Open 770: Monty Hall Mafia (Game Over)

[Elsa Jay]

Is it bird hunting season?

So many damn birds.

[Elsa Jay]

Alright, since I replaced into a slot, I can't say anybody would target me for some reason since I didn't exist yet. Lovebird is someone I dont know, but I'm just gonna pray they aren't important to most of ya so I can just survive day 1.

This is me defaulting and refusing the n1 protection btw. I also refuse the day 1 lynch but that's obvious.

Too protect, i uh... Theres so many dang replacements I can't tell who was up for selection during the mafia pre-game phase.

Lovebird, Chemist, and Gamma plus 1 I see were garunteed, atleast. I think Pop too? Actually I think I just want the list of people who were on the selection for the pre-game first.

[Elsa Jay]

@mod

was the kill list locked before or after replacements?

Thanks Chem. And seconded.

[Elsa Jay]

That actually helps. A bunch.

VOTE: Chemist

I also saw the same person can't be protected twice, so I'd rather keep the options of the big name people open for day 2, so having Chemist around day 2 seems alright to me. Or we can do the double protect if nessecary.

Also nice to know that we know who's poisoned AFTER the protect phase but before the lynch. So we can discuss the poisoned target during then.

[Elsa Jay]

The rules also basically say "first unprotected player". So... It'll just go down a list anyway. Which is why I was wondering if they had locked in a list during the pre-phase.

[Elsa Jay]

Did you expect me not too?

[Elsa Jay]

Oh damnit why did y'all hammer him during my power nap. Fot shame.

[Elsa Jay]

Gamma dying is meh, since I thought Chemist was the "Meme" choice as he put it. It's what I would've done instead.

But you all also gave scum an easy target day 2 instead if Worst is actually town. That's why I wanted Chem protected even more damnit. We could've used the double protect option instead tommorow on the combo of Worst/Penguin or something.

I'll think about my lynch target now but dangit guys you all ruined my plan in the span of a nap.

[Elsa Jay]

It wouldn't have been concealed, just I was gonna explain it after my nap. Clearly my beauty sleep was a curse put on by a scum agenda.

Also I don't like how Pops did that immediately either and assumed I'd go along with it.

[Elsa Jay]

Well, since I was offline, and it happened with Gamma and friend voting you as well, are you assuming the 4 people on you are the main bulk of the town then?

[Elsa Jay]

Huh. So that leaves me, Chemist, and Bingle then.

[Elsa Jay]

The birds have fused their minds. Such is life.

VOTE: Bingle

If we're going by your theory, I don't want the follower gone first, but the guy who would be the mastermind.

Frankly we could do the double lynch if we play our cards right but scum wouldn't allow that huh?

[Elsa Jay]

I believe Bambi was scum that game though, and she plays slightly different anyway. More... Aggressive?

And it's not that spicy if you four think you got a towncore out of 7 people. As the assumedly fifth townie, my objective now is to be recognized as such by voting one of the other 2.

[Elsa Jay]

Lynches are compulsory. Plurality protect/lynch will occur if there is no majority by the end of either phase.

Its apart of the ruleset that multiple protects or lynches happen if no majority is had to prevent stalling.

[Elsa Jay]

Well Plurality has the word plural, so excuse me if I disagree with the wording. But if I dealt with that wording in the past I honestly forgot.

If that's the case though then I wont go into a wild "let's lynch 3 people at once" shenaniganry and just lynch Bingle.

[Elsa Jay]

Well I went by basic English dictionary, but the problem is resolved now so we're good.

Back to being the clown role and doing nothing elsa of value.

[Elsa Jay]

Smooth transition, ducky.

[Elsa Jay]

Why me of the remaining 3 though?

[Elsa Jay]

Let me phrase this a little better chem.

I know I'm town. Frankly Pops doing that move is also town, so I accept him as town even if I disagree with it. And Gamma is poisoned. So that leaves me 4 people.

Gamma mentioned You and Bingle being the 2 scum. Worst agreed with was Chem/Myself/Bingle but wants me dead instead. The Penguin agreed it was also the 3 of us.

So 3 people see you as scum, but I'm a cautious fellow, ya know? My hunch also says it could be one of the birds capitalizing on the other bird just doing bird things. So instead of letting Ducky mislynch me, how about we actually discuss this like gentlemen and see why 3 of you said Chem/Bingle, but Ducky chooses me first.

