Newbie 1546: Binary Trolls (Game Over!)

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #212 (isolation #0) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 6:30 am

VOTE: VDA

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #214 (isolation #1) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 7:39 am

Shiro, is there a reason you're not voting?

Too many people not voting in this game.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #217 (isolation #2) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 7:46 am

That's L-1.

That's also an unfair and loaded question to ask. How is he supposed to know why his predecessor bailed?

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #220 (isolation #3) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 7:51 am

Hi Nether,

Can you succinctly state why you're voting Shiro please?

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #223 (isolation #4) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 7:58 am

In post 221, Shiro wrote:
I asked why in his opinion does he think she bailed. You cannot disagree that it was a scummy move the way Carli bailed. So I would like to see his justification about it.

And I don't think it's fair that you're expecting him to explain someone else's actions.

It's a bad question.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #225 (isolation #5) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:05 am

In post 222, Netherspite wrote:

In post 170, Netherspite wrote:
@Shiro

So basically, I think you are scum because:
1. You never scumhunt and don't care about finding the scum at all despite saying the opposite.
2. You are answering on my questions with defensive manner, you still don't care about others.
3. You end up raging while I stated that I suspect you only slightly.
4. You are really concerned about being lynched (or speed lynched) while no one else except me is really suspecting you at this point.

Basically it's about his reaction to pressure and lack of scumhunting.
Also, putting someone at L-1 right after he/she was replaced out when it's 6 days until deadline does not look town-driven decision for me.

1. I agree with that reasoning.
2. Defensiveness does not equal scum. Common mistake.
3. Seems an expansion on point 2.
4. Seems an expansion on point 2.

I agree with the L-1 vote. I didn't like that much either.

PEdit - He's done nothing. So he can have my vote.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #227 (isolation #6) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:12 am

How can he justify what somebody else did?

Can you justify why Dyslexicon replaced out?

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #230 (isolation #7) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:24 am

Because TGGC cannot possibly know why Carli did what they did.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #261 (isolation #8) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 11:54 pm

So VDA has done exactly nothing all game.

How has he not accumulated some votes in that time?

Lurkers should always be watched closely, otherwise, active townies are left to fight it out between themselves whilst scum sit and wait for a wagon to jump on or just stay out of the way altogether.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #263 (isolation #9) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 12:30 am

I'd policy-lynch VDA just for setting a bad example as SE.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #290 (isolation #10) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:35 pm

Mod - I'm V/LA, emphasis on the LA because my ISP has shut down in my area temporarily. Not sure how long it will last

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #294 (isolation #11) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:28 am

Wait, so TGGC replaced Carli.

Carli claimed VT.

TGGC claims Town Doc?

That's what's happened?

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #326 (isolation #12) » Thu Oct 30, 2014 3:04 am

In post 309, Luca Blight wrote:I still don't get why Carli claimed VT when she did if she was Doc.

It wasn't an outright claim, it was a passing comment. I think the claim makes complete sense upon re-read.

In post 310, JohnnyFarrar wrote:The real doc should not counter claim if he's lying. I'd rather have a living hidden doc than trade him/her for 1 dead scum.

One for one is a fantastic trade. If anybody KNOWS TGGC to be lying, you need to CC straight away.

In post 313, JohnnyFarrar wrote:I'm not really into guessing at teams before we know anyone's roles. It's a field of paranoia that has little sway.

Yeah, associations before flips is not a good way to go about scum-hunting.

Sorry about the lack of acitvity. If my net doesn't get sorted today, I probably won't be able to post again until Monday.

I'll be looking at Shiro in-depth when I do get the chance, something bugs me about that slot.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #336 (isolation #13) » Thu Oct 30, 2014 11:27 pm

Phone posting.

I have been reliably informed that my internet is now working.

I will be getting around to this game when I get home in about 3-4 hours.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #350 (isolation #14) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 2:41 am

Nether, scum-reading me on associations is pretty bad play.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #352 (isolation #15) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 2:58 am

Why am I leaning scum?

Can you state it clearly and concisely in your next post please.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #355 (isolation #16) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 3:16 am

In post 353, Netherspite wrote:1. You with Shiro being the scumteam perfectly fits with your interaction after your replacement in. There were a number of reasons, I won't list them, please refer to my previous posts around my second Shiro vote.
2. Dyslexicon's reasoning for jumping onto Carli's wagon was the worst of all who jumped onto it.
and now third point is added:
3. You are too concerned about why are you looking suspicious.
Townie's concern is to find the scum.
Scum's concern is to not look suspicious.

1. Associations without flips/relevant information is a bad scum-hunting tool. Stop doing it. Can you quote the interaction you don't like?

2. I can't speak for my predecessor.

3. I'm a defensive player. Too many people make the mistake of defensive = scum, when it doesn't. I like to understand people's thoughts and reasoning, helps me figure out their alignment.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #357 (isolation #17) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 3:27 am

I had him as town early on in the game but he makes such huge posts that I generally just skim over them without paying much attention.

