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xofelf they/them(also ze/zem or xe/xem)Miss Mashthey/them(also ze/zem or xe/xem)
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VOTE: DV My fox avatar is better.
Sidenote, this is a *still* awake xof. Sleep will be happening soon so, I'll see y'all late this afternoon.Xalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
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I am awake again. And I've skim-read, will vibe check once the caffeine kicks in.
While it's NAI in every way, I thought Shirou's entrance was adorable and I appreciate the effort put in.
Ydrasse just feels like Ydrasse. I dunno if I'm happy to see her cuz we're friends or she's town. I think it could be both.
Aisa also hits the smiley places. Good vibes.
I don't think DGB not posting means anything yet. It's possible she hasn't been around yet to know the game started.*but* I have played with her probably more than most people here, so I feel confident that whatever her entrance is, she's somebody I can actually *read* and not just vibesfeel.Xalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
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To be clear, I meant out of the people in the playerlist that I've played with, I've played more games with DGB. Not that I've played more games with DGB than other players have. But thanks <3In post 136, ItalianoVD wrote:
I'm happy you're here then, look forward to see how the game progresses.In post 130, xofelf wrote: I don't think DGB not posting means anything yet. It's possible she hasn't been around yet to know the game started.*but* I have played with her probably more than most people here, so I feel confident that whatever her entrance is, she's somebody I can actually *read* and not just vibesfeel.
DV is doing DV town things methinks. His posts so far remind me of how he was in our last Team Mafia game, very poking hard at things/holding a magnifying glass up to them to see how reactions go or if he gets the answers from people that he's hoping for. It could be NAI though as I don't recall seeing a DV scum game, but there's a something when DV is being a sneakysneak that he's missing in his vibes so far.
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Hi Ydrasse <3In post 161, Ydrasse wrote: (also i missed saying it but hi xof!)Xalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
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Iirc, nobody here *has*. I statistically roll town, especially VT, at an alarmingly high rate. The only time I can remember rolling scum was when i was part of a hydra with Pine in Alisae's Flying Dutchman, and I was only in the hydra with Pine because he usually does poorly day 1, and I tend to do less good in days past day 1 and need somebody to bounce thoughts off of.In post 164, DeasVail wrote: In post 152, DkKoba wrote:
In post 144, DeasVail wrote:
I think xofelf, mala, aisa and ydrasse are town
that seems like a very arbitrary list of 4 - can you ellaborate?
xofelf - I don't thiiink I've played with xof as scum? But this sounds like xof-town. The initial vote on me had the right level of spunk, and the subtle confidence in being able to read DGB were good signs imo.Xalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
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That's the one. My fuckery of a sleep schedule has caused me many a trouble in games. I also wanted to put it in my posts for easier access when I woke up. And it keeps me accountable to say in thread if I'm gonna do something like show up or specific investigation of people cuz I'm forced to do the hard things because I've told other people who can then *also* bug me about it if I don't.In post 181, Ydrasse wrote: also they might have just wanted to be here for the start and then slept
Stating intent to give vibeslist when brain can do the long words.Xalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
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Titus says Mala town, which I wasn't quite sure on, but given mastina's responses it makes Mala's tone feel more genuine to me, so I believe Titus' read on her. I want to confer with my team first on whether I think Mala's read on mastina is right, cuz I was reminded of something relevant but need to find it.
I know I do a lot of noncommital vague word salad at times, but I can't parse what Arko's 201 is trying to say. Think you could give the specific posts and people you're talking about?Xalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
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*but even I can't parseXalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
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Okay, that helps a little, thanks Arko.
But also, idk if it's just you seem to be going about how you think about people and share thoughts in much the same way I tend to, but I think I like what you've said so far. I literally just did something similar to your thoughts bowl in Election that Shea just ran.Xalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
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DGB! Been waiting for your presenceXalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
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Yeah, see that's the thing I'm also keeping my eye out on. Cuz I remember from the Team Mafia the ratio of bits and looking like thoughts was much much higher when she was scum. But she's not doing the other thing I've been keeping an eye out for, which is like overly defending somebody in a way that looks closer to buddying. But she hasn't really done that where I feel actively concerned, so i'd put her slightly higher than null. Titus also said gun to her head, she'd say Ydra town and I'm inclined to believe her.In post 237, Aisa wrote: But there is this one thing that bugs me:
I feel like the (look like I have thoughts) to (thoughts) ratio in her ISO is quite high. Mostly because (look like I have thoughts) is so high. She has a supremely easy to follow ISO at the moment because every little action and implication is made explicit. This is pro-town but perhaps something scum are even more incentivised to do than town?
