Open 736: Diffusion of Power - Game Over

[Carcalilly]

Btw, I'm an informed townie. I know this game is single ball and the scum team is of 3 members. There are probably many 1-shot investigatives and many 1-shot protectors. I won't crumb/hint my role. Let's just call say I'm basically a VT starting D2 (and will still get shot anyway).

Signed: Dr.Monkey

It literally says this in the setup post.

"There are:
3 Mafia goons
4-6 Night-Specific Cops
4-6 Night-Specific Doctors
Mafia knows how exactly many cops and doctors exist, but not who they are nor when they have powers."

[Carcalilly]

Btw no one is allowed to vote A50, capiche?!

VOTE: a50

[Carcalilly]

Not_Mafia guttown

how tho

[Carcalilly]

oh god so many important scummers

I'm flustered fufu




Notmaf I havent played with you before I don't think but do u wanna fight me 1v1 rn

[Carcalilly]

I HAVE TO PRESS ENTER LIKE 5 TIMES JESUS

Guys Unvote implosion yallre redicilus

[Carcalilly]

Not_Mafia guttown

how tho

It's gut.

Pretty sure that's just the burrito you had for breakfast

how do you feel anything about this dude

[Carcalilly]

Jesus what a shift

[Carcalilly]

I HAVE TO PRESS ENTER LIKE 5 TIMES JESUS

Guys Unvote implosion yallre redicilus

Why should they unvote me?

your entrance post was simple enough, and those votes seemed completely derped .-.

[Carcalilly]

N_M is scum. He's posted way too much.

He's like the inverse of Creature.

I don't understand why this guy is scum

[Carcalilly]

Which is why you are scum.

how

[Carcalilly]

I AM THE FUCKING TOP POSTER!!!!!

do you want me to challenge your place

[Carcalilly]

I miss the coherent players.

[Carcalilly]

He probably is.

Everyone is probably town

Except for you of course, you're scu,

Slip that he knows I'm not scum.

More votes on

Not_

Mafia.

are you always this awkward

[Carcalilly]

This is Gamma's scum meta, right?

Not sure, but

hiS OnLy pOSt SeEMs inDeEd bAd.

[Carcalilly]

I HAVE TO PRESS ENTER LIKE 5 TIMES JESUS

Guys Unvote implosion yallre redicilus

VOTE: implosion

I would vote you again if I could

[Carcalilly]

So I would consider this but only today, and only if someone can give a really good reason to.

ye it would only be a good idea today imo

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creature's town i think

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i have no idea what to do with spammy!not_mafia; he hasn't done anything like this in any of my games with him; the most verbose i ever remember him being is in mathdino's stack-the-deck in mylo where he was scum but he was trying to be 'helpful' there and this isn't that

idk how to read this

(not that i know how to read regular nm either mind)

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I HAVE TO PRESS ENTER LIKE 5 TIMES JESUS

Guys Unvote implosion yallre redicilus

this feels partner-y between carca and implosion

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I AM THE TOP POSTER

you are now annoying me

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This is Gamma's scum meta, right?

what do u think gamma's scum meta is?

==

I actually wanted to have some fun voting the newbie but I've never seen N_M say this much at all in any game I've played with him....ever.

VOTE: N_M

Not moving this vote all game until N_M is lynched.

T H I S. I S. A. L I E.
VOTE: PenguinPower

why is this a lie?

==

i expected to have more to say after reading five pages

gut town on nm and implosion, but i can't read either of them so my confidence in both of these reads is not super high

skitter is town

[Carcalilly]

good morning friends and allies

This pinged me.

More like Carcasilly

That shit fire cuz

Lmao

I don't agree with PP I think this is actually more indicative of town!NM. Not that I'm super confident of that.

Creature is probably town. Likely skitter and spaghetti also. I am holding off on townreading A50 for now.

Sorry I didn't post earlier I forgot this game already started. I haven't memorized the name/number yet.

I don't like carcalilly's start but then again it seems very ballsy as scum. But having an issue with the implosion votes was really odd.
VOTE: carcalilly

[Carcalilly]

[Carcalilly]

Yeah I think gamma is town. Scum maybe trying to set him up as today's lynch pool. Seems like a stupid fight to pick with PP as scum and also it doesn't feel fake to me.

Scum pool: {implosion, carcalily, PP, hanshen, cmod, enigma} + A50 is a maybe.

This guy is town

[Carcalilly]

i do know not mafia names now but i dont want to use it because it is confusing with town and mafia roles

Use people's usernames. The milktank is NM for "Not_Mafia", I'm Carcalilly, you're Spooghetioso

[Carcalilly]

skitter I was joking

Imploos Vs Bujaby looks like town v town

[Carcalilly]

why is activity a scumtell when half of the posts are shitposts anyway

[Carcalilly]

gamma probtown

I can't read spaghetti for the life of me

[Carcalilly]

okay bujy's logic is faulty but I can't see any scum motivation for what they're trying to do

[Carcalilly]

can we like just ignore NM

[Carcalilly]

bujabby give me a self meta

[Carcalilly]

your organization is very awkward and almost contradictory, but I feel like you're a sort of train-of-thought writer

[Carcalilly]

yes but i do not know peoples names yet so for now i use nick names or there picture as them

black pokemon has black pokemon picture they are Carcalilly and that is who i am voting it was a mistake that i said pokemon with no color the first time because i did not know there was alot of pokemon and i already said sorry for that so there is not a need to be meen about it and say it every time

there is too many pokemon!

lol I'm not a pokemon

[Carcalilly]

your organization is very awkward and almost contradictory, but I feel like you're a sort of train-of-thought writer

My turn.. why are you singling me out.. what's your experience with the rest of this playerbase?

