Open 737: Stack the Deck (Game Over)

[FrankJaeger]

Hey guys.
Reading now.

[FrankJaeger]

Ok done.
It's late but here's some super raw thoughts-

I don't see what Sky said as a scum move. Well, I actually don't know what to think of it. Not exactly towny either.

I'll call it null for now.

[FrankJaeger]

Aside from the Sky wagon it's just been spec talk and a few awkward back and fourths.

All I got for now

[FrankJaeger]

It's also awkward that I've ended those last 2 post's with "for now"... I'm tired, goodnight.

[FrankJaeger]

It's also awkward that I've ended those last 2 post's with "for now"... I'm tired, goodnight.

no one cares. Why do you care?

*tries not to cry*

[FrankJaeger]

Sky's entrance to the game is alarming. Everything she said so far "could" be interpreted as a mere joke. However -in my experience- joking about lynching the IC always comes from scum. And her last post/joke is even more alarming. I feel like it's been made for the sole purpose of declaring herself as the true traitor. It's as if she took ruru's earlier post about the traitor as an inquiry and is responding to it in fashion.

So,

my case on Sky is she is the Traitor

Sir, don't do this to me.

I will not hesitate to tell

the class why I think this is wrong, especially from you.

idt i see it
care to explain?

It's a meta read, but I

prefer not to give

it unless necessary because it involves outing an alt

Which is it?


P.s And meta reads are usually garbage

[FrankJaeger]

==

frankjaeger's entrance is kinda meh

I see you've never played with me before

[FrankJaeger]

VOTE: FrankJaeger

I thought we moved beyond rvs

[FrankJaeger]

Also @frank how are you reading hws?

I guess I should have asked this before my last post

At work right now, will get back to you tonight.

[FrankJaeger]

Damn u guys have been active since lunch. Work week is over, going to collect thoughts and post tonight! ( Not lying this time)

[FrankJaeger]

i guess i can vote frankjaeger; i don't really actively scumread him so much as don't townread him because of his lack of presence

Don't do it. Have faith in me.

[FrankJaeger]

also frank's pop-in is scummy.

Too easy to say.

let me post some content before you frame it as scummy.

Catching up now

[FrankJaeger]

Early *serious* read alert: Vex is likely town. I did the exact same thing (speculating about what scum might have picked) when I played this setup for the first time. It's not a *strong* TR bc there is a scum motive to do it (and I'd really rather not speaking of that right now) but I'd like to think of him as a townie for a starting point.

@a50 why wagon sky?

Because it's fun.
And also bc it's good for the game.
Well, it's as good as any other wagon really, but my vote is already there and so is ruru's, so if you want to be our third I'd be obliged. (It's still be L-4 you know, and N_M isn't even in this game if it makes you feel any better)

Sky's entrance to the game is alarming. Everything she said so far "could" be interpreted as a mere joke. However -in my experience- joking about lynching the IC always comes from scum. And her last post/joke is even more alarming. I feel like it's been made for the sole purpose of declaring herself as the true traitor. It's as if she took ruru's earlier post about the traitor as an inquiry and is responding to it in fashion.

So,

my case on Sky is she is the Traitor

how confident are you in sky being the traitor?

About the same level of confidence you are Town in this game.

[FrankJaeger]

welp thats a typo. get ready for a copy and paste from notepad lol

[FrankJaeger]

Almost50-

Spoiler:

37 Looks fake. First "serious read". Post 92 admits he is voting for fun. Seems like no scum hunting and active buddying. Speculation though. post 102. How do you know?
Then in 107 he equates his serious read to his fun vote. Set up spec/role hunting idk. Seems to be town hunting more than anything. Last part of Iso looks better than the rest I guess. Alot of posts to sift through. (Null/Scum)

HeWhoSwims.

Spoiler:

234 gives most content. cant find much else to go from so this read is from one post alone. (Small town lean). likes piggybacking reads maybe

Skygazer

Spoiler:

Lol wth dude. (Null)

ruru

Spoiler:

A LOT of self meta. Thats a scum move. Intro super scum, but has a few posts I like later on. Agree with a few reads. (Null)

Antihero

Spoiler:

I like this guy. Top town read so far. Seems to be questioning reads honestly. Though I dont agree with all of his reads. (Town lean)

ManWithNoName

Spoiler:

VLA

Enigma

Spoiler:

The name fits here. Moderate activity. Fluffy stuff though. (scum/null)

Gamma Emerald.

