Open 796: Haunted Village Game Over

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ego.

-tisi

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exorcists pings as town.

random canadian does not.

VOTE: random canadian

-tisi

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What do you mean?

-Lance

this @ me? i'm

making a pun about our username

egoing the thread.

-tisi

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What does egoing the thread mean?

posting a post in a thread for the first time, making it show up in your egosearch ("view your posts"). neat stuff.

-tisi

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my two cents on ~setup specc~, anything going further than the obvious "scum picked [role] so town probably has [the role that is a counterplay to]" is risking slips which are imo more likely to happen to PRs than to scum so let's not

Taylor-town does not give impression of trying. Taylor appears to be trying here. Ergo, Taylor scum.

which taylor posts up until here gave you an impression that she's "trying"? or like, what do you mean by trying here?

This is odd but I actually have 0 clue on who scum could be, and I think taylor vs BM was NAI. I have some weak townreads though.

i found this a bit surprising, at this point i was feeling like i had like one and a half weak townread (exorcists and maaaybe murdercat) with a whole buncha people either being null or south of null (RanCan for stuff, BM with the questionable push, and xof/norwee feeling active-lurky)

can you share your townreads?

also i got the same feeling on the tone from xofelf!

VOTE: Random Canadian

?

-tisi

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+1 to please don't call random canadian rc

I saw there were many hydras and that sounds funsies
so I came

you're probably the first person i heard say that (other) hydras sound fun
also hi noraa!!

well im used to RC having decent takes and effort.

also i like the people on the RC wagon.

where does this come from?

hmm this RC wagon is koving kinda fast
i think there could be scum on it

ok, is there any more to this? where / who do you think is the likely scum on the wagon and why?

-tisi

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youre asking where my townread on those two comes from?

yee. more precisely i'm asking why you're townreading my slot, i'm assuming i get why you're townreading exorcists.

[egotisi]

btw, if you highlight a part of the post, then click quote, only the highlighted part gets quoted. (pls stop quoting wallposts to answer one line from them k thx)

-tisi

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ee. m

neat. my townread on exorcists is for sure stronger. its largely gut on you, but youre being nice and aggressive and it feels like towntisi to me. calling me out on it feels even more towntisi. am i wrong?

you are not wrong. though i'm wondering where you're getting that meta from if you were considering my play so far to be aggressive? (if you can.)

also for some reason i was thinking you were gonna scumread me for ignoring your earlier shitpost directed at me

-tisi

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oh no, everyone is spamming, i'll fall behind in postcount with my wallposts D:
maybe i'll stop later i'll see

i can already tell this game is going to be hard work.

that's cool, do you mind answering/elaborating on top of 146?

you say u dont want to spectate then continue to spectate

Are you calling him scummy?

Isis are you town? I feel like your tone is a bit different this game but I really need you to sort Noraa for me

is there history between you/isis/noraa? and talk about your tonal read on isis?

With regard to 146 and 173, why are we being townread?
—Alice

tone + interest in solving the game that didn't feel fake/forced

i like isis for town atm, 211 is what i was thinking at the time

@cobra kai, do you mind getting an avatar? i'm gonna keep mixing up you and BM otherwise, and i don't think i can talk him into getting one

@plus i was going somewhere with bottom of 183, can you pls answer

why would ignoring a shitpost be AI? its lame but its not AI.

i like getting townread and worry about the dumbest shit

my mind is an enigma

bottom of pg 10, gonna grab breakfast, be back in a bit

-tisi

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i think we've already learnt quite a lot. an unusually high number of people defending taylor without grounds.

who is actually defending taylor here? like is "not instavoting taylor the second BM asks for it" = "defending taylor"?

murdercat climbing up my reads with 268/269

hmm
isis, why are 279/280 towny to you? like they read like null-to-maaaaybe-nullscum posts to me

i found this a bit surprising, at this point i was feeling like i had like one and a half weak townread (exorcists and maaaybe murdercat) with a whole buncha people either being null or south of null (RanCan for stuff, BM with the questionable push, and xof/norwee feeling active-lurky)

Can you explain what you mean by active-lurky?

active lurking is like, posting meaningless post to appear to be contributing
both your and xof's posts neatly fit into that
like up to that point you were what, making an excuse why you won't post much because logging in is difficult, voting the mod, and joking about clint eastwood

is that all you wanna say after 7 pages? do you have any reads?

