Open 862: Diffusion of Power (Game Over)

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #41 (isolation #0) » Tue Aug 09, 2022 6:00 am

In post 14, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 11, Alianna wrote:VOTE: Bellaphant because I'm a sheep.
Oooh - spicy. Let's go for that elusive page 1 elim.

There a particular reason you want one?
VOTE: Penguin

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #63 (isolation #1) » Tue Aug 09, 2022 6:24 am

In post 45, Somnus wrote:
In post 38, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:It's Enchant.

Likely a fake claim.

I don't particularly like it.

VOTE: Enchant

In post 40, Alianna wrote:Well, I'm a sheep so...

VOTE: Enchant
I don't put much stock in a page 2 claim, especially in this setup, but why would this be scum indicative? Like, is the thought that Enchant decided to fake-claim as mafia here thinking we'd all keep him around just for his alleged Night 5 result? I'm not being snarky here. I'm genuinely curious.

I meant to do my homework and look at if this is the kind of setup where mass-claim even matters at some point or if Day 1/2 PRs are considered more valuable than 4/5, but Youtube was beckoning and 1 video led to 14 and here we are.

I think d2 massclaim is rather common and I don't think it's that bad

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #306 (isolation #2) » Tue Aug 09, 2022 5:01 pm

In post 60, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:That's your second strike

VOTE: Ausuka

What was his first?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #307 (isolation #3) » Tue Aug 09, 2022 5:01 pm

In post 76, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Early replacement.

Scum slot.

Gross post.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #309 (isolation #4) » Tue Aug 09, 2022 5:05 pm

In post 115, Alianna wrote:
In post 107, Ausuka wrote:
In post 104, Alianna wrote:
In post 101, Ausuka wrote:Ali is there a reason you seem totally fine with BBT blatantly refusing to answer your questions and still expecting you to answer his?
I'm not fine with it. I'd like to see an answer.
But also, it was only one question, so this seems like you may be misconstruing the situation.
I checked and it's true that you only asked one question; I saw another post with a question mark but that was indeed not actually a question. I don't think this substantially changes my opinion. Why do you think this is scum indicative?
As I said, I thought it may be a misrepresentation what happened. You're not lockscum, just a little sus.

VOTE: Alianna
While I’m not impressed w BBT’s approach to this game rn this feels like a very tepid way of engaging

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #310 (isolation #5) » Tue Aug 09, 2022 5:09 pm

In post 135, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
In post 61, Alianna wrote: Why did you find it scummy?
I didn't initially like the first question to Gamma, although this was a minor thing.

The second post just felt wordy for the sake of it. Clearly, I couldn't possibly have a good read on NM from his few posts but I was joking around that because NM is using words (as opposed to rainbow reads-lists or some shit) that it makes me think he is town when he is probably more likely to be scum using an appealing style (humour).

Then came the buzzword read of Ali being 'genuine' and the TMI read of Enchant claim being town as if Enchant couldn't just reverse that claim at any time claiming it was an RVS joke post or whatever.

PEdit - Frog had his Weetabix this morning. Come at me bro.

Acknowledging this

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #311 (isolation #6) » Tue Aug 09, 2022 5:10 pm

In post 54, Ausuka wrote:
In post 41, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 14, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 11, Alianna wrote:VOTE: Bellaphant because I'm a sheep.
Oooh - spicy. Let's go for that elusive page 1 elim.
There a particular reason you want one?
VOTE: Penguin
Why do you think this is an useful line of questioning?

I didn’t notice this earlier
I feel like a page 1 elim doesn’t really net good wagon data

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #313 (isolation #7) » Tue Aug 09, 2022 5:13 pm

In post 151, froggodoggo wrote:
In post 101, Ausuka wrote:Ali is there a reason you seem totally fine with BBT blatantly refusing to answer your questions and still expecting you to answer his?
THIS. i didnt see this but THISSSS

This feels off, why are you reacting to that post this way?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #315 (isolation #8) » Tue Aug 09, 2022 5:15 pm

In post 162, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:No, Norwegian.

NM is a... unique player.

Imma be blunt I think there’s vague townpings from some of what NM has done but being humorous is par for the course with NM
He’s at least being legitimately funny this game

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #316 (isolation #9) » Tue Aug 09, 2022 5:17 pm

In post 175, Alianna wrote:
In post 171, Enchant wrote:So anyway.

There's gameplan.

I am main key figure to win game.

