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Sooooo I really want to play this game but it started way faster than I expected like always and I'm still really busy right now but I'm hoping to be right in the thick of it within a couple daysBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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I definitely do not have time to read 57 pages right now so
V/LA through Thursday May 2Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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y'all there is no way I can catch up here any time soon
But I want to start playing this game so I'm just gonna jump in and figure it outBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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And SirBakez can solve the shit out of this gameBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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Bruh what is this even based on????In post 1975, Hermit Crab wrote: SirCakez feels town whicg actually makes me want to kill fire but it’s for kinda weak Shit reasonsBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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EVERYBODY TALKING ABOUT TENET BETTER BE SIGNING UP FOR SCREAM WHEN I FINISH IT VERY SOONBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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I will get there but I am not trusting town reads on cabal people this earlyIn post 1984, Hermit Crab wrote:
Also I’m the most widely townread person in our hood, catch up cakeboyIn post 1978, SirCakez wrote:
Bruh what is this even based on????In post 1975, Hermit Crab wrote: SirCakez feels town whicg actually makes me want to kill fire but it’s for kinda weak Shit reasonsBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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Only a cabal person would say thisIn post 1983, Hermit Crab wrote:
No fuck tenet that game doesn’t exist except in my nightmaresIn post 1979, SirCakez wrote: EVERYBODY TALKING ABOUT TENET BETTER BE SIGNING UP FOR SCREAM WHEN I FINISH IT VERY SOON
Smh y'allBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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And call me cakeboy for that matterIn post 1984, Hermit Crab wrote:
Also I’m the most widely townread person in our hood, catch up cakeboyIn post 1978, SirCakez wrote:
Bruh what is this even based on????In post 1975, Hermit Crab wrote: SirCakez feels town whicg actually makes me want to kill fire but it’s for kinda weak Shit reasonsBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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It's an interesting group of associated mafia players lol
They often join a lot of games together and Tenet was a game I modded that a lot of them were in tooBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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this cannot be serious PLEASEIn post 2026, morph the cat wrote: I have a bit of concern that it took Cakez 12 minutes to respond to the pooky's raised eyebrow.
bless u firebringer lmaooIn post 2027, Firebringer wrote: i have concerns about more important things than cakez response time when highBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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VOTE: pooky just for thisIn post 2039, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote: i'm not even sure cakez is scum but watching cabd dunk on him is always worth the price of admission esp when he's highBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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The drink or the player?In post 2041, Hermit Crab wrote: Cakez how do you feel about our lord and savior Baja blast?Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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In post 2044, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
cuz you enjoy itIn post 2042, Firebringer wrote: why can't cabd dunk on meBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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I'm skimming reading up all this blah blah Cakez' timing disappearing was so suspicious what about the time gaps etc etc
Guess what guys?
I was stoned and got distracted. I played Alan Wake 2 for three hours LOL. I also feel like this should not be a surprise to anyone lmaoBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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I've also decided that this stupid engaging the game without really engaging the game shit I've been doing is dumb so I'm just gonna bunker down and read the game, skimming probably a good bit to make it reasonable but I'm not gonna engage the game thread again til that's done because it always gets me distracted, so I don't wanna hear any "omg, Cakez disappeared again!"Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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ALL THE PROGRESS IM MAKING READING DOESNT MATTER BC YALL JUST POST MORE
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I continue..Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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I'm still reading I'm near halfway, I'm gonna try to power through it all by the end of todayBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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IM SITTING DOWN AT MY COMPUTER AND IM NOT LEAVING UNTIL IM DONE WITH CATCH-UPBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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ty Marci ^.^ idk if I deserve this honor LOLIn post 2081, marcistar wrote: yes i was reading it as it was happening
i liked pooky for jumping on that, its +
so much so it made me want to as well.
however i feel like the explanation does make sense, esp considering the "im high" portion of it. so i think it doesnt give a good read on cakez at all. i hate how he isnt engaging in thread though since i view him very highly as a player.