-tisi

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VOTE: xofelf

The fact that so many people are throwing shade here when I am totally null on them makes me suspicious. Sorry tayl0r, come vote here now let's see what happens.

This is feels like a non-reason(?) for a vote. You find them suspicious because other people find them suspicious? Do you have any other reasons for finding them scummy?

Also:

VOTE: RandomCanadian

I am going to very blatantly hop on this wagon because [reasons to be revealed later]

UNVOTE: by the way, served it's purpose

The idea was that there is likely scum on the wagon, just because it's easier to get 5 votes from 13 players than 10. If you remember from Noir, you had an early wagon on you that involved a vote from PP. I think that scum often takes the opportunity to distance with an early wagon, so I had a theory that Random Canadian might be scum getting hit by that distance vote (also I saw that Random Canadian had logged on but not posted in this thread, which seemed a little off to me considering how early into the game we were). Either way I was curious how votes would react as the wagon accelerated. It's probably not super useful right now but I think it will be nice to look back on after we get some flips. I did hate Isis's vote to leave the wagon but she did the exact same thing in Noir (and I hated it there too ). I'm not sure what to make of your unvote and revote.

Murdercat's progression on this feels off. You give no explanation for it, the wagon deflates after you voted, then you unvote and say it's for a test and it valuable after flips.

Why did you unvote rather than change to a different wagon? I know this may sound menial, but usually unvoting is a reaction to a post or something someone said.

Spoiler:

Also i've been packing to move and i haven't been able to post until now hi everyone

-ego

[egotisi]

[edit from the future] alright, so i sat down to read this game. it took me an hour to go through 4 pages. it's past 1am and my brain is not working. mr bailey promised to get to this game after work, i'll get to it when i'm not deceased first thing in the morning. ok cool. thanks. [/edit]

Immediately paranoid of Noraa.

- Norwee

norwee do you have reads

re 334: the reason i asked is because the "there could be scum on this wagon i guess lol bc wagon fast" in very early stages of the game with nothing else pointing at is like. weaksauce and p easy to post as scum, especially if you don't say who and like, do nothing about your "read" there

though at this point i'm thinking i was mentally overreacting about my read about that situation

@egotisi, it’s been a while since you voted, and after expressing suspicion on Murdercat, you didn’t vote him. Is he your strongest scumread? Where are you at the moment?

george wanted to talk to me first, but then we never ended up talking about it
i'm in a vc with him atm, he says the unvote seemed lamist, but the response was fine

right now i'm at trying to read the thread but my eyes are glazing over as it's already past midnight

[consider this a

prodge

preview of an actual post? idk. i was awake until 5:30am yesterday. i'm feeling dead.]

-tisi

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@Narwhal what do you think of Plus right now?

Other than Isis right now, Plus is the other person I'm leaning scum on right now. Admittedly, he has said that he tried playing differently because he often gets mislimmed, which is part of why I am looking at Isis and have my vote there. I have mislimmed Plus in the past as town, but some of his posts in this game give me a feel that he has thought about them more and have scum drive behind them.

i dislike this post. plus is a growing wagon here, while at the time pretty much nobody is looking into isis, and i think a post like this is like, a good foundation and/or springboard for jumping onto plus's wagon later while still seeming like they were ~doing things~ by ~having a vote elsewhere~

also my hot take is that plus is probably Just Town? if someone makes a(n actual) solid case i'll look into it, but like, his readslist for this stage of the game seems fine? (i swear i'm not saying this just because i'm on top of it lmao) and what i found interesting is that later on when asked to talk more about his read somewhere, he refused. this pings me as town since i think scum!plus would be trying to do what he's asked of and keep explaining his reads, as opposed to just being like "no"

[edit] i might have misunderstood 549 earlier when fast-skimming ahead, i thought it was just the second point. still think plus is town tho. [/edit]

so as i was reading, i opened noraa's iso, and i was kinda surprised to see 135 posts, then i realized i was mentally skipping over the vast majority of them because i'm having trouble there, and i'll probably proxy this read to george

That is a terrible way to think. I get frustrated/upset as town far more often AND I only get upset as scum when I'm getting tunneled or under pressure.

