[Game Over] Open 743 - The Crown of Misery

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Why do you have a headache malakitty?

Not surprised

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Why do you have a headache malakitty?

Not surprised

Elaborate

It's Malakitty

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Okay, time to spend my free time upon this game

even though I feel bad for not doing something more productive in my RL

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Atleast I can read some fanfiction here meanwhile

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Setup is scumsided

Not anymore

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Setup is scumsided so of course I roll town

zzz

VOTE: Auro

Hmm, now why doesn't this seem genuine?
VOTE: Dva

I understand your feeling.

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VOTE: Leodanny

Not random BTW.

I'm curious now.

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Hmm, now why doesn't this seem genuine?

Which part, the vote on me or "this is a scumsided setup"?
If it's the latter, she did express the same to me while the game was still in sign-ups.

Talk about something not genuine

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VOTE: YvottaCat
More serious than random,

[redacted]

.

Mods triggered

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VOTE: dva

Lamist af

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what is this, a vote count for ants?

You've not found it very difficult to townsort me in our previous (completed) games, so why the "RVS" vote on me?

I'm blaming you for talking me into joining this game and then having the audacity to let MDS roll me town.

wow this sucks imo

VOTE: DVa

wow dead game imo

time to go pretend i'm a cat tbh

rb town alongside Egix

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The game will begin when 10 players have confirmed their roles and all undead have chosen theirs.

At one point everyone but Inferno and Leo had confirmed (so there were 10+ confirmations), but the game wasn't open (so, scum hadn't chosen their roles yet). Could be one of those two is scum and that was the holdup. Doesn't prove anything, but I'd keep an eye on them.

Town

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@rb what power role would you choose as scum?

What was the purpose of this question?

Depends on which ones village got, otherwise Zombie

What would you choose? Why are you asking this?

wow probably roleblocker imo

Because you're "rb"?

Something_Smart, why have you not voted yet?

Hey Leo! You should place a vote somewhere, too.

Very useful

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Thor can be Wizard

lmao I remember calling him a wizard in some newbie game

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My "non-serious content" is "LAMIST"?

Yes

Or were you joking when you said you rolled town?

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Needs more buzzwords, let's make it WIFOM LAMIST with some ATE

Bad post

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Here goes my posting streak, it was like 15/50 to my record

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We're lynching rb. I've seen this happen too much and lost games as town because of it. Not letting it go. My vote is on rb for the entire game until one of us gets lynched.

I applaud your courage.

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Malakitty (L-2)

: Lamees, Auro, Dunnstral, Nako,
DarkLightA

Dunnstral (L-3)

: Persivul, rb, Egix96, Malakitty

rb (L-6)

: Leodanny

Leodanny (L-6)

: Thor665

DarkLightA (L-6)

: Creature

Something_Smart

How many scum are in this group of 3 players?

YyottaCat
NotNova
Malakitty

actually i really hate this

it's just the 3 least active players

one is VLA, one just replaced in, one joined the game late

VOTE: DVa

back to this, lamees can wait for now

Good point

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Auro is doing like a LOT more questions than he was like in one of our previous towngames where he was more assertive a bit early on, but that could in large part having to do with this list being... gnomic and oblique so far. So he does feel a touch more reactive here but I don't know I'd call him scum for it yet

Looks w/w with Auro

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I seem to recall liking NotNova although I can't remember why off the top of my head.

-_-

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Well after checking it seems he only has three posts so I might have just been misremembering,

but 76 does read as pretty genuine

.

I sorta disagree it looks genuine

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Buzzwords kill.

Ironic

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wow finally a good player in the game

Sadly she doesn't look town

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I have been in a game with lamee where I read her as scum right off the bat. She hammered me ; I made her scum slip and she went unlynched and won the game

Well, sucks

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I don’t like that ^post either

We're two

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though for some reason I'm not liking a bunch of players this game

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I have been in a game with lamee where I read her as scum right off the bat. She hammered me ; I made her scum slip and she went unlynched and won the game

Hammering a town player is not a scum slip lol.

Scum still usually tends to look bad when hammering or L-1ing

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I thought the blatant self-contradiction in 233 was towny but also 240 reads like trying too hard to be flippant...