Therefore all other Cops need to target me, and discover that i am town.
With this supeconfirmation i will check someone else, and voila, game won.
That sounds like a pretty good way to lose the game.

This assumes Encanto is town?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #317 (isolation #10) » Tue Aug 09, 2022 5:18 pm

Actually not really
But why raise a concern with that wording?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #318 (isolation #11) » Tue Aug 09, 2022 5:22 pm

In post 212, Alianna wrote:Somnus is probably town off of his tone.

N_M needs a cop check.

Why do you say NM needs to be checked?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #408 (isolation #12) » Wed Aug 10, 2022 4:47 am

In post 258, Bellaphant wrote:@bbt, fair, I need to stop relying so hard on inference: I think I'm being obvious and then get surprised when people don't get it. I wasn't trying to be offensive though - I do think you do things that people see as being 'from scum ' as town and vice versa, and I have always assumed it's a little bit on purpose, because of your sig. I also said I think a lot of it is aggression, though - or forcefulness/purpose - you do want to get shit done as either alignment.

Re pocketing, I am going to be non commital and say sort of: in cultists I was mainly handling you with kid gloves, because rolling first scum in ages with you town was scary. I think in other games it might be easy for scum!Bella to pocket bbt for the same reason it's intially easy for scum!bbt to pocket Bella - we do tend to have similar thoughts at times, and I'm certainly trying to learn to make my scum game feel more like my town game by giving my actual thoughts - I got snowed recently by scum! lukewarm saying stuff that couksbe been from my brain but he was scum!

Maybe mindmelding is a bad method of finding town

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #409 (isolation #13) » Wed Aug 10, 2022 4:51 am

In post 280, froggodoggo wrote:making snarky comments and saying things like “i HOPE you’re not doing X scummy thing!!” instead of just calling someone scummy. maybe it’s just flavor but it looks non-commital to me, like you’re pointing out scummy things with no intent to actually push on them.

This is a valid comment
We’ll see how NM’s play builds tho

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #410 (isolation #14) » Wed Aug 10, 2022 4:54 am

In post 322, Somnus wrote:Ehhhh...I’m not getting back to sleep. I’m caught up but feel like I need to re-read the last 5-6 pages because it’s all kind of mushing together for me right now. Will have more later when I’m not on mobile.

Mood.
This is probably town

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #411 (isolation #15) » Wed Aug 10, 2022 4:58 am

In post 350, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I’d also like to know if you still scumread them BBT.

Weird vibe from this post.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #432 (isolation #16) » Wed Aug 10, 2022 6:06 am

In post 413, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 411, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 350, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I’d also like to know if you still scumread them BBT.
Weird vibe from this post.
Why is that a weird vibe.
I wanted to doubly make sure BBT responded cus i wanted to know that too.

It sounded like scum trying to tack themselves onto a push to look like they’re sorting

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #433 (isolation #17) » Wed Aug 10, 2022 6:08 am

In post 365, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 311, Gamma Emerald wrote:I feel like a page 1 elim doesn’t really net good wagon data
i'm sorry - did you actually think i was serious?

Little bit!

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #434 (isolation #18) » Wed Aug 10, 2022 6:10 am

In post 386, Fun Times wrote:VOTE: Penguin

gg gottem. frozen scum

-Andante

lolk

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #435 (isolation #19) » Wed Aug 10, 2022 6:12 am

In post 396, PenguinPower wrote:we had nice competing wagons in me and Alianna at that point...booo

I kinda think you’re town for the self-vote
It felt like that one JK9++ game I self-voted in as town: chaotic but also tactical.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #436 (isolation #20) » Wed Aug 10, 2022 6:14 am

In post 416, Fun Times wrote:
In post 414, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 412, Fun Times wrote:
In post 387, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 384, Fun Times wrote:
In post 382, PenguinPower wrote:Wow....two lolhammers not interested in lolhammering...

this is a wacky world.
in this wacky world, are you a wolf?

-Andante
No - I carry a gun and shoot people at night.
IDK HOW I MISSED THIS!!!

oof, Penguin... you don't sound like a good guy ._. you sound... S C A R Y

-Andante
depends on your perspective really
well if I was on the dark side, you'd be my bestie right now, but from the perspective of having TOWN's best interest in mind... I think we're playing for opposite teams here...