Something about his recent play has been raising flags, can't put my finger on it yet.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #360 (isolation #18) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 3:31 am

Yeah, I completely ignored that buddying BS that was going on.

I'll pay attention to you from here on out. I don't like reading what's happened before I joined the game as I think you can get a different vibe compared to reading as the game is going on.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #362 (isolation #19) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 3:38 am

Just my opinion.

Also, it's incredibly easy to make catch-up posts and look town in doing so (That's right, I'm looking at VDA)

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #365 (isolation #20) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 3:46 am

I just told you why I don't like to do it.

There are soooooo many walls to read, I can't be bothered with that.

I'll read from here on out.

PEdit - More people should vote VDA.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #377 (isolation #21) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 5:58 am

In post 368, JohnnyFarrar wrote:
In post 365, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:More people should vote VDA.

I submit that killing a lurker gives us fuck all to go on for d2 unless by some stroke of luck he's scum. Thoughts?

I submit that lurkers really annoy me and they are useless. I also submit that lurkers getting towards late-game is seriously bad for town.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #379 (isolation #22) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:15 am

You think I'm lurking? That's funny.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #381 (isolation #23) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:18 am

Nah, I've done nothing this game. Yet.

Where do we go from here?

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #383 (isolation #24) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:20 am

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #385 (isolation #25) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:22 am

I'm ready to help town.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #387 (isolation #26) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:24 am

I certainly hope so.

He's pretty much done nothing.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #410 (isolation #27) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 7:46 am

Look at how bad VDa is playing.

His catch-up is taking way too long and it's making him look town when he is doing nothing.

In addition to this, he won't be revisiting the game until AFTER deadline. In that case, he will have gotten through a whole day doing absolutely nothing.

Those votes on Shiro are really bad votes, I can only assume people are not reading.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #412 (isolation #28) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 7:51 am

I don't find his play so far very funny.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #413 (isolation #29) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 7:51 am

Nether could well be scum.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #415 (isolation #30) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 8:02 am

Will have to ISO him

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #417 (isolation #31) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 8:13 am

Are you reading Johnny?

Votes on Shiro are awful.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #418 (isolation #32) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 8:16 am

Hmm, why did I think Shiro had more votes than she actually does.

Gonna ISO Nether.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #420 (isolation #33) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 8:23 am

Scrap that.

Nether is town. So is Shiro. TGGC is town unless CC'ed as well.

One scum is in Tool/Johnny purely because stats say that replacements in Newbie games are most likely to be done by scum. I know I'm town and TGGC is conf. town for now.

Other scum could be Luca.

New developments coming soon.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #424 (isolation #34) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 9:10 am

In post 422, Netherspite wrote:
@BlueBloodedToffee

Are you serious about VDA? If so, you're not really convincing. Everyone can say "Look, he's scum! Vote him!" and it changes nothing...

Also, your logic in the last post...
[irony]If replacements in newbie games are most likely to be done by scum then half of newbie games should have like 3-4 scum.[/irony]

If there would be a Jester in this game I'd say you're one.

I'm deadly serious about VDA.

I've said why I think he is scummy. Are you expecting me to somehow elaborate on it when he has done nothing in the game?

Most newbie games don't have 4 replacements. Also, there are stats to prove what I'm saying is true.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #426 (isolation #35) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 9:12 am

I'm saying we should vote the people who are doing nothing, yes.

That includes GiF btw.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #432 (isolation #36) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 10:04 am

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=39739

Check out the replacement stats in this thread.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #441 (isolation #37) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 12:06 pm

You want to lynch a claimed town PR?

Not sure if you're being serious...

Also, Tool, I'm not arguing statistics. They're there for everyone to see

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #443 (isolation #38) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 12:10 pm

Oh, wait. I see what you mean now.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #445 (isolation #39) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 12:14 pm

In post 444, Netherspite wrote:

I can't get rid of the feeling that lynching Shiro is a mistake.
However, previous time I allowed myself to ignore the initial suspect and look for more deep and hidden motivations than there really were, it ended up with a mislynch of the wrong guy. So this time I'll stick with my initial suspect. I prefer logic over gut feelings after all.

The bolded is the scummiest thing I have read so far in this entire game.

VOTE: Nether

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #450 (isolation #40) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 12:18 pm

Jumping from target to target...because I have moved my vote the whole of one time? Pur-lease.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #453 (isolation #41) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 12:25 pm

Nah.

VDA is lurking hard. Taking way too long with his catch up as well. He won't even have caught up by deadline.

You just said something that I found pretty scummy and I voted you for it.

Where is the problem? How am I jumping around?

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #455 (isolation #42) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 12:35 pm

What you just did was incredibly scummy. It's a great reason to vote somebody.

You basically just tried to get yourself some town-cred if the Shiro lynch goes through. So we lynch her, she flips 'town', you say 'Aww, I wish I had listened to my gut, something was telling me she was town'.

If you don't like the Shiro wagon, then make sure you're not on it. Simple as that.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #457 (isolation #43) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 12:42 pm

I'm not buying it. You can have my vote.