I'm probably just not liking this rb v Lamee catfight

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Some players do have playstyles that 'feel' anti town or scummy. But that's a long way different from a playstyle that is reactive as opposed to reactive. Scumhunting is an activity - lack of scumhunting is scummy. I'll agree this might lead to players who play very poorly being lynched every game - hopefully it will teach them to not play poorly. I fail to see the issue.

I agree it's important to separate play from playstyle. That said, if a player plays scummy, Day 1 is the optimal time to root them out since apparently you can't discern their alignment from play, no? Are you arguing we should not lynch scummy looking players Day 1? Clearly you're not, because that would be daft - so what is your suggestion of who we lynch Day 1? I submit it is best to lynch someone who looks scummy - and that can include playstyle. You're either right, and huzzah, or you're wrong and you get info. Both are preferable to lynching someone off an inherently bad case, which playstyle is not.

Woops, I missed this. Now I am confident Thor is town.

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I'll agree this might lead to players who play very poorly being lynched every game - hopefully it will teach them to not play poorly. I fail to see the issue.

<slow clap>

What's the problem with this?

He actually doesn't have a problem with it.

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Edit:

do not talk about ongoing games

lmao I agree

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I mean, he’s just saying wow
Imo
True
One
Vote lamees
Two

It's annoying but not AI

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I don’t like that ^post either

We're two

just realised Yyotta was actually my predecessor

oops

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- Then, scum can't kill her without giving us an investigation leading to a partial clear (partial because GF could be in play)

What GF has to do here? I thought Angel was vengeful, not cop

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You're
not
an
IC.

She's technically close

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Does anyone else think that rb's most recent posts (from about #339 onward) are very scummy in tone?

No

Apart from the supposed scumslip, that is?

What supposed scumslip?

Scum jumping in rb sounds pretty funny

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also because mala's likely town

Not really

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On one side of the inn,
Thor and Auro were flinging heavy words at each other in a heated argument. On the
other side, a small group had formed and was gathering supporters. This time they called
for the death of Lamees, one of the leaders of the militia.

Heh

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Bad ss, hanging Lamees isn't good play since I'm pretty sure they're town and scum doesn't fake claim that role

I think angel can be blocked by the vampire scum role though - which also feels like a pretty common scum pickup when MS meta is to claim important town power day 1 when it isn't needed. I still think lynching lamees is the wrong call though

people who talk setup spec without doing much else are usually scum

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I don't think 342 and 347 come from an immortal.

If anything, if rb is scum one of the people he mentioned there could be immortal.

VOTE: rb

???

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- Then, scum can't kill her without giving us an investigation leading to a partial clear (partial because GF could be in play)

What GF has to do here? I thought Angel was vengeful, not cop

Oh right, I saw the Immortal rolecard now

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Malakitty (L-2)

: Lamees, Auro, Dunnstral, Nako,
DarkLightA

Dunnstral (L-3)

: Persivul, rb, Egix96, Malakitty

rb (L-6)

: Leodanny

Leodanny (L-6)

: Thor665

DarkLightA (L-6)

: Creature

Something_Smart

besides, I'm running out of
creative ways to replace people

You can just pretend my predecessor died in a heroic way and I joined in

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Scum-
Auro
Persivul
Malakitty
Rb
Something_smart
DLA
Thor

You're right, we're playing an extended version of this setup.

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Page 37

I'm meh about Nako's entrance

Oh nvm, Nako is gonna be some competition

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Damn, can't wait to finish 'reading' the last 6 pages

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I like Nako's analysis. Reads as genuine.

I like Nako's analysis. He posted a lot.

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How the fuck am I being insecure?

You are using a ducking shit ass one game to do a false read on me. I didn’t sheep RC. I had a lynch pool before RC asked me to lynch lclp. I had a pool of three. Does it matter which of those three to lynch first. Plus RC claimed cop and RC and I played many games together so I was pretty ducking confident he was town so it was me working with a town read.

No the town was aboultse fucking garbage that game. We had one that decided to lie about being a PR and they weren’t. That’s game throwing right there. Instead of listening to confirmed fucking town that had flipped they didn’t even reasses the flips and lynched wrong in lylo. It’s not an insult when it’s true. It’s how people get better.

It’s like my line of field of work. You have to take criticism if you aren’t going to able to take it you aren’t going to get any better. If you don’t show you are trying then have fun trying to either hold a job or have people take you seriously.