Your mindset is exclusionary to vigilantes

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #440 (isolation #21) » Wed Aug 10, 2022 6:17 am

That’s a weird phrasing
“Come talk for a moment, then we’ll KILL YOU!”
PEdit: @BBT

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #442 (isolation #22) » Wed Aug 10, 2022 6:17 am

In post 438, Fun Times wrote:ok, not to dumbtell or whatever, but I thought we could only have cops/docs and this is the 2nd time I'm seeing someone talk to me about a vig. there's literally no vig in the setup??

-Andante

‘twas a joke

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #457 (isolation #23) » Wed Aug 10, 2022 6:24 am

In post 443, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Only fair she gets a chance to respond to the wagon, no?

I would think a stranger process is just to yeet her while she isn't here

Why is the yeet a predetermined thing though?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #459 (isolation #24) » Wed Aug 10, 2022 6:25 am

In post 444, Fun Times wrote:
In post 436, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 416, Fun Times wrote:
In post 414, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 412, Fun Times wrote:
In post 387, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 384, Fun Times wrote:
In post 382, PenguinPower wrote:Wow....two lolhammers not interested in lolhammering...

this is a wacky world.
in this wacky world, are you a wolf?

-Andante
No - I carry a gun and shoot people at night.
IDK HOW I MISSED THIS!!!

oof, Penguin... you don't sound like a good guy ._. you sound... S C A R Y

-Andante
depends on your perspective really
well if I was on the dark side, you'd be my bestie right now, but from the perspective of having TOWN's best interest in mind... I think we're playing for opposite teams here...
Your mindset is exclusionary to vigilantes
Ty BBT,

so there's no vigs, what was the purpose of this @Gamma?

-Andante

In post 442, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 438, Fun Times wrote:ok, not to dumbtell or whatever, but I thought we could only have cops/docs and this is the 2nd time I'm seeing someone talk to me about a vig. there's literally no vig in the setup??

-Andante
‘twas a joke

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #461 (isolation #25) » Wed Aug 10, 2022 6:27 am

I’m asking about BBT’s mindset before Alianna posted again!

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #462 (isolation #26) » Wed Aug 10, 2022 6:27 am

Also pls chill and maybe let Nancy post a bit

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #468 (isolation #27) » Wed Aug 10, 2022 6:30 am

I can relate to an extent

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #471 (isolation #28) » Wed Aug 10, 2022 6:32 am

In post 469, Ausuka wrote:Can we not locktown or lockscum Ali 24 hours into the game thanks

Scum post

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #477 (isolation #29) » Wed Aug 10, 2022 6:36 am

In post 473, Ausuka wrote:
In post 471, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 469, Ausuka wrote:Can we not locktown or lockscum Ali 24 hours into the game thanks
Scum post
lockscum post you might say

Perhaps.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #527 (isolation #30) » Fri Aug 12, 2022 9:32 am

VOTE: norwegian

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #548 (isolation #31) » Fri Aug 12, 2022 10:35 am

In post 533, froggodoggo wrote:Don’t have much time to post rn but that self hammer fkin sucked and I want to lim the hydra for putting such overwhelming pressure on Alianna. It was ludicrous

In post 534, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Agreed with Frog.

they're almost certainly town despite the townflip imo

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #550 (isolation #32) » Fri Aug 12, 2022 10:36 am

In post 538, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 527, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: norwegian
por que

his reaction to the Alianna flip is over-the-top

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #552 (isolation #33) » Fri Aug 12, 2022 10:37 am

the confidence in the scumflip?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #554 (isolation #34) » Fri Aug 12, 2022 10:38 am

tbf I think 2-3 scum were of the Alianna wagon

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #555 (isolation #35) » Fri Aug 12, 2022 10:38 am

In post 520, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Self-voting as town. Even more heinous crime.

this is what pinged me the hardest

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #586 (isolation #36) » Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:06 am

In post 576, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Also what is this style i’m seeing from Gamma.
All Gamma does is say "gross post", "off vibes", "bad"
Like there is no substance at all.

not a scumtell for me

pretty sure I did a lot of that in mini 2276

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #589 (isolation #37) » Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:08 am

In post 587, NorwegianboyEE wrote:What is meta.

is this a position you want to seriously take?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #590 (isolation #38) » Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:09 am

In post 588, Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 375, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 368, Not_Mafia wrote:What universe do you mean friendo I only know one universe and it’s the one where you and I are the best of buds I would never lolhammer, it’s anti-town, disrespectful to the effort everyone is putting into the game and just plain rude

VOTE: Alianna

e-1
It's way too early for E-1, I'm begging you all let's slow down and co-operate

this is forced and annoying

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #596 (isolation #39) » Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:10 am

In post 484, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 466, Fun Times wrote:
In post 463, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Andante, please relax.
IM RIGHT!!! LIKE!! HYPEEEE!!! I FOUND A WOLF!!! I'm excited!!

but sure whatever, I'm out

-Andante
Yes yes... we will quote your name long in the credits list somewhere...