Spoiler:

Dont like. "I have info I can share, but I wont for a reason not related to this game" This is anti town asf. No scum hunting, town hunting, or anything really. Just a few soft back and fourths. Set up Spec talk is only real content from this guy. (Scum)

skitter30

Spoiler:

110's vote seems odd compared to the hyper logical begining of ISO. I do like the proof of your read, even If I hate using meta. 272 seems like instigating. (Null/*Small* scum read) This is more of a gut scum read so take that with a grain of salt.

Vex Vience.

Spoiler:

Liking this. Very engaging, and it seems natural. Agreeing with alot of stuff I see from him. (Town lean)

VOTE: Gamma Emerald


TBH I havent been keeping up like I should until now. I still need to look at interactions between players a little more, as these reads are based of ISO's.

Sorry for sloppy format, I just copied and pasted some notes I wrote while going over said ISO's. Tried to make it pretty and failed, accidentally deleted most of the post. So here ya go.

Open to answer any questions for a couple of hours.

[FrankJaeger]

seeing VC now im ok with voting A50 as well.

[FrankJaeger]

ruru

Spoiler:

A LOT of self meta. Thats a scum move. Intro super scum, but has a few posts I like later on. Agree with a few reads. (Null)

Am I really hard null? I think I've produced enough readable content

Aside from the Sky wagon it's just been spec talk and a few awkward back and fourths.

All I got for now

Interestingly in this post you didn't express a strong scumread on me even though my intro was "super scum"

Wasn't really paying attention to the game in 140.

Yeah you have content, a lot of it is self meta.

[FrankJaeger]

GE might be designated mislynch?

Yeah, I'm starting to get the same feeling. However, SRing skitter is out of proportion. TRing Antihero is illogical. His reads on me and you can be forgiven IMHO, but why give HWS a Town lean here is beyond me. It looks like he set up the reads first then went to find reasoning for them (i.e. he's not using the same standards).

What standards are those so we can get a little more specific

[FrankJaeger]

couple that with the fact that he's refusing to answer my questions

Hello, Eragon. Is that you? "It's his fault anyway, because I'm never wrong!"

And when did I become the center of your universe? Do you realize your one and only obsession has become A50? Are you not looking for 3 scums? Are you not interested in sorting anyone else???

also im not eragon
i would tell u if u got it right or not... after the game

still dont like a50, especially after saying they were mafia bp
will reply to the rest of the things sunday

VOTE: frank
thats for the skitter sr
like skitter is almost certainly town to me

That's the thing he isn't certainly town for me.

How is he so town?

[FrankJaeger]

VOTE: Frank
HURT: hws

but why

[FrankJaeger]

Vex for what it's worth these reads are pretty rushed, and I gave a disclaimer with the vex read. But i would like to see why you're convinced he's town

[FrankJaeger]

Vex for what it's worth these reads are pretty rushed, and I gave a disclaimer with the vex read. But i would like to see why you're convinced he's town

*the skitter read

[FrankJaeger]

i have 102 posts (as of this one) v a50s 68 and skitters 64
something on those lines doesnt add up
also when it comes to reads when ur being asked for it, u should take ur time and think about it

we all know you have more posts. Sorry I didn't point that out.

[FrankJaeger]

What standards are those so we can get a little more specific

I dunno. You're NOT using any.

Also,

IF SOMEONE CLAIMS A PR TODAY

DO NOT CC

Spoiler: Here's why:

Generally speaking, doomed scum will fake a claim to out the most dangerous PR (if exists) according to the modifications (or lack thereof) they picked. If that PR isn't in the game then there will be no CC anyway. Now let me not go into too much details and go straight to the point:

- Claiming Vigilante when a Town Vig does exist = Just shoot the claimer. If they're BP we'll deal with it on D2, but there is always a chance the Vig will kill the scum w.o. the need to out themselves.

- Claiming Bodyguard: Chances are he BG will flip sometime during the game anyway, so we will know it was a fake claim. (Actually this one "may claim if they want to", since they're dying anyway, and most probably protecting the IC, so I'll leave it to your best judgement)

- Claiming Tracker: Obviously we want results from the Tracker, and the longer they live the more reliable their results will be, so no need to eat a bullet on N1 in exchange of lynching a scumster on D1. I hope you know what to do in this case though.

- Claiming Roleblocker: Also more valuable towards the game end. Best play is to block the fake claimer thus forcing scum to use someone else to do the kill AND making them lose their modification if they have one.