DGB's entrance is what I was hoping to see from her.Xalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
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No it's pretty true. I tend to get overwhelmed by reading up AND posting in the same day if I've got more than like 5 pages to read. I can read thread with very little brain effort, but analysis/vibechecking takes a very specific amount of energy that doesn't always come around. And since I don't often realize it's been how many days since I last posted, I get prodded more than I mean to be.In post 262, Ausuka wrote: (and that xofelf is kind of prodge-prone in general, sorry xoffy)Xalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
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Vibeslist(no particular order):
Ausuka - idk what a Ausuka scum game looks like, or if I do it didn't stick in my head enough. But I feel good about her, nothing has made me wrinkle my nose.
Aisa - it's funny, i have a strong good feel about her but to make my vibecheck easier, i iso'd her and she has so many less posts than I thought she does. But both Titus and wgeurts think she's town, so that doesn't bother me so much.
DV - This is the good DV posting. If he didn't have some longer ones clarifying what led him to vote the way he has, I'd be much more concerned. It feels a specific kind of way when DV is against you in something(of which I have *much* experience xD), and this ain't that.
Arko - i'd like to see more from Arko. i think they think much in the same way I do when it comes to looking at people, but i'm gonna need more. There were a few things that made me wrinkle my nose, but not so much i need to yeet this into a firepit. So nullish.
DGB - she did a lot with her window of time here, i like this DGB. from what I remember in Ladies Night 3, there's an aggressiveness and cockiness from scum!DGB that I'm just not seeing here. This is subject to change though.depends how often she pops back in saying she's sorry she forgot about the game.
IVD - This is a weird slot. like not bad, but.. there's a couple of times where in a post the tone shifts in a way that doesn't quite feel right. Not that it's fabricated or anything, just.. unless they respond in realtime as they read through a post, i wouldn't think tone would shift halfway through a post rather than being the same tone throughout? I need more from him, null to nosewrinkly.
mastina - girl, as a person i'm fond of you, as a player reading through you is always the hardest my eyes glaze over halfway through a paragraph. but that's on me more than it's on you. Actually though, other than your endless links post which feels like drowning in homework, your posts aren't that bad this game. I do have a question for you though. When Mala brought up that you do mason-claiming as a bad thing, it reminded me of something I had seen in a game ages and ages ago. So I was wondering if you could tell me which game this post from Mainstream Mafia II is referencing and whether it's worth considering as part of your mason meta discussion. Otherwise, i think you're fine.
Ydrasse - I touched on this a bit, I like this Ydra. There's things I'm gonna watch out for if I need to re-evaluate, but this feels like real Ydra, even with her bits, rather than performance Ydra, even with her content posts.
Mala - The first few posts seemed fine, but there's a stronger aggressive presence here than i expect to see from Mala at all. It's probably just frustration and my nosewrinkle is at the intensity of the posts, it just seemed not like the kind of stance Mala would have. That being said, her reasonings in the posts are pretty logical and understandable so this is probably town with strong no bullshit tolerance. There were posts since I started this post, and the back and forth with Shirou definitely is some understandable anger.
Koba - idk what to do with koba. I think they're good? but they have this way of putting me on my guard with how they post. It's like peak fite me energy. Which isn't really AI, but it does influence some of how I see their posts. That being said, I see what they're doing as trying to sort people which is a good thing.
Kowahbunga - whomst???? We've got one post from this guy and it's just "oh, there's 10 pages already. this is a tomorrow problem". And I don't love that at all, even with mentioning the vla. Idk, I'm waiting for him to give us anything. But the bad pool currently has your name on it.
Shirou - The rp is cute and kinda funny. Up until recently, I don't get why so much attention towards Mala in that way. Like... it feels like purposefully getting her riled up again which I don't see how that helps at all? At least not with Mala specifically. There's other players here that you'd learn something from if you approached them that way, but I don't think Mala is one. I could also like the RP enough that I don't look at you closer which worries me about you. But you're probably good.
