheekyTeeky , XnadrojX , L-2

Not Voting (3)

Peaches , Plotinus ,

Day two deadline is Sunday October 22nd, 10 PM PST. (expired on 2017-10-22 22:00:00)

Replacing Plotinus

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch!

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Do you find a new one of those each time or do you just have a folder of basketball gifs?

never thought about where he got these......

[Deimos27]

Sad to see you go, Plot!
I hope these replacements don't take too long, we're already 21 pages in after all.

For some reason UCV is starting to feel more and more just like VI. It's weird that basically everybody in this game were completely ready to lynch UCV, so unless the scumteam is exactly UCV/Plot or UCV/Peaches I don't think scum would bus their scumpartner that hard. Feels like lynchbait.
I don't know how much sense that makes.

Of the pushes on him Clemency's feels most scum motivated for a few reasons:
1. His vote didn't have any original reasoning behind it, feels more like following the flow of the game.
2. His 403 just pings me because it's defending Voyager, while still keeping his vote on him. Not to mention the reasoning in it was pretty bad, as I've already demonstated. "I don't necessarily think he's town" is weird fencesitting too since he's voting Voyager and has recently claimed it's a scumread.

I also get a scumvibe from a lot of Clemency's play yesterday.
3. He never actually provides a read on the Assemble slot yesterday. In 119 he says he doesn't like Assemble's tone, but then continues to focus on the zemaj slot instead (121). Then in 266 he says he's not sitting on the sidelines, that Assemble is the wagon he wants to be on. But if you read his ISO Clemency barely interacts with Assemble at all. He never states he thinks Assemble is scum, he doesn't even push the slot.
It really seems to me that Clemency was trying to disassociate himself with the Assemble wagon, since he knew it was gonna flip town.

Even if you disagree with the above reasoning, if you read Clemency's ISO it's fairly obvious he is in fact fencesitting the entire game. I see him make a lot of posts but

he doesn't scumhunt at all.

For stated reasons:
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Clemency

I'm not sure about Cheeky but so far they've played pretty pro-town so as of now I'd rather lynch someone more detrimental today.

[Deimos27]

Thoughts on Clemency, anyone?