30 pages left y'all
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ACTUALLY TOWN READS - Lukewarm, Pooky, Dunnstral, Pengy
TOWN ISH...FOR NOW - Shello and Goodbye, Dannflor, Spiffeh, marcistar, Oblivion, Bingle
idk yet - StD, experience, Gypyx
A LITTLE SCUMMISH - Firebringer, CSF, Klick
SCUMMY BUT IM ALSO TILTED - Hermit Crab
SCUMMY AF - Morph the Cat, Firebagel, Sunflower, Brian Skies
pls keep in mind these are rough draft immediate fire thought reads based individually
ex; morph and sunflower are probably not scum together but I got scum vibes from them individually
I'm also ignoring the hoods for now
I find the whole "slip" argument against me to be incredibly dumb but I don't think there's anything even to argue there so I'm just gonna ignore it. I don't really think it's AI.Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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All of his posts sound like wet toilet paper being thrown at a wall. He's probably sad his teammates already decided to bus him.Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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I found the arguments against morph the cat presented by Lukewarm and Bingle to be incredibly persuasive. Even though Luke backed down on it later I think he was on to something. Morph keeps making posts this game that make me think they are manufacturing their town PoV and trying to make their posts from it and it's not coming off 100% right. It's like you fed ChatGPT a bunch of town!morph posts then told it to write town!morph posts itself.Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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My top four town reads have all made posts/had consistent vibes today that have felt inarguably town to me. For example Dunn's level of engagement and scumhunting this game has felt beyond what I've seen him pull off as scum in the past. And Penguin's entire day one play looks like town Pengy to a T, and I know because I had to twist it into some bullshit to try to get him eliminated in Eminence in ShadowBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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The people in townish I have seen posts that made me feel good about them at points but I don't trust them (or myself lol) to correctly have read them as strong town this early
Especially Spiffeh I love the mouse but I can't trust himBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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With CSF I get the vibe she is kinda following the crowd and there's not much original scumhunting going on. Her last two votes were Firebringer and me and both of those wagons were detailed and started by other players. and 2732 seems like it is again setting up another wagon hop. if you iso there's not a lot of actual scumhunting going on besides questioning other people's townreads and repeating talking points other people generatedIn post 2909, Shello and Goodbye wrote:can you elaborate more on the csf + hermit + morph + sunflower ones?
also did you wolfread morph at all before the luke case or did you read it and then apply it back if that makes sense?
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Sunflower has some individual posts that pinged me, a lot of which were already called out in thread. 116 feels weirdly overwritten and not like real thoughts. 222 sounds kinda fake to me. 1226 gives me the same vibes as 116, idk if I'm just misreading the tone? like these reads feel very noncomittal and like they aren't backed up by anything. hmmm I will say after finishing the ISO re-read it wasn't as bad as I remembered, their posts have improved recently. i would probably put them in scummish instead of bottom scum on reevaluation.