People seemed to be scumreading you and I didn't know why. Honest to me you're one of my top town reads in this game by your reactions.
I don't have much experience except a little with Gamma and implosion. They're really hard to read but I don't think gamma is scum.

[Carcalilly]

Im very picky about who I decide is scum

[Carcalilly]

but if u really wanna know it's u and penguin I'm worried about

[Carcalilly]

sigh I'm going to have to get on my PC to actually be able to explain properly, expect one later, I promise, Lynch me if I break that promise

[Carcalilly]

Bujys posts are far too bold to be scum

[Carcalilly]

and tbh all this association if then blah blah crap hurts my already headache so I'm going to avoid it like the plague

[Carcalilly]

can we like just ignore NM

No
He’s fun

he confuses me

[Carcalilly]

How on earth do you guys talk so much in the space of 2 days xD haha
I feel like a lot of what people is saying and their reads and stuff are based on knowledge of players themselves and there seems to be a lot of filler stuff with no actual talk (like memes and big bold texts) stuff that to me is screaming out 'notice me senpai' see how much I'm contributing

welcome to mafiascum

[Carcalilly]

I'm actually kinda questioning my gamma read even though I wouldn't like it

[Carcalilly]

memes

[Carcalilly]

I'm actually kinda questioning my gamma read even though I wouldn't like it

You wouldn't like the new read or you don't like the fact you're questioning the current read?

I wouldn't like the new read. It's because I think gamma is valuable to town but his posts just whisper superficial in my ear occasionally.

[Carcalilly]

BTW guys IM at Disney so sorry if I don't post as much

[Carcalilly]

Lovebird + Spaghetti

why tho

[Carcalilly]

aww no RC get out of my game

[Carcalilly]

Do you understand why I'm not unvoting?

[Carcalilly]

VOTE: Lovebird

Whats the purpose of this?

[Carcalilly]

Lovebird + Spaghetti

why tho

[Carcalilly]

skitter needs to post just a little bit more

[Carcalilly]

aww no RC get out of my game

Serious request?

lol no

You pop up too much

[Carcalilly]

like replacing in then taking long to make first post is usually a scumtell

uhhhh or they just might be busy or trying to catch up

[Carcalilly]

hey guys sorry
So during the vacation I caught UTI somehow and I might be a little sporadic with posting

I'm still here though, if you have any questions just ask

[Carcalilly]

penguin and bujabber is so town Vs town Someome please agree with me and make them stop

[Carcalilly]

Wow this wagon on me looks shitty

I don't even know who's on it since I'm reading backwards but who the heck would wagon gamma

[Carcalilly]

VOTE: music and mail

Skitter has the only good vote so I'll just sheep it

[Carcalilly]

VOTE: PenguinPower

Naked vote from a slot that is not Not_Mafia noted.

This entire exchange is just terrible

[Carcalilly]

This is shifty but A50 seems to know that. Weird that he’d post it knowing it looked scummy, but my first instinct is to call it Town A50

UNVOTE:

To me; Gamma is as Town as Creature is (i.e. highest degree of confidence). Scum!Gamma was supposed to attack me for this vote and the way I phrased the post. I don't think he can even afford to fake a TR on me under the circumstances, and he always has trouble figuring out what I'm doing so it would have been most easy for him to OMGUS me and appear natural.

I'm having a little bit more faith in you a50

[Carcalilly]

Neat.

I'm willing to swing Gamma potentially because I don't think I've actually ever seen him as scum. At least I can certainly be persuaded on it. I don't know how reading him works.

you're the best of the worst on that wagon implosion

[Carcalilly]

@creature are you okay

[Carcalilly]

Carca why do you have to be a scum butt

you know you still love me

[Carcalilly]

I'm actually kinda questioning my gamma read even though I wouldn't like it

You wouldn't like the new read or you don't like the fact you're questioning the current read?

I wouldn't like the new read. It's because I think gamma is valuable to town but his posts just whisper superficial in my ear occasionally.

What happened to this superficiality or were you just scum trying to look like a good little townie (TM) by doubting your townread on your buddy?

key word occasionally

[Carcalilly]

As much as I hate roletelling based on activity the LB spot has got some problems

[Carcalilly]

You guys just refuse to bus, huh?

If you can see I'm the one who understands you

Been here all along so why can't you seeeee

youre wrong

[Carcalilly]

Scum trying to get the lovebird mislynch through since Creature is determined to lose this game for town

scum trying to save their lurk buddy

[Carcalilly]

Whoa, check? Did creative claim a pr or something?