- Claiming Goon Cop: This role is intended to find us at least one scum if it could. If the fake claimer is a goon (and the only one) then you should claim, but how do we know that? Best play is to try and find others (if any) and if you get shot we will know whom to lynch anyway, but if you do get a guilty on someone else then that's when you claim and you give us TWO scums instead of just one.

If you disagree with any of this, feel free to do what you will, but

please

don't discuss alternative strategies. Discussing certain details may still give your role away w.o. even the need for scum to fake claim anything.

Thanks for your attention.

2/10

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Almost50

You can't yell don't talk spec after this lol.
Your vote stinks too

[FrankJaeger]

Vex I'm not asking for a wall, but a little more than a "feeling" would be nice. the auto town read just seems confident for D1

[FrankJaeger]

I dunno how to explain it, but it usually gives one of them away (which is why the majority of them prefer not to engage on the issue and pretend it didn't exist).

Think about this statement for a second.

[FrankJaeger]

Still waiting on ru and a50 to talk to me

[FrankJaeger]

What standards are those so we can get a little more specific

I dunno. You're NOT using any.

Also,

IF SOMEONE CLAIMS A PR TODAY

DO NOT CC

Spoiler: Here's why:

Generally speaking, doomed scum will fake a claim to out the most dangerous PR (if exists) according to the modifications (or lack thereof) they picked. If that PR isn't in the game then there will be no CC anyway. Now let me not go into too much details and go straight to the point:

- Claiming Vigilante when a Town Vig does exist = Just shoot the claimer. If they're BP we'll deal with it on D2, but there is always a chance the Vig will kill the scum w.o. the need to out themselves.

- Claiming Bodyguard: Chances are he BG will flip sometime during the game anyway, so we will know it was a fake claim. (Actually this one "may claim if they want to", since they're dying anyway, and most probably protecting the IC, so I'll leave it to your best judgement)

- Claiming Tracker: Obviously we want results from the Tracker, and the longer they live the more reliable their results will be, so no need to eat a bullet on N1 in exchange of lynching a scumster on D1. I hope you know what to do in this case though.

- Claiming Roleblocker: Also more valuable towards the game end. Best play is to block the fake claimer thus forcing scum to use someone else to do the kill AND making them lose their modification if they have one.

- Claiming Goon Cop: This role is intended to find us at least one scum if it could. If the fake claimer is a goon (and the only one) then you should claim, but how do we know that? Best play is to try and find others (if any) and if you get shot we will know whom to lynch anyway, but if you do get a guilty on someone else then that's when you claim and you give us TWO scums instead of just one.

If you disagree with any of this, feel free to do what you will, but

please

don't discuss alternative strategies. Discussing certain details may still give your role away w.o. even the need for scum to fake claim anything.

Thanks for your attention.

2/10

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Almost50

You can't yell don't talk spec after this lol.
Your vote stinks too

I think the analysis works fine

If it works or not isn't my concern here

[FrankJaeger]

Still waiting on ru and a50 to talk to me

... and I'm still waiting for you to explain why you're nullreading me when you're calling the majority of my content scummy self-meta and not giving any further analysis

Your readslist has only three townreads in a game with twelve players

Two of them are "leans", and one of them is a "small lean"

so basically I think I'm in the "lynch later" pile but you don't think it's politically viable so you just called me null

Youre expecting waaayyyyy too much from an early D1 reads list.

Why do I need to have such binary reads right now anyway?

Is it that unusual that I have such a big null pile?

Yeah you had a lot of self meta, which is bad. Way more scum motivation than town.

[FrankJaeger]

What standards are those so we can get a little more specific

I dunno. You're NOT using any.

Also,

IF SOMEONE CLAIMS A PR TODAY

DO NOT CC

Spoiler: Here's why:

Generally speaking, doomed scum will fake a claim to out the most dangerous PR (if exists) according to the modifications (or lack thereof) they picked. If that PR isn't in the game then there will be no CC anyway. Now let me not go into too much details and go straight to the point:

- Claiming Vigilante when a Town Vig does exist = Just shoot the claimer. If they're BP we'll deal with it on D2, but there is always a chance the Vig will kill the scum w.o. the need to out themselves.

- Claiming Bodyguard: Chances are he BG will flip sometime during the game anyway, so we will know it was a fake claim. (Actually this one "may claim if they want to", since they're dying anyway, and most probably protecting the IC, so I'll leave it to your best judgement)

- Claiming Tracker: Obviously we want results from the Tracker, and the longer they live the more reliable their results will be, so no need to eat a bullet on N1 in exchange of lynching a scumster on D1. I hope you know what to do in this case though.