Hermit has been irking me because they have been poking at me pretty much constantly from the "slip" moment and i feel like they are not trying to look at things from a neutral PoV and determining what alignment I am, they are trying to take what i post and fit it into scum!cakez boxes. there was more posting in the hood while i was reading that got me irked further by this but i also recognize im just annoyed with them right now so i don't think it's a route i'm gonna pursue today
Morph is kinda the same thing but I have other reasons to think they are scum aside from this pattern. I'm trying to just disregard the whole slip argument they made and write it off as NAI because i think it's really dumb and i don't have an objective take on it. In regards to your second question I would say I had some of these vibes from Morph before the Luke and Bingle arguments but they kind of crystallized what I was feeling into words. Like I remember while I was reading thinking that Bingle literally just wrote my mind down in this post:
I'm also surprised they have not come at me more cutthroat-ly because I know especially Cabd is an absolute monster when it comes to dunking his scum reads and it seems like they bought into the slip argument against me pretty strong. I suspect it could be because they don't want to burn a lot of cred on my town flip, although that might be too surface-level of thinking but that's the Occam's Razor explanationIn post 1694, Bingle wrote: Cabd’s posting feels like he’s trying to be sudsing things but not actually being sudsing things.Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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ask me anything don't listen to gypyx lolIn post 2910, marcistar wrote: What does ama meanBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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ok that sounded kind of dumb but the point is he feels like town!Dunn fairly transparently to meIn post 2915, Bingle wrote:
u wot m8In post 2904, SirCakez wrote: Dunn's level of engagement and scumhunting this game has felt beyond what I've seen him pull off as scum in the past.Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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i mean you're right that stuff is there, when she is engaged she has some good postsIn post 2917, Shello and Goodbye wrote:
i'm probably going to pick at this reply more than do it all at once so sorry cakez lol im busy playing Video gamesIn post 2912, SirCakez wrote: With CSF I get the vibe she is kinda following the crowd and there's not much original scumhunting going on. Her last two votes were Firebringer and me and both of those wagons were detailed and started by other players. and 2732 seems like it is again setting up another wagon hop. if you iso there's not a lot of actual scumhunting going on besides questioning other people's townreads and repeating talking points other people generated
i think i disagree with this take because while csf isn't doing like... the Most in the world to case or really fight back against people she feels inquisitive about things in a way that's towny to me. what do you think about the things she's actually said or done that i think were of her own volition like the oblivion thing early on, some of her mech stuff, firebagel, etc. this is vague so don't treat this as a whole list of things
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i need to consider her more, i'll see what happens the rest of today i'm obv not voting her todayBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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i'm pretty sure i've been against cabd and/or ffery as scum when they are town? obviously the most known example is xenoblade 2 where i had no idea what to do against cabd and just died immediately instead. i honestly usually just wing it tbh. i have recently been terrible at explaining my reads to people in a way that makes sense so when someone is able to articulate something that sounds close enough to what I was thinking i'm always happy to hop on lolIn post 2920, Shello and Goodbye wrote:
also i was curious about this because like, earlier on morph was saying stuff about how wolves tend to treat them and position themselves around them - they don't want to townread them because it bolsters their solves, wolfreading is a lot, so they go into the nullish zone instead where they can exist. when you posted your initial read that was mostly about someone else's case i wondered if it was like, an audacious wolf thing where cakez would NEVER rebel against morph as wolf and take on that pressure in this positionIn post 2912, SirCakez wrote: Morph is kinda the same thing but I have other reasons to think they are scum aside from this pattern. I'm trying to just disregard the whole slip argument they made and write it off as NAI because i think it's really dumb and i don't have an objective take on it. In regards to your second question I would say I had some of these vibes from Morph before the Luke and Bingle arguments but they kind of crystallized what I was feeling into words. Like I remember while I was reading thinking that Bingle literally just wrote my mind down in this post:
In post 1694, Bingle wrote:
Cabd’s posting feels like he’s trying to be sudsing things but not actually being sudsing things.
I'm also surprised they have not come at me more cutthroat-ly because I know especially Cabd is an absolute monster when it comes to dunking his scum reads and it seems like they bought into the slip argument against me pretty strong. I suspect it could be because they don't want to burn a lot of cred on my town flip, although that might be too surface-level of thinking but that's the Occam's Razor explanation
what do you think abt their posting around the time of the neighborhood reveals/the dethy stuff? also why wouldn't it be burning cred on you to subscribe to that argument? i feel like if anything ppl would see, in this world where they're wolf and you're town, that it was like... a very small thing that they 'shouldn't' have bought into
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can you be more specific about "the posting around the time of the neighborhood reveals"?
the last bit, that's my point. if the elimination on me goes through today then it doesn't do anything for morph tomorrow when everyone will realize how dumb the slip argument wasBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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This always happens day one, it's just inevitableIn post 2924, Bingle wrote:
I mean, sure it’s a long ass game, but it’s a long ass game where things are actually happening. It’s kinda why the cakez wagon was ass. Anyone who has played a game with cakez and expected more from him before now was lying to someoneIn post 2921, Shello and Goodbye wrote:
i've been increasingly cranky about the size of this game. don't look at my post countIn post 2919, Bingle wrote: I disagree, ydra. I think this game is actually going pretty well. Like... there's 117 pages, but all of it feels like there's information there and we just need to sus it out. There's garbage wagons, but they feel like meaningful garbage wagons. We don't need to win today, we need today to make us win.
