I like meta on D1 as a tool to form early reads and also it can be a good way to get reactions out of others. Something to talk about.In post 113, xofelf wrote:I might be alone in thinking that meta is largely useless, especially if you have enough awareness in your own trends to purposefully use it to confuse people, but I am finding the comments on it so far interesting.
no way they're both scum that's for sureIn post 116, PlusJOYED wrote:This is odd but I actually have 0 clue on who scum could be, and I think taylor vs BM was NAI. I have some weak townreads though.
i like how plus is going back and finding this stuff, looks townie. also i got the same feeling on the tone from xofelf!In post 120, PlusJOYED wrote:ya i think it doesn't mean anything @bm
hold up, upon iso checking, I think there is something I missed first read
-RC voting and defending himself then leaving is a tiny bit weird, could be nothing
-xoltelf is rather sus. specifically, the fact that they joined in like 2008 and pull a newbiecard, claiming they're rusty and they've never considered option B for meta, and seem very open minded. I don't expect people to be mafia gods just cause of an early join date but I do expect them to know what they're doing and their uncertain tone feels very fake to me.
VOTE: xoltelf
i don't like it either. it's like he's going for something that's safe to push even though from what i checked he's played with her a bunch and he should know messin around from her isn't a reason to think she's scum or whatever
Why? I am leaning that way but don't feel comfortable concluding that at the moment.In post 128, Exorcists wrote:no way they're both scum that's for sure
it's kind of modspewedIn post 129, MURDERCAT wrote:Why? I am leaning that way but don't feel comfortable concluding that at the moment.In post 128, Exorcists wrote:no way they're both scum that's for sure
how's that worked out for you in your other games with her?
really?In post 119, xofelf wrote:Could just be dumb instead of scum. I don't underestimate people's abilities to just be bad.
I do think I need more time to have any sort of reads on anybody, but I do think I at least like where BM's head is at. Reminds me of a handful of other players that I've had good feelings about in the few games I've played this year.
Also hi Gamma <3
BM should know me well enough at this point to know for a fact that shitposting is NAI for me. yet BM is trying to spin it as me being scum.In post 124, MURDERCAT wrote:Yeah I guess what I am saying is that I am specifically trying not to meta just based off of that one data point just because it is particularly salient. But yes I am noticing the parallel that you are seeing. I am also slightly worried that you might attempt to use that parallel as scum to make town taylor look bad, if I'm being perfectly honest. Not saying that's how I'm reading it, but that's why I'm being careful.In post 110, Battle Mage wrote:that's interesting on 2 counts.
Firstly, I thought you would have some opinion about the parallel with Noir Mafia situation, and be willing to share it, as you had recognised it too. I had an expectation of what your opinion might be, but am more surprised you didn't share one. Although I appreciate the need for balanced meta, that doesn't preclude you reflecting on whether 2 situations/behaviours are comparable.
Secondly, I struggle to see what you're getting at with the probability thing. Isn't that the same with any 2 random players? And if you aren't reading much into the interaction, why even bother picking me and Taylor? Getting a slightly weird vibe here that you're starting with the presumption of at least 1 of us being scum, which wouldn't accord.
And yes, it is true that it works for any two players but you two had a very pointed interaction, that's why it makes sense to start there. So I'm not currently getting much out of it, but I might if I look at some meta and I'm going to be watching how you two continue to interact in the early game going forward. It's not an assumption that one of you is scum, just a starting point.
lets just say that no one has caught me as scum with that "tell" because it isnt a tell. i just like to have a bit of fun and live on the edge.
well what will you make of it when BM is applying the same pressure to me on day 3?In post 137, MURDERCAT wrote:I do feel like BM's analysis is a little simplistic, but it is only page 6. It could also be pressure for the sake of pressure rather than a true strong scum read.
I'm not sure what you are getting at but obviously if BM has nothing more than your shitposts on page 1 to go off of and is still pushing you for it on D2 he won't make it to D3.In post 139, Tayl0r Swift wrote:well what will you make of it when BM is applying the same pressure to me on day 3?
In post 97, brassherald wrote:In post 94, Tayl0r Swift wrote:i mean... BM immediately jumped down my throat, even putting an RVS vote on me and then pushing me as scum and telling people to ignore me. its not shocking. i can play on given that. but i do have to defend myself, and i was asked a direct question about my feelings about BM. if thats an issue i dont mind being replaced. but its not such an issue for me that i cant be civil.Then, drop it. Everything you spoke about can be addressed with posting about in game factors.
do you think you do it more of the time town or scum?In post 138, Tayl0r Swift wrote:lets just say that no one has caught me as scum with that "tell" because it isnt a tell. i just like to have a bit of fun and live on the edge.
In post 142, Exorcists wrote:personally i think nancy drew is a lovely person and i love her
-mayuri
I meta'd BM and feel less weird about this nowIn post 137, MURDERCAT wrote:I do feel like BM's analysis is a little simplistic, but it is only page 6. It could also be pressure for the sake of pressure rather than a true strong scum read.
which taylor posts up until here gave you an impression that she's "trying"? or like, what do you mean by trying here?In post 55, Battle Mage wrote:Taylor-town does not give impression of trying. Taylor appears to be trying here. Ergo, Taylor scum.
i found this a bit surprising, at this point i was feeling like i had like one and a half weak townread (exorcists and maaaybe murdercat) with a whole buncha people either being null or south of null (RanCan for stuff, BM with the questionable push, and xof/norwee feeling active-lurky)In post 116, PlusJOYED wrote:This is odd but I actually have 0 clue on who scum could be, and I think taylor vs BM was NAI. I have some weak townreads though.
?In post 128, Exorcists wrote:also i got the same feeling on the tone from xofelf!
VOTE: Random Canadian
this game im gonna try something different and not be open about all of my townreads since andres said that was a bad idea my last game, and I think not sharing townreads makes you less prone to being manipulated. I will share any of my SR's thoughIn post 146, egotisi wrote:my two cents on ~setup specc~, anything going further than the obvious "scum picked [role] so town probably has [the role that is a counterplay to]" is risking slips which are imo more likely to happen to PRs than to scum so let's not
which taylor posts up until here gave you an impression that she's "trying"? or like, what do you mean by trying here?In post 55, Battle Mage wrote:Taylor-town does not give impression of trying. Taylor appears to be trying here. Ergo, Taylor scum.
i found this a bit surprising, at this point i was feeling like i had like one and a half weak townread (exorcists and maaaybe murdercat) with a whole buncha people either being null or south of null (RanCan for stuff, BM with the questionable push, and xof/norwee feeling active-lurky)In post 116, PlusJOYED wrote:This is odd but I actually have 0 clue on who scum could be, and I think taylor vs BM was NAI. I have some weak townreads though.
can you share your townreads?
?In post 128, Exorcists wrote:also i got the same feeling on the tone from xofelf!
VOTE: Random Canadian
-tisi
i trust lance over myself. my vote would be battle mage maybe but we haven't talked about it yetIn post 146, egotisi wrote:?
