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really have a hard time seeing the point in this question shelly welly. I am town but scum me would def be saying I am town here as well so.....
also Taylor and I skimmed the thread a teeny tiny bit and we both agree that Johnny is really fishy. Was mostly Taylor tho so she should come explain instead of me.
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Also, someone break down the game state into like a paragraph or something for me please, thanks I'm not reading 40 pages
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hi im here. i read a little bit of the first few pages. got townpings from shelly and yessiree for mechtalk, but mini seemed sketchy in the conversation. shelly and yessiree seemed genuine and pushing pro-town agendas, while mini seemed to be pushing something that sounded good and would make scum's lives easier. i dont know what you went with but it seems that town should busdrive in the scum to town range to fuck with the night kill and cop should check in the nulls to minimize odds of getting busdriven.
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hmm ok. are there key points in the game i/we should read to get a grasp on things? what are we being scumread for? why those solves?
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i read it a few hours ago while we were deciding whether to rep in. so it is a bit vague. but i wrote that down. im not good at reading into mech tbh. but it seemed like you went out of your way to suggest a plan that made it more difficult for scum to act, and MV pushed against it. yess could have gone with MV to make their life easier, but instead supported your plan. to me that indicates town.In post 1042, shellyc wrote:why do you think im pushing a protown agenda along with yesiree? who flipped btw
1039 seems a very vague post
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this is a lie. I saw a game a while back where Jacko had 1000+ posts and won the game as scumIn post 1041, shellyc wrote:scum!JV is a lot more conservative and less high energy
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without having read the thread i dont see how we can hypoclaim without full claiming. give us some time to read up?
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that would be an interesting change from the norm.In post 1049, shellyc wrote:I'm obvtown
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who pushed the wagon? from what ive seen derp is a gimmick alt where the gimmick makes it LHF?In post 1049, shellyc wrote:theres nothing much of a highlight reel in this game, its not the most exciting lol
N_M is N_M
I'm obvtown
A50 has been playing to town meta so far (?) and is on board with my solve
bingle has been protown and giving their takes often and also having a really solvey tone since they repped in imo
derp was the d1 elim
froppy is null and hasn't said much at all
johnny is a scumbucket for flailing basically and having inconsistent and unexplained trajectories
MWNN is townlean because of poe and how they vibe together with A50
MV is rather obvious town as explained, proactivity to further the game with their reads and mech, spent time to make a master plan to try catch scum!me, really fleshed out reads
profmaf is a lurker who only knows to omgus me and doesn't explain any of their thoughts in detail or elaborate on anythin
yessireee was my only supporter on profmaf and died n1
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who pushed your wagon to E-2? what were the other competing wagons?In post 1052, shellyc wrote:actually in fairness I'm not getting UTRd really?
i got pushed to E-2 yesterday and now nka's rather clearing of me + I'm getting people to sheep me on my solve
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im assuming that its not you that says NKA clears you, right?In post 1052, shellyc wrote:i got pushed to E-2 yesterday and now nka's rather clearing of me + I'm getting people to sheep me on my solve
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Also, shelly if ur so convinced we are scum, why do I feel like you are just trying to pocket us will all this ... IIoa or whatever?
plus based on your descriptions and stuff, it literally just sounds like our predecessor was a juicy LHF.
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ok in that case what are your other reads and why? walk me through the solves?
i did read through our predecessor's iso and... i do see why we are on L-2, but isnt it at least half personality rather than actual play? why would scum be so openly hostile and disagreeable?
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at the same time, pocketing replacements is easy. Taylor done pocketed me in the last game I repped into >:(In post 1060, shellyc wrote:I'm helping you to understand the game so I can re-evaluate you
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doesnt this somewhat clear profmaf? isnt profmaf in one of the solves? why?In post 1049, shellyc wrote:yessireee was my only supporter on profmaf and died n1-
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doesnt this somewhat clear profmaf? isnt profmaf in one of the solves? why?In post 1049, shellyc wrote:yessireee was my only supporter on profmaf and died n1-
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wow that didnt take long. quoting this into iso. obviously ^ was noraaIn post 1076, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
so shelly being obvtown isnt consensus then?In post 1071, MiniVirgo wrote:
I'm not a big fan of self-readingIn post 1049, shellyc wrote:I'm obvtown
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why is someone being consensus a good reason for someone to scumread them?In post 1080, shellyc wrote:
can you pls compromise on elbirnIn post 1077, Froppy wrote:VOTE: Johnny
I'd rather find out which one it is rather than killing a policy
we can get johnny tmr as they're in my solve as well but elbirn is like. more consensus scum than johnny 100%
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personally ill need to engage with people to develop reads. i dont think either of us is inclined to read 40 pages. i think both of us are willing to read particular parts that are important. but in terms of "playing from here" we've really only engaged with you so far, and without knowing how other people view the interaction its hard to gauge.
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noraa is signing her posts normally, so the swizzled signings are mine
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froppy what are your reads? do you think scum is lurking, or just quietly keeping the game on its current track?