I BELIEVE IN MIRACLES!
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What a great way to literally give me no reason to think I'm wrongIn post 2943, morph the cat wrote: I don't hate Cakez' catchup. I kinda expected to.
Neuterhalf left me laughter in our chat at your scumread before going to some navy weekend thing.
If you don't hate my catch-up why aren't you trying to tell me why I'm wrong or open a dialogue at all?Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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You don't think morph is scum anymore?In post 2945, Bingle wrote:
Yeah, I don't really agree with him on... anything, really. But that's pretty well what I'd expect a towncakez to post.In post 2943, morph the cat wrote: I don't hate Cakez' catchup. I kinda expected to.
Neuterhalf left me laughter in our chat at your scumread before going to some navy weekend thing.
I feel like Cakez and HC are similar in that they're probably both town and we don't really see eye to eye right now and that's OK.Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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Does them being bad faith make him scum? I feel like Dunn does this as either alignmentIn post 2932, Bingle wrote:
Eh. Maybe I’m biased but I’ve felt like his contributions have p much all been bad faith and I don’t think Dunn is particularly more likely to tryhard as town than scum. Like… look at every interaction he has with me, for example.In post 2922, SirCakez wrote:
ok that sounded kind of dumb but the point is he feels like town!Dunn fairly transparently to meIn post 2915, Bingle wrote:
u wot m8In post 2904, SirCakez wrote: Dunn's level of engagement and scumhunting this game has felt beyond what I've seen him pull off as scum in the past.Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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I understand this on a spiritual levelIn post 2949, Sunflower wrote:
hiiii it's jupiter! i missed you too dannIn post 2942, Dannflor wrote: sunflower, please tell jupiter I miss him
i'm getting demolished by APs at the moment so im busy getting on the grind (i am stronger than my pain...) and also i'm not playing right now because larges are too hard for me, ill be back when we have like 13-16 people... sighhh
genuinely i pulled up saw 20 pages and i was like, ill read that later, came back later & saw 70 pages and i was like. theres no way im reading all of that. day one is important but im not gonna spend like an hour or two of my time reading through so much mafia..... at least i would USUALLY but not when im about to get my butt kicked by standardized testing... ill see you in like a week though when im done w all my tests !!!!! the benefit of being in a hydra is not getting replaced for inactivityBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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That's why I'm trying to engage you right now, let's forget about Cabd he always gets me tilted anyways
I'll also say I'm definitely sure I've gotten your guys posts mixed up a few times since you don't signBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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Morph/ffery who should we eliminate today if not Brian or me?Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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I'm also gonna say Kemusan was not a fair example of my best efforts given the dance structure of the game and Cabd self yeeting before we could even vote lolIn post 2959, morph the cat wrote:In post 2954, SirCakez wrote:
What a great way to literally give me no reason to think I'm wrongIn post 2943, morph the cat wrote: I don't hate Cakez' catchup. I kinda expected to.
Neuterhalf left me laughter in our chat at your scumread before going to some navy weekend thing.
If you don't hate my catch-up why aren't you trying to tell me why I'm wrong or open a dialogue at all?
Because I'm kinda disgusted that you'd misread me again right after misreading me so badly in Kemusan. In that game I scumread you for not just misreading me, but not even TRYING to engage with me despite my making a few efforts to engage you.
