you like their push one second next beat you're saying its distancingIn post 2517, Kyoko Kirigiri wrote: all in all,
I still think von will flip red, and the other scum is in catgirl sunflower right now.
I think von is really capable of making this push to distance their partner as they are getting incriminated very soon when this duel goes down
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we really should talk after the gameIn post 2531, Kyoko Kirigiri wrote: i also dont wanna get banned on ms. this game doesnt matter that much to me.-
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This is a thing that happens when someone is just so focused on spinning a narrative.In post 2534, Sunflower wrote:
the vote came from me not fire lolIn post 2514, Kyoko Kirigiri wrote: You were publicly pushing me all day, and your push and vote on raven there felt more like a performance hunt than scum hunt.-
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we have under 24 hours
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It's okay, I maria have been solving under the assumption Kiri was town for like, all the phase so this is fine. At least, it is to me.-
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"Well what is your solve"
HA.
You think I'm gonna answer that in hood phase to help mafia with their NK.
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Here's how we prove this. We get certain dreams up and Silver/us vote for different things. When we're proven inno we vote Silver.-
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I have been summoned
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Twilight 1, reveal Vi Dream, pivot to Sheep dream in panic. Vi dream most likely picks Sheep Dream anyways. Vi isn't a inherently negative dream in this gamestate, it just probably always ends up being sheep dream or slide if wolves don't want to take any chances.In post 2626, Silver Ravens wrote: Alright, mass claim time since we are in limlo now. We're the dreamer, which makes us town (setup specific rule #1 says the starting dreamer is town). We do reveal a dream once moonrise phase ends, but not before then;we are working under the assumption that Ydrasse is the other person revealing dreams. This doesn't automatically make them town, but we noted that they learned from their usage during moonrise 1, and during moonrise 2 they revealed roles in a way where we'd be able to see both of the dreams before picking after discard, which seemed town motivated to us. We didn't want to draw too much attention to that, though,and I've been skeptical of their thread presence a bit.
During moonrise 1 our preferred dream was discarded, and then our revealed dream was a negative which allowed the mafia to steal the dream choice. During moonrise 2, we did choose to discard the dnd dream as Gif and I felt that the interaction between the dead hider and Aureal was unlikely to have been mistaken, and we got greedy for more. We talk about this a bit in 1392 but are trying to not make it too obvious that we are the dreamer with our wording, while keeping our vote on Aureal the whole time. The Superman dream sounded promising so we picked that. We ended up giving the reporter from that dream to Catgirl Chipotle. In hindsight we should have picked elsewhere as we don't trust Catgirl Chipotle right now, but they had rather different opinions from what we have seen from them recently.
Moonrise 3 was really interesting.Ydrasse revealed the tower after the mafia discarded something else, which was rather towny (without taking into account that the tower was a watcher, which she wouldn't have known), but then when the time came for us to make selections, we were told that our choices were hijacked for the phase. So the tower being revealedagainwas not our choice, and the watcher one shot did not go to a target of our choice either - we don't know where it went. We also did not get a choice for the second dream, what Enchant did with the ectoplasmic camera and the reporter dream on moonrise 3; but from the looks of things, that is possibly separate from the hijacking; the reporter dream was revealed and went into effect immediately with no time for anybody to make a selection before the mods moved on to the starting the day.
Twilight 2, reveal superman to see if we can get something better than dead neighborizer. We gave the Reporter to Silver Ravens because we thought GiF would use it well. They are now using this knowledge to try to claim early since I think this is how they think they win? Also, you can see my posting during night I handed out reporter, I wrote my posts about the reporter knowing full well the person who (would hopefully read that) would get the memo since they're competent.
Twilight 3, tower gets revealed early, we ask mod if we could just pick tower without revealing anything, there is a slight delay, mod tells us we can reveal teh same dream we want to pick even if it's already revealed, we reveal and choose to hand out tower to Dan. Dan fully know who we were and you can see this in our interactions. We don't need to reveal the other dream because why would we do that when we can put it back into the pool. It's hard to beat a watcher.