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what do you mean by which one? do you mean one of the two solves? if so, why would you think its either solve if you also think town is on the wrong track and scum is just accepting it?In post 1077, Froppy wrote:VOTE: Johnny
I'd rather find out which one it is rather than killing a policy
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it was noraa's faultIn post 1078, shellyc wrote:
altslip x 1In post 1076, Tayl0r Swift wrote:so shelly being obvtown isnt consensus then?
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In post 1086, Froppy wrote:
Actually idk why that would mean that town is on the right trackIn post 1074, Froppy wrote:
I've only seen like the same 5 people speak since I repped in so I feel town is either on the right track or mafia is happy with our sus listsIn post 1021, Bingle wrote:Froppy, what are your reads/takes?
but just above you said you dont think town is on the right track and mafia is probably coasting, right?In post 1091, Froppy wrote:
I think town is on the right track and mafia have put up a good fightIn post 1088, Swizzle Pop wrote:froppy what are your reads? do you think scum is lurking, or just quietly keeping the game on its current track?
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i did. im taylor swizzleIn post 1097, MiniVirgo wrote:
Please use your hydra to quote this so we can see it on your ISO and no it isn't but this is a dumb postIn post 1076, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
so shelly being obvtown isnt consensus then?In post 1071, MiniVirgo wrote:
I'm not a big fan of self-readingIn post 1049, shellyc wrote:I'm obvtown
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JACKOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOIn post 1067, MiniVirgo wrote:
NORAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIn post 1027, piisirrational wrote:Swizzle Pop (hydra of Noraa and Tayl0r Swift) replaces Elbirn. Welcome!
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don't replace out otherwise I'll be sad
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sorry. i figured everyone would know that taylor swift is sometimes referred to as T. Swizzle. noraabear is signing all her posts in a normal/boring manner.In post 1100, MiniVirgo wrote:
Nevermind you did so. Please blatantly make it obvious who is posting, because swizzle and senpa means nothing to me.In post 1079, Swizzle Pop wrote:
wow that didnt take long. quoting this into iso. obviously ^ was noraaIn post 1076, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
so shelly being obvtown isnt consensus then?In post 1071, MiniVirgo wrote:
I'm not a big fan of self-readingIn post 1049, shellyc wrote:I'm obvtown
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im also a little hurt that theres no TAYYYYYLORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR. dony you care about me JV?In post 1102, Swizzle Pop wrote:
JACKOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOIn post 1067, MiniVirgo wrote:
NORAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIn post 1027, piisirrational wrote:Swizzle Pop (hydra of Noraa and Tayl0r Swift) replaces Elbirn. Welcome!
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don't replace out otherwise I'll be sad
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HOW RUDE. U FORGOT UR SCUMBUDDY FROM BATS >:(In post 1073, shellyc wrote:
noraa is deadly good at scum and swizzle is pretty good as well so ehIn post 1069, MiniVirgo wrote:Noraa can give us a new outlook on their slot.
HMPH
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"deadly good at scum"
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died day 3 "good effort Noraa"
died day 3 "you tried Noraa"
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don't frame me >:(In post 1090, Swizzle Pop wrote:
it was noraa's faultIn post 1078, shellyc wrote:
altslip x 1In post 1076, Tayl0r Swift wrote:so shelly being obvtown isnt consensus then?
(-this is obviously noraa confessing)
death tunneling .... idk. I think its a shelly town tell as she's always overly confident for no apparent reason when she's town. idk I want to talk to Taylor about it cuz I either am 100% sure of Shellys alignment thru my expert soul reads(nah I've just played with her a lot) OR I can't tell at all. normally its the "I can't tell category" that leans one way a bit but flip flops a lot.In post 1093, MiniVirgo wrote:
Though she has scum-tells, saying you want to push for their elimination still even if you could just easily switch to PM or Johnny and have the replacement still change the situation. Not sure how I feel about how you deathtunnel the current wagon without thinking of why sometimes that's a bad idea.In post 1073, shellyc wrote:
noraa is deadly good at scum and swizzle is pretty good as well so ehIn post 1069, MiniVirgo wrote:Noraa can give us a new outlook on their slot.
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oh wow clear and obvious pocket attempt
i mean err... thanks thats much better
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go all the way back to my first role pm and my first reply of "I'm confused" and a Jacko on the other end like "huh what's up with this girl?"In post 1105, MiniVirgo wrote:Noraa and I go wayyyyyyyy back
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im not sure yet. but thats what you said earlier, and then here youre saying the opposite. so im just trying to understand your perspectiveIn post 1107, Froppy wrote:Are you thinking that mafia is just coasting?
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but then you said you werent sure how it would indicate that town was in a good spot. i guess my question is: why do you think town is on the right track when youre saying the gamestate suggests we are on the wrong track?In post 1114, Froppy wrote:You know what OR means right?
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Jacko you have turned on the Taylor random name generator :/
best of luck.