[Elsa Jay]

*elsa

And you know I like living anyway ducky. The fact you think that is scummy of me is fricken weird.

[Elsa Jay]

The Penguin agreed it was also the 3 of us.

With the caveat that duckie could be scum but my radar hasn't gone off yet. Wish I had a vig shot.

Your backtrack is noted and appreciated. But thanks for not following Ducky onto me. That makes reading you separately WAY easier.

[Elsa Jay]

Elsa posting pg8 struck me as really survivalistic/blending in mindset. I'm really surprised no one else is seeing this?

Not only did you say this after I said it jokingly-

Back to being the clown role and doing nothing elsa of value.

You are also completely wrong in me being survivalistic. First post after talking about bird murder is me refusing to be protected. After my power nap I disagreed with the strategy used by the majority. I went into a semantics argument with Penguin about "Plurality". That's not even blending on either. Quite the Fricken opposite.

Please tell me how I'm being survivalistic when instead of lynching myself I try and lynch what 3 people said are scum... And you vote me.

[Elsa Jay]

So you scumread me when I do scummy things, scumread me when I do neutral things, scumread me when I do townie things...

I think you just want me lynched now regardless of my actual actions.

Also, why would I open a dialogue for scum to disagree with? If we lynched Bingle with no fanfare and he flipped scum, the boredom would have made me sad but it's purely in towns favor not to give scum the oppritunity to save themselves if half the town already saw 2 people as the likely scum pair.

Honestly going after me has only opened yourself up to more scrutiny. I guess we can debatably say that's townie, but as someone who's played with me atleast on 5 seperate occasions, you made very crappy arguments that try to make everything I do look bad.

[Elsa Jay]

She is fine and shiz.

And it was the latter in believing you'd think I'd believe that was the right answer. Frankly the protect phase doesn't matter much to me anymore now that I know scum made a list but yeah. Good job on that front, so this is basically a normal game now.

[Elsa Jay]

I remember talking like that when I was starving and tired, and a few people did that while drunk or high.

Say a codeword when your "normal" again.

[Elsa Jay]

Hot take: they always targetted Gamma and friend since it was like the one person there who wouldn't cause too many waves poisoned.

I also genuinely believe lovebird was gonna be the target as well instead but since I came in, scum changed to who they did.

[Elsa Jay]

Its the old addege, my friend.

"Try to mislynch me once, shame on me. Try again, shame on you."

So basically just explain why me instead of Bingle or whatever. Gimme something good to read when I wake up again.

[Elsa Jay]

Meh. Everyone's a critic.

[Elsa Jay]

Leaning towards actually just voting the duck now tbh, since I feel that gives me more information then just the quiet Bingle now.

[Elsa Jay]

UNVOTE:

Yeah I'm bored of arguing now so you do you. As long as it ain't me and it doesn't hurt town, your good.

[Elsa Jay]

Chemist1422 is a distant descendant of Bungle

Where can I find this Bungle?

[Elsa Jay]

VOTE: Chemist

I wanna see if someone actually hammers him.

[Elsa Jay]

If you wanna hammer yourself then be my guest?

That's a weird question to ask.

[Elsa Jay]

And the game paused again. Wonderful.

[Elsa Jay]

VOTE: Bingle

Back to this one again I guess.

[Elsa Jay]

Hey Chem do something either interesting/spicy or funny in your next post.

[Elsa Jay]

VOTE: Chemist

Test failed.

[Elsa Jay]

Be smart with me, get the ice spear through your ghost body.

[Elsa Jay]

Only good things, my fellow Bird! She is a Queen of the finest caliber and should never be scumread at all, as it is beneath her.

[Elsa Jay]

Maybe nona's alignment is unimportant to her tho

this is an interesting statement

at what circumstances could a player's alignment be unimportant to the player?

When they're bored and want the game to be fun again, for one. Or is that just me?

Fuck all the acronyms and buzzwords btw.

that'sa me and my biggest townread
any take on any of the other slots?

i know there isn't much to work with :c

i also support your page 8 elsa vibes

My vibes, huh?

Would you like a vibe check?

[Elsa Jay]

Doesn't mean I can't still dislike them.

[Elsa Jay]

So are we still gonna Murder Nora or do we gotta wait for the Hydras again?