I'll organize into town pool, null puddle, and nosewrinkles later if anybody needs me to. But like... later, been at this for an hour and body pains are demanding attention.Xalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
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Ah okay, I didn't notice what time it was posted, completely valid then. My apologies.In post 308, Kowahbunga wrote: In post 306, xofelf wrote:
this is a tomorrow problem
When you've been out of town and it's 230am before you had a chance to look at this thread, yeah it's a tomorrow problem. Well technically a today problem but an after I get some sleep problem for sure.Xalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
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That's fair, I just didn't recall seeing it before so it took me by surprise.In post 311, Malakittens wrote: As for xo:
I can be notably aggressive in games. I can also be notably passive in games. It just depends on how I feel that exact moment.Xalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
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I'm sure it's just a style of Shirou's, but personally 5-7 posts in a row *bug* me. I also disagree with the perception of Ydra. Like, I don't think less *twirls hair* posting means anything. In fact if there was more of it, it would feel fabricated cuz she's just not got that same kind of energy here in this game. This feels like the most RL day to day Ydra I've seen in a game, which makes me think she's town and I'd need something really big and egregious to think otherwise. That being said, i don't think Shirou is scum for posting what they have. I follow why they would think what they did, and the reconsidering didn't come across like some fabricated something.
I hate that Italiano post. Like, there's this smug undertone to it. There's always this undertone that doesn't match the words in most of the posts, and it is driving me batshit. Especially when it changes halfway through the post. I also disagree with his teammate's view on DGB. She is very useful while she's alive, especially as town. She's very good at getting specific reactions with things she says and applying pressure that helps sort people. Maybe that doesn't mean anything to you and your team, but it does to me. And at this point yeeting her doesn't actually give any information one way or another. Right now all we have is her post live reacting to Aisa's post, which while I don't agree is scum Aisa, I can follow along with her process there. I'm not interested in a DGB vote until there's some kind of information to gain from doing so if she is town like I think she is.Xalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
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I've got plans tonight, but yeah, I'll dig through your iso again when i can and give you which posts bugged me the most. Sorry you're not having much fun anything in particular that could help with that aside from the obvious being scumread sucks and is a moodkiller?In post 466, ItalianoVD wrote: Frankly I'm not really feeling this game and have been trying to have fun and trying to connect with this playerlist, but it's just not happening. When everything you post is scumread without any semblance of actual sorting it gets old fast.
Don't really know what to say about it. Example(s)?In post 465, xofelf wrote: There's always this undertone that doesn't match the words in most of the posts, and it is driving me batshitXalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
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I think you accidentally a word here. Is it more sucky from people who *have* played with you, or haven't and don't know your scum vibes? Which, I would be curious for an example so I can compare.In post 473, ItalianoVD wrote: It really sucks when it's from people that haven't played with you and actually know your scumgame or scumrange.Xalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
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@Shirou: Titus says she would like a cookie.Xalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
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She's also reading atm for me.Xalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
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Titus had the following reads:
null town for DV
koba town
mastina town
IVD on page 6 and 7 she didn't like, probs scum
shirou and IVD possibly scum buds given Shirou's reacting to votes on IVD to counter on that, and then after Mala votes IVD too, chainsawing into her.
DGB also town.
Which largely lines up with some of what i already feel, though i didn't notice Shirou's actions given the volume of posting there.Xalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
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She did realize like halfway through that she might be confusing you with Shiro but figured you'd clear it up depending on your response.In post 494, Shirou wrote: For last Ali said for me to tell Titus that I'm not the player "Shiro" (that I think still uses a avi from No Game No Life?) if she's perhaps confusing me.Xalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
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I mean, I appreciate that. But I am curious what specifically about that post spoke to you?
Intent to get to that IVD iso as promised either tonight, or first thing after catching up what gets posted from now til I wake up tomorrow.Xalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
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Alright, cool, thanks. Just helps to know what I'm doing right, ya know? And gives me a sense of how you think in the process too.Xalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
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Disclaimer: I've had about on average 3-4 hours of sleep the past 3 days, so I'm not confident this isn't incoherent. I'll try to clarify where I can if need be.
So I did go back through to see if I could find the things that were bugging me, and it seems they bother me somehow less in iso than they did when i was reading them in real time. Some it was just one post was a harsh brand of sarcasm followed up by a cheery nice post within like minutes of each other. But these were two that stuck out in particular ways:
This one does the normal tone to something harsher than I'm expecting in response, and it ends really dismissively.In post 322, ItalianoVD wrote:Why are thinking I should I be voting you?
Ahhh, don't answer for me.In post 229, Shirou wrote:Inactive vs Active suspect dilemma? Welp, he can reply himself I guess
either way, just want to say Ali has said for the fifth time to vote Kowah because she's townleaning most active players
but as I stand here,
I realize,
that I'm gonna bully her again and say no.
Oh dang, was it something I said?
You gotta elaborate on this, cause this is just silly.