You seem to default to scum-me and you're basing your reads on Cabd, not me. So what should I engage?Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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That's not the point, Brian is a good elimination today, I'm trying to see where you are thinking elsewhere. I re-isoed you and it's difficult to get a sense of your reads in your recent postsIn post 2964, morph the cat wrote:
Explain why not Brian, first.In post 2962, SirCakez wrote: Morph/ffery who should we eliminate today if not Brian or me?
My point was we literally didn't even have one elimination that game before you died, I had no time or space to develop my read on you before I died. I don't know why you're coming at me like this for my first-draft scum reads, I'm not married to anything at this point.In post 2965, morph the cat wrote:
What does that have to do with your lazy-ass scumread of me in that game while I was in it? And why would you expect me to assume your catch up read of my slot isn't another lazy-ass effort?In post 2963, SirCakez wrote:
I'm also gonna say Kemusan was not a fair example of my best efforts given the dance structure of the game and Cabd self yeeting before we could even vote lolIn post 2959, morph the cat wrote:In post 2954, SirCakez wrote:
What a great way to literally give me no reason to think I'm wrongIn post 2943, morph the cat wrote: I don't hate Cakez' catchup. I kinda expected to.
Neuterhalf left me laughter in our chat at your scumread before going to some navy weekend thing.
If you don't hate my catch-up why aren't you trying to tell me why I'm wrong or open a dialogue at all?
Because I'm kinda disgusted that you'd misread me again right after misreading me so badly in Kemusan. In that game I scumread you for not just misreading me, but not even TRYING to engage with me despite my making a few efforts to engage you.
You seem to default to scum-me and you're basing your reads on Cabd, not me. So what should I engage?Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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Okay so aside from me we have three scum reads in common. I don't have much of a take on StD or even Dann really. I'm open to investigating these other leads for now, I do have to say I think your posting to me here directly has felt better than most of what I was reading earlierIn post 2967, morph the cat wrote:
The bottom of my leftovers as of last night wasIn post 2966, SirCakez wrote:
That's not the point, Brian is a good elimination today, I'm trying to see where you are thinking elsewhere. I re-isoed you and it's difficult to get a sense of your reads in your recent postsIn post 2964, morph the cat wrote:
Explain why not Brian, first.In post 2962, SirCakez wrote: Morph/ffery who should we eliminate today if not Brian or me?
{Dannflor, STD}
{Brian Skies, Klick, Sunflower, Cakez}
With you at least coming to life, the two leftovers I feel most strongly about are Brian and Sunflower. But, I'm not feeling as confident about my reads as I did a couple days ago. I had Action Dan almost up in my solid townread region before he replaced out. experience being a nonentity so far is de-solidifying that read.
I'm not coming at you. I'm responding to YOU coming at me. If you weren't, I'd be, not happy about it, but willing to float through the new posts in observation mode for now.
My point was we literally didn't even have one elimination that game before you died, I had no time or space to develop my read on you before I died. I don't know why you're coming at me like this for my first-draft scum reads, I'm not married to anything at this point.In post 2965, morph the cat wrote:
What does that have to do with your lazy-ass scumread of me in that game while I was in it? And why would you expect me to assume your catch up read of my slot isn't another lazy-ass effort?In post 2963, SirCakez wrote:
I'm also gonna say Kemusan was not a fair example of my best efforts given the dance structure of the game and Cabd self yeeting before we could even vote lolIn post 2959, morph the cat wrote:In post 2954, SirCakez wrote:In post 2943, morph the cat wrote: I don't hate Cakez' catchup. I kinda expected to.
Neuterhalf left me laughter in our chat at your scumread before going to some navy weekend thing.What a great way to literally give me no reason to think I'm wrong
If you don't hate my catch-up why aren't you trying to tell me why I'm wrong or open a dialogue at all?
Because I'm kinda disgusted that you'd misread me again right after misreading me so badly in Kemusan. In that game I scumread you for not just misreading me, but not even TRYING to engage with me despite my making a few efforts to engage you.