[Carcalilly]

I'm confused

[Carcalilly]

I am sheeping not mafia because I like his name and have read literally nothing. Why is whoever I voted unworthy of my most gloripus and beautiful of votes?

you're amazing

[Carcalilly]

Whoa, check? Did creative claim a pr or something?

He claimed n1 cop
Everyone is a PR or scum though FYI so don’t let a PR claim shake your read

shit I totally forgot

I'm playing 3 different games and I hardly remind myself of the setup when I post

[Carcalilly]

If we don't lynch who I say we're not copping me.

can you stop

[Carcalilly]

Creature are you okay man lol fr

[Carcalilly]

I put my bills on M&M and Nick Cage maf team

[Carcalilly]

And I agree 100% please check M&M if we don't lynch them today.

[Carcalilly]

Creature are you okay man lol fr

Okay what?

you sound like drunk Yoda

[Carcalilly]

do you always play like this now?

[Carcalilly]

Why everybody acts so lynchbaity?

[Carcalilly]

aren't you like perpetually town anyway

[Carcalilly]

So can we lynch one please

[Carcalilly]

how about a50

[Carcalilly]

how the shit does MM have 158 posts already

hi bujy I wish I could converse with you but you inconveniently popped up right as my bus got to school

[Carcalilly]

And you wonder why M&M and NC scumteam ^ ?

[Carcalilly]

poor spaghetti

[Carcalilly]

OwO postie is that you

hold on imma shitpost my thoughts on this great stuff right here

[Carcalilly]

If you seriously think that a 3 person scumteam would be like "hey carca townlock one of your buddies and scumlock the other" makes sense than boy please relook

Your gamma read is 90% meta which is respectable enough, and you're inserting yourself a lot with those reactions. Tbh the "why give me town points" is kindof a scummy bleh, or is something I tend to see scum do a lot anyway. You seem focused on your interactions with him in and outside this game so why not like,, actually talk to him more???

Also I'll have you know that you are wrong and I am the second most interesting person in this game
But really that meta read is sort of gross. If you looked, I blatantly contradict myself and "flail" more so when I'm scum. The way I just sort of post makes it really easy for me to miss details that might be a scum slip, and I can remember those games vividly and the horror flashbacks are coming back.
bujabby is most likely town but if you actually read the context of those question you'll realize I was trying to find out why everyone was scumreading him at the time
gamma is awkward but he's probtown. My view is fully open to interpretation especially as the days go by.

hey guys a50 is scum because I said so

[Carcalilly]

can't we just lynch a50

we get the best of both worlds, a scum lynch and rc getting shot night 1

this is why ur town

VOTE: a50

[Carcalilly]

it was really good stuff but I still think ur scum mm

pedit aww why not

[Carcalilly]

let's lynch him

actually no don't lynch him

[Carcalilly]

Gamma is the lynch today by the way.

No.

[Carcalilly]

You're scum, I'm not blaming you for anything besides your bad choice of alignment

You keep digging that hole deeper for yourself. You will be embarrassed when I flip, but I frankly want it to be the case to prove you can't read my play for shit.

Honestly both of you need to chill that page 41 conversation is going nowhere.

[Carcalilly]

Almost50 you know I'm only scumreading you because your associatives with double flipped scum are really bad?
I actually have zero opinion on your current play otherwise.

I can’t see M&M and A50 being scum together
Rethinking
UNVOTE:

[Carcalilly]

Before I get into the quote wall, a lot of my scumread here isn't things that are easy to put words to because it's largely what's

missing

as opposed to what's

present

in their ISO that makes me scumread them. I'll do my best to refer to the things in this ISO specifically that I think are obviously scum because I think they are genuinely obvious scum purely on stuff that's present, but even with all the scummy shit in their iso there's still oodles more that I can't put words to. Like Maria I am well versed in Gamma Emerald meta having played a metric ton of games with him and him having been present in like, more than half of all of my modded games on site so this is a read that I put a great deal of faith in. He also knows that and should therefore have a great deal of faith in my ability to read him, but when I call him scum he doesn't call me scum for it he just tries to deflect me and push on other people. When he's town he flips the fuck out when I scumread him.

Spoiler: Gamma Emerald

So I would consider this but only today, and only if someone can give a really good reason to.

This is a scummy phrasing for reasons that you'll have to take my word on. I don't expect yall to get much mileage on this, but it's a thing that exists

I actually wanted to have some fun voting the newbie but I've never seen N_M say this much at all in any game I've played with him....ever.

VOTE: N_M

Not moving this vote all game until N_M is lynched.

T H I S. I S. A. L I E.
VOTE: PenguinPower

Gamma jumps on PP hot because of a point where he claims that they're lying about N_M's meta, something I would expect town them to feel very strongly about-

I recall being in a game with PP and NM where NM was fairly active and was Town

Until he says that I’m not giving him botd

-a bunch of quotes where Gamma does NOT talk about the lie but that I'm not C/Ping in for the sake of brevity

I actually wanted to have some fun voting the newbie but I've never seen N_M say this much at all in any game I've played with him....ever.

VOTE: N_M

Not moving this vote all game until N_M is lynched.