Reads; Town - TGGC, Shiro

Null - Tool, Johnny, Luca

Scum - Nether, GiF, VDA

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #461 (isolation #44) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 12:50 pm

Gif for lurking.

Shiro because obvtown.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #464 (isolation #45) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 12:54 pm

I don't explain town-reads.

I prefer people to tell me why they're scum-reading who I'm town-reading.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #466 (isolation #46) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 1:08 pm

Nah, I'll explain all scum-reads. All of the time.

Explaining town-reads accomplishes nothing. Anybody can fake a town-read, whereas it's a lot more difficult for scum to fabricate a scum-read. Therefore, I like people to explain their scum-reads rather than me explain a town-read.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #482 (isolation #47) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 11:27 pm

I did ISO Shiro. I decided she was town.

You think she is scum. You're the one who needs to do the convincing.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #484 (isolation #48) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 11:45 pm

Shiro, name your top two scum please?

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #486 (isolation #49) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 11:48 pm

I don't explain town-reads.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #489 (isolation #50) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 11:49 pm

So, Shiro flips town, I'm scum.

Shirp flips scum, I'm scum.

That's a nice future lynch you're setting up right there.

Oh, sorry. Did I spoil the party?

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #490 (isolation #51) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 11:50 pm

Not can't. Won't.

It's your job to convince people she is scum, it's not my job to convince people she is town.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #493 (isolation #52) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 11:52 pm

If I thought she was scum, I would absolutely explain what I saw.

But, I don't. I think she is town.

I think you're scum. I explained why I think you're scum.

Happy?

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #495 (isolation #53) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 12:03 am

Yeah, I did. See 445 and 455

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #498 (isolation #54) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 12:09 am

It's a town slot now. No need to explain.

No, you didn't refute my argument. You tried, and failed.

Shiro, is there a reason you don't believe TGGC's claim?

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #500 (isolation #55) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 12:13 am

In post 296, GuyInFreezer wrote:I was planning to form a fullreadlist this morning but I'm being called in from my work as an emergency.
I'll form those tonight.

In post 431, GuyInFreezer wrote:Why is Netherspite getting voted?

(Hey guys I'm back for REAL this time. Sorry for being gone longer than I expected.)

So, how you getting on with that reads-list?

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #502 (isolation #56) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 12:35 am

In post 501, Netherspite wrote:So,
BlueBloodedToffee
is:

1. Does not explain any of his decisions.
- Won't explain town reads just because he does not like to.
- Something bugged him about Shiro. Won't explain because now he's town and he can use his nice excuse.

2. Voting for random reasons.
- At first he thinks that VDA is the best scum candidate just because he's the most lurking lurker.
- Now he does not care about lurkers and focuses me for no reason (no, I can't consider a single refuted argument about single paragraph a reason to vote someone).

To be honest, he does his best in convincing me into voting him.

Wrong.

Will explain scum-reads.
Won't explain town-reads.

I feel I have been very explicit on this matter.

Random reasons...how do you get random reasons? I have explained why I have voted who I have voted.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #504 (isolation #57) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 12:43 am

I'm glad we agree I'm not voting for random reasons.

Shiro, do you KNOW TGGC's claim to be fake? If you do, you need to say so now.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #511 (isolation #58) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 1:23 am

Let's not tell the potential Cop what to do.

Let's leave it to the other PR to decide whatever they want to do. Pointing them in a certain direction is a great heads-up for scum.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #525 (isolation #59) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 4:00 am

In post 524, Shiro wrote:Btw Blue in post 420 you said "scrap that Nether is town"

Did one post really make you do a 180 turn ?

No, I ISO'd him.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #533 (isolation #60) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 7:11 am

Shiro, can you not ask for votes on yourself please.

Thanks.

VDA, that's a bad vote.

Let's lynch Nether instead.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #535 (isolation #61) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 7:15 am

OK. You should stop town-reading Nether because of the reason I am voting him for.

Now that you have gone and checked why I'm voting him (go check) you will see he is scum, correct?

Good. Vote Nether please.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #539 (isolation #62) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 7:21 am

I don't explain town-reads.

Why do you think Shiro is scum?

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #541 (isolation #63) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 7:24 am

I have, but catch-up posts are just too easy to make look pro-town.

So, let's have a summary of your reasons for voting Shiro.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #543 (isolation #64) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 7:27 am

You trying to assess if there is support for you to switch your vote Nether?

That's pretty scummy.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #549 (isolation #65) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 7:40 am

In post 545, toolenduso wrote:

In post 466, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Explaining town-reads accomplishes nothing. Anybody can fake a town-read, whereas it's a lot more difficult for scum to fabricate a scum-read. Therefore, I like people to explain their scum-reads rather than me explain a town-read.

OK, so that's a reason not to explain townreads
unless somebody asks you to.
If explaining townreads doesn't accomplish anything, why not just humor the people who are asking you and do it? Is there some downside to explaining townreads I'm not seeing here?