[Elsa Jay]

Fuck the buzzwords is stuff I'd say as filler content as either alignment but okay.

[Elsa Jay]

I dunno. Ask the mod.

[Elsa Jay]

Rude

[Elsa Jay]

As for why Bingle, Pop?

Saw one of the Hydra heads say Bingle. All of you earlier didn't like Bingle. Bingle hasn't vibed with me this game from the little he poster.

I'm not really gonna give Nora a chance to second guess myself later on. Seems pretty stupid to he honest.

VOTE: Nona

[Elsa Jay]

If I get hammered for trying to not make a fool out of myself imma cry.

Scum even put me at L-1.

Why must you he like this.

[Elsa Jay]

So what your saying is you were right the first time when we said it was Chemist/Bingle, but we all got sidetracked on me to determine my alignment first.

Fair enough.

[Elsa Jay]

So what your saying is you were right the first time when we said it was Chemist/Bingle, but we all got sidetracked on me to determine my alignment first.

Fair enough.

I don't think I've ever deviated from it so

y'all

got sidetracked. I'm just here for the memes.

I wanted to stay on topic but the Duck challenged my authority.

[Elsa Jay]

So did I give enough content for an accurate read yet or do you all want me to be more argumentative?

[Elsa Jay]

Fuck you I refuse.

[Elsa Jay]

There's my argumentative side.

[Elsa Jay]

Oh yeah, fun thing to mention that I ignored until now, is Bingle's last post was to vote Pengu. If Nora flips Scum I love what that entails.

[Elsa Jay]

I'm in awe of the size of that Goat Lad. You sure that isn't a horse in disguise.

[Elsa Jay]

So the game begins again.

Lets see here...

VOTE: Elsa Jay

I trust myself, so today we should make sure I'm not poisoned.

[Elsa Jay]

Why not me bro? So you can poison me?

[Elsa Jay]

Yay

[Elsa Jay]

Secretly this is the ultimate scum tactic and the Penguin poisoned himself for the ultimate WIFOM.

[Elsa Jay]

But serious talk now, Pop seems like the other last townie since he also tried to save the game earlier? But chemist wouldn't say he'd crossvote his partner if it's the duck...

Hmm.

Duck/Chemist
Duck/Pops
Chemist/Pops

If Chem was legit in wanting to vote Ducky, then it's Duck/Pops or Chemist/Pops. Either way that makes me want to safe vote Pops first, but obviously I'm waiting fot a second.

[Elsa Jay]

And Humans are above Penguins. Would you listen to an Ant God?

[Elsa Jay]

Still. Your opinion on that thought process would be nice. Obviously for you you got more options from your perspective but still.

[Elsa Jay]

Fine.

Lunchbreak over now again btw. See you in a few hours if anyone posted

[Elsa Jay]

No posts means we got em bois.

Did Scum get to pre-make the phase 2 list by the way?

[Elsa Jay]

Yeah, you'd assume they want the duck there since he was garunteed safe. Unless your trying to hang him in which case... Pop/Chen again.

Frankly I want Pop to talk about their stance

[Elsa Jay]

What do you mean my kill? Whut?

[Elsa Jay]

Oh.

Well again. Framing and shit.

[Elsa Jay]

Also, of everyone alive, Penguin was the person least likely to get lynched. I'd have poisoned him too in that situation.

[Elsa Jay]

How could you poison a fellow bird, worst?

[Elsa Jay]

Ducky be honest. Do you still distrust me?

[Elsa Jay]

Ducky be honest. Do you still distrust me?

i'm trusting you more as this phase is going on.

Okay. That makes sense.

Why should we trust you over Pop or Chemist then?

[Elsa Jay]

Fuck. Math is my weakness and I cant understand Pop. But they also said via math they have the highest Scum Equity? The Fuck?

[Elsa Jay]

EJ - 40%
worst - 53.3%*
pops - 53.3%
Chemist - 53.3%

worst still has reduced probability from yesterday, I think. Like the event didn't not happen. But I'm not sure how you math it in

If I only get one question, this post is the weirdest? With Pengu being poisoned and not scum, with 5 people left... And you yourself know your not scum, your already at a 1/3 chance from the rest of us, right?

Like... I really gotta know if your not taking into account knowing your town here or something.

[Elsa Jay]

Just do it from your point of view and from my point of view. The Duck and the ghost are irrelevant.