Then this one just has this tone of condescension throughout that I don't particularly love. Like, this isIn post 460, ItalianoVD wrote:
Explain. In your own words.In post 401, DkKoba wrote: iirc last night pb said that 375 was bad enough that it should be buried now
Welcome to the Koba show.In post 402, DeasVail wrote: Hey Koba I feel like you ask a fair bit of me but when I try to get an idea of where your thoughts are at, I either get a dismissive response or none at all. It feels as if you’re putting on a show for certain slots that you’re relying on townreads from, while ignoring others.
Fair. Same for you.In post 406, Ausuka wrote: It was intentional - I don't think going back and forth on it is going to be productive. I don't think if you are town there is anything I could ask that would make what you were saying more believable to me at this point. I'd rather just take it into account and see what you do going forward.
Last time I checked Koba was playing this game not pink ball.In post 428, DkKoba wrote: VOTE: italiano pb saw something and now I want to kill this bc I think it's like 99% flipping scum
But since we're talking teammates, Drixx and Cerb told me DGB is useless and should be scumread for existing, and if she is removed from the game and is town there will be no material loss.TeamMafia, why wouldn't you be relying on your team to back you?? That's the whole point???? And it's not like Koba isn't giving their own thoughts and reads and solely playing as a translator for their teams thoughts and reads. Koba is an acquired taste, and none of that flavour is missing in what they post so I don't get why the undertone to this post is so strong.
Also, the AtE didn't work for me. It did hit all the places that would make me feel guilty or bad for unfairly treating somebody and changing my stance because of those feelings. It read as intentionally trying to get those reactions with the word choices, as well as the tone.
While I think I misread some of the tones in things, I still don't feel great about you. I just feel like I'm missing *something* from you, but I'm not quite sure what it is. Maybe it's like the kind of dialogue between players where there's a genuine attempt to make sure both are on the same page in the same way. Maybe I'm just sleep-deprived, but idk your iso seems to have thoughts and opinions that you want other people to have, not like "hey, i'm seeing this, anybody wanna check that and make sure we've got the same idea about this?". It's that mutual cooperation and information exchanging and co-analysis I'm missing I think.Xalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
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I hate to disappoint, but that probably isn't gonna change until we've had some flips. Like, I tend to need some actual confirmable information to have a direction I want to go in. Best I can do is focus on one person at a time to at least see if anything sticks out in a need to yeet immediately type of way. It kinda felt like the game is at a particular stalemate where we're all just waiting for *something* bigger to show up, or maybe that's just a lot of where I'm at personally. I've also been pretty exhausted the past few days so it's not just lack of energy in game as much as it is that's just me right now in RL.In post 751, DkKoba wrote:
It's really just a lack of any energy that I would describe as towny or any discernable direction of play.In post 749, Shirou wrote:
I'll correct my past self actuallyIn post 746, DkKoba wrote:
I would likely move up my PoE of which next I'd xof but at the same time reeval any townread slots that may have been based on italiano ->It's important to note I read ppl independently, sort by towniness, and then look at plausibility of being teamed.In post 745, Shirou wrote: If Italiano flipped town where would you look next?
Your xof scumlean is your unique take I feel it's distinctly "original"/novel from you this game so far
Wanna expand on it? I don't think you did in your past posts?
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Oh also,Unvote. Thought I already did.Xalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
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Oh, it's not hesitant to place a vote on him as much as I was hoping to hear back from him, and *then* I would vote there or if response was good enough and I re-evaluate, find a vote someplace else, possibly Arko. I'm not really a vote hopper, I vote when that's the person I want to yeet outside of RVS, and don't vote too often. I just want a little more beforehand, that's all.Xalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
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It's they, thanks.In post 867, ItalianoVD wrote: Xofelf is mainly gut that's why he's a weak scumlean. Reason being I feel like he is in the background looking at everything happen, but not really getting involved unless it's something he feels he needs to get involved in. Kinda like a referee. I've seen scum play like him, but to be honest after reading his ISO again, I didn't really feel like I initially felt, so lol I guess I gotta push him up a bit. Is there like a weak weak or very very weak scumlean color to use.
But also, that's not an unfair characterization of my playstyle. I'm much more observatory than anything else, and I do get scumread for it a lot, but it's never been a correct scumread and it still isn't now.Xalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
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It's okay, mistakes happen. It's at least the wrong one that makes me laugh more than it hurts.
I'll respond more when I'm not in bed cuz phoneposting sucks but your catchup seems decent, it at least has enough it can be more of a conversation which is what I'd like to have more of.Xalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
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Hey Penguin, I unvoted as of 754.