T H I S. I S. A. L I E.
VOTE: PenguinPower

Care to backup your claim? I can't recall a game I've played with him where he was the top poster...ever.

I didn’t say top poster, I just said fairly active

Then how was what I said a lie? I said "I've never seen him say this much in any game" not "I've never seen him fairly active in any game."

Seems like you're walking it back now.

Those look very similar tbh. Are you seriously going to get into a fight over nitpicks?

Those look very similar tbh. Are you seriously going to get into a fight over nitpicks?

Considering the accusation of lying (meaning I was deliberately intent on deceiving), bolding and spacing of letters, and the vote....yes.

Disagree it's a nitpick though. They are fundamentally different.

I agree they’re different. Not fundamentally, however. You’re saying this is the MOST active he’s ever been and scumreading him for it. I’m saying I remember him being similarly active in another game (btw for the record that game was Three-in-One) as town. I think that should be enough to create reasonable doubt in your lockscum read of NM.

Gamma Emerald jumped him at the start for lying but then when it came down to it it became more of a question of 'proving himself right' and saying that he's not giving PP benefit of the doubt unless he changes their read, calls PP out for reacting to being called a liar by asking him if he's going to get into a 'fight over nitpicks', and then at the end argues on an intellectual level that it should create reasonable doubt in his lockscum read of NM. This is

not

the reaction of Town!Gamma who thinks that PP lied. There's no effort to push on him, just to argue the 'correctness' of his position and no teeth behind any sort of push into PP. In the end he even backs right off and is put on the defensive. He's not interested in anything from PP besides defusing the argument.

I agree they’re different. Not fundamentally, however. You’re saying this is the MOST active he’s ever been and scumreading him for it. I’m saying I remember him being similarly active in another game (btw for the record that game was Three-in-One) as town. I think that should be enough to create reasonable doubt in your lockscum read of NM.

In that game (which was three games btw...this is one) he had 8 posts at this point. 17% of the posts he currently has. He increase in posting didn't happen until near endgame.

So, that was enough for you to scream that I'm a liar and vote me?

No, I misremembered his activity that game.
And I don’t think I ever walked anything back but w/e

He's defending himself to the person that he called a liar in big font like he believed in it. That's not town, that's scum Gamma who doesn't actually want to have this fight with PP.

It's a wifom argument of course it's contrived... if I said "I don't think scum would do that" someone will (or at least should) ask me "why not?" And I'd have to explain. I'm skipping that middle step.

That’s not my problem
I feel like your way of explaining it was rather roundabout

It's a wifom argument of course it's contrived... if I said "I don't think scum would do that" someone will (or at least should) ask me "why not?" And I'd have to explain. I'm skipping that middle step.

That’s not my problem
I feel like your way of explaining it was rather roundabout

Am I right though? Or would scum!you push a similar case as you did on PP and then kinda take it back?

The truth is I would push PP in the way I did, and have pushed someone in that manner in the past. Not for lying, but for another reason. Either way your argument still reads contrived and you appealing to being right tells me you lack a sufficient counter.

And more convoluted logic. My vote stays

"way of explaining it was rather roundabout"
"still reads contrived, lack a sufficient counter"
"more convoluted logic"

this isn't how town describes their scumreads, this is how scum describe people that they know are town that they're pushing on.

And more convoluted logic. My vote stays

That's what people said in civ mafia.

And if I recall you were one of very few people that didn't scumread me in day 1. Yet here you are.
Guess failure to meta read someone goes both ways.

How was your logic contrived in that game? And even then, your logic at this point is trying to push me+implosion because “Gamma changed my read on him which makes implosion possibly town, so they could be scum together”. That is some major mental gymnastics. How would I know that you would consider implosion town after that? In fact you just assuming we’re scum together is a red flag because that requires multiple assumptions. Plus there’s the fact I put myself in the spotlight. If you think I was saving him do you not think there were better options?

This post is truly scummy to the point of people not realizing that it's scum being essentially unforgivable.

I refuse to put detail to it, if you don't see it you gotta get better.

scum topic, clearly?
I just remembered that this game has no daychat for scum but that doesn't change my concern that her questioning him and not me is a TMI read.

I was going to question you on this but you are aware of the thing I thought you weren’t
I want to give townpoints for that tbh

Why give me townpoints for not remembering that scum have no daychat? If anything the fact that I've played this TWICE and didn't remember it suggests that I'm scum pretending I don't.

This is quickly turning into a commentary on various forms of government.

How???
This is such a ridiculous tangent it feels like misdirection

Yeah those responses don’t do much to convince me you’re Town
VOTE: implosion

Something something not how town talk about their scumreads, how scum talk about town that they are pushing on.

Having me sorted later in the game ups the odds of you not having to sort me at all because of scum nightkill.
Having me sorted earlier in the game means leashing most-all of the doctors onto protecting me.

with all due respect
no one but you cares as much as you do about ensuring your survival, and i'm sure you'll agree that stepping out of the frame of knowing you're town, having you sorted by a cop early would be pretty handy. I'm not necessarily advocating for that (I don't think it's a good idea at a glance to do anything to try to lead PRs around in this setup) but it's by no means bad from a neutral perspective.