Yey Malakitty is finally towning up

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Lynch:

Lamees

The angel claim?

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Spoiler:

The case on Mala

Looked back at Mala's ISO, and I think after her recent posts and what others have pointed out, there's enough to actually build a small case here.

1. Her treatment of Lamees' slot. She begins by suspecting Lamees in 222, I immediately ask her if she's had previous meta experience with Lamees. She says she lost to scum Lamees once. I point out that Lamees does what she's doing (including the extreme tunnelling) as town. There doesn't seem to be a response to that (apart from "this is pretty bad"), or a honest re-evaluation of Lam's slot. Lam even acknowledges that she was "super noob and doesn't know how town won" in 287. The re-evaluation doesn't even have had to read her as town necessarily -- just substantiate why this meta doesn't match her town meta compared to her scum meta, OR acknowledge that town!Lamees can do this and give us reasons to why she's a good lynch otherwise. With neither of these things, it makes her push suspect.

2. Mild fearmongering on my slot. After she called my meta-defense of Lamees "pretty bad" and implying I'm scum "white-knighting" Lamees, I tell her it's informed by personal history with Lamees, and bring up the relevant game in 699. Her response? She dismisses it as a slightly mis-reppy "meta read" (it's not really -- it's using meta to show why someone *isn't* necessarily scum for something they did), and then says I'm good at implementing my town meta in scum games. Now, what's the purpose of that last sentence? Again, this doesn't look like honest re-evaluation of a stance, just fearmongering.

3. Her townreads. Persivul seems to be townread in general, so that's there. While DVa was pushing Mala, DLA's never mentioned Mala once, so I think that's a safe townread. Something_Smart and rb both seem to townread her on weird reasons, rb in his usual style and also based off a pretty bad "reaction test" (which I'm getting sick of), and Something_Smart complimenting her on "solid play" which I don't really see. I admit none of us have great TRs -- but here, they do look a bit political and a tad bit pocket-y. Her lynch pool apart from Thor has the otherwise-biggest wagon (Leodanny), one tunneled slot (Lamees) who she wants to lynch through the claim, and another OMGUS-y slot (Dunnstral) who she never really commented on before 945. This is not a point that's scum-indicative in itself, but is consistent with Mala being scum.

4. The lurking. I think she's getting into the game now, but posts like 778 rub me the wrong way when they're like, the only posts of the day. Her activity patterns do seem to be more when she's being attacked *shrug*

This is not a solid case by any means, but I think I'm happier with a vote on her than Leodanny. If we're running out of time and have to consolidate, I wouldn't really mind switching to Leodanny and lynching him if necessary, although I still think his flip is meh.

Got bad feelings about this

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Yep Dunn’s votes consist of voting only the following: Auro (rvs vote?), leodanny, vytottacat and me

Yeh, looks bad

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Anyways I’m going attempt to have a date with my pillow since I’m spamming the thread (not on purpose I can’t sleep)

Can't wait to see your return

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I think Egix is probably scum here so I will vote the wagon that he is not on.

Want to try Egix?

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10000 wallposts

My feeling about this game

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I like Nako's analysis. Reads as genuine.

I like Nako's analysis. He posted a lot.

*She

I should remember in future games that male anime avatar = she and female anime avatar = he.

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10000 wallposts

My feeling about this game

Hehe the irony as you've just filled 3 pages

Not with wallposts and there are players that like that way

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Yey just finished this up

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Hmm, now the hard part: find a good scumread

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Why yay?

because I like having townreads, specially in a game I had difficulty to read some players

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Tbf breaking it up makes it easier to read

Sure, I tend to just skip through wallposts, while I'm more like to read multiposts (like rb's).

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As I am watching

and drinking

Bleach and this game is about ghouls, what about we call the evil side Hollows?