There is a point to explaining townreads, because scum have to fake townreads just as much as they have to fake scumreads -- they have to make townreads look like they're coming from scumhunting and not from actual knowledge of the person's alignment.

Nah, it's very easy to fake town-reads. 'X is town because town-vibes from their posting, they look like they're trying to scum-hunt, they're asking lots of questions, gut-read' etc etc. ANYBODY can easily fake a town-read.

It's much more difficult to create a scum-read on someone you KNOW to be town when you're scum.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #551 (isolation #66) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 7:46 am

I'm saying you can state you're town-reading someone, but stating why is pointless.

I'm saying if you scum-read someone, you need to be able to explain why because, ultimately, you're trying to get them lynched.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #553 (isolation #67) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 7:51 am

I intend to tell you why your scum-read on Shiro is wrong when you tell me why you're scum-reading her.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #558 (isolation #68) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 7:55 am

Where did you explain your scum-read?

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #561 (isolation #69) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 8:34 am

In post 558, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Where did you explain your scum-read?

That's to both VDA and Nether for clarification.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #563 (isolation #70) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 8:45 am

I'm not withholding any information. I told you I'm town-reading Shiro.

Scum-reads are important. Not town-reads.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #567 (isolation #71) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 9:41 am

In post 564, JohnnyFarrar wrote:That is the most violently wrong thing anyone has ever said to me in this game. I'm uncontrollably vomiting.

I actually laughed at this. Like, out loud. Well done.

In post 566, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 563, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I'm not withholding any information. I told you I'm town-reading Shiro.

Scum-reads are important. Not town-reads.

That's certainly the case when you're mafia, however when you're town you don't have the answers in front of you, so Town reads are equally important.

Claiming Shiro is 'obv Town' is scummy because I have seen nothing to suggest this is the case, and you are refusing to explain it. The only players Shiro could appear 'obv Town' to are the mafia, who already know her alignment.

OK, you ready?

Shiro is town because; she's asking questions, she's scum-hunting, her wagon looks scummy, I'm getting town-vibes from her posts...have you realized what I'm doing yet?

I'm not explaining town-reads. End of.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #569 (isolation #72) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 9:48 am

Hi Johnny,

Why is Shiro scum?

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #572 (isolation #73) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 9:57 am

I'm not town-reading Shiro for the reasons I just stated.

So, there's that.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #584 (isolation #74) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 10:42 am

In post 567, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
Shiro is town because; she's asking questions, she's scum-hunting, her wagon looks scummy, I'm getting town-vibes from her posts...
have you realized what I'm doing yet?

I thought the bolded would have gave away what I was doing.

Evidently not.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #585 (isolation #75) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 10:43 am

In post 579, JohnnyFarrar wrote:I don't think anyone would act like that because it's dumb. Trying to read him or anyone else based on bad play is silly.

I'm actually fine with wasting time on this because if he wants to keep playing on this site with any success he's going to have to change this attitude.

Wrong. I'm a pretty good player actually.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #588 (isolation #76) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 10:51 am

This is why we should be voting Nether.

In post 445, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
In post 444, Netherspite wrote:

I can't get rid of the feeling that lynching Shiro is a mistake.
However, previous time I allowed myself to ignore the initial suspect and look for more deep and hidden motivations than there really were, it ended up with a mislynch of the wrong guy. So this time I'll stick with my initial suspect. I prefer logic over gut feelings after all.

The bolded is the scummiest thing I have read so far in this entire game.

VOTE: Nether

In post 455, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:What you just did was incredibly scummy. It's a great reason to vote somebody.

You basically just tried to get yourself some town-cred if the Shiro lynch goes through. So we lynch her, she flips 'town', you say 'Aww, I wish I had listened to my gut, something was telling me she was town'.

If you don't like the Shiro wagon, then make sure you're not on it. Simple as that.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #600 (isolation #77) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 11:46 am

I don't know...

Are you going to elaborate further?

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #607 (isolation #78) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 1:12 pm

You're trying way too hard to look town.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #609 (isolation #79) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 1:21 pm

Yeah, I am.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #611 (isolation #80) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 1:35 pm

That's not my problem I'm afraid.

Did you see why I was voting Nether? What do you think about that?

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #615 (isolation #81) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 1:57 pm

What do you think about him try-harding to look town?

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #617 (isolation #82) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 2:02 pm

Trying too hard...

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #619 (isolation #83) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 2:05 pm

I'm not talking about his activity levels, it's the content in his posts.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #621 (isolation #84) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 2:10 pm

In post 606, Netherspite wrote:I'll post my current reads
for the sake of providing information to the town.

Try hard.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #643 (isolation #85) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 11:15 pm

People questioning the doc claim are insane. He hasn't been CC'ed, therefore, he is conf. town until someone does CC him. Move on.

Shiro, you should be voting Nether. I feel it's you or him today, and I'd much rather it be him.