My intent today is to try to dig into this body pain and Taskmaster at 4 allow. But it is a bad day on the pain front, so it may be very late before this happens so pain meds have a chance to work.Xalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
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Wait... Arko only has 14 posts? I knew it was low, but not like that. he also hasn't posted since Thursday. Feels a little something that in 341 he calls Kowahbunga out for being V/LA but posting elsewhere on site and in that same post promises to come back after doing stuff and we don't see him for 2 days. There's more apologies in this iso than content, which like, i know i can be guilty of sometimes but i find it harder to get away with doing that here in Team Mafia where I have teammates. Like if it's just me, I can justify posting less to the point of prodging most of the time, but my team needs me so here I am. Maybe Arko's team dynamics is different but it feels a type of way.
Gonna poke some at the updated list:
Before that post Arko hadn't been on site since post 341 and came back in post 504/623, with big content in 650. I had had 7 post between 341 and 504, a fair bit of few with content so saying I wasn't here at all is just provably incorrect.In post 650, Arko wrote: Xof- Felt towny but is just as here as I was 2 hours ago. AKA gone for 2 days and I was sleeping.
By Shirou is there, is the implication that Shirou doesn't post??? cuz buddy, have i got some news for you. Shirou currently has the most posts with over 200 in this thread, 6 of which were on the page Arko was popping in on as he did his update read. Again, provably false.In post 650, Arko wrote: Shirou is there I guess. Imma say town but could change easily.
The only real content before he gets into the wagons, is the "thoughts" shared from teammates, of which there is one about Koba and nothing else. The rest of the update is just blanket statement of change, but not what prompted the change. But also, there being *little* that changed feels funky.
But the wagon thoughts are just.. not at all looked into.
Mala's wagon has a comment about the amount of votes not really making it a wagon(which the most recent votecount before the post had only 1 vote on Mala), but *most* of the people who had votes only had 1, so why that comment here? And my vote on DV was from RVS which 5 seconds checking could have cleared up. The only strong opinion was about Italiano votes. Like yeah it looks like this post took them an hour from the initial "i'm here and reading" but I'm not really sure what that time was spent on because there's so much little here.
Last thing Arko said before dipping for 2 more days was a probably would iso Ausuka, but there was tons of time and he wasn't particularly worried. I dislike this more than I currently dislike Italiano(he's on a bit of an upswing here) so,
VOTE: Arko
But I also would really like some mastina and Aisa posts. I'm not sure what to think about mastina and would like more from her, and Aisa has had good thoughts presented in a way I like reading so I just want more of that.Xalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
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My Arko vote and read didn't come as a reaction to the Ausuka wagon. I had said earlier that after Italiano did his catchup that I was planning on looking over Arko if Italiano had improved at all, which he did. I had started my Arko iso read before I saw that DV had also recently voted, but like I also think this is town DV so it didn't bother me when that showed up in preview. That being said, I'm willing to vote elsewhere if that's what the town wants to do.
But I also don't think this is scum!Ausuka though. So i'd much prefer not to vote her.Xalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
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Will do in the future <3
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Rats. I was really hoping for more Aisa thoughts today.
Free tomorrow to look at things, today was and continues to be busy.Xalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
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I'll have more time later today(i hope) to engage some more, but the tl;dr reasons for why I don't want to vote for Ausuka are as follows:In post 1271, Shirou wrote: @Everyone but DeasVail and Koba
Please. I need everyone's reads on Ausuka. I want to know why she's towny to you and if you don't find her towny, why not consider voting her today post italiano flip?
1) She's made a claim, she also made this claim in our hood incredibly early and she has not changed anything about that. Additionally, I think she's got one of those roles that is pretty provable, and I'd rather either clear her that way or if shit doesn't happen the way she says, she's yeetable the next day and I think she knows that.
2) Ausuka is a dear friend, and while I've not played too many mafia games with her, I have played and seen her play other games. And her approach to this game both in tone and words chosen read exactly the way I'd expect them to in a genuine way.
3) I recently replaced her in a mafia game where our slot was town, and she had the same kind of posts and even the same kind of reaction to butting heads with somebody here as she did there IMO.
So like, it's not so much I don't want to vote her just because she's town, but because I think she's sortable if given at least one more day. I also didn't read her interactions with Italiano as tvs. It was a styleclash and personalityclash there rather than alignmentclash. And I think we all know that if the clash is bad enough, you just read the other person as scum. It happens all the time.Xalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
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Oh I'm with you on that, it's very much where I'd like to start the day's conversation. Like.. I was hoping Freedom would come in and give a little more after the two flips, but that intro post is nothing which hasn't made me feel any less bad about that slot. I was busy today so I hadn't gotten a chance to dive into anything, but I'd asked the hood, and I'll ask here too, does anybody have past game experience with Freedom(I think it's implied Shirou does?)? Just a quick too long, never gonna read on what to expect from them would definitely help me see if there's anything other than this slot is just yeetable.In post 1304, mastina wrote:
Speaking of Freedom:In post 1261, DeasVail wrote: the main people of focus for me today will probably be DGB, Freedom and Mastina.