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Auro - Dunno
Creature - Town because I replaced scum!Yvotta
Dunnstral - Dunnostral
Nako - Town just because analysis
Persivul - Town because things I shouldn't be proud of
Leodanny - Dunno
Malakitty - Town
rb - Town
Egix96 - Can go
Lamees - Angel claim (Town)
Something_Smart - Town
DarkLightA - Town
Thor665 - Had as town

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I can explain my townreads later, but my PoE for now is:

Auro
Dunnstral
Leodanny
Egix96
Thor665

and I might have midterms (like Nako)

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Malakitty (L-2)

: Lamees, Auro, Dunnstral, Nako,
DarkLightA

Dunnstral (L-3)

: Persivul, rb, Egix96, Malakitty

rb (L-6)

: Leodanny

Leodanny (L-6)

: Thor665

DarkLightA (L-6)

: Creature

Something_Smart

Yeah I had a change of heart on DVa

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Hmm, I don't remember Persivul posting that much

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Leo is lynchbait though

Hence why I put him as dunno

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What supposed scumslip?

rb thought that they could get killed if they lynched angel!Lamees, but that only works if the target is scum.

I also somewhat thought Lamees could kill like anyone (for example: vigilante), then I noticed the immune to angelic fire part of the role PM.

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Wait serious?

This needs an extension

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I still wanted a deadline extension

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VOTE: Dunnstral

Meh

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Let's start with the shitty hammer:

VOTE: Auro

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1133 and 1138 I said multiple times because I wanted more time to think of a decent wagon rather than a compromise wagon

however I had to go with Dunnstral because apparently there was no deadline extension

Also considering Dunnstral was at L-1 and we had like 18 hours left, I deduced it was scum because scum would want to cut what the lynchee has to say, like it happened when Irre hammered me at Open 738 even though we had like 1-2 hours left and I was arriving home to say plenty of stuff.

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Thor can also go

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Probably don't wait until the last day to lynch

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How would mafia know there's a cop?

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Malakitty (L-5)

: Auro

rb (L-5)

: Thor665

Creature (L-5)

: DarkLightA

Auro (L-5)

: Creature

Nako, Leodanny, Malakitty, rb, Egix96,
Lamees, Something_Smart

I don't need to townslip anyway to be seen as town.

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Meh tbh fuck this game if there's some zombie

It's like a LyLo autoloss

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Something_Smart also looks bad

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Mafia are informed of the town power roles in the game. They then get to pick their power roles to counter town.

So basically a reverse Stack the Deck.

So there's def an immortal and ghost in the game. At least the ghost is confirmed useless at this moment.

Why ghost though? Zombie seems like a better role, or even witch.

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Can we go back to normal scumhunting? I don't feel like sliphunting rn

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Aaaaaaargh this game just got a lot harder.
No idea why the Town JOAT thought it was a good idea to claim VT, but what's passed has passed...
Not voting yet, I need time to reevaluate.

pedit: Lemme guess, you thought he was a Witch right?

Back to thinking Egypt is town

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I preferred poke-creature

I'm still Poke, but cooler

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So I'll say it again, either rb knew there is a cop or auro/dla forced it into a slip.

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You'll have to see who was the slip though

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Did rb slip or not?

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839 is convincing enough

It's not a slip, it's just "you didn't complete the phrase to fit your town pov you scum"

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Also can someone explain me the Auro and rb can't be town together part?

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rb (L-4)

: Thor665, Something_Smart

Lamees (L-5)

: DarkLightA

DarkLightA (L-5)

: Lamees

Malakitty (L-5)

: Auro

Auro (L-5)

: Creature

Nako, Leodanny, Malakitty, rb, Egix96

Also can someone explain me the Auro and rb can't be town together part?

If RB is town, scum who *knew* there was a cop in the game could use this to push RB, and thus benefit from making it look like a slip. Since I pointed it out, according to Lamees, it makes me scum doing that.

So basically your accusation is legit or you're scum making it up?

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Goddammit you're breaking my flow here

I can give you a real flow

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rb (L-4)

: Thor665, Something_Smart

Lamees (L-5)

: DarkLightA

DarkLightA (L-5)

: Lamees

Malakitty (L-5)

: Auro

Auro (L-5)

: Creature

Nako, Leodanny, Malakitty, rb, Egix96

If there is a zombie we lose right? Since witch hunter was killed, lynching zombie won't do anything.

@mod

does angel kill zombie permanently?

I thought zombie would survive only one lynch

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Hosting a game with one unlynchable scum role that endgames town is a nice way to throw your modding reputation to the garbage bin, so I don't believe this is the case.

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Good feels about this zombie speculation.

Lamees and DarkLight still both town.

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Good feels about this zombie speculation.

Lamees and DarkLight still both town.