Look how townie that wagon on Nether is. So many townies on one wagon, Nether must be scum. Let's lynch him.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #646 (isolation #86) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 11:23 pm

Nether is really try-harding to be town. It's just too over the top.

You cannot say with 100% certainty that Nether is town. If you're town, you know you're town 100%. Therefore, if it's you or him, you have to vote him.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #648 (isolation #87) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 11:28 pm

I could get behind a VDA wagon, but I don't think that's happening toDay.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #650 (isolation #88) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 11:34 pm

Townies usually get lynched D1 because of the whole 7 town, 2 scum thing. It's no big deal.

Shiro is town. You're scum.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #721 (isolation #89) » Sun Nov 02, 2014 7:48 am

In post 700, Netherspite wrote:
Will you be online at like 1-2 hours before the deadline to hammer me to avoid a no lynch?

More try-hard to look town.

What exactly are you expecting from me Nether?

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #729 (isolation #90) » Sun Nov 02, 2014 8:40 am

I don't know what to do. That big post from Nether is really difficult to see coming from scum. But I really don't want to vote Shiro either, because I feel sure she is town.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: VDA

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #731 (isolation #91) » Sun Nov 02, 2014 8:43 am

Scum can make a big effort to avoid their death as well. That post just had town wrote all over it though.

Both the wagons are on town. We need to try and redirect quickly.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #737 (isolation #92) » Sun Nov 02, 2014 8:50 am

In post 736, Netherspite wrote:
@Shiro

Even if I'm wrong about you (which I doubt), it does not mean I'm wrong about anyone.
We had something like... 7-8 out of 9 players who voted someone who is either you or me (and you consider us both townies). Should we ignore all of their reads because of that?

Nether, Shiro is town.

Vote VDA

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #741 (isolation #93) » Sun Nov 02, 2014 8:51 am

In post 738, Netherspite wrote:VDA is town as well.

Shit...that a scum-slip?

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #746 (isolation #94) » Sun Nov 02, 2014 8:52 am

Nether, vote VDA out of self-preservation if you have to.

VDA is toDay's lynch.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #753 (isolation #95) » Sun Nov 02, 2014 8:55 am

In post 749, VictorDeAngelo wrote:Hey, BBT you actually explain scumreads right?

Why don't explain your scumread on me in detail?

Sure. I don't see anything that makes you town. Ergo, you're scum.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #756 (isolation #96) » Sun Nov 02, 2014 8:57 am

In post 744, VictorDeAngelo wrote:
In post 741, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
In post 738, Netherspite wrote:VDA is town as well.

Shit...that a scum-slip?

Player calls guy he is townreading, town. Stop the presses.

He was saying you're town

as well as

Shiro. The person he was scum-reading...

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #758 (isolation #97) » Sun Nov 02, 2014 8:58 am

I don't need anything better.

You're scum. You should get lynched.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #760 (isolation #98) » Sun Nov 02, 2014 9:00 am

Yeah, you posted it

after

you potentially slipped.

So?

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #767 (isolation #99) » Sun Nov 02, 2014 9:12 am

In post 763, Shiro wrote:
I told you I think TGGC is lying and is scum. But hardly any support for that lynch.

I'm really struggling to see why you're doubting an un CC'ed town PR.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #773 (isolation #100) » Sun Nov 02, 2014 9:19 am

We will sort out TGGC at a later date. That's not important right now.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #779 (isolation #101) » Sun Nov 02, 2014 9:25 am

Nether and Shiro, if you're both town please stop this.

We need to look elsewhere.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #784 (isolation #102) » Sun Nov 02, 2014 9:31 am

@Nether - Possibly Luca

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #796 (isolation #103) » Sun Nov 02, 2014 9:50 am

Luca looks like a good lynch.

VOTE: Luca

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #799 (isolation #104) » Sun Nov 02, 2014 9:53 am

Oohhhh, nice move VDA.

Let's see where this goes.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #803 (isolation #105) » Sun Nov 02, 2014 9:56 am

In post 800, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 796, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Luca looks like a good lynch.

VOTE: Luca

What possible reason?

Still think Shiro is obv Town?

Yeah, Shiro is town.

My biggest town-read.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #808 (isolation #106) » Sun Nov 02, 2014 9:58 am

In post 804, VictorDeAngelo wrote:
In post 799, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Oohhhh, nice move VDA.

Let's see where this goes.

Assuming you don't try to kill me off tonight then you should expect a vote coming from tomorrow. Just saying.

Are you saying if I'm scum I should kill you?

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #810 (isolation #107) » Sun Nov 02, 2014 9:59 am

In post 806, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 803, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
In post 800, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 796, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Luca looks like a good lynch.

VOTE: Luca

What possible reason?

Still think Shiro is obv Town?

Yeah, Shiro is town.

My biggest town-read.

Nether's 'case' against me seems to hinge on me and Shiro being a scumteam, so what's your excuse?

You look scummy?

Is that good enough? Man, I hope so.

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 10:00 am

Because both wagons are on town.

There is plenty of time to lynch scum. So, let's do that instead.