99% of what skitter has said in the past 2 pages reads town to me, with the exception of a line that I think I had been misreading and can't even find on rereading where I thought she was townreading rc in a weird way and I'm not gonna try to keep finding it. I very much buy the way she's insisting this is outside her scumrange. I think most players who commonly talk about themselves as being easy to read are basically incapable of faking the "there's no way I can do this as scum" types of exchanges and it doesn't look bad to me at a glance.

VOTE: PenguinPower

I'm a little tempted to start BoP'ing rc though. But that can come in a few days if he keeps this up.

How is this play by RC worth a BoP read?

Gamma Emerald is familiar enough with people threatening to BoP me that this question doesn't have to happen, he'd start with the meat of why it doesn't need to happen in this instance.

The fact that you're scumreading 567 is ridiculous to the point where it doesn't merit a response.

What's your issue with the other response?

I don’t think having an off read is something that necessitates a BoP lynch. It warrants skepticism yes, but autolynching for that is a bad call. Me and MariaR have a good history of reading each other but MariaR also has a precedent of messing up sometimes, that doesn’t mean she’s scum for it.

He is voting Implosion and therefore agrees with me that he's scum, correct? So why is he arguing to his scumread that I shouldn't be BoP lynched for incorrectly scumreading him if he thinks that he's scum and that I'm town?

Sure, let's vote Gamma for now then.

VOTE: Gamma

@everyone else for reasons that I can't really put words to I kinda think Penguin is more likely to be town than not so I'm not going to support that lynch or allow it to happen.
I think that Gamma and A50 are scum together a very large percentage of the time and I think Gamma is an amazing lynch today, while I would also support Carca or Lovebird as tertiary options, Carca preferred.
Can we talk about our reads on Gamma/Carca?

This vote I don’t take issue with

I don't like Carca or LB much, and I guess I can hide behind someone else to vote Gamma having said I hesitate to touch him myself bc I often SR him regardless.

This means I'm alright voting either of the 3 for now.

VOTE: Gamma

Note to self: That's got to be the scummiest thing I posted in 2018.

This is shifty but A50 seems to know that. Weird that he’d post it knowing it looked scummy, but my first instinct is to call it Town A50

Neat.

I'm willing to swing Gamma potentially because I don't think I've actually ever seen him as scum. At least I can certainly be persuaded on it. I don't know how reading him works.

This however is pure horseshit. Just because he has no meta of scum!me he’s willing to follow onto the read, without even saying much wrt actual meta thoughts on me. And even with that he isn’t voting, which feels like he is testing the waters.

That ridiculous comment on A50 is SvS so much of the time and the fact that implo and myself are probably town means that there's likely 1 scum being addressed of the 3.

Good bujaber <3

Fine I'll VOTE: gamma but only because there's a chance RC gets confirmed soon and if he does get confirmed maybe I can trust his imp read for the time being.

Which he flipped for no reason

Another just this is a scum reaction and if you don't see it you won't see it.

Btw I’m like 70% on Carcalilly being Town
Will explain later if anyone cares

Why? I mean this makes most sense as SvS imo but.

gamma when you're town in a game with rc how likely are you to sheep him?

Pretty unlikely, even if I townread RC I don’t trust them to be rational enough to be worthy of sheeping.

I feel like if I actually cared I could crush your logic like a paper cup, maybe I'll do that later but I will say I think you're making assumptions, like when you say a50 is probably scum out of you/a50/implo in that wagon scan thing I did, rule of 3 does not work that way

crush them crush them

[Carcalilly]

Bro I'm helping

confirmed scum

Penguin Power bus. There's nothing shady about helping a good friend of mine bus their buddy. What's wrong with you?

Even if this is sarcasm it’s scummy af

[Carcalilly]

???

are you implying that the great PENGUIN POWER would claim scum as town?

I think not, heathen.

get yourself gone from my presence thou scumfuck.

No. When I flip town, never say you can read me again you egotistical fuckface.

Calm down gamma

[Carcalilly]

When I claimed you guys were a scumteam my level of certainty was like 20% btw.
But I felt like the reactions would be v telling

you really should have said that before jesus

[Carcalilly]

Carca's scum, we both know that, let's hit scum today and then reevaluate tomorrow.

That's fine by me.

VOTE: Carca

don’t bus me a50

[Carcalilly]

I also don't think the replace out like -necessarily- makes Gamma town, I do think it makes it worth lynching Carcasilly first though.

I like how throwing tantrums is apparently half a towntell for you. Not.

[Carcalilly]

PostieToday at 6:46 PM
Possibly
K I do more readering
NEW MESSAGES
PostieToday at 7:00 PM
In hindsight I despise every inch of Carca's posting to the point that she's now my top scumread and I would deathtunneling her if I were playing the game solo

That’s my speciality lmaooooo

[Carcalilly]

I mean, I don't really need time.

I just want everyone to hurry their asses up and lynch Carca so it can be tomorrow.

tomorrow will be a lot worse if you lynch me today

[Carcalilly]

I understood exactly why you would have made the claim as town, it just didn't really sink in until I thought you were town.