Unlucky that the choices ended up happening as they did.
This line of play only works for you if you know there's going to be no invention to hand out during this phase. All I need to do is pick the invention dream, hand it to a villager, and you lose the cc battle. Idunno what your plan is but ig we're about to find out?-
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Dan was well aware that we gave him that by the way, we (or more so I Maria) did an inside joke to Dan about giving the shot over. I guess the only play Silver has is saying scum can mess with dreams but I think anyone who can think over mech for 2 seconds can go:
1) If they could do that they probably would've done it sooner because watcher reporter shots is something you want to mess with.
2) Given we're the of dreamer they would've had the power to get dream choice later so why would they get the chance to mess with it to begin with.
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In post 1961, Catgirl Chipotle wrote: No one gets to take potshots at my darling Dan though. This means war. (If Von really is wolfreading Dan I'd like to know why cause they're my personal top TR)
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I have seen these gamestates a million times.
Usually when it's obvious that there are 2 people that are very much wolves together, going all-in on a cc battle vs 1 player (if you read Raven's post, I think you could figure out they were expecting to fight a CC battle with us), and those players can't make up a story on who that 1 player is teamed with, the 1 solo, individual player is likely just town while the other 2 are just wolves. This is why generally you see a lot of "Well, I think this person is a wolf, but I can't think of who could possibly be the second one!" That would be because there is no second one, who am I partners with? The answer is no one because I'm a villager.-
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If anyone wants a source just @ me. I've won a game just by creating this situation and winning it.In post 2664, Catgirl Chipotle wrote: I have seen these gamestates a million times.
Usually when it's obvious that there are 2 people that are very much wolves together, going all-in on a cc battle vs 1 player (if you read Raven's post, I think you could figure out they were expecting to fight a CC battle with us), and those players can't make up a story on who that 1 player is teamed with, the 1 solo, individual player is likely just town while the other 2 are just wolves. This is why generally you see a lot of "Well, I think this person is a wolf, but I can't think of who could possibly be the second one!" That would be because there is no second one, who am I partners with? The answer is no one because I'm a villager.-
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It's almost like when you make an inside joke you do it in a way that makes the soft not obvious. Should I have probably done an inside joke that no one but Dan could've picked up on? Eh, you can question that later and sorry in advance but if it makes you feel better you weren't winning this anyway.In post 2666, Silver Ravens wrote:
Neither of these are softs. Belle at the ball is not related to towers in any way; they feel like the princess because You say they are your top townread there an we said they were our top townread. Possibly other people as well.In post 2663, Catgirl Chipotle wrote:In post 1961, Catgirl Chipotle wrote: No one gets to take potshots at my darling Dan though. This means war. (If Von really is wolfreading Dan I'd like to know why cause they're my personal top TR)
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Our slot isn't gonna turn this into a screaming match let's vote for dream 1/2/6 and then we make a table on who reveals what dream and when ours win their only defense is "You can hijack stuff" but from their own statement we already have.
So we're gonna do it a . . .second time? Now tell me if that makes sense with all the 1 shot roles in the game.-
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I don't feel like entertaining someone who is just looking to nitpick points in an argument.
Logging off.
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Regardless of the 3 dreams chosen here is how it should work:
Cat reveals The top dream
If top is discarded do the next highest dream
Raven Reveals the Bottom dream
If the bottom is discarded reveal the next lowest dream.
