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Just so everyone is in the clear, i've read the setup and while i really don't understand a single thing about the "points mechanic" i did gather from the setup that we are informed about who the mafia roles are already.
So Baezu has already told us in the second post which mafia roles are in the game:This means (If i'm understanding this right) that the mafia has looked at the townie power roles and decided they want the 2 specific roles. (Putting aside the generic goon which is called "ghoul" in this setup)
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Will always resurrect the next day if lynched. Can only be permanently killed by other means.
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Basically the mafia rolecop.
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[quote="In post 64
-I don't like how Norskee is using appeal to his newbiness. Not a fan. My very vast experience with this (hi penguin, please confirm) makes me want to say that this is scummy.[/quote]
I can see why you'd think that. I've accused other people of this off-site.
But i am honestly just terrified of having signed up to such a complex looking setup, though my fears have eased a bit by now. I think it might not be as complex as i initially thought after all.-
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Hmm it's a bit difficult to butt in with my reads since i can't tell whether anyone is deviating from their normal townie behavior. But Hectic/Hoptic seems the most genuine out of everyone so far. For Penguin i'm undecided. Vorkuta... I'm not sure i can put my thoughts on him properly into words yet, but something about his posts feels slightly... off. I'll keep an closer eye on him.-
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OMGUS? What's that?In post 194, Vorkuta wrote:
-self awarenessIn post 193, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Hmm it's a bit difficult to butt in with my reads
-OMGUSy shade given that I've accused him of overplaying his newbie card
Ladies and gentlemen, I think we have a winner
Well sorry for being a tad bit more submissive in this gigantic game. I've only played a couple of mafia games off-site with people I've known for years (And mafia games is a relatively new thing we've started doing as well, the reason i signed up on mafiascum is because one of the players told us he had past experience from this site, so he basically told us plebeians how we were supposed to play the game) This is one of my first games with a bunch of unknown people that type a lot more comprehensive, informative text and puts a lot of what is said under scrutiny compared to what i'm used to.-
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@Vorkuta
So what my google search told me about OMGUS is "oh my god you suck".
Are you saying you think i have slight suspicions about you because of spite? Because that's just plain wrong. It has more to do with the language and tone of your comments. And also the fact that your extensive setup speculation about the zombie makes it seem like you are "fishing" for PR's like Hectic so elegantly put it.-
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I know i'm probably going to piss off Vorkuta with me "using my newbie card" yet again.In post 258, Hoptic wrote: Gamma's recent posts are chuck full of LAMIST WIFOM OMGUS ATE elements and I think we can POE lynch him now based on VCA and WKING.
But what the actual **** am i reading? Lmao.-
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Yep that's me right now. I don't want to generate content unless i feel sure about what i'm saying. I've been lynched day 1 so many times lately just because i tried to aggressively solve the game and got my ass kicked.In post 643, Vorkuta wrote: Speaking of political and reactive- norskee... has uh... also um... yeah idk what to make of his ISO<REDACTED>
I'll post my reads eventually. Just give me some time, we've got more than 10 days before the deadline. No point rushing things.
Please do not refer to ongoing games. This will be your only warningLast edited by Baezu on Mon Sep 02, 2019 6:58 am, edited 2 times in total.-
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If we identify the zombie by lynching him or gaining insight through PR's the information can be used to find his scum teammates and the slot will remain as a guaranteed Lylo lynch. So i don't think it will be a big problem, it actually seems like a bad PR for the mafia to choose. Which leads me to believe that maybe they aren't so intelligent?-
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Phoenix. Your post 596 mentions about Ben:
Why the sudden change?i don't really understand why the wagon is happening and i dont think its great. it's very easy to vote someone because they made a few shitty posts early game about jesters (17 & 28) and haven't had overall great tone. but i don't think the wagon has much substance because at EoD i doubt benhalkum will be lynched. like, a lot of stances wrt this slot feel like "im lazy and ill vote here" rather than "solvey" - a lot of votes on him feel convenient rather than solvey.-
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My scum senses are tingling a bit. Your thought process described here is even more scummy than if you'd just vote and start another wagon tbh.In post 716, Platinum Phoenix wrote:Most active player currently scum read us. If I tried to start a wagon people would start complaining I'm trying to start a wagon and not vote with us, thus destroying my idea of pressure. Voting for an existing wagon - ben being the only current one - I am applying the pressure I wanted to.
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Changing my vote.
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I didn’t say that. I hope Phoenix didn’t do that intentionally because even i was thinking "wow that guy sounds scummy!" Before realizing i wrote the rest and the other sentence was just taped on there from some other quote. This is why you use previews people. (That’s rich, coming from myself)In post 821, Gamma Emerald wrote: Yeah hold up actually. Who is this partner Asgard speaks of?-
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I don't know... what?In post 843, Vorkuta wrote:So completely fragmented and no counterwagon...
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Damn Unstuck. You're a analyzing monster. Wish i was as good as you. Townie points approved.
Your post 868 seriously making me reconsider voting Ben again.
Also i made reads for 3 people yesterday, but i'm too lazy to finish the rest so i'll just post what i've got now and complete the rest later.