You seem to default to scum-me and you're basing your reads on Cabd, not me. So what should I engage?Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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She kinda gives me the same vibes as CSF but it's more egregious, like Shello said CSF has some posts that I can see some town motivation/thought process, but I'm not getting anything like that from Firebagel. Theres not really any original thought process at all, it's just following the consensus wagons again like CSF. I don't know who she is and I wish I did.In post 2976, Lukewarm wrote: Cakez, care to put more words to your firebagel read?Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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Why are you looking at everything from the angle of would scum!Cakez do this? What about would town!Cakez do this? I feel like everyone in this game is good enough to see how scummy Brian's recent posting has been, I almost feel like it would be egregious to not vote him given the wagon existing too.In post 2980, Lukewarm wrote:
I am of two minds when I look at his top 4 scum reads.In post 2972, morph the cat wrote: Sigh
Crabz, do y'all have thoughts on this?
Same question to you, Luke.
other's thoughts also welcome.
In my left brain, I don't think that scum-Cakez would feel super confident in dropping you guys in the bottom tier.
In my right brain, I think that landing on Brian being his strongest scum read is exactly who scum-Cakez needs to have as his strongest scum read.Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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Sassy okayIn post 2992, Lukewarm wrote:
Turns out "Do I think that scum would do this / benefit from doing this" is a question I ask myself when trying to discern someones alignment.In post 2987, SirCakez wrote:
Why are you looking at everything from the angle of would scum!Cakez do this? What about would town!Cakez do this? I feel like everyone in this game is good enough to see how scummy Brian's recent posting has been, I almost feel like it would be egregious to not vote him given the wagon existing too.In post 2980, Lukewarm wrote:
I am of two minds when I look at his top 4 scum reads.In post 2972, morph the cat wrote: Sigh
Crabz, do y'all have thoughts on this?
Same question to you, Luke.
other's thoughts also welcome.
In my left brain, I don't think that scum-Cakez would feel super confident in dropping you guys in the bottom tier.
In my right brain, I think that landing on Brian being his strongest scum read is exactly who scum-Cakez needs to have as his strongest scum read.
Hope that helps.Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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I feel like you're referencing something specific in this situation that I'm totally missing, I reread it twice and I'm not getting much from it, seems pretty reasonable from all the people you mentioned?In post 2995, Lukewarm wrote: @Cakez, what is your opinion of Dann, Hermit, and morph's reactions to the deathy reveal. (Started around 564)Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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I get what you mean more now tyIn post 2996, Lukewarm wrote:
The not sassy answer is that town is posting the things that they believe (generally), so "Would town!Cakez do this" is actually "does cakez believe these things?"In post 2994, SirCakez wrote:
Sassy okayIn post 2992, Lukewarm wrote:
Turns out "Do I think that scum would do this / benefit from doing this" is a question I ask myself when trying to discern someones alignment.In post 2987, SirCakez wrote:
Why are you looking at everything from the angle of would scum!Cakez do this? What about would town!Cakez do this? I feel like everyone in this game is good enough to see how scummy Brian's recent posting has been, I almost feel like it would be egregious to not vote him given the wagon existing too.In post 2980, Lukewarm wrote:
I am of two minds when I look at his top 4 scum reads.In post 2972, morph the cat wrote: Sigh
Crabz, do y'all have thoughts on this?
Same question to you, Luke.
other's thoughts also welcome.
In my left brain, I don't think that scum-Cakez would feel super confident in dropping you guys in the bottom tier.
In my right brain, I think that landing on Brian being his strongest scum read is exactly who scum-Cakez needs to have as his strongest scum read.
Hope that helps.
Scum don't start at belief. They start at "what helps them?", tempered by "what do they think they can justify?"