*snip* say no more. self meta is not valuable

i also feel like i should be able to say something about this pair of quotes but honestly i don't think i can in good faith say it's scummy

I also think Noraa seems more likely to happen so if nothing else it'll save my behind.

Hold up I missed this earlier.
People think this is towny?
Take a good look at this sentence.

reads like these are like... very bad. it's pushing the level-zero thinking of "hurr durr only scum wants to survive" which i really don't understand where that ~myth~ came from? especially as someone whose first goal is "don't get executed" regardless of the colour of my role PM, reads like these make me genuinely annoyed

and my further Hot Take that a blatant post like "i'm voting there to save myself" is more likely to come from town

-tisi

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I'd find Jewel Barons a little scummy for being sideliney if I ignored the PT thing, but I agree with Dunnstral about that being a strong push town and that matters more.

I don't understand what you're agreeing with me on

oh cool, so i wasn't blind when i couldn't find whatever 483 was referring to

It’s not badass to spam the thread. It is the be a man of few words, because those words get listened to.

Cobra Kai never dies.

You understand you could ask me questions if you want my thoughts instead of just voting in the hopes I feel even remotely pressured by you keep waving your finger at me for not playing how you want, correct?

Not sure on scumreads. Was planning to reread at some point. Nothing is standing out as overtly scummy- I don’t particularly understand why joyed or Noraa are the leading wagons presently. Feels TvT.

cobra kai is like, either cocky scum or town and i thiiiiink i'm leaning town?
i think this read would hold more water if he was a newer player, though i think i'm gonna hold onto it at least until there's elaboration on this part of 572

I rescind my earlier thoughts, I no longer think this is TvT.

If you look at +joyed’s iso noraa is the only scumread he won’t explain and he’s said multiple times why he can’t. This hyberbolic explanation shows Noraa cares more about eliminating him than trying to understand and read him.

He had explained scumreads on multiple others.

welp nevermind lmao
though i'm digging this read and still looking forward to a reread

BM is annoying me because he seems to still be scumreading taylor hard (who i'm currently leaning town on too), but also seems alergic to actually explaining/presenting that read
maybe i'm just throwing a fit at continuously being ignored when asking about it
who knows
also i'm leaning town on isis as well so that might be a factor too
time will tell

I’m really tempted to vote Noraa here but I’m not sure if it’s scum being intentionally obstinate or town.

i feel this on a spiritual level lmao

i'm voting there to save myself

VOTE: noraa

thats where im voting to save myself btw

taylor locktown (/s)

-tisi

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anyway. lemme skim some iso's.

i originally voted for canadian because posts like 10 and 18 were giving me a distinct gut-scummy vibe of "i am posting things to appear active and/or helpful while not actually doing anything" (which was a mistake i made in a scumgame semi-recently which stuck to me) and i wanted to see if that would continue. it did not. i've already said why i disliked 478. the read on isis is, in a vacuum, *fine*. the rest of it is like, meh. i wanna see what he brings out once he returns.

xof i still think could be the easy and correct answer for scum, but my other head is telling me they're low-hanging-fruit. i think i'm interested in their read on gamma though, seems like there's meta there.

i've already spoken a bit about jewels in 146/316 and like... norwee is giving me the same vibes he did when i was playing scum against him. like, the closest he has to a read is 394, which like. it's bad. granted, i don't know how to read gamma, but nothing he's done or posted so far is like, jumping out at me or saying ~town~, so.

my current hot take: VOTE: jewel barons

-tisi

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@Datisi- I’m experienced. I’m townreading you because I’ve seen you play scum, frankly.

ouch.

it's fine lmao, i'm (un)fortunately aware of my skills (or lack thereof)

-tisi

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I posted a case on BM. Can people please either engage with it or make a new case?

Uh yeah, one thing that really struck out was

593 feels like a sheep of Isis and to be honest I don't see it

I like BM's recent posts

What made you change your mind here?

Also, having too many scum reads isn't a case for being scum. Having too many null reads is the shitty fence-sitting position.

-ego

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Do you think it's likely that Murdercat ISO'd me, and decided he'd quite like to have someone to target to look like he was scumhunting and just tried to construe everything I did as being scummy, when in fact it wasn't?

I think Murdercat is taking posts out of thread context. His answer to *liking* BMs post and then scumreading him is intriguing. Posts in ISO context read very different, and BM's progression on Taylor feels a lot more natural than he cased. I think his post came from a mindset of scumreading first, and then casing second.