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 10:04 am

Seriously, if Shiro is scum I retire from MS.

Shiro and Nether are town. Tool is probably town as well. TGGC is town for now.

Scum is in Johnny, Luca, VDA and GiF/replacement.

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 10:06 am

Wow.

Somebody better state intent before hammering. That's an auto scum-claim otherwise.

That was a quick re-read before deciding your final vote Luca.

Lynching Luca sounds pretty good.

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 10:09 am

You don't need to claim until intent to hammer is stated.

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 10:46 am

Luca is a good lynch.

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 10:58 am

Yeah, I do Nether.

Can we vote Luca please.

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:01 am

I'm getting hints of town from VDA, but I'm not sure if that's from his posting style more than anything else, so I want some more time to figure him out.

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:08 am

Hi VDA,

Could you vote Luca please because Shiro is town.

Thanks.

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:11 am

Don't vote me. I'm town.

Luca is a good vote. You have to believe.

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:13 am

You shouldn't. Faith is important.

I'm town. Nether is town. Shiro is town.

All 3 are bad wagons.

Luca is a good lynch.

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:16 am

My scumdar just nearly exploded reading that ^^

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:18 am

This one works fine.

We should lynch you to see that what I'm saying is true.

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:20 am

Nooooo. I have to stop these wagons on town. It's against my win-con to allow town to get lynched.

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:24 am

I'm not trolling.

I don't want to lynch town.

PEdit - that was me VDA. But, when you're pretty confident in a town-read, you should try to steer the lynch elsewhere, right?

I'm building a town-bloc. It's looking good so far.

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:28 am

Town - Nether, Shiro, TGGC

Lean town - Tool, VDA,

Null - GiF

Scum - Luca, Johnny

PEdit - Don't OMGUS me Luca. That's bad.

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:29 am

Testing waters for my lynch.

Noted.

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:29 am

Around 10-12 I think.

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:30 am

16 actually.

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:32 am

In post 901, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Ok, so Blue.

You say Luca's done nothing to strike you as town, therefor he's scummy. Correct?

What makes him different than GiF?

(Luca you're like a drug dealer with all this tempting shit stop I'm clean)

I said that about VDA if I remember correctly?

Luca's posting looks scummy.

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:33 am

I'm not trolling.

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:35 am

In post 907, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 906, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I'm not trolling.

What do you call it, then?

I call it playing mafia.

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:37 am

Not sure if serious...

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:39 am

Holy shit.

You're running with that yeah?

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:40 am

Yay ^^

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:41 am

Grasping at straws Luca. You want me lynched that bad?

You know if I don't get you lynched today I'll just get you lynched tomorrow.

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:44 am

Nah, I won't die tonight.

I'll be around to lynch you tomorrow. Don't you worry about that.

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:45 am

And if I get my way, you won't even see N1

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:47 am

Have a think. I wonder why I will survive N1. Hmm.

You won't see N1 if I get my way so you won't get to make the choice of who to kill.

PEdit - VDA, ISO Shiro. Then unvote her, and vote Luca.

Thanks.

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:49 am

Nether, vote Luca.

Thanks.

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:53 am

Jesus Christ.

Can we lynch this fucking scum already. (@Luca obv)

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:55 am

Luca looking for any wagon that isn't him.

He don't give a shit who gets lynched.

Let's flash wagon Luca.

It'll be fun.

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:58 am

Definitely not any of those wagons Johnny.

Vote Luca.

I said you were trying a no lynch did I? No, I didn't

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 12:09 pm

Nether thinks I'm something that I'm not if I'm on the right track.

I think Nether thinks I am playing this way to draw a NK. But I'm not.

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 12:10 pm

Seriously, let's flash-wagon Luca.

I have to go to sleep soon.

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 12:11 pm

That VC is seriously bad for town.

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 12:17 pm

VOTE: VDA

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 12:18 pm

If I can't get Luca, and I don't think anyone is interested in a Johnny lynch, I can compromise on VDA.

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 12:22 pm

I'd love a Luca lynch.

I'm only awake for like another 40 mins or so though.

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 12:28 pm

Thoughts on lynching Johnny?

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 12:33 pm

VOTE: Luca

I'm going to sleep.

Sheep me and lynch scum.

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 12:46 pm

In post 895, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
Scum - Luca, Johnny

So, I lied. I'm awake.

Look at the first two people to try and start my wagon after specifically stating it was bad to try and wagon VDA when he wasn't here t defend himself.

Sheep me and vote Luca.

Seriously though, I got like half an hour.

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 12:48 pm

In post 976, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Convince me to quicklynch someone who hasn't claimed and won't be here to claim.

Johnny is probably a better lynch than Luca right now.

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 12:51 pm

We can wagon one of them and then Tool can hammer.

Providing Luca and Johnny will vote each other of course.

Johnny, you just went against everything you said for why we shouldn't wagon VDA.

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 12:53 pm

Johnny, you're flat out refusing to vote Luca to avoid no-lynch?

Luca, will you vote Johnny?