Pretty simple. If a villager has any questions let us know but we're both pretty beat up and logging off the night (mood is bad) but ye.-
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In post 2658, Catgirl Chipotle wrote: Twilight 2, reveal superman to see if we can get something better than dead neighborizer. We gave the Reporter to Silver Ravens because we thought GiF would use it well. They are now using this knowledge to try to claim early since I think this is how they think they win? Also, you can see my posting during night I handed out reporter, I wrote my posts about the reporter knowing full well the person who (would hopefully read that) would get the memo since they're competent.-
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We made all of the dream related decisions in the game, Silver is making shit up. That's their gameplan because it's the only way they can win since literally every over town is unelimmable.-
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oh that
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I thought I could hand out a thingy but I couldn't-
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God if Von really is scum this is the last time I'm ever reading an Ate post again because I didn't think people would care enough to make up an Ate post or towncred in 2024 but if Black did uhhh kudos ig-
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In post 2682, Enchant wrote:
No i mean there were another reporterIn post 2679, Catgirl Chipotle wrote:In post 2658, Catgirl Chipotle wrote: Twilight 2, reveal superman to see if we can get something better than dead neighborizer. We gave the Reporter to Silver Ravens because we thought GiF would use it well. They are now using this knowledge to try to claim early since I think this is how they think they win? Also, you can see my posting during night I handed out reporter, I wrote my posts about the reporter knowing full well the person who (would hopefully read that) would get the memo since they're competent.In post 2683, Catgirl Chipotle wrote: oh that
i msg'd ffery about that as soon as I found out and it turns out I had nothing to do with itIn post 2684, Catgirl Chipotle wrote: I thought I could hand out a thingy but I couldn't
Also I'm sorry are we just skipping over how Silver MISSED THE TEST.In post 2686, Enchant wrote: Okay so.
Mod said i should give this thing out as i used camera.
I gived it to Ravens (don't ask why i did).
Ravens claims "I don't know where it is".
I messaged mod about it, received "There's no mod errors".
I guess it's blatant Ravens lying, no?
And then backtracked and said "Oh we got it" When we blatantly passed it? As a wolf if we have to answer first, there's no way we can know this like.
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Like, sure I'm worried that they have some way to mess with the dreams because our choices have not been messed with yet but oh well can't really stop that.
The fact I softed, Silver has been blatantly caught lying twice, and this is still up for debate? Oh my goodness-
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Okay, you keep talking about Alisae scum but anyone who has seen Maria scum knows I would have at least double the posts I do now because of how much I enjoy scum over town.
The fact Drew isn't talking about the scum game I just had and comparing it to how blatantly different this game is ???-
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Signal boosting this again for people to read that they just blatantly failed the test from Enchant and then said "oh jk we really did see it" because they were outted otherwiseIn post 2697, Catgirl Chipotle wrote:In post 2682, Enchant wrote:
No i mean there were another reporterIn post 2679, Catgirl Chipotle wrote:In post 2658, Catgirl Chipotle wrote: Twilight 2, reveal superman to see if we can get something better than dead neighborizer. We gave the Reporter to Silver Ravens because we thought GiF would use it well. They are now using this knowledge to try to claim early since I think this is how they think they win? Also, you can see my posting during night I handed out reporter, I wrote my posts about the reporter knowing full well the person who (would hopefully read that) would get the memo since they're competent.In post 2683, Catgirl Chipotle wrote: oh that
i msg'd ffery about that as soon as I found out and it turns out I had nothing to do with itIn post 2684, Catgirl Chipotle wrote: I thought I could hand out a thingy but I couldn't
Also I'm sorry are we just skipping over how Silver MISSED THE TEST.In post 2686, Enchant wrote: Okay so.
Mod said i should give this thing out as i used camera.
I gived it to Ravens (don't ask why i did).
Ravens claims "I don't know where it is".
I messaged mod about it, received "There's no mod errors".
I guess it's blatant Ravens lying, no?
And then backtracked and said "Oh we got it" When we blatantly passed it? As a wolf if we have to answer first, there's no way we can know this like.
HELLO? They were just caught lying why is everyone acting like this is nothing.
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Check any Wolf game of Dunn's btw all he does is cherry pick what he considers is the weakest point of arguments instead of answering entire posts that he just outright can't.