Please explain why that really confusing ass claim is town

[Carcalilly]

I’ll only claim at l-1 for good reasons

also penguin who are you sheeping

[Carcalilly]

Instaid of focusing on how shitty my posts are at least consider what they have to say

[Carcalilly]

also penguin who are you sheeping

I believe that's fairly obvious to someone who has obviously read up.

M&M??????

[Carcalilly]

getting waffle stomped down the lynch drain again but what I really dislike is how everyone is just completely gonna ignore M&M because we’ll cop them anyway

[Carcalilly]

lmao lynch them tomorrow and avenge me o7
Nick Cage is their partner. One more scum to go.

[Carcalilly]

I’m night 2 but okay

[Carcalilly]

we’ll u already know my reads

[Carcalilly]

any more questions for me b4 I go

[Carcalilly]

and thanks for lynching me while my internet was off for the night btw

This is my dads phone I was gonna call my boyfriend against the household rules hoho

[Carcalilly]

I always get lynched either alignment

cmon guys let’s twilight party

[Carcalilly]

I’m pretty sure I was

[Carcalilly]

getting waffle stomped down the lynch drain again but what I really dislike is how everyone is just completely gonna ignore M&M because we’ll cop them anyway

this is a literal scumclaim again btw
'ignore M&M because we'll cop them anyway'
like if I was scum getting copped I'd get lynched
this spews that she knows that I'm town and is still frustrated with the fact that I'm not gonna be lynchable, so scum

Not how I read that but okay
I feel like other recent Carca posts are scummy
VOTE: Carcalilly

L-1

VOTE: Carcalilly

speak again?

[Carcalilly]

well since i already called u out on night 1 you chose the next night

good for you carcalilly, good strategic planning

so do you want me to lie and say I’m night 9,857

[Carcalilly]

but gamma put me at l-1

what the fuck

[Carcalilly]

hell no that’s only when I try to save myself or shitstorm info

[Carcalilly]

oh

[Carcalilly]

sorry never mind

[Carcalilly]

uh
this is awkward

[Carcalilly]

I’ll only claim at l-1 for good reasons

also penguin who are you sheeping

What makes you think a claim would save you
Everyone’s either PR or scum, a PR claim doesn’t help you (unless it’s a weird circumstance)

it’s my ritual in honor to my second game to claim at l-1

[Carcalilly]

Carca why do you have to be a scum butt

you know you still love me

i'm just going to copy and paste this for the rest of the day phase

because she literally claimed scum.

so did penguin

[Carcalilly]

Skitter is actually the lynch tomorrow: I don't think that she's more than 5% scum but I legitimately think we're more likely to consecutively lynch scum by removing her vote from play.

Youre making this game incredivly frustrating for me

lynching skitter is a downright mistake

[Carcalilly]

wait who is nick cage

[Carcalilly]

you guys are the one who literally just threw a shitclaim

[Carcalilly]

im not salty you’re salty

[Carcalilly]

as much of a crap hole you’re kinda making this game mm your last like 3-5 posts were redeeming

[Carcalilly]

See...I was with you on the two previous but you stepped off without really explaining why. Lovebird slot is my safe backup given meta (and was in your potential pool as well) Your bounce back to implosion doesn’t really make sense to me.

Who are you metaing?

[Carcalilly]

okay, maybe that’s your way of doing things and I respect that but honestly it’s making it harder for me, at least.
I just think you’re looking at this way more complexly than it needs to be

[Carcalilly]

I’m sorry but I don’t think implosion is scum ;;

was it lovebirds replace out or something that was meta indicative?

[Carcalilly]

well since i already called u out on night 1 you chose the next night

good for you carcalilly, good strategic planning

Lol this made me think of something I heard of months ago
There’s a tale where a prisoner on death row is told he’ll be executed on a specific week but he won’t know which day, he uses logic to determine it couldn’t be any day, and then they execute him on some day (I think it was the last one)
I’m pretty sure I told that wrong actually but it’s not like I’m trying to tell it to tell it

wasnt it on a Wednesday in the end

[Carcalilly]

damn that’s really specific



unrelated thought but where’s not_mafia when you need him

[Carcalilly]

And my reluctancy to lynch the LB spot is deteriorating until NC can enlighten us or redeem the spot but I really don’t expect that to happen

[Carcalilly]

M&M I think you should like go to sleep or like take a break

[Carcalilly]

Implosion that wasn’t a bad vote or anything but it was a little too bold for the current situation.

[Carcalilly]

take a chill pill pal and take a good re-evaluation of the last like 10 pages tomorrow, esp your own posts

[Carcalilly]

if you're voting me you're a bad player or scum flat out.

I mean this is true.
no one has put a quarter of the gamesolving effort into this game that I have.
eighth?

if you're just going to ignore that and vote me because my scum game is good that really does, at best, make you a bad player.

you have a right to feel that way but just take to mind that we’re all just people playing a really intense game

I’m only talking to you like this now because I can legitimately see your stress leaking and that’s not good for any of us.

Which head am I talking to?

[Carcalilly]

What I want to do is get the best cop answers possible because clearly everything is muddy to this point.

Who do you all think will give us the most information as either alignment? I’m wanting to do either A50, PP, M&M, or maybe even bujaber.

