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I accept your scumclaim but it still counts as I caught you
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im gonna guess the scum team as elements + dannflor on page 2
i dont care that dannflor hasnt posted yet that's never stopped meYou are always gonna be my love-
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its early maybe we can reroll the gameYou are always gonna be my love-
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elements tell Dannwolf to stop hiding in the scum PT and come and fight meYou are always gonna be my love-
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tell me more tell me moreIn post 73, fireisredsir wrote: and on the other side i could pretty easily imagine ari scum setting things up this wayYou are always gonna be my love-
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wouldn't it be much more important to not be the first lim in the big hood if I were mafia?
I don't even think the small hood matters.You are always gonna be my love-
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mmhmmIn post 84, fireisredsir wrote: does this setup tend to play out with the small hood not mattering? that seems weird to me but idkYou are always gonna be my love-
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who do you want to kill in the big hood rn?In post 89, Meuh wrote: I feel like if we kill in the big hood, we should be taking the opinions of people in the big hood more seriously than the ones in the small hood on who to kill
The knowledge that there are no partners to help each other in the big hood helps us hereYou are always gonna be my love-
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what do you think town!me would be doing differently?In post 93, OopsieDaisy wrote: Posts like 83 & 91 have rubbed me the wrong way. They're making me feel like Ari is trying to push focus away from herself/her hood.You are always gonna be my love-
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gth i think you're town for not having posted in the hood yetIn post 97, Ydrasse wrote: am i town for being in the little neighborhood can any meta truthers back me upYou are always gonna be my love-
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awooooooIn post 104, Ydrasse wrote:
Is elements a wolfIn post 101, Aristeia wrote:
gth i think you're town for not having posted in the hood yetIn post 97, Ydrasse wrote: am i town for being in the little neighborhood can any meta truthers back me upYou are always gonna be my love-
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yes elements is a mafiaIn post 106, Ydrasse wrote: That isn’t an answerYou are always gonna be my love-
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vote me thenIn post 107, Elements wrote:
Nah, ari is Red teamIn post 104, Ydrasse wrote:
Is elements a wolfIn post 101, Aristeia wrote:
gth i think you're town for not having posted in the hood yetIn post 97, Ydrasse wrote: am i town for being in the little neighborhood can any meta truthers back me upYou are always gonna be my love-
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this is acceptableIn post 112, Elements wrote:
I wanna try for the day 1 win firstIn post 111, Aristeia wrote:
vote me thenIn post 107, Elements wrote:
Nah, ari is Red teamIn post 104, Ydrasse wrote:
Is elements a wolfIn post 101, Aristeia wrote:
gth i think you're town for not having posted in the hood yetIn post 97, Ydrasse wrote: am i town for being in the little neighborhood can any meta truthers back me upYou are always gonna be my love-
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his iso is pretty much empty of any scumhunting and there was no pressure thereIn post 178, OopsieDaisy wrote: oo what's the motivation behind these votes?You are always gonna be my love-
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there's a 0% chance I flip scumIn post 182, OopsieDaisy wrote: the fire bit im a bit iffy on but i think there's like a 50/50 chance ari flips scumYou are always gonna be my love-
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I protect myself as both alignmentsIn post 185, OopsieDaisy wrote: everyone starts at 1/3 odds in the small hood.
i've explained how i've got a lot of conflicting thoughts on the el slot, but there's nothing too concerning there so el stays at 1/3
sheeping ydrasse meta analysis for now cause i don't have knowledge on the slot, seems like an unlikely player to opt into the small hood. 1/6.
that leaves ari who hasn't rly townpinged me with anything they've done whatsoever and as i've talked about earlier there's an air of self-protection around the slot that feels scummy. 1/2 is what's left.You are always gonna be my love-
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yea I think it makes more sense as a "I'm going to scare people off Knott" by voting for him than a "I think Knott is mafia" because it doesn't really fit into his prior worldviewYou are always gonna be my love-
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I guess maybe he's just town and knott is mafia and ydra is scum in small hood but that's p irrelevant if we lim knott today
hence why small hood really doesnt matterYou are always gonna be my love-
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edited for pronouns sorry elementsIn post 199, Aristeia wrote: I guess maybe they are just town and knott is mafia and ydra is scum in small hood but that's p irrelevant if we lim knott today
hence why small hood really doesnt matterYou are always gonna be my love-
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In post 183, Aristeia wrote: his iso is pretty much empty of any scumhunting and there was no pressure thereYou are always gonna be my love-
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In post 231, Afrayed Knott wrote:In post 227, Dannflor wrote:
do you have any readsIn post 221, Afrayed Knott wrote: not sure why the wagon rolled. Ari said there is no scum hunting in my ISO, yes there’s nothing there for sure, as the days just begun, and I really have nothing to go on. All I’m seeing for about 8 pages is a lot of joking around by people who seem to have played together a few times in the past, So ok.