So "Do I think that scum would do this / benefit from doing this" is an easier question to think about first, because that kind of positional benefit can be easier to see from a surface level / first time reading. While "does cakez actually believe these things" a deeper read (and often follow up questions)Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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I used to think like this but I've seen scum with big wagons give up at the day finish line (including myself lol) enough times to think it's not super AIIn post 3034, marcistar wrote: i am so scared someone said theres like 10 votes on brian and it seems like he isnt puting up much of a fight?? is that not a townie thing too?? i think scum usually puts up a hella fightBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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I mean you're right idk why I exactly trust Pooky so much this game but a lot of his posts are giving me town, moreso than usual I feel and I think that's enough to town bin him on day one. Call it some gut vibes, I can't point to this exactly but he doesn't feel like when we were partners in Eminence.In post 3047, Hermit Crab wrote:
I missed this on my first read but this is a weird thing, especially about PookyIn post 2978, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote: ngl its weird af to me that cakez would actually townread me cuz the last time we were mafia together dude was all like "i can never trust you" but i dont really want to give him a hard time over it cuz im trying to be nicer to people +_+
He seems incredibly definitive about reads he should have minimal confidence in based on his intro (where he claims he refuses to trust any of the cabal that easily), to be both definitive on some scum reads and confident on other cabal members in his townreads?Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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People keep saying this but why would I not vote him as town here either? He's one of my top scum reads and has the biggest wagon. I feel like it would be really dumb to try to start some other vanity wagon when people don't even generally listen to me in the first place, let alone when I'm the main CW.In post 3057, Shello and Goodbye wrote:
i kinda feel like if you're scum you have to vote him now, no?In post 2987, SirCakez wrote:
Why are you looking at everything from the angle of would scum!Cakez do this? What about would town!Cakez do this? I feel like everyone in this game is good enough to see how scummy Brian's recent posting has been,In post 2980, Lukewarm wrote:
I am of two minds when I look at his top 4 scum reads.In post 2972, morph the cat wrote: Sigh
Crabz, do y'all have thoughts on this?
Same question to you, Luke.
other's thoughts also welcome.
In my left brain, I don't think that scum-Cakez would feel super confident in dropping you guys in the bottom tier.
In my right brain, I think that landing on Brian being his strongest scum read is exactly who scum-Cakez needs to have as his strongest scum read.I almost feel like it would be egregious to not vote him given the wagon existing too.
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how am I supposed to give an unbiased read on your slot when you make posts shading me every five secondsIn post 3063, Hermit Crab wrote: It s a lot easier to come in scumreading morph when two other people laid the foundational work and all you’re essentially doing is fanning the paranoia (sound familiar, Luke?)
And his read on us is hedged to hell and back lolBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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And this take is definitely bad, in Xeno I was wayyy more emotional and frustrated with how that game was going because I actually cared and wanted to stay alive there. I remember literally using so much AtE to try to get people off of me and to diffuse Cabd's arguments which obviously didn't work because he was right lol. I think y'all's arguments for me being scum this game are dumb AF and are actually wrong unlike Xeno but at least I won't have to deal with any more snarky/bad takes on my play like this if I get eliminated lolIn post 3069, Hermit Crab wrote: Like tonally this sounds so incredibly similar to xeno cakez I’m astoundedBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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What is Marci's relevance to my wagon at all? There are others doing a lot more to keep it goingIn post 3076, Dannflor wrote: I think Cakez is town and marci is scum who doesn’t want his wagon to melt
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I'm back
In black!
Aka I'm going to respond more questions while at work zzzzzBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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Yes I do think that's my best vote right now I feel like I've said this repeatedly in thread at this point - Brian is one of my high scum reads, he is not making any posts that look like town trying, it's the biggest wagon aside from myself, and yes it's a little survivalistic because I'd always rather another slot get flipped than me, thats just basic mafia logic regardless of your alignment. It's like people this game think that I should have intentionally gone against the grain to signal my towniness or some shit.In post 3078, Shello and Goodbye wrote: this might sound weird but i actually kinda find it scummy that he's scumreading brian
if he had said - i'm scumreading X the most but voting brian for survival
i think i would have had an easier time with it because it would have felt more truthful
but how the brian vote in 2902 is presented kinda makes it feel he thinks that's the best vote right now which is ... very coincidental
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