VOTE: Murdercat

-ego

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Why does taking posts out of context mean it’s scummy here? ISOing someone, by its nature, removes the posts from context.

Because it changes the meaning? Scum wants to twist words and make someone easier to attack. Murder took posts that were pages apart and cased them as an overall progression on someone.

Like, he called BM shading us inconsistent with the Taylor read, when it had nothing to do with it.

-ego

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The point was that BM said to flip you despite the strong read on taylor

But BM had multiple scumreads. He confirmed us as "lockscum" after Datisi posted. It's just a really weird push that you stopped after it gained no traction.

Not saying that’s what happened, but it’s a possibility you don’t seem to consider.

???? Like yeah town can do scummy things. That can be an excuse for literally anything scummy. Do you know Murder's meta?

-ego

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ah shit 2 days left, i gotta actually do things
i'll be around for a bit, someone said they want to interact with me i think

on a quick skim, spicy hot take: currently leading wagons are t/t (read: noraa is town)

-tisi

pedit: lol this will be interesting

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anyway this caught my eye:

so you have scum!noraa right. and she sees that (1) a lot of people are scumreading her, meaning there's a decent chance she flips today, and (2) that people are jumping on the hot new lol-lurker egotisi wagon. does she:

a) start at least throwing shade at egotisi, bullshit a scumread there, so that she can jump on her counterwagon at some point without looking horrible
b) shoots herself in the foot??? by making these posts???

why the datisi slot?
I've had no problem with that slot so far and I think most of what that slot says is reasonable

I personally find all three hydras pretty towny so idk what to think there but those are all town leans that are subject to change.

b.1) further shoots herself in the foot by reaffirming the infinity vote (1174) that is probably not going anywhere?? while our wagon is rapidly growing???

-tisi

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In these early quote walls,

there are a lot of questions which aren't always followed up on. If they are, they don't lead to a real read.

They also often point out things that other people already brought up (e.g. the PR spec thing and murder's unvote potentially being scummy). The scumread on jewel,

besides being very hedgy

, feels like a way to say "look I have my own opinions" while voting someone who isn't the most active and won't be defended by many people.

(1) yeah. that's how i play. not every question has a direct purpose. some are just to see if the answer Inspires me. if it doesn't, then tough luck.
(2) not sure what you mean by hedgy here? like i think i've been scumleaning/reading jewel barons pretty consistently?

-tisi

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also another thing i think pointing to town!noraa is that there's like... scummy slots that seem to not really care which one goes through

VOTE: egotisi
While I'm a bit skeptical of Infinity's motives currently, I also think we've kinda been stuck talking about a few slots and a wagon here shakes that up a bit.

-GAMMA

this weak asf vote BeCaUsE WaGoN even tho he's kinda skeptical of our main pusher?

I will say it's a bit funky Noraa was looking for a compromise that early, but wagons are wagons, I had a 5 vote wagon form on me on the first couple pages of a 13p mini normal once, and iirc it generated some interesting data, though probably not accurately interpreted data.

-GAMMA

and in his next post, literally 2 whole minutes later, he's throwing shade at noraa

@inifinity, i think i saw you say that your preferred votes are us and noraa, right? can you tldr me why you suspect noraa or link it or something?

-tisi

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“granted, idk how to read gamma, but nothing he’s done is particularly town”

"i''m scumreading norwee and the other head isn't doing anything town" doesn't really read as a hedge to me but i might be biased who knows lel

-tisi

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some other things that were asked of me earlier

So you're basing it just on me not having reads and saying that's my scum meta? Cus i was really just planing to derp around while Gamma did most of the posting.

(idk the point of replying to this but)
my idea is that town doesn't have to force themselves to have reads because it comes to them naturally
and i know scum!norwee does *not* get reads naturally
so the "hihi i was just gonna derp around" feels like a scum excuse more than anything

I did not like the Jewel vote at the end of egotisi's catch-up posts. I noticed the foreshadowing, but they haven't taken into account the modspew and this just feels like a wrong vote. Maybe also because I agree with a lot of their other reads, I don't feel this one is very plausible.

this is correct, i am absolutely not taking modspew into account. first, because i always try to not take things like that into account. second, because it doesn't actually spew anything, other than that the hydra doesn't have

their own

PT? like some mods set up hydra PTs immediately, some don't. i don't see how "oh, people are talking about hydras not having hydra PTs, better make sure they know i'll make a hydra PT if needed" implies their slot is town? like if we had just one hydra in game, i can see it if i squint. but we have three.