[Carcalilly]

[quote="In post 1244, Music and Mail"]This is RC lol Postie isn't like this[/quote]

I can’t get on discord though but ik your day was not cool. If it’d help you can pm me and rant with no shame that god is watching. This is completely off topic with the game but yeah.

[Carcalilly]

Why is NM in there?

[Carcalilly]

spoogh is borderline impossible to read

but I see that we hardly get anything from the spoo/Cage/NM slots

[Carcalilly]

the second part is shitposty ig

[Carcalilly]

honestly the more I think about it the more the LB slot hurts my brain
it either needs to be lynched or someone real diligent needs to replace init

[Carcalilly]

gamma what do you think about the game rn

[Carcalilly]

IMO everything spoo does is just NAI lmao

[Carcalilly]

lmfao

I’m curious what changed your read

[Carcalilly]

yes, you don’t have to make it big and elaborative but it just surprised me

[Carcalilly]

postie is that you

[Carcalilly]

also I’m officially going to bed guys sleep well

[Carcalilly]

wait lol one more post

1. fair point cuz I actually have no legitimate explaination as to why i find it so scummy but it just is

2. I think town would walk around with blatant honesty to avoid mucky waters but maybe it’s not 2016 anymore
Then again I don’t agree with any of the stunts rc pulled today

3. I do. I’m criticizing the townread itself, I’m not trying to discredit it. You’re not the only one, a50 reacted in a similar matter. Half of the reason why I tried my best not to flip the fuck out when y’all fakehammered me. Too much shit for one day.
I townread you for reasons other than the fact you ragedout

And i apologize if my posts are starting to sound passive aggressive

[Carcalilly]

wh4t

Huh???

I think that was a wrong game mistake.

[Carcalilly]

tomorrow please explain the sudden implosion change

[Carcalilly]

I’m sorry implosion I’m really tired that’s sarcasm correct?

[Carcalilly]

No it was actually a right game situation I was just saying what to the whole implo/bujaber scumteam which does me a big confuse frand.

Btw on this; I’d had this feeling for a while but I think Bu’s janky read on me+implosion could be trying to tie me to implosion

if you’re talking about scum!bu then this seems too tryhardy

[Carcalilly]

I can do anyone on that list but gamma
Preferably NC tbh

[Carcalilly]

fine then I’ll do spoog :/

[Carcalilly]

I’ll vote tomorrow if other people are okay with it

[Carcalilly]

I’m going to write in my notes that it’s completely impossible for skittem&m to exist

[Carcalilly]

postie has a very, very strong opinion that Spoogh is faking their newness which I agree with, I just did'nt necessarily think it made them scum until I ran out of other scumreads.

I missed this due to responding to other things
Why?

And even if they’re not faking the newness their reasoning that barley exists is shallow at best

[Carcalilly]

I’m going to write in my notes that it’s completely impossible for skittem&m to exist

you would have said this the same game that we actually were SvS too then.

That is godteir scumplay that I cannot handle

[Carcalilly]

forget it enough talk time to do
VOTE: spoog
In return any available n1 cops you m&m

[Carcalilly]

but when we get close at least let spoog talk about this before a lynch

[Carcalilly]

Firebringer is the gold standard of reading me, or was? And him scumreading me was no more than 30% scum but that still put him light years ahead of anyone else. You overrate the correctness of your reads badly if you think that I'm ever 80% off of your read, but that's the end of this discourse for now.

Dont be so concerned about this

[Carcalilly]

BuJaber your posts are beautiful in my eyes

[Carcalilly]

also, why are you so confident about M&M being town?

[Carcalilly]

Who are you considering my friends?

It was easier than typing which one of the people you played with that I haven't played with / don't know much about are scum:

Implosion
Carcalily
M&M - don't know postie, know RC but not really well because I either die early or he/I replaced out or whatever. I think we played a newbie once long ago.
Skitter - I know her well enough I'd just like to know what you think

Oh...so you want my readlist? Yeah, no.

I haven't played with Carcalily or Nick Cage before, so not sure why you're asking me about them being my friends. I don't want to lynch implosion anymore. Skitter seems fine. RC is not a D1 lynch and is making this game enjoyable for me.

This post is oddly very redeeming.

[Carcalilly]

I'm starting to feel less good about lynching Spooghettioso again

{RC
Carca
Skitter
A50
Bujaber
Creativemod1
Creature}

is looking like my 7P poe pool

Wait what is this and isn't creative the n1 cop anyway

[Carcalilly]

Like if you're not going to cop check me, I want to be able to leash your cop check outright to ferret out said scum.
And in that case we're still disadvantaged tomorrow because we'd be able to lynch them AND have an inno on me if I was the check, versus the guilty not conftowning me.

Does it really suck that people's treatment of my slot is fucked up? yes. it does. but that's not your problem and we can't solve it this game.

They do have a point and knowing what the heck m&m is would be hella nice

[Carcalilly]

this is going to be another painful night isn't it

[Carcalilly]

that sounds very plausible

about the lynch, people are between NC and Spoog, I'm going to ask this stupid question again but what do you all think we can get out of each one anyway?