[Elsa Jay]

Just tell me why you think I'm less likely to be scum, and/or how a pairing of the Ghost and Duck makes sense

[Elsa Jay]

G-h-o-s-t, not Goat.

[Elsa Jay]

So is it duckpops?

[Elsa Jay]

Well yeah frankly I see us lynching Chemist, me being poisoned day 3, and losing the game on a mislynch. So uh.... Please make yourself as townie as possible, third townie.

[Elsa Jay]

I still think it's you worst but I don't feel like giving the game to Pops if she literally tried to lynch her partner, but you got hung instead.

[Elsa Jay]

Pengu vote someone already so I don't have to take responsibility if we lose.

[Elsa Jay]

"I've been scumreading elsa the entire time, so when Elsa did the scummy thing and tried to protect herself, I hammered her so the penguin couldn't get the protect because reasons." - The Worst

[Elsa Jay]

How come every time you misread me THIS happens
(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻

Yeah, you capitalized on me and Pengu fucking up and quickhammered so we wouldn't realize we should protect Pengu instead.

[Elsa Jay]

Okay that part was me accidentally quoting that, but the table flip describes how I feel about the situation now, lol.

[Elsa Jay]

Pengu vote someone already so I don't have to take responsibility if we lose.

That's not how this is going to work. I'm still trying to figure out how to minimize my responsibility.

Pay the child support.

Also, when in doubt it seems like Chemist is still gonna be the lynch today if we're not certain on Pop or Worst. If your a douche about it you lynch Chemist and give me no advice.

Pedit: Nobody doubted the Penguins alignment. We only started to doubt yours.

[Elsa Jay]

i was starting to very much doubt the penguin's alignment elsa.

Well as scum its your job to cast doubt and stuff, but I meant from townies.

[Elsa Jay]

Well do that by the time I wake up again, plz.

[Elsa Jay]

Trust you more then the duck at this point, I'll give you that.

[Elsa Jay]

Well if you do vote him and he votes you back, it really woUlf make this easier.

The indesicion is killing me.

[Elsa Jay]

Since they didn't vote each other despite saying they would? Pretty sure. I just need the Penguin to make a move and I'm ending it though.

[Elsa Jay]

Then be more townie then Pops and we wouldn't be having this problem.

[Elsa Jay]

Explain what your town telling, for one. Speak like you arent speaking to a fellow bird.

[Elsa Jay]

I also may or may not still be holding the grudge from earlier when you tried to lynch me day 1.

[Elsa Jay]

This could still be another gambit for me to think it's Worst, but if Chemist legit hasnt read, maybe he just gave away his partner is either me or Pops?

[Elsa Jay]

On one hand, I don't want to give the birds the satisfaction of literally just being masons to each other and winning because of it.

On the other hand: I want to win.

Desicions, desicions...

[Elsa Jay]

Unlike the duck, your literally named a bird. One cannot throw away a name so easily.

But do you take responsibility if it's Chemist/Worst instead and you fucked us?

[Elsa Jay]

I'm not the one going on vacation. Vote now or forever hold your breathe.

[Elsa Jay]

VOTE: Elsa

I self vote to protest this accusation.

[Elsa Jay]

VOTE: Chemist

But Fine, there you go.

[Elsa Jay]

Fuck, it was Worst and Pops.

FML I knew I shouldn't have trusted the duck.

[Elsa Jay]

Don't do theatre, duck, you and Pops won.

[Elsa Jay]

Bro you go "watch pops not hammer this" and she literally does it 10 seconds later, what do you mean it's me?

[Elsa Jay]

You said you were gonna vote Chem, I just sped it up.

[Elsa Jay]

Well I pressured him to death. It was very effective.

[Elsa Jay]

Fuck that, I'm eating the goat.

[Elsa Jay]

Remember when I said pops was scum?

Pepperidge Farms remembers.

Well, where did you say such a thing?

[Elsa Jay]

Sigh.

You didn't win. Chemist just lost.

[Elsa Jay]

I knew I should have voted the duck, but Pengu said he was gonna vote Chemist and I was bored and Chemist wasn't doing anything.

When I'm bored I kill townies easier. It's an unfortunate condition.

[Elsa Jay]

A little. Chemist made the ending boring.

[Elsa Jay]

If you use math again in the future pops you shall be slain. That's all I learned this game.

[Elsa Jay]

Math is for scum.