- Claiming Roleblocker: Also more valuable towards the game end. Best play is to block the fake claimer thus forcing scum to use someone else to do the kill AND making them lose their modification if they have one.

- Claiming Goon Cop: This role is intended to find us at least one scum if it could. If the fake claimer is a goon (and the only one) then you should claim, but how do we know that? Best play is to try and find others (if any) and if you get shot we will know whom to lynch anyway, but if you do get a guilty on someone else then that's when you claim and you give us TWO scums instead of just one.

If you disagree with any of this, feel free to do what you will, but

please

don't discuss alternative strategies. Discussing certain details may still give your role away w.o. even the need for scum to fake claim anything.

Thanks for your attention.

2/10

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Almost50

You can't yell don't talk spec after this lol.
Your vote stinks too

Why not? I clearly said it was to avoid someone giving away their role. Did I give away mine? If so, what is it? If not. Why can't I yell bla bla to warn against such a mishap?

It looks to me that you didn't read for comprehension. You were just trying to find a way to move your vote to me (and I found it strange you voted Gamma over me in the first place), so why is your vote on me because of this specific post again?

Well 442 is horrible, your vote on me is empty, youre asking pointless questions in attempts to defend your sloppy reasoning. Reaching hard, especially in the quoted post above.

That's what's changed in the time between my 2 votes.

Oh and you haven't explained why I'm scum

[FrankJaeger]

If it works or not isn't my concern here

So what is?

Finding scum

[FrankJaeger]

I feel like Vex is definitely town from his efforts, not sure about anyone else

"Effort is alignment indicative, but only for Vex"

[FrankJaeger]

@FJ: You haven't given me a reason to my main question, so let me ask again: Why can't I yell "don't talk spec" after my 436.

It's hypocritical coming from town.
Seems like a scum move to me though.

[FrankJaeger]

I dunno how to explain it, but it usually gives one of them away (which is why the majority of them prefer not to engage on the issue and pretend it didn't exist).

Think about this statement for a second.

Can you explain how it's USUALLY gives scum away, while the OTHER MAJORITY prefer not to engage?

You can't have both here and it reads like a lie.

And this was your fucking bases for claiming to be scum? Dude...

You're constantly double talking and it's kinda awkward

[FrankJaeger]

*basis lol

[FrankJaeger]

What standards are those so we can get a little more specific

I dunno. You're NOT using any.

But you said

(i.e. he's not using the same standards).

Another reason I'm voting you.
You can't reasonably say these things and vote me without defending your position.

[FrankJaeger]

Still waiting on ru and a50 to talk to me

... and I'm still waiting for you to explain why you're nullreading me when you're calling the majority of my content scummy self-meta and not giving any further analysis

I don't like you tunneling me before I even started posting.

I mean if you really want, I can give a few posts I like from you.maybe it would help you see my null point of view on you

[FrankJaeger]

So scum will avoid it. Meaning town questions it. Except one of them is scum. Makes perfect sense.

How do you decide which one is the scum?

How do you come to the conclusion that it is remotely worth it to even try this?

Nothing makes sense about the whole thing.

Town have no reason to lie so early in the game for such a trivial reason.

[FrankJaeger]

Busy weekend catching up soon

[FrankJaeger]

Updated reads coming up.
In reply to vex -
Ive answered these things but a quick recap.
Its hypocritical to say don't talk spec after a wall of spec talk.
Rushed reads because i hadnt posted and it was late as shit+ being tired.

[FrankJaeger]

Vex am I correct in stating you are voting me because I have alot of nulls?

[FrankJaeger]

@GE

the slots that I'm most interested in right now (hws/sky/cjv) are all afk

well I guess I'm interested in this: how are you reading frank/hws/sky/antihero/enigma?

I'm actually pretty interested in your answer here

Frank I'm not sure on, I don't really get the hate
hws kinda feels like something is amiss
sky I think the inactivity is not really indicative of anything, but I don't really know what to make of their content yet
antihero I haven't seen a reason to be skeptical of yet
Enigma has felt lurky, I'd forgotten h was in the game until someone else mentioned him and he seems to have slipped back away.

These aren't really reads...
Im having the same issue though.

[FrankJaeger]

Vex am I correct in stating you are voting me because I have alot of nulls?

that and because ur reads are weak, as well as other reasons
id have to look at more detailed, posting the "creature ur logic is bad" post took all the time i had atm

Would I be wrong in saying its anti town to spend your energy on arguing with the I.C?