[Carcalilly]

I do not believe that his refusal to cop me is scum motivated.
Realize that CMod doesn't have nightchat and I wasn't in the game from the start, why would he be afraid of me? No one in this game has communicated that my town game is good.
I believe him when he says that he doesn't want to cop me because he doesn't want to play follow the RC and that he wants to actually suss out scum on his own.

WHOA WHAT IF THEYRE SCUM BUDDIES AND THEYRE BOTH FACADING THIS FOR TOWNCRED

Like CMod is scum that claims cop
And M&M is offering to be copped and gets towncred because scum wouldn't want to be copped
But to avoid actually doing do Cmod refuses, so when one of them flips scum they won't be both caught in contradiction

[Carcalilly]

i also vibe spooghettioso/skitter interactions as having high probability of being SvS which is why I've been pushing for that lynch so much.

So if spoog or skitter flips scum the other is scum too
Hmmm

[Carcalilly]

(like that's

literally the only thing

behind my enthusiasm of lynching spooghettioso tbh)

Yeah but I am definitely for lynching spoog instaid of/before skitter
Because their difference of contribution are obvious

[Carcalilly]

spoogh townflip doesn't mean you don't trust my skitter read.

[Carcalilly]

@carca - nah it must be your eyes that are beautiful

fufu

[Carcalilly]

Nick Cage is scum 10/10 times here. Such a bad push on a leading wagon.

Don't even feel like responding since he's either twisted or taken everything out of context. Still think I like him (because of the gimmick) - it's too bad he's scum.

VOTE: Nick Cage

I'm off for the weekend.

this quick omgus makes me like my read even more

that’s a bad word

[Carcalilly]

I think that’s a pretty good case on skitter when it’s all put together tbh
VOTE: skitter30
A50 wants it
M&M wants it
I want it
Where doing this mane
Were majing this hapen

I still don’t understand why skitter is scum.
There are a LOT of better options to lynch today.

[Carcalilly]

Jesus guys what’s the vote count now

also is nobody going to comment on my marvelous mnmcmod theory

[Carcalilly]

Sure he’s not the best but penguin is not THAT bad

[Carcalilly]

awww I really thought I hit something there

[Carcalilly]

Spoogett is null
UNVOTE:

How many votes does NC have :/

[Carcalilly]

gamma who should I vote

[Carcalilly]

Carcalilly: Vote PenguinPower
==>
where doing this man
WHERE MAKING THIS HAPEN

fine
VOTE: penguinpower

[Carcalilly]

if nm thinks so then I think so

[Carcalilly]

hi sorry I've been gone reading up now

[Carcalilly]

Carcasilly is scum

I'm N1 cop

VOTE: Carcasilly

lol

[Carcalilly]

If this is a reaction test I'm honestly way too tired to do shit about it right now

but if you actually believe that there are two N1 cops and NM decided to investigate me despite any possible interest then maybe it's better if you just put me out of my misery

and I will legitimately self vote if you all want to lynch me tomorrow so I can at least use my fuckin role so I can actually give you something substantial before I go

[Carcalilly]

I'm sorta pissed RC wasn't investigated tbh.

[Carcalilly]

Any n2 docs are on me or this game is a loss
In fact

VOTE: IMPLO

You guys are going to throw this after I'm gone

Both the n1 and the n2 kill said that gamma and implo were both sci don't care what your reads on them are you guys are still alive for a reason and that reason is your reads are shit

lmao I highly doubt scum would want to kill you anyway you're kindof a scumfuck

[Carcalilly]

Tbh I don't find it scummy what NM did because why would scum fakeguilty day 2? Down the line it could be a gamechanger but at this point it's scum suicide.

[Carcalilly]

And I have no idea how NM plays but honestly that didn't surprise me much lmaoooo

[Carcalilly]

implo even if it's sarcasm mnm is still deathtunneling the shit out of you and I don't like it.

[Carcalilly]

Implo did his 100% scumtell on the last page
He is now treated as confirmed scum.

His partner is never outside of {gamma NM nic}

elaborate

[Carcalilly]

A50's a goddamn busdriver

[Carcalilly]

Doesn't scum know how many cops there are?

Also, for educational purposes, please give me some of your experience in this setup ;3

[Carcalilly]

like half of m&ms posts are incoherent you shouldn't be that supposed lol

[Carcalilly]

Idfk

NM don't make me a meme

[Carcalilly]

Why does implosion have a wagon? I don't like it.

[Carcalilly]

If either implosion or skitter is scum then I'd guess the other is too.

If NC is scum then MnM scum

[Carcalilly]

Wait, what was Cmods result?

[Carcalilly]

I promise y'all I'll get MnM
They hurt my brain

[Carcalilly]

NM why do you think I'm scum?

[Carcalilly]

I don't know how the fuck you could get a guilty on me.

Assuming you're actually a N1 cop, why investigate me?

[Carcalilly]

no me entiendo

[Carcalilly]

kk
you can lynch me first aa long as I get to do what I've gotta do
best case scenario I out two scum B)

[Carcalilly]

Why do you wanna bus me so bad, creature? </3

[Carcalilly]

what does that mean