-tisi

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I'm going to switch to VOTE: egotisi, because I don't think either head has responded to me and that could very well be GeorgeBailey still horrified of my history catching him and consciously or subconsciously not wanting to keep me on the agenda.

you asked me something?

isis iso ctrl+f ego it is

oh cool, so i wasn't blind when i couldn't find whatever 483 was referring to

439. You don't seem to care about the dynamic, since you vote Gem Barons in this post. Did you disagree with Dunnstral's take, or do you think the slot is so so scummy you'd acknowledge it and think it needs to be the very first lim of the day? I think it's worth at least day 1 pass in a setup where hitting scum day 1 is really good because it's always a scum PR, even if it's not something you could bring to eLo and say keeps the slot out of PoE.

see 1354. i disagree with the take.

If I had two votes I'd vote Noraa because her posting is making me nauseous again. Mis-stating whether her main points of interest started on her initiative or someone else's seems like the scum-indicative type of error (our earliest interactions in the game started with her saying she wanted to OMGUS me, so..).

the next sentence is once again expressing the willingness to vote noraa too. cool.

-tisi

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If people wanna push on egotisi, that's their business. I have absolutely no read on the slot whatsoever. They're not contributing anything one way or another, but at least it's not actively bad. I know I haven't been doing all that much either, but I'm trying as best I can.

like this is exactly the reaction i'd have been expecting from scum!noraa
the weird non-read while obviously being open to jump onto the wagon
which is again making me suspect scum!xof

i think exorcists did the same "i'd vote either" on this page that i was calling people for out earlier but i remember townreading this slot pretty strongly so meh

-tisi

[egotisi]

Spoiler: egoposts

i think we've already learnt quite a lot. an unusually high number of people defending taylor without grounds.

who is actually defending taylor here? like is "not instavoting taylor the second BM asks for it" = "defending taylor"?

murdercat climbing up my reads with 268/269

hmm
isis, why are 279/280 towny to you? like they read like null-to-maaaaybe-nullscum posts to me

i found this a bit surprising, at this point i was feeling like i had like one and a half weak townread (exorcists and maaaybe murdercat) with a whole buncha people either being null or south of null (RanCan for stuff, BM with the questionable push, and xof/norwee feeling active-lurky)

Can you explain what you mean by active-lurky?

active lurking is like, posting meaningless post to appear to be contributing
both your and xof's posts neatly fit into that
like up to that point you were what, making an excuse why you won't post much because logging in is difficult, voting the mod, and joking about clint eastwood

is that all you wanna say after 7 pages? do you have any reads?

-tisi

VOTE: xofelf

The fact that so many people are throwing shade here when I am totally null on them makes me suspicious. Sorry tayl0r, come vote here now let's see what happens.

This is feels like a non-reason(?) for a vote. You find them suspicious because other people find them suspicious? Do you have any other reasons for finding them scummy?

Also:

VOTE: RandomCanadian

I am going to very blatantly hop on this wagon because [reasons to be revealed later]

UNVOTE: by the way, served it's purpose

The idea was that there is likely scum on the wagon, just because it's easier to get 5 votes from 13 players than 10. If you remember from Noir, you had an early wagon on you that involved a vote from PP. I think that scum often takes the opportunity to distance with an early wagon, so I had a theory that Random Canadian might be scum getting hit by that distance vote (also I saw that Random Canadian had logged on but not posted in this thread, which seemed a little off to me considering how early into the game we were). Either way I was curious how votes would react as the wagon accelerated. It's probably not super useful right now but I think it will be nice to look back on after we get some flips. I did hate Isis's vote to leave the wagon but she did the exact same thing in Noir (and I hated it there too ). I'm not sure what to make of your unvote and revote.

Murdercat's progression on this feels off. You give no explanation for it, the wagon deflates after you voted, then you unvote and say it's for a test and it valuable after flips.

Why did you unvote rather than change to a different wagon? I know this may sound menial, but usually unvoting is a reaction to a post or something someone said.