I don't feel like talking to the outted wolf but right now I do not know who the partner is and I plan on wanting to solve that during the hood phase.-
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As I said cherry picking. I'm trying not to answer you because it's just a waste of time but if you go back a single page and read the conversation just because Alisae didn't post the result doesn't give any indication.In post 2703, Silver Ravens wrote: You said you handled all the dream stuff, and then said "oh yeah that" when Enchant started talking about it.
You're not answering the pointagainor the important partagainyou're just cherry picking. You saw something that was a weakness and answered it instead of the important part of the conversation.-
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Enchant asked who we gave the reporter shot on the day Alisae didn't ask. Of course, Alisae didn't put the result because they didn't remember it because they don't remember handing out. . .nothing because we didn't give anything.
Side point, if we are fakeclaiming we have no way to know that and would've had to just make a 100% guess, but we know that's not possible.-
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Like, look at the actions Silver is saying:
"We gave it to our cc"
"We got hijacked twice"
"Oh they're gonna hijack the dream again"
Putting reads aside I don't think it takes a genius to figure out who is winning this. I'm gonna stop answering them but if you need something @ me.-
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Our actions besides the one in the cc are proven and the reaction tests are also proven.
To believe Silver's actions to be true you have to believe mafia just have random roles that say "I get to pick" the dream over and over again. When nearly everything has been oneshot.
So do you believe this one random inconsistency to be true, when the idea of a hijack is odd in and of itself when a dead mafia has the power to become the dreamer? (Truthfully I don't know how that part works so they could have some sort of dream manipulation but it'd certainly be one shot and I always figured it wouldn't come into play until after we died)-
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I want Silver to agree to this as they should have no problem with it if they're real.In post 2674, Catgirl Chipotle wrote: Regardless of the 3 dreams chosen here is how it should work:
Cat reveals The top dream
If top is discarded do the next highest dream
Raven Reveals the Bottom dream
If the bottom is discarded reveal the next lowest dream.
Pretty simple. If a villager has any questions let us know but we're both pretty beat up and logging off the night (mood is bad) but ye.-
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In post 1646, morph the cat wrote:For Aureal, the Nightmare is over.
She wasTarhalindur, Deep Sleeping Master Roaster of the Midsummer Night's Coffeeof theBad Dreams.
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Dunn are you typing everything you post laughing? Don't answer that I know how you act as mafia in a cc you so are.-
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Also you ccing us first doesn't mean much when ti says in the mafia role pm that you can target people to see if they're a deep sleeping and it openly said that the mafia were haunting so you can know it's us coming into the phase so.-
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(I wouldn't be shocked if dream hijack was real but I don't know if reveal and pick are both hijack etc depends how much the mafia is loved but if they rly have no way to stop us they're just outted)-
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Wow, is reading the third part of the role in the rolecard that hard for you?In post 2724, Silver Ravens wrote:
The factional abilities are redacted for us.In post 2720, Catgirl Chipotle wrote:In post 1646, morph the cat wrote:For Aureal, the Nightmare is over.
She wasTarhalindur, Deep Sleeping Master Roaster of the Midsummer Night's Coffeeof theBad Dreams.
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There is no way in hell you are trying to fucking use my pronunciation of a sentence against me when you damn well know what I meant.In post 2729, Silver Ravens wrote:
That does not say that they can become the dreamer while dead.In post 2726, Catgirl Chipotle wrote: Wow, is reading the third part of the role in the rolecard that hard for you?-
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I asked ffery some questionsIn post 2748, Catgirl Chipotle wrote: Also apparently wolves misplayed?
I got answers I am unhappy with
I'm tilted and my personal interest in seeing this game to it's conclusion is 0.
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idunno bro Ravens would want you to believe that dreamer was hijacked twice, once privately, another publicly.
It's complete bullshit lmao. I'm also quite capable of coming up with bullshit to win wolfgames. This is what it is.
Will people see that? I have 0 faith in that.
So I'm just done.
This has been a miserable experience and it makes me think I would be a complete happier person if I just did not play mafia.