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Heyyy. what's ur read on the game and why.In post 1122, Froppy wrote:I wasn't scum reading you, but you have been squirming and I don't really see you trying to figure out the game state.
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Ok but why. Throwing some names out means nothing.In post 1124, Froppy wrote:Johnny is a hard scum read for me, your slot continue to seem to try to be opportunistic and I am fairly certain that town has caught scum
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Also if we are being "opportunistic", why'd u remove ur vote when there is more support on this wagon?
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Im not reading 40 pages. I sincerely do not care what you say about it but I am not reading all that. You want me to skim an ISO or read a few certain pages, I'll do it but I aint going thru and reading 40 pages.In post 1127, Froppy wrote:why don't you read the game if you actually plan on solving
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really? if we arent trying to figure out the game state then what are all our questions about? or do you mean our predecessor? and when you say you werent scumreading us does that mean you are now?In post 1122, Froppy wrote:I wasn't scum reading you, but you have been squirming and I don't really see you trying to figure out the game state.
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how are we being opportunistic? what wagons are we pushing or latching on to opportunistically?In post 1124, Froppy wrote:Johnny is a hard scum read for me, your slot continue to seem to try to be opportunistic and I am fairly certain that town has caught scum
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I paid legit zero attention to you until you started being all weird. Taylor and I both dislike ur slot rn.In post 1131, Froppy wrote:You see me as the weakest player so you are trying to get the wagon thrown onto me, that is your goal. Not to try and solve, not to figure out the game state, you are being opportunistic.
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but we havent said that you're scum. we're just asking questions of you, and everyone else. we are trying to get into the game and figure out whats what. we both are coming to scumread you, but its not locked in. i dont see why a townie would give two options, then pick one, then reverse to the other one immediately. and you dont seem to want to give us a readlist which is odd.In post 1131, Froppy wrote:You see me as the weakest player so you are trying to get the wagon thrown onto me, that is your goal. Not to try and solve, not to figure out the game state, you are being opportunistic.
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froppy can you start by walking us through your scumread on johnny?
also does that mean you dont scumread us now?
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Plus, using u being a weak player as a reason to throw random shade at us is weak.
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its either town is in a bad place or a good place. you said good place didnt make sense (implicitly choosing the other option), but then immediately changed to thinking town was in a good place after all. i dont understand the underlying thought process there.In post 1137, Froppy wrote:Which option did I reverse?
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that sounds like typical NM and while i think its ok to use NM as a compromise lunch i think we can prolly do better than a PL here. why johnny though?In post 1141, MiniVirgo wrote:I've caught on to something, I'm not going to say what it is today but I'm against a Swizzle/Froppy/shelly lynch. If I die tonight just feel free to ignore this because I am NOT softing what I've seen but if you see it also don't bring it up or even tell anyone that you've seen it.
As a consolidation vote, I am either voting Johnny or N_M today. My preference is the latter but the former doesn't pain me to do either.
We have three lynches before we lose. Two lynches before we hit LyLo. We have to PL them now if we do it at all as otherwise we leave it too close if they are Town. The reason why, for those that just replaced in, is that they're playstyle is completely and utterly anti-town and I have reasons to think that they're scum as well so this flip is double helpful. They lolhammered derp D1 and they will almost 100% do it again and again until they hammer town in LyLo. We can't let them live.
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youd rather we vote you than present your reads? i dont understand this at all
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why is that?In post 1149, Froppy wrote:
I want you to try and get me killedIn post 1148, Swizzle Pop wrote:youd rather we vote you than present your reads? i dont understand this at all
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does that mean youre willing to talk to me about your reads now?
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See, I don't know Johnny well but a quick and shallow meta dive actually shows that he is rather ...... no offense but ... useless as town. Like how do I explain this? As town, he's low-key antitown and basically doesn't do shit. As scum, I'd actually argue he looks much more towny. I didnt read thru all the games and I only skimmed a few pages on like a few games but eh, this be what I think I think I'd rather lim NM over Johnny cuz based on his meta, I actually believe this slot is town. NM on the other hand ........... no meta to do anything with. They have their hot 10 posts per game that really don't tell me anything whatsoever :/ But I want to take a closer look at some other slots here. someone engage me!!!In post 1170, MiniVirgo wrote:Well looks like JV has this all under control but I personally agree with Shelly on 1160 being scummy
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anti-consensus describes my town game p well nil and I do not think it is a scumtell. Last game I was in with Prof, he was scum and I never caught it. I'll probs ISO there if I remember to latersIn post 1174, Nandor the Relentless wrote:
Prof's 2 scumreads here are pretty anti-concensus which is town-indicative for most scum.In post 1171, Professor Mafia wrote:swizzle pops entrance is rather obviously town
imo, big elephant still scum, I'm on board with the scum!MV bits, they seem to constantly post but they arent really providing a lot of useful content and much of what they're saying is either common sense like policying N_M and also synthesizing shellyc's thoughts on johnny/elbirn.
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You missed my earlier question, Prof.
Also, could you explain my shelly's still scum?
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quoting this into iso for noraa
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