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 12:53 pm

Huge AtE from Johnny right now.

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 12:56 pm

Johnny is scum.

VOTE: Johnny

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:00 pm

I vote him, you vote him, Nether votes him, Luca votes him, Tool hammers.

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:10 pm

In post 1024, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:

Johnny, you just went against everything you said for why we shouldn't wagon VDA.

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:14 pm

Luca, I feel you're trying to divert away from a Johnny lynch.

Nether, look what I just posted about Johnny.

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:22 pm

His hypocrisy?

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:25 pm

Tool, check my ISO for why we should be lynching Johnny.

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:29 pm

We should really lynch Johnny today.

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:33 pm

In post 1078, toolenduso wrote:Blue, it seems like you went for Johnny because he didn't want to lynch Luca. That doesn't seem like great reasoning to me.

I'm not sure why Luca was on the table as a lynch option to begin with.

Who would be up for a Shiro lynch?

I want to lynch Johnny for his hypocrisy and his attack on me as soon as I 'went to sleep'

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:34 pm

Especially after claiming we shouldn't because he isn't here to claim/defend himself.

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:37 pm

30 mins and I'm off.

Up early and it's 12:40am right now.

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:42 pm

Shiro is worst wagon possible.

Seriously.

Fucking stp

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:44 pm

Like, seriously.

Fucking reading comprehension.

Lynch Johnny.

I'm also not voting Shiro at all. At any point.

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:44 pm

Shiro, vote Johnny.

Nether vote Johnny.

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:46 pm

Yessssss!

Vote Johnny.

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:47 pm

Luca, vote Johnny.

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:48 pm

Put your vote n separate line Shiro to make sure it's counted.

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:49 pm

YESSS!!!

Tool, hammer him.

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:50 pm

AtE from Johnny again.

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:55 pm

In post 976, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Why Blue. Convince me to quicklynch someone who hasn't claimed and won't be here to claim.

In post 994, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:VOTE: Luca

I'm going to sleep.

Sheep me and lynch scum.

In post 1003, JohnnyFarrar wrote:
We now have to pick someone to get up to L-1 and hope someone else shows up. I'm thinking Blue. Anyone else?

In post 1004, JohnnyFarrar wrote:VOTE: Blue

This is why Johnny needs lynching.

Hypocrisy at it's finest and mighty opportunistic to say the least.

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:58 pm

Stay strong on Johnny and we lynch scum on D1.

Tool, hammer please.

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 2:00 pm

Not over Johnny no.

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 2:00 pm

Nether, stay strong on Johnny please.

Let's end this day before I go to sleep.

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 2:18 pm

I haven't forgotten.

BlueBloodedToffee · Sun Nov 02, 2014 2:18 pm

Going to sleep.

Fingers crossed for scum flip.

BlueBloodedToffee · Wed Nov 05, 2014 11:57 pm

In post 389, Shiro wrote:
Infact if you asked me I would say my lynch wont be happening today XD

This is when I got a hint that Shiro was a PR.

She made references like this numerous times. Hence my annoyance and me telling people to ISO Shiro.

This is just a quick post, I'll post much more later.

I want to lynch VDA or Luca today I think.

BlueBloodedToffee · Thu Nov 06, 2014 8:02 am

Stop discussing doc claim.

Stop speculating on set-up.

BlueBloodedToffee · Thu Nov 06, 2014 8:08 am

In post 1192, Luca Blight wrote:
First it was thought Shiro and me were a scumteam, then Farrar and me, who's my partner in crime this time?

I clearly have no alliance with any other player in this game, and would like to think my actions yesterday before the lynch wouldn't really make sense from a scum perspective.

Have I ever said you and Shiro were a team? No. So don't try to use other people's thoughts and apply them to me, it doesn't work like that.

I thought you and Johnny could have been a team. If I wasn't so tired, I might have realised that actually you and VDA make more sense as a team. Hence why you were happy to pretty much lynch anybody late D1 because you knew we were all town and VDA had left the game for the Day.

How does that sound?

BlueBloodedToffee · Thu Nov 06, 2014 8:09 am

That applies to GM being a potential partner as well Luca.

I need to ISO you when I get some time.

BlueBloodedToffee · Thu Nov 06, 2014 8:10 am

We need TGGC to start playing.

I have a nice little town-bloc growing.

I want to invite Tool but I can't decide if he's town yet for some reason, struggling to get a read.

BlueBloodedToffee · Thu Nov 06, 2014 8:29 am

Why not what?

BlueBloodedToffee · Thu Nov 06, 2014 8:41 am

Because it's pointless.

Do you have anything to contribute to the game?

BlueBloodedToffee · Thu Nov 06, 2014 8:51 am

I don't think you have been contributing.

I think you have been speculating about the set-up.

ToDay is not the day to speculate about the Doc.

Wanna start contributing now?

BlueBloodedToffee · Thu Nov 06, 2014 8:54 am

I'll look more into Luca when I get the chance.

I also want to hear from GM.