This has truly been as miserable experience playing town and if this is how I get punished for reaching the right conclusions 1 phase too late and getting stuck on being unable to identify town!Kyoko, then ya idunno I probably deserve to lose. Everyone else just so happens to want to beat to the bang of their own drum.
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ya ali out I'm going to fucking do unspeakable things to myself-
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why do I come back to play this dogshit game I'm only happy when things go well it's literally like being trapped playing league of legends, only because winning in league feels so good but losing makes you hate yourself
This shit takes up time in my fucking day, I want to be doing other things. But instead I decided to do this.
This will probably just be another fucking babyrage moment that doesn't mean shit because I'll end up playing ANOTHER game because, y'know, I need MEH FIX-
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oh right
its because I like solving more than I like actually pushing my reads through
riiiiiiiiiight
well game solved...probably...
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I think if the logic you're coming too is that us as a wolf would just. . .not have a plan coming into the phase that's sort of insane given we had at least 4 days to plan this over ya know?
I also think if anyone reads Alisae posts and think those can come from scum that's also ??? I had to log off myself because Dunn tried to use something that makes me very uncomfortable out of game against me so like yeah if they want to win this cc so badly for their mafia ego go for it ig.-
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I think it is also just Von/Raven at the moment because Town Drew would be hard defending me at this point like, anyone can tell this isn't my wolf game. I think Silver came in knowing they had something they could do and I quite frankly also did because why would you cc when there are 10 dif ways to clear yourself. I should've probably let Alisae claim sooner although if that happened kiri would've went over and we die in the night so meh I don't feel so bad.-
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Also um yeah expect only me posting for the rest of this phase for obvious reasons.-
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I'm trying to remove myself from the cc and see it from a mostly unbiased viewpoint and I guess the part that's making me confused on why this is such a hard choice for you guys is we've openly proven we're the dreamer with a soft that I told Dan about.
We passed a reaction test we couldn't have known unless we were the dreamer and then Silver outright failed it as stated before.
And if Alisae is a wolf they had to fake. . .that vs Silver who is trying to claim "oh we were hijacked"
So, let us ignore everything for the time being and focus on the hijack part.
They already said they were hijacked once, now they're claiming they were hijacked again.
Look at every role. Every one we've done so far what do they have in common: They were 1-shot.
Even the flipped wolf role was 1 shot minus the mech part where you can hunt the dreamer.
So do you randomly think, this one part of the story were 2 of the same type of role exist are on a wolf and that makes Silver's story true and it's a random 2-shot type role and the mod did it for giggles.
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They're just lying again.-
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When you have to jump through so many hoops like Silver does to come to the truth it's more likely it's fake.
I just want everyone to think that over to themselves please, look at how we played look at what Silver is trying to proclaim to be the truth and I think you should be able to get to the same ad correct answer here. I can answer questions if you have some, but I really cannot think of what else I could possibly say here.
Besides the fact I don't think we would've made the cc as a wolf? Dependns on parter of course but ehhhh.-
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So Drew, do you think we're a wolf here? I want to hear from you and not Black's thoughts. Yours.
If you think I'm a wolf here I really do not believe you and this is my only chance I'm gonna give you before I just agree with Alisae's read on you.-
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Catgirl Chipotle Goon
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Our read hasn't changed on you. I'm just making Drew take a stance so I know how to read the rest of the game because Drew should never be wolfreading us here. If I'm wrong, I want Drew to prove it to me.In post 2772, Von Payne wrote:
This is such a weird threat that I only think comes from scum. "Townread us or we'll change our read on you!"In post 2767, Catgirl Chipotle wrote: So Drew, do you think we're a wolf here? I want to hear from you and not Black's thoughts. Yours.
If you think I'm a wolf here I really do not believe you and this is my only chance I'm gonna give you before I just agree with Alisae's read on you.
Or, I just want to be removed of any doubt.-
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Alisae has been wolfreading you the entire phase don't try to change the narrative, the only reason I haven't been fully committed was I thought your reactions couldn't come from scum given how Gimli treated you but I forget that most people don't have the same lines as me.-
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