Did y'all forget that yesterday, Freedom came in as an L-2 elimination candidate, didn't claim, did absolutely nothing, and hasn't posted anything of note...
...And after the COUNTERWAGTON TO FREEDOM flipped town (the Italiano wagon was IN RESPONSE TO the Freedom wagon)...
...Just wrote it off because idk, reasons?
'Cause I didn't. I might be crippled as fuck right now but I sure ain't gonna forget that y'all let Freedom go free--for absolutely NO reason.
Why hasn't there been more talk about Freedom today?
Also, I really hope you feel better soon mastina, or figure out what's going on so it can be fixed. *hugs*Xalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
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Sure, but of what you read, what thoughts do you have about people? Like, a lot of why your slot was in trouble was also from not reading much or being present. Busy is fine, but I'd really like some kind of content here from you.In post 1321, Freedom wrote:
I think you're neglecting that Italiano self-hammered and I was offline half the time before day ended due to Anzac Day.In post 1304, mastina wrote:
Speaking of Freedom:In post 1261, DeasVail wrote: the main people of focus for me today will probably be DGB, Freedom and Mastina.
Did y'all forget that yesterday, Freedom came in as an L-2 elimination candidate, didn't claim, did absolutely nothing, and hasn't posted anything of note...
...And after the COUNTERWAGTON TO FREEDOM flipped town (the Italiano wagon was IN RESPONSE TO the Freedom wagon)...
...Just wrote it off because idk, reasons?
'Cause I didn't. I might be crippled as fuck right now but I sure ain't gonna forget that y'all let Freedom go free--for absolutely NO reason.
Why hasn't there been more talk about Freedom today?
The wagon very well could've fallen back to me.
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DGB i'm not 100% sure i'm confident on my town read of her, but it's not like really through anything she's said or done. She just feels like DGB how I expect her to feel. I think I need to iso her and see what shakes out.
I find this incredibly flattering, and I agree with you that this definitely applies to DV, it does make me have a particular question. How could you possibly have any sense of my scum game capabilities? I think I've only rolled scum like 3 or 4 times ever on site so I'm wondering which skills you mean. Tbc, I do mean this in a genuine curiosity way, not that you're saying it as some kind of play or I'm feeling defensive or offended.In post 1328, mastina wrote: Both are individually quite town imo, but both have the scum skills deeming them worthy of the respect of not hardclearing them.Xalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
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No alt that I know of, just those of us who mention meta just played with her that long ago. Like, the one game I brought up that she and I played, Ladies Night 3, was all the way back in 2014. We've all got joindates before yours, and mastina is her second? third? account, i forget but her original join date is also old af. You've got Shea on your team, I'm sure he also has played with DGB back in the day, might be worth asking him about if he remembers.In post 1343, Ausuka wrote: Btw, re:meta, am I missing something? I feel like people are townreading her based on meta but she hasn't played for years, does she have an alt or something?Xalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
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Those are some interesting thoughts Ydra. Need to give them some time to marinate in my brain when I'm not sleep-deprived, but you might be on to something.Xalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
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He might just be right! Like, I'm not as married to my DGB townread today as I was feeling yesterday. When she did show up, in comparison to other slots, her vibe was in the box I expect her town to fall in much more so than other people were presenting. It doesn't mean she's not scum, just something I'd need something more nonsensical from her along with promises to catch up/read that never follow through.In post 1374, Ausuka wrote: Shea also thought dgb was scum! Although he said he didn't remember much about her metaXalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
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No that's like, completely fine. I can't say I've had anybody call me a competent player either, so that's all nice and fuzzy, thank you.In post 1383, mastina wrote: Honestly, I dunno. I guess I kinda just assumed? You're a competent player, I just kinda assumed that competence extended to scumplay I guess.Xalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
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You know, you bolding the posts in the way you did made me re-evaluate them a little. Like.. Kowa has lucked into being on a team that has somebody on it who would know the right words that might comfort any suspicion I would have on the slot. The only thoughts I had before was just whomst is this guy? So it does feel like a lot of "how fast can we get xof to think goodly of us?" when put into this context, Shirou. Whether that's just conspiracy brain kicking in here or not, I do appreciate you highlighting that particular progression. That and your posts since..was it yesterday? whenever you said you were gonna do less of a bit and apologized to people, are really just confirming my good vibes and I like how you're thinking.