Im literally asking you to explain your top scum read, and you give a wall to a Conf Town...

Why arent you trying to further my lynch? You seem sort of complacent with how things are at the moment.

Is it that

YOUR

read on me is weak?

Anti town activity at the least.

[FrankJaeger]

no, but you just justified my own read.

in ur reads post as well, u said:

Open to answer any questions

for a couple of hours

.

only later to say to me:

Vex for what it's worth these reads

[the ones im referring to]

are pretty rushed, and I gave a disclaimer with the vex read. But i would like to see why you're convinced he's town

but why am i calling attention to that u might be asking?

because if u were available for a couple of hours, u could have used that time to make better, non-rushed reads, yet u didnt, u chose to use that time to answer question

This is the worst reason I've ever seen.

PLUS WHY WOULD TOWN IGNORE THIS 1 PIECE OF VITAL INFO -

Sorry for sloppy format, I just copied and pasted some notes I wrote while going over said ISO's.

Tried to make it pretty and failed, accidentally deleted most of the post

. So here ya go.

Open to answer any questions for a couple of hours.

I phone post most of the time. I gave a basic read least after fucking up my post. Offered to talk about these basic reads in more detail, as I had a few hours before bed. In these few hours before bed, I have several things going on. I cant conjure the motivation to retype a WHOLE READS LIST at that point.

Does town have motivation to take this utterly

horrible

read, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME ignore the context? Im not sure here...

At this point in the game Im going to call it Lazy scum hunting (kind of understandable- there is nothing else really going on).

[FrankJaeger]

VOTE: frank

ruru's feeling a little more townie now

also i like the frank wagon

I think I found 2 other post where you call me scummy , but nothing supporting.

Care to talk about it?

[FrankJaeger]

no, but you just justified my own read.

in ur reads post as well, u said:

Open to answer any questions

for a couple of hours

.

only later to say to me:

Vex for what it's worth these reads

[the ones im referring to]

are pretty rushed, and I gave a disclaimer with the vex read. But i would like to see why you're convinced he's town

but why am i calling attention to that u might be asking?

because if u were available for a couple of hours, u could have used that time to make better, non-rushed reads, yet u didnt, u chose to use that time to answer question

This is the worst reason I've ever seen.

PLUS WHY WOULD TOWN IGNORE THIS 1 PIECE OF VITAL INFO -

Sorry for sloppy format, I just copied and pasted some notes I wrote while going over said ISO's.

Tried to make it pretty and failed, accidentally deleted most of the post

. So here ya go.

Open to answer any questions for a couple of hours.

I phone post most of the time. I gave a basic read least after fucking up my post. Offered to talk about these basic reads in more detail, as I had a few hours before bed. In these few hours before bed, I have several things going on. I cant conjure the motivation to retype a WHOLE READS LIST at that point.

Does town have motivation to take this utterly

horrible

read, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME ignore the context? Im not sure here...

At this point in the game Im going to call it Lazy scum hunting (kind of understandable- there is nothing else really going on).

yes, but if u did, why not undo it?
phones have an undo feature as well, so u cant get away with the argument of "i couldnt undo", much less, how do u "accidentally" delete most of the post unless u were really trying to, or ur phone lagged

that

badly?

Dude wth, are you really pushing this thing? The technicalities of my phone are really what your going with?

Nvm Vex isnt so town anymore.

[FrankJaeger]

i also didnt ignore that, i found it irrelevant
the fact that u fucked up posting it doesnt negate the fact u had a couple of hours to retype it or just simply post "i fucked up my readslist, will post tomorrow when im near a computer"

If you think im going to spend the rest of a night with my face in my phone, youre wrong. Checking it every so often? Sure

Again this is the worst read ive ever seen

[FrankJaeger]

And this is the whole foundation of your best scum read...

[FrankJaeger]

i also didnt ignore that, i found it irrelevant
the fact that u fucked up posting it doesnt negate the fact u had a couple of hours to retype it or just simply post "i fucked up my readslist, will post tomorrow when im near a computer"

If you think im going to spend the rest of a night with my face in my phone, youre wrong. Checking it every so often? Sure

Again this is the worst read ive ever seen

then why not say that u fucked up reads, youll post them when u have access to a computer tomorrow?

Why are you assuming I would have access to a computer? Thats not the point I know.