Nah,

I think DLA could still be scum

. Lamees is lock town for me though.

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Also saying X could be scum is lol

Anyone could be scum barring mech clears

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wow who cares actually imo

VOTE: Thor

pretty good vote

VOTE: Leodanny

i wanna lynch that guy

You could like decide on a single vote, right?

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town: mala

What happened now?

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I'm mad when mod is like:

someone: I'll V/LA over two weeks
mod: Fine I won't bother you to play the game two weeks then

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Lamees
DarkLightA
rb
Egyx

Gotta find one more town

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VOTE: Thor

Thor and S_S are both scum

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My experience with rb says him throwing votes around isn't necessarily scum.

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Nako is the other town

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Auro
Leodanny
Malakitty
Something_Smart
Thor665

Lynching here should win town the game

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I agree with all of those townreads except rb and Nako.

Also my scumgame looks nothing like this, you should know that

I'm outdated on your meta

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>Says town should look for scum in the Mala+Dunn wagons (1328);

Sure, that's some Mr. Obvious moment because obviously scum would be on one of these wagons

>Throws TRs on Mala, Creature, Egix, ALL on the Dunn wagon;

I don't think he realised that though

>Votes for someone OFF the Mala and Dunn wagons;

He voted quite a lot tbh so obviously he would hit someone off

>I point out the inconsistency;
>"Good point" and flings his vote at me

Dunno, gotta check

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It hasn't changed that much, here is my most recent scumgame. I replaced in late but it's still pretty representative of how I play.

Okay

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Yeah, it's an inconsistency. Sadly I can't tell if it's a town or a scum inconsistency because that kind of inconsistency has been happening a lot lately.

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I don't read players off consistency, there are plenty of scum that can be more consistent than town just by having an agenda. I don't think rb expects to get anything by throwing votes around unless he thinks someone will townread him off AtE.

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Even if rb is scum, he's not the one furthering scum's win condition now more than just basic survivalism.

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I'm definitely not townreading Nako off her predecessor. I've seen her doing three soulreads and I was like "nah, scum wouldn't pull three townreads and use soulread as reason".

I hate her lurking afterwards, but plenty of players are lurking nowadays so I gotta sort through them.

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can someone just do town stuff so we can PoE lynch

tia

Looks like my presence doesn't matter at all.

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too much effort

Color me unsurprised.

@Creature - if you really town read this dreck you probably ought to get back in here and defend the hell out of it. Otherwise it's an awesome lynch.

I don't really feel like defending this, but I predict he will flip town and I am usually right about that.

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I don't really defend Mala though

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too much effort

Color me unsurprised.

@Creature - if you really town read this dreck you probably ought to get back in here and defend the hell out of it. Otherwise it's an awesome lynch.

I don't really feel like defending this, but I predict he will flip town and I am usually right about that.

You have 0/1 lynches correct so far. That's not usually right to me.

I mean when I predict someone will flip town, not scum

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I sorta did and am doing today

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I am fine with rb/dla/auro lynch today (that order)

I think they could be all town.

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You said if we lynch auro town wins the game.

Yeh, Auro is in my PoE, but I townread the other two.

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Also I feel like you do have some experience with Auro?

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rb (L-3)

: Thor665, Something_Smart, Lamees

Thor665 (L-4)

: Creature, rb

Lamees (L-5)

: DarkLightA

DarkLightA (L-5)

: Egix96

Malakitty (L-5)

: Auro

Nako, Leodanny, Malakitty

Nako is the other town

but_why.gif

The soulreads

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wow i wish leodanny was a player in this game

"let's just leave someone with two weeks+ V/LA post whenever they want, even if only after two weeks"

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I think DLA is right and Lamees is lynchproof tbh

Dumb angel to push because if DLA thought that of me, why is he voting me? According to this logic I'm being hit with, voting me is then equivalent to voting no lynch. Since I'm lynch proof. Stop please.

I am fine with rb/dla/auro lynch today (that order)

Why am I no longer in the lynch pile??

I think DLA is right and Lamees is lynchproof tbh

Dumb angel to push because if DLA thought that of me, why is he voting me? According to this logic I'm being hit with, voting me is then equivalent to voting no lynch. Since I'm lynch proof. Stop please.

I am fine with rb/dla/auro lynch today (that order)

Why am I no longer in the lynch pile??