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Slight v/la til MondayXalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
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Yeah, I gotta say this whole situation is pretty sus, Koba. I'm half asleep atm so I'm not quite sure I'm following all of everything here, but between hammering yesterday and what you're saying your role is and all.. idk man, are you going to flip anything but scum?
Regardless, yesterDay went by way too fucking fast, anybody ending this Day before people have had a chance to weigh in and look at things is at best anti-town.Xalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
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In post 1496, Shirou wrote: I've been talking on game theories with my team tonight and have to address some stuff later, probably in the weekend when I've the time.
I think there's some bulletpoints that need to be discussed before we end the day even if Koba is almost confirmed scum yeah.
Agreed to both. I've also asked my team about some things and I'm waiting to hear back. And there's plenty to discuss.In post 1498, Shirou wrote: do NOT put Koba under E-1 as well by the way
They can self-vote to deny us day discussion.Xalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
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Personally, I just need a little bit so the day isn't just a vote like yesterDay. Because Koba does have a point that, they don't have too many people that could be pointed at as being in their team. I'd like to at least have some sort of plan going into tomorrow, cuz we're just as screwed if we did fuck it up.Xalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
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Oh I agree with you. I just want to see what they say, most specifically what exactly did they do last night.Xalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
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You must have missed it, but Koba, I wanted to know what exactly did you do last night?Xalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
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Yeah see, I don't think that's all you did last night. In the hood, you said you were going to target Ydrasse, and the only role that targetted Ydrasse last night was the one you've today confirmed that you have. I think you used your multitasking to roleblock Shirou, and send in the Nightkill on Ydrasse.In post 1589, DkKoba wrote:
I already outted results but: n1 Mala, n2 shirou.In post 1583, xofelf wrote: You must have missed it, but Koba, I wanted to know what exactly did you do last night?
Was trying to catch a deepwolf killing
VOTE: KobaXalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
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Roaming means you can only target somebody once ever.In post 1622, DrippingGoofball wrote: What does Roaming do? I'm too lazy to check.Xalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
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Yeah hi, I'm a Town Loud Roaming Role Watcher Neighbor. N1 I watched Ausuka, N2 I watched Ydrasse, N3 I watched mastina.Xalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
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Nope, I didn't really out any plan. But I'm not in a neighborhood with Shirou. My neighborhood is Ausuka, and DV.Xalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
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Oh, no results on N1 or N3. So actually, yeah, Shirou's just straight-up lying.Xalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
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I also had outed my N2 results being that Ydrasse was targetted by a Multitasking Roleblocker, aka Koba.Xalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
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It's not. Like, I feel like putting all the scum in the same neighborhood isn't something that would happen? Maybe 2, so it could still be DV/koba, but I don't think DV's posting in hood and in thread is how he'd post as scum.In post 1648, Ausuka wrote: If the team is koba xofelf and deasvail I am going to cry and then stop playing mafia forever
P-edit: @Shirou I meant more that you had targeted mastina, but Ausuka is right that DGB said you'd been roleblocked so you wouldn't have shown up there. I also assumed you get told if you got blocked, but I guess that's not how anything works unless it's Loud, so I take that back.Xalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
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In post 1664, Freedom wrote: Upon doublechecking, xof claimed Role Watcher not Watcher.
Which is making me a bit less concerned.
Though, if possible, xof, can you confirm if any other roles visited Ydra that night other than Koba's Roleblocker?In post 1665, Freedom wrote: At least, I'm assuming you didn't tell us what you saw yesterday due to that.
Bolded the relevant part. And that is the only role that visited Ydrasse N2. I also watched her specifically because in the hood Koba had said they were going to target Ydra.In post 1591, xofelf wrote:
Yeah see, I don't think that's all you did last night. In the hood, you said you were going to target Ydrasse, andIn post 1589, DkKoba wrote:
I already outted results but: n1 Mala, n2 shirou.In post 1583, xofelf wrote: You must have missed it, but Koba, I wanted to know what exactly did you do last night?
Was trying to catch a deepwolf killingthe only role that targetted Ydrasse last nightwas the one you've today confirmed that you have. I think you used your multitasking to roleblock Shirou, and send in the Nightkill on Ydrasse.
VOTE: Koba
Which, yeah that's why I phrased things the way I said it.In post 1666, Freedom wrote: Or you didn't want to tip scum off, but I see no point hiding now.
That's also why I watched mastina last night.In post 1669, Shirou wrote: One of the reasons I targeted Mastina was because I thought that if she was town, she was very likely to die on N3.