None right now, tbh. Elements asks me which reaction of theirs I found weird, it is this
Didn’t vibe right when I read it. Defensive but not defensive, possible considered. But then it’s a weak thought to be frank
this feels like overexplained for something that has no substanceYou are always gonna be my love-
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maybe ill read some Afrayed meta but i lack motivationYou are always gonna be my love-
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I don't think I'd characterize my scum play as pretending to be wallpaper but thank you for the vote of confidence fireisredsirYou are always gonna be my love-
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what do you define as "scumhunting" ?You are always gonna be my love-
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like would you say me voting you and claiming you're mafia for not having content in your iso is "not scum hunting?"You are always gonna be my love-
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voting/pressuring/talking to players for alignment indicative behaviorIn post 247, Afrayed Knott wrote:
Asking questions looking for gaps in logic or statements that don’t tally with previous statements, how do you define it?In post 244, Aristeia wrote: what do you define as "scumhunting" ?You are always gonna be my love-
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ok you claim that there's no scumhunting in my isoIn post 99, Aristeia wrote:
what do you think town!me would be doing differently?In post 93, OopsieDaisy wrote: Posts like 83 & 91 have rubbed me the wrong way. They're making me feel like Ari is trying to push focus away from herself/her hood.
here is a post i picked out from it.
do you understand how its asking oopsie for a thought process in the counter factual?You are always gonna be my love-
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specifically she states a behavior by me [focussing on the other hood] and claims a motivation [because ari is mafia]
my response to her is to ask her what would Town!Ari in a the world where Ari is town be doing instead?
this is to see if she's actually thought things out about muliple possibilities and decided ari!town would be doing this and ari!scum would be doing this and because ari is doing this then she is mafia.
It's very easy to say behavior A is scum motivated because of ___ if you don't really consider what a person does when they're town.You are always gonna be my love-
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I guess what I'm asking for is when you read this thread and say you stare at it and its dead. what thoughts come to your mind about each of the players?In post 242, Afrayed Knott wrote:
First day for me it’s a mess unless something pings and doesn’t work out in my mind. Or doesn’t feel right. Then if I make it to D2, which has been a rarity for me, I look at any associations I might see or look at any solves that might start to appear. I’m fairly new to the game so it’s all still a learning process atm.In post 237, OopsieDaisy wrote: @Afrayed Knott How do you usually go about finding reads in mafia games?
whats memorable? whats not? which post feels like scummy and which post feels townie to you?
you are in a hood of six, one of which is mafia, if you're town then which of the five others do you suspect the most? which of the five others do you think is unlikely to be mafia? why?
like this isnt a court of law, the things we say could be right or wrong but it doesnt matter so much as we're actually doing something because if no1 does anything then whats the point?
im sorry if this feels overwhelming but I'd appreciate it if you could spend some time on each player and just jot down whatever thoughts come to mind.