Rip

Great contribution

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But you were on the wagon and we should definitely lynch on the wagon today because I feel there are two or three scum on there.

Isn't all three on one wagon too much?

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I'd rather just ignore whether someone was on Dunn's wagon or not, otherwise players like Thor will get away for no reason.

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I'd rather do Thor. Persivul was getting into him and his vote on rb looks agenda-y.

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Yeah S_S's vote is equally bad to yours.

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I don't think it's likely that rb and Auro are both town.

and he still comes with this

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One of {Thor, Auro}, but I believe it’s Thor. Possibly Dunn. Egi isn’t playing similar to our last game.
I don’t have a read on Nako or Bristep they are null.
Rb is prob town. Smart, persi are both town. DLA is prob town.
Leodanny im unsure because he’s so new, but gut says scum but he might be town IDK.

This is pretty close to where I'm at.

Mala could be scum - but probably not for the reasons that have been given.

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No, but I expect you to dictate the scumteam's kill regardless.

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Would you accept your scumteam kill someone like Auro or rb?

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Thor and RB are both "aggressive" players, in the sense that they laid down their thoughts and made their pushes pretty strongly throughout the game.

Their ISO is way different though.

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Also I'm assuming scum are more likely to votepark on the top trend that town doesn't seem to move on.

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idk, just that Persivul kill feels like something a scumteam with you in would do considering Persivul is an older player.

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Also you still give the feels that your posts are just walls and nothing more. Like, staying on rb while leaving others on their own.

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It's the classic "too many walls, nothing progressing"

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and because rb wagon seems to have scum somewhere.

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I think it's all a matter of PoE and scum are obviously gonna attack whoever I am townreading (such as rb or Lamees) if I happen to be right.

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Mini 2044 can easily repeat if scum lets town start listening to me

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He was one of the players doing reasonable stuff rather than just vomiting walls.

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Like, RB's cop TMI slip is the closest I have to a grip on this game

I seriously doubt that's a slip. Sometimes people forget to say "if" or "hypothetically" or whatever.

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I'm having trouble identifying town!you, Mala

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I'm having trouble identifying town!you, Mala

and she keeps going missing after just one post :/

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VOTE: Malakitty

I have no idea what the VC is though

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VOTE: Thor

[Creature]

and then just PoE'ing the rest

What was the rest again?

[Creature]

I feel like we should probably wait replacees be replaced

[Creature]

Even grosser because everyone else seems to be lurking their butts off.

Hey I'm trying to do something, but it's hard with 1-2 slots being replaced and 2-3 others prod-dodging.

[Creature]

Yeah, on further thought Thor getting to lynch range with NO significant counterwagon with all scum alive implies pretty much his wagon was scum-motivated.

Are scum lurking

or not

?

[Creature]

but we're pre-flip and logic dictates that scum are gonna be in you/auro/S_S

What is this "logic"?

@Creature, RB has mostly only been yelling reads without any real justification for anything - and when asked, the most you'd get out of him is "wow too much effort", and I bet he's going to respond to my above question the same friggin way. Which part of his play screams "reasonable" to you?

I don't think his play is reasonable. Just irreasonable town.

[Creature]

Malakitty (L-3)

: Thor665, Auro, Nako

Thor665 (L-4)

: Malakitty, Creature

Auro (L-5)

: rb

DarkLightA (L-5)

: Lamees

Leodanny, DarkLightA, Something_Smart,
Egix96

Are scum lurking

or not

?

If Thor's scum and the lack of counterwagon is due to scum lurking, both scum have to be hard lurking so much that they didn't even drop in to cast a vote.

The lurkers prolly contain scum, but "Thor's wagon isn't fishy cos his buddies are lurkers!" isn't so likely.

Still, what one scumbuddy can do to save Thor other than looking bad?

[Creature]

He was one of the players doing reasonable stuff rather than just vomiting walls.

Really? You said this^, what "reasonable stuff"?

Oh, it was in response to rb's "i wonder why persivul died honestly"

[Creature]

and end the day.

Kinda unfair.

[Creature]

VOTE: Creature
He got a prod.

because nothing is happening at all

[Creature]

Yeh, I should probably start acting

[Creature]

Don't worry about it.