I posted what I could, when I could. sucks for you that this is what your scum read on me is based on

[FrankJaeger]

also, idfk what ur thinking, but, ur one of my scumreads, why

wouldn't

i push u for more info when i can?
either way, it gives me more info on ur alignment
judging by the fact ur trying to deflect, not refute, make me think ur scum still

Jesus H Christ you are saying im deflecting on a phone error?

[FrankJaeger]

plz be more active as well, either u or i is the n1 kill, please help out before u get killed

Maybe I survive tonight if it feels like I won't be helpful.

if anyone was doubting vex was town this post should dispel those doubts imo

Oh jeez i think the opposite

[FrankJaeger]

Compare all that effort to his scum hunting

[FrankJaeger]

He isnt my biggest scum read. More null scum based of his interactions with me mostly

[FrankJaeger]

Vex seems like a fairly intelligent guy, so im caught up on his scum reasoning on me

[FrankJaeger]

Almost50 (3): Antihero, Gamma Emerald, FrankJaeger

the longer this wagon sits here the more i dislike it

What do you mean

[FrankJaeger]

@skit
Im making the point that its not very town to choose to argue with an I C over trying to push his scum pick. He took priority in something of less importance. Im not saying he was wrong in anything he said to him

[FrankJaeger]

Idk even though skit is ignoring it, ive posted my reasons for my A50 vote. Haven't seen anything to change it so far

[FrankJaeger]

Man creature ur hurting my feelings

[FrankJaeger]

This wagon on me is horrible guys. Really starting to see vex as scum as well.

[FrankJaeger]

Man creature ur hurting my feelings

Sorry, I'm supposed to side with town.

Save this post for later lol

[FrankJaeger]

I would vig enigma lmao but seriously.

Can post more replies when off of work tomorrow.

[FrankJaeger]

Would I be wrong in saying its anti town to spend your energy on arguing with the I.C?

why do you think this is anti-town?

Compare all that effort to his scum hunting

He isnt my biggest scum read. More null scum based of his interactions with me mostly

i think he's put a lot of effort into scumhunting?

wrt to his read on you do you think he:

a) is picking something stupid to force a fight over to scumread you and justify the read

b) genunitely believes the rushed-reads thing is scummy

c) other

It was B now leaning A

[FrankJaeger]

ok can you explain why B would tip the read down to nullscum than?

He isnt my biggest scum read. More null scum based of his interactions with me mostly

basically i was kinda confused how immediately after the rushed readslist thing you had him as nullscum? like in that scenario i think i would view someone as either:

-> scum who was making someone up to mislynch me

-> townie who was very convinced but very wrong

like i feel like i would have a strong opinion either way; i don't really understand how that argument would make you scumread someone enough to drop the townread but not enough to fully scumread them? like it's a weird middle-ground that doesn't fully make sense to me

Tried to be open minded, so his reasons weren't bad at first. Like he was kinda scummy in my eyes because I know im town, but the fact my phone error is what he wanted to stick with and push so hard just looks very scummy in the end.

[FrankJaeger]

Still like my a 50 vote over him though

[FrankJaeger]

Oh man this guy lol

[FrankJaeger]

u, urself screwed urself over by saying those reads were rushed, but yet u had a couple of hours to answer questions.
last i checked, if people are happy with ur lynch because u arent posting content, ud focus more time on actually making the reads, not trying to look productive by posting rushed reads, and then saying that u had a couple of hours to answer questions.

had u not said that those reads were rushed, id probably have dismissed it, yet by the fact u said they were rushed, it proves to me u are scum.

this makes sense to me

Youre both bad then

[FrankJaeger]

also i'm noting that you're kinda downplaying my tonal read accuracy on you when we both know i can read you tonally

Yea im not seeing how someone wouldnt down play a "tonal" read. What does that even mean anyway? Looks like something to say without needing to support it

[FrankJaeger]

these ones feel off tonally; i don't think i can explain it better than literally just 'feel off tonally'

Now how could anyone "downplay" this lmao

[FrankJaeger]

Going to rehash some reads tonight

[FrankJaeger]

it's more like I would think you would want to know why he's scumreading you if you think he's town or before giving out a townread

Is this alignment indicative

[FrankJaeger]

these ones feel off tonally; i don't think i can explain it better than literally just 'feel off tonally'

Now how could anyone "downplay" this lmao

But when you say this you make it sound like it's your opinion. That's clearly his opinion.

So your read... is based on his reads... of your reads...

Not buying it.