BlueBloodedToffee · Thu Nov 06, 2014 9:08 am

I'm reading. I'm just seeing fluff and set-up speculation.

You realise there us two scum in this game right? Now, for arguments sake, let's assume TGGC is scum. Ŵe still have to find the other scum, so I propose this. We search for TGGC's 'scum-buddy' instead of risking lynching a potential doc and we re-evaluate D3.

How does that sound?

I love common sense. It makes things easy.

BlueBloodedToffee · Thu Nov 06, 2014 9:17 am

I can only assume that you don't know how to play mafia then.

Therefore, I'm going to choose to ignore you until either;

a) you start making sense

or

b) I find that you're my top scum-read and I want to lynch you.

BlueBloodedToffee · Thu Nov 06, 2014 9:21 am

Johnny and Shiro were town.

VT and Cop respectively.

BlueBloodedToffee · Fri Nov 07, 2014 4:04 am

Can't quite believe we're still trying to lynch someone who claimed Doc.

However, I am extremely dissatisfied with his answers and his play D2. I could easily see him being scum.

I would much rather try to find his buddy first, just in case he is actually the doc and is really bad at explaining his point of view.

I'm also asking that nobody hammer until GM has caught up. Interested to see what she has to say

BlueBloodedToffee · Fri Nov 07, 2014 4:13 am

You would have a better idea of the set-up depending on if your buddy is RB or not.

Who do you think is scum TGGC?

BlueBloodedToffee · Fri Nov 07, 2014 4:39 am

Luca, stop linking me to TGGC.

You're trying to line me up as the next lynch.

BlueBloodedToffee · Fri Nov 07, 2014 5:40 am

You're caught up GM?

BlueBloodedToffee · Fri Nov 07, 2014 5:46 am

Alright. Well we're waiting for you.

PEdit - I'm not sure yet VDA.

BlueBloodedToffee · Fri Nov 07, 2014 6:14 am

TGGC, the role PM's are on the front page.

Everybody and anybody can see them.

BlueBloodedToffee · Fri Nov 07, 2014 6:31 am

OK.

I'm ready to vote TGGC after GM catches up.

BlueBloodedToffee · Fri Nov 07, 2014 6:33 am

In post 1216, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I'm reading. I'm just seeing fluff and set-up speculation.

You realise there us two scum in this game right? Now, for arguments sake, let's assume TGGC is scum. Ŵe still have to find the other scum, so I propose this. We search for TGGC's 'scum-buddy' instead of risking lynching a potential doc and we re-evaluate D3.

How does that sound?

I love common sense. It makes things easy.

Hey, look at this guy saying exactly what Tool has just said only way before he said it.

Cool, huh?

BlueBloodedToffee · Sat Nov 08, 2014 1:54 am

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that TGGC could be town. Even if he is scum, I still think we should look elsewhere for today's lynch to find his buddy.

BlueBloodedToffee · Sat Nov 08, 2014 11:39 pm

In post 1303, VictorDeAngelo wrote:
Tell you what, why don't do this while Goodmorning catches up and tell us who you think we should lynch over TGGC.

I'd rather wait for GM to catch up first.

In post 1304, toolenduso wrote:
In post 1295, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Hey, look at this guy saying exactly what Tool has just said only way before he said it.

Cool, huh?

...and?

In post 1302, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that TGGC could be town.

Why?

And... Luca quoted your post which seemed to increase his town-read on you. Given he is trying to line me up as the next lynch by linking me to TGGC all the time, he couldn't give me credit for the post so he gave it to you.

I don't know. It seems a really bad argument for scum to just continue doing. However, newbscum really don't like to admit they have made a mistake so I don't know.

I have gone back to the idea that lynching TGGC would be a good idea today. Luca has to be lynched tomorrow.

BlueBloodedToffee · Sat Nov 08, 2014 11:59 pm

In post 1313, Luca Blight wrote:I find it highly ironic how you accuse me of lining up your lynch when that is what you were constantly trying to do to me (and certain others) yesterday, and are now clearly doing it here, yet that makes me scummy and you not somehow.

You are obviously TGGC's partner. If by some chance you aren't and you're just terrible and OMGusing, it is probably GM by process of elimination. Lynch You/TGGC over the next two days and we probably win, if not then lynch GM and we can all celebrate a Town victory.

Your view on TGGC has been all over the place, by the way, which only solidifies my view that you are his partner.

It's the way in which you're doing it. You're lining up either myself or GM, giving yourself enough mislynches to win the game (providing GM is town of course)

I would much rather lynch you today but I don't think the support is there.

Correct, my read on TGGC has been all over the place, so what? I really can't decide on him, and if he is somehow actually a Doc, I would be kinda pissed for not speaking out about how I felt.

Question: Why do I not get town-cred for making the same post Tool made (that you really liked) even though I made it before him? Is it because you wouldn't be able to line me up as a lynch? (Don't need to answer the second question, it's rhetorical)

It also explains why you were happy to lynch ANYBODY late D1. None of them were your buddy.