if you don't have the time for every player, you can do one per day and be done with all 8 before the deadline.You are always gonna be my love-
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I wasnt offended! you dont need to be sorry :<You are always gonna be my love-
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this is going to be so embarrassing if the one time I don't scumread you you're actually mafiaYou are always gonna be my love-
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In post 260, Meuh wrote:
Sorry to hearIn post 258, Afrayed Knott wrote: I’ll post tomorrow, I just lost my Job.You are always gonna be my love-
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I kind of feel like scum!dann never says this about me because its kind of icky and i think he knows i'm trying to be a nicer person after the last trainwreck we played throughIn post 345, Dannflor wrote: i unironically think aristeia is the scum in the small hood because 253 is too niceYou are always gonna be my love-
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what do you expect to happen?In post 363, Meuh wrote: Pressuring me is probably good for the gamestate actuallyYou are always gonna be my love-
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meuh who do you think is mafia in the big hoodYou are always gonna be my love-
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ok so why are you not pushing for either of them or sorting them or using your vote? it feels like you've decided to be a passive passenger here and engage with Ydrasse of all people?You are always gonna be my love-
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In post 462, Meuh wrote:
Added exclamation marks to be less passiveIn post 461, Meuh wrote: @Fire you are scum!!!You are always gonna be my love-
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do you want me to hammer MeuhIn post 523, Elements wrote: I agree with everything Black has said and done this pageYou are always gonna be my love-
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I kind of feel like elements is never partnered with meuh here because daring me to hammer her is wild if he's partnered with her and that just leaves Ydrasse and those interactions didn't feel partnered either.You are always gonna be my love-
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come back dannwoooooofIn post 431, Dannflor wrote: meuh it’s very funny that you said pressuring you was good for the gamestate and then promptly disappearedYou are always gonna be my love-
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I'm like maybe 75% that limming dannflor will end this gameYou are always gonna be my love-
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like I don't see how town dannflor feels that he's one vote away from winning a game vs me/meuh and just ghosts?In post 352, Dannflor wrote: and meuh's only real significant contribution to this game is 262 which feels like a scum post
so im happy with a page 15 solve of ari/meuh
like I guess maybe he was just busy but I also feel like maybe it was just awkward for him to re-enter thread and actually interact with meuh when she's ateing because he doesn't know how to close her without making himself look bad and he hopes Black will push her over the edge for him.
it feels like he doesnt want to be here and I can see why he'd not want to be here if black!town is pushing meuh!town for him and he can just kind of cheer from the sidelines.You are always gonna be my love-
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maybe he just has a life and has better things to do on a friday night than geek out on mafia message boards in which case im sorry i am needy and stupidYou are always gonna be my love-
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i felt like the way he responded to me saying he was town for scumreading me for being nice felt somewhat guilty in a weird wayIn post 550, Black wrote: Is there any other reason you scumread Dannflor? I don't think he's been on the site todayYou are always gonna be my love-
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ok but i just played a game with scum!dann where he basically chilled while I fought with another loud town player so its kind of like deja vu to meIn post 552, fireisredsir wrote:
like this feels like kind of a stretch to me in several waysIn post 548, Aristeia wrote:maybe it was just awkward for him to re-enter thread and actually interact with meuh when she's ateing because he doesn't know how to close her without making himself look bad and he hopes Black will push her over the edge for him.
it feels like he doesnt want to be here and I can see why he'd not want to be here if black!town is pushing meuh!town for him and he can just kind of cheer from the sidelines.
- i don't think dann would really believe that meuh would be likely to go over without his active support
- i don't think it would be a particularly difficult thread state for him to navigate
- i don't think it would help him long term as scum to be conspicuously absent while town pushes town. that's likely to look significantly worse than being presentYou are always gonna be my love-
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lets say you're right though fire
who is the mafia in the big group then?You are always gonna be my love-
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ok but why does daisy unvote at e-1 and back off the meuh mislim if she's mafia? optics?In post 558, fireisredsir wrote:
my current vote is daisyIn post 555, Aristeia wrote: lets say you're right though fire
who is the mafia in the big group then?You are always gonna be my love-
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it feels so counter intuitive to do at that spot unless she's mafia with elements and its planned?You are always gonna be my love-
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mb you're just much better at playing this game than I am because I can only think in straight linesYou are always gonna be my love-
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im just thinking about that
like
lets say daisy is mafia
why would she not just wait a few more minutes to see if I actually hammer rather than unvote mere minutes from elements challenging me?
like if shes mafia she doesnt lose anything ? like waiting 4 minutes to unvote versus waiting 10 minutes to unvote is not really much different?You are always gonna be my love-
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like regardless of how well you think she knows me it feels like the reward of getting thru this day is worth waiting a few extra minutesYou are always gonna be my love-
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why didnt you care about why i voted you ?You are always gonna be my love-
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nah its fine
have a good night fireYou are always gonna be my love-
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one last question
did you think elements wanted me to hammer meuh?You are always gonna be my love-
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ok good night for reals nowYou are always gonna be my love-
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