Also, I think you're forgetting about Lovers and Losers

I'm sorry but this is kinda pinging me still, I want to evaluate how genuine your own thought process on arriving at my townread is, here.

Also yeah I wanted to forget that game you did make a subtle pocketing attempt there tho come to think of it, so please do explain.

If you remember that readslist I made a while back, you'll know I said before that you seemed towny to me but could be deepwolfing.
Since then, I've been getting more townvibes from you.
Me putting you in my towncore does not mean I'm 100% locking it in that you're town, because if this game ends up gong to LyLo (let's be honest here, it likely will) then I will reevaluate you if you're still alive. Same goes for anyone else that I'm currently townreading.

@Second bit, it's okay, I think that game was pretty forgettable anyway
Not sure what you mean by saying I made a "subtle pocketing attempt" though. Was it when I said "Michael makes good points" or...?

Why rb? If Mala's red it directly implicates rb, so this means regardless of Mala's alignment you believe rb is potential scum, right?

In that case, why weren't you voting him when he was being wagoned? I just checked back and your vote was on DLA; however I pointed out that it doesn't seem like scum would push a claimed PR like that and you acknowledged that. Walk me through this?

rb is someone I've been unsure about for quite a large part of this game so far. Sometimes I think they're town, other times I think they're scum.
I don't think that I can clear anyone if Mala flips town tbh.

As for why I didn't vote rb when you say I had the chance... I dunno really, maybe I just thought he was town at that moment? I don't remember.

Egix still town yey

(but didn't read his posts)

[Creature]

Creatures defence is interesting though. Could be scum, but for now

The heck

[Creature]

VOTE: Creature
He got a prod.

You got two. Why shouldn't we lynch you?

[Creature]

Just realized that both vacant slots have V/LA's listed that are ending soon.

@Mod: please don't modkill any players until their listed V/LA's are over

Hopefully then the game can pick up again.

Maybe you can make the game pick up.

[Creature]

VOTE: Creature
He got a prod.

You got two. Why shouldn't we lynch you?

Because my meta is not rely on low activity. I am town in this game and I am very much inactive.

"I can lurk all game because that's not my meta, but you can't lurk one single day"

[Creature]

when the game wasnt at a halt creature was posting

So this means...?

[Creature]

Succinct replaces Leodanny.
BBmolla replaces DarkLightA.

Yey new meat

[Creature]

heya I'm town

Okay, I trust you

[Creature]

VOTE: Mala

sheeping Thor until it goes poorly

or not

[Creature]

Thor665 (L-2)

: Malakitty, Creature, rb,
BBmolla

Malakitty (L-3)

: Thor665, Auro, Egix96

Nako (L-5)

: Lamees

Creature (L-5)

: Nako

Succinct, Something_Smart

UNVOTE:

nah he's scummy let's not. hm.

or yes

[Creature]

what do you think of your predecessor's claim?

what do you think of my predecessor's claim?

it was a test

you didn't fail

Yey all town

[Creature]

I'm pretty happy with my vote on Thor.

[Creature]

I guess someone made that alt just to get away scumreading the most obvtown players for the laziest reasons possible.

[Creature]

I guess someone made that alt just to get away scumreading the most obvtown players for the laziest reasons possible.

Read's not lazy.
Creature's iso's too short + sparse in content. Nako's observation's valid.

So you opened my ISO and held down the Page Down button until it hit the bottom?

[Creature]

I can guarantee there was fairly good content.

[Creature]

So you opened my ISO and held down the Page Down button until it hit the bottom?

I opened iso on 1669. You may have more than originally assumed.
VOTE: Lamees

I think you should just admit you haven't read anything at all.

[Creature]

He's a troll alt

[Creature]

actually maybe they're town

Yeah, but they're dumb.

[Creature]

I think you should just admit you haven't read anything at all.

Already implied; started from 1625.

Yeah, because you missed a lot of important stuff that would likely reverse your list.

[Creature]

Meh, probably indicates Succint doesn't have buddies to catch him up.

[Creature]

VOTE: Egix96

VOTE: Malakitty
Wagon on Dunn yesterday was scum motivated. It appeared when we tried to lynch Mala.

VOTE: Creature
He got a prod.

literally voted my 3 townreads

If it's scum, it must have a lot of balls.

[Creature]

Let’s just lynch Thor so I can get a

guilty report on Lamees

kthx

???