-ego

Just gunna point some stuff out as I see it. These posts directly contradict, but are from different heads. I'm not really sure what to make of that, is that just something that happens? Makes me feel like they were not discussing in PT, but I'm not sure why scum wouldn't be aligned in who they are pushing? But maybe it's not that important for scum to be aligned with a push early? I don't have a strong AI read on this but I am curious if anyone makes anything from it.

the pedantic part of me wants to point out that they don't *directly* contradict, we're town/scumreading you for different posts
the normal part of me wants to say that we haven't tried to come to agreement for our conflicting reads yet (mainly you/xof) (because most of our discord right now is "go post" "no you")
as for if it's ai, /shrug, i know what i'd say

I think it’s probably more likely to come from town, since scum would probably be more careful about checking with their hydra partner to make sure they didn’t mess up. Not super AI though imo.

gut makes me feel like this is one of those scumposts where it's like, pushing a misexe, saying something is town-indicative to add ~nuance~ but not in a way that actually makes anyone stop scumreading the target

Spoiler: killerkitty posts

Honestly there is .. not much there? I don't know reading through the iso I think I didn't give it enough credit I think there is real game solving going on. Gunna go look at the case against ego

I'm going to switch to VOTE: egotisi, because I don't think either head has responded to me and that could very well be GeorgeBailey still horrified of my history catching him and consciously or subconsciously not wanting to keep me on the agenda.

Weak vote

I’m honestly really happy with the direction we’re going in.

VOTE: egotisi

Weak vote

VOTE: egotisi
While I'm a bit skeptical of Infinity's motives currently, I also think we've kinda been stuck talking about a few slots and a wagon here shakes that up a bit.

-GAMMA

Weak vote. What are we actually doing here?

Talk to me about ego infinity because I'm not seeing it. On to Tayl0r

murder are you pocketing me?

-tisi

[egotisi]

I’m not a fan of how MCat approached the egotisi wagon

i wanna hear about this

murder are you pocketing me?

Do you think infinity and me are ever scum together (asking because it feels like you are pointing at both of us here)

I pay a lot of attention to how wagons are formed and at first I thought the wagon on you was good as you hadn't really see much heat. But actually looking at the votes it didn't look very strong to me

i wasn't trying to point at both of you. to me it looked like your posts are more genuine defense of our slot, which is why my thought was "if murder is scum, this is a pocket" rather than "if murder is scum, this is a weak ass defense that doesn't do anything"

i didn't see any neon signs that say "never ever s/s" but right now i'd bet on not s/s, especially since me myself am not scumreading you

also i thought the ":(" at the end would be indication that i wasn't fully serious about accusing you of pocketing me but sorry if it didn't come across right

Tisi, thoughts on isis?

i remember being town on her before (which feels like a long time ago considering i put this game on the back-burner for a bit) but i'm not a fan of the willingness to vote either wagon

i wanna see her come back and give updated thoughts on my slot at least

-tisi

[egotisi]

VOTE: xofelf

-tisi

[egotisi]

did nobody claim yet? we have 2 people at L-1!

no, we have one person at L-1, and nobody has been given intent yet, sooooo

-tisi

[egotisi]

mister battle mage, may i interest you in some thoughts (1346) on why noraa might be aligned with the town?

-tisi

[egotisi]

I'm not totally opposed to a noraa flip since it'll convince me of scum X if Noraa flips town. I'm down to switch if we can get votes for X; I just think it'll be harder and we're on a timer

we are on a timer of two days, not two hours, no?

@bm, you said you scumread xof too, right? why noraa>xof for you?

-tisi

[egotisi]

i think the problem is at this stage, noraa-town is just going to pointlessly tunnel me anyway, so we may as well get it over with.

policy?

-tisi

[egotisi]

We won't be losing anything important in the process. I'm not a PR

...

can we kill xof now?

-tisi

[egotisi]

i already think xofelf has decent scum equity, and they just claimed vt. either they're scum trying to wifom us or they're a scummy vt. and considering how power-heavy the scumteam is, hiding our PRs is important. no need to be getting another claim.

-tisi

[egotisi]

VOTE: egotisi



-tisi

[egotisi]

If you unvote before the day ends I think it reverses

-ego

No, I don’t believe it does. If there’s been a hammer, the day ends. I will check with Brass just in case but not in any games I’ve been in, was that the case.

~Nancy