But the true credit obviously goes to the worlds most clever detective!

In post 533, froggodoggo wrote:Don’t have much time to post rn but that self hammer fkin sucked and I want to lim the hydra for putting such overwhelming pressure on Alianna. It was ludicrous

In post 534, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Agreed with Frog.

HMMMM

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #599 (isolation #40) » Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:13 am

Last time someone accused me of TMI they were scum

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #602 (isolation #41) » Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:14 am

so you kinda make me scumread you harder with the "try to convince someone they are scum thing" while also coming off as remarkably similar to a scum strat I've seen rather recently

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #604 (isolation #42) » Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:15 am

and btw
I blame you for the Alianna llm, Norwee

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #606 (isolation #43) » Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:18 am

In post 603, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Are you going to elaborate more on your reasoning of townreading the hydra?

the full forcefulness Andante brought to her Alianna read and just her approach in general feels bleedingly obvtown

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #607 (isolation #44) » Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:19 am

In post 605, NorwegianboyEE wrote:No answer so i will not change my view.
Rest is not worth commenting on.

I was literally about to post it, nice to know you're not actually intent on solving!
Kill Norwee.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #609 (isolation #45) » Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:21 am

In post 413, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 411, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 350, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I’d also like to know if you still scumread them BBT.
Weird vibe from this post.
Why is that a weird vibe.
I wanted to doubly make sure BBT responded cus i wanted to know that too.

...

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #610 (isolation #46) » Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:22 am

In post 608, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 606, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 603, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Are you going to elaborate more on your reasoning of townreading the hydra?
the full forcefulness Andante brought to her Alianna read and just her approach in general feels bleedingly obvtown
Again, forcefullness is not really town indicative? I mean i really don’t see the difference that makes.
Also what is so obvtown?

idk if I can effectively explain and given you seem dedicated to reading me in bad faith, I give zero fucks about explaining it to you!

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #613 (isolation #47) » Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:26 am

I can try
but again trying to turn my refusal to explain into a reason to SR just reinforces my opinion of your read on me

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #614 (isolation #48) » Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:26 am

In post 612, Somnus wrote:
BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Somnus and Gamma would be great cop checks.

Protect myself or Fun times if Docs.

Thanks.

Lord, I hope if there was a Night 1 Doctor, they didn't waste it here. And if you are even town in this game, why on flat Earth would mafia target you? You've been an asset to mafia so far. Do you consider yourself widely town-read in this game for some reason? The lack of self-awareness here is stunning.

the fuck is this post?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #616 (isolation #49) » Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:27 am

also why the fuck is there no post link so I can check context???

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #617 (isolation #50) » Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:27 am

like seriously people who quote posts and remove the links honestly piss me the fuck off

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #622 (isolation #51) » Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:33 am

I'm honestly probably embellishing my confidence a bit but I still think the most confident pushes on Alianna were probably all town-motivated and that includes Andante

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #623 (isolation #52) » Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:34 am

In post 618, Somnus wrote:Don't really care about your feelings and the context is literally the last posts of Day 1.

yeah you could have left my feelings out of this post
if I land on TRing you and there's a wagon on you I'm not defending you now.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #628 (isolation #53) » Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:39 am

In post 625, Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 471, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 469, Ausuka wrote:Can we not locktown or lockscum Ali 24 hours into the game thanks
Scum post
Why

not important, I was wrong anyway

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #629 (isolation #54) » Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:39 am

UNVOTE:

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #631 (isolation #55) » Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:40 am

I do wanna know why BBT thought me/Somnus were good cop checks btw

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #635 (isolation #56) » Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:45 am

VOTE: Not_Mafia
given what happened in later posts, this string of posts he's making feel incredibly disingenuous

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #645 (isolation #57) » Fri Aug 12, 2022 12:04 pm

UNVOTE:

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #724 (isolation #58) » Sat Aug 13, 2022 12:03 am

In post 700, froggodoggo wrote:
In post 644, Not_Mafia wrote:Now I'll throw the question back to you, cause you want to blame me for that lim, why were you even on it in the first place?
because a lot of their posts pinged me as scum and i wanted to pressure them to see if they could change my mind. quickhammering them does not accomplish that and in no way does my vote include