(Yeah i know it's slightly outdated. But i just want to get it out there so people can understand i'm not lurking, just kinda lazy.)
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post 875 and 876 are kind of weird when coupled together. It's like Chennis is opening with the suggestion that scum is WIFOM'ing townie me. Then immediately in the next post he suggests that my comment is actually scum me trying to salvage a scum teams bad play?
Are you casually dropping the fact that you know i'm town but then you remembered that you're supposed to paint townies as looking like scum?-
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>When you're lowkey roasting the entire mafia team by questioning their intelligence and someone thinks your actually trying to make yourself look stupid...In post 905, Platinum Phoenix wrote:The way he's saying "maybe mafia is just dumb" can feel like he's lambasting himself for choosing Zombie in a way that seems contenty
smh...
I guess i'll assume that too? I don't know how i got a nickname out of nowhere, but i'm fine with it.
So why does that reasoning make me more vote-worthy than the other people that changed their vote from Ben? I also don't see why changing your vote is scummy. Especially since i think Fake-PP seems legitimately more scummy than Ben. (Though i don't exactly feel strong townie vibes from him either.)In post 923, NaCl wrote:VOTE: Norwegian it kind of feels like he hopped on the wagon but is content to sit there.-
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Huh? Downplay my skill? What do you mean?In post 952, Gamma Emerald wrote:
I think Xin Eohp's idea was that you were trying to downplay your skill by saying that. Which maybe that's what you meant already?In post 947, NorwegianboyEE wrote:>When you're lowkey roasting the entire mafia team by questioning their intelligence and someone thinks your actually trying to make yourself look stupid...
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I don’t think you have from what i can see in your iso.In post 957, RCEnigma wrote:Sooo there are a lot of people I can confidently say wouldn't be scum with Norwegian. This feels really deja vu ish to type down, did I already say this?
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So it’s less natural coming from me, but with Phanton Phoenix (Who has done almost the exact same thing) you don’t scumread as much?In post 966, ofrhz wrote: Asgard seems to continuously focus on the “why would scum pick a zombie” conversation topic, which I don’t really think is all that natural. Also I see posts related to this topic every time I check in but I’m not seeing how this is line of discussion is really developing any reads
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That’s an intriguing thought. I suppose my belief is that i (theoretically) would more meekly follow along with whatever the veteran team members were doing. I doubt i would take full charge in a game of this scale. I would probably not ignore any strategies they proposed either.In post 983, RCEnigma wrote:So I guess the argument is do you think he's masterminding the scum team or ignoring a scum plan?
Well it’s not like my rambling thoughts can prove much. Move along with the discussion peoples.-
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Ohh, someone's proud of his work.In post 1013, Something_Smart wrote:That game was a disaster, but not really due to the setup. Town just kinda checked out of the game completely.
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Shh. Don't use that word. Do you want Vorkuta to start hounding me again?!In post 1029, Platinum Phoenix wrote:has barely said anything and you scumread him already?
This is something I feel like newbies say a lot.-
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Phoenix and Benhalkum both seem kinda sus.In post 1065, NaCl wrote: Instead, I'll ask you a question. Do you think Fake-PP is scum? And apart from that, who are your other scumreads?
Also i’m thinking Beta Sapphire and Hoptic needs closer examination.
There are also a couple people that seem to have been awarded a "strong townread" from many, even if the substance in their posts makes it seem a bit unwarranted. I’ll leave you to figure out who i’m talking about. I’d prefer it if you were thinking independently rather than having me explain everything. This is assuming you are on the town’s side.-
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It could be seen as a "scum refusing to read his own teammate" sort of situation no?In post 1106, Something_Smart wrote:
No. How am I making you look scummy?In post 1103, NorwegianboyEE wrote:@Something_Smart Are you trying to make me look scummy on purpose?
Just try to read me like any other slot and don't worry about it. I don't mind.-
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My view on it= Bandwagon on Ben accumulates due to him sounding kinda scummy in the start of the game before disappearing for a while. He then comes back and people switch their attention to Phoenix hydra due to them also sounding a bit suspicious.In post 1112, Something_Smart wrote:There haven't been enough votecounts for me to really get a good idea of how wagons have been moving. Why does the wagon exist?
So both of the wagons are in my view, not very warranted, my main reason for participating is to pressure whoever sounds the most suspicious at any given time. Just your average Day 1 groupthink...-
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What is even going on right now? Last vote count is like 5 pages back. Ugh, it's hard to follow this.
I kinda feel the same way as you do right now.In post 1136, PenguinPower wrote:Can we get this to L-1 and lynch or move on pls?
I'm not a fan of the talking without voting stuff.-
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That’s why we lynch the hydras first.In post 1169, RCEnigma wrote: Aaand heres my Hydra rant. Idk I kind of place the blame on hydras that don't communicate and consolidate in their pt how they are approaching reads. It shouldn't be on individual players to discern multiple playstyles they may clash with naturally and multiple conflicting reads within 1 slot. It's not an interest of mine tbh. But hey.-
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