I promise you I'm not, I just didn't roll VT for once.In post 1667, Ausuka wrote: I do think xofelf is just scum here but i want to think about it more / reread the hood
Titus also said this when I asked her to give me some VCA if she had a chance. But also because of the mastina vs. Kowah votecount when it was 3/3.In post 1669, Shirou wrote: The reason we suspected Mastina potentially bussing koba
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I'm aware how it looks, but that's not what I was trying to do. I just haven't had any motivation to do anything deeper than quick responses the past like week or so and as I told you in the hood, I've been waiting to hear anything back from my team because I was relying on their feedback to give me a jumping off point because once a game is out of day 1, I find it incredibly overwhelming where to go next and to focus my attention so aside from reading, any actual analysis that get started button never gets pressed. It's also why I don't play games super often, along with rolling a high number of VTs or town with not a lot of additional information i can consider confirmed to base my opinions on.I think xofelf's claim and timing, with like, their approach to koba looks bad - like it doesn't feel like there is much reason to claim there and it looks performative, like 'hi yes I am guiltying koba too I want to join the fun'. I like xoffy and we were in the hood together and they targeted me with their loud n1 and i think i was probably like... overly favourable to their play before, but their posts in thread are pretty underwhelming - for example on d3 they didn't really like do discussion and solving despite saying we shouldn't hammer koba early for that reason, only to then claim a second guilty on koba and vote.
Wrong, I didn't know that you were town, but I stand by saying that you're confirmable. I just needed you to claim *who* you were sending fruit to so that I could target that person and get the result that your role as you said it showed up. Like, that's literally it? I also mispoke at the time, because for some reason I thought alignment would come with the role with my night results cuz I've never played a Role Watcher before, so that comment about it not mattering was because I thought I would see that in my result, which would confirm you were what you said.Looking back in their iso in the hood, I think there was a kind of strange interaction where they said i was town cos my role is confirmable so they don't need to worry about me, I say something along the lines of 'I don't think fruit vendor is a town-only role' at which point they are just like 'well idk, it would confirm the role-claim is accurate, and I think you won't be difficult to sort' (paraphrased, obviously) - in hindsight it does kinda feel like they knew I was town and wanted me in their devious foxy pockets.Xalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
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Ausuka is in the same hood with DV, and Koba, and me. Which would be *three* scum in a hood. So this is incredibly unlikely.In post 1680, mastina wrote: {DeasVail(???), Ausuka(???)} -- in this team, there were two scum in the Koba hood, my hood was all town, and Ausuka was the scum in Shirou's hood. The scum have no claimed answers to break up the plethora of town power. What would be equivalent to a JK-Tracker-Doctor-Voyeur(well, voyeur-adjacent)-Rolecop? There's options, but given the presence of visiting and the importance of it, I kinda doubt this combo.
(still reading the rest of the mech post, which i appreciate)Xalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
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You know your hoodIn post 1685, mastina wrote:
Fuckin hell I need a bloody list of who's in what hoods.In post 1683, xofelf wrote:Ausuka is in the same hood with DV, and Koba, and me. Which would be *three* scum in a hood. So this is incredibly unlikely.
(still reading the rest of the mech post, which i appreciate)
Nobody gave me one when the hoods were revealed so I legit haven't had an idea of who's in which hood this whole game.
Mine is me, DV, Ausuka,Koba
Shirou, Mala, Arko/Freedom, ??
Are the hood associations I can tell from a quick search in thread. I know Italiano, Kowah, and Ydrasse said something about hoods but I'm not confident which. And DGB should also be in one.Xalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
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Something about today feels like theatre, but I'm having a hard time telling who is actually on the stage.
My original thoughts about D2 ending as fast as it did wasn't so much scum was in danger of being yeeted, as much as it was something about the discussion directions were why koba quickhammered. Not to mention, in hood right after, Koba did a lot of explaining about why they did what they did and it seemed sus then, and still sus now. Either way, the way wagons have gone and which people have ended up NK'd has exclusively felt like ways of killing specific trains of thought and discussion rather than to stop specific yeets. But I just haven't quite pinpointed *which* people were being discussed then. I need to do some re-reading and pray my brain is up for some analysis.Xalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
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mastina, it's not Shirou spam causing at least me not to summarize the hood and such like you asked, but mostly i just don't have the motivation to do that yet. I'm doing well just reading the thread in general atm. My spoons for word effort have gone missing. If I can shake myself into doing shit, and my hood friends haven't done it by then, I'll include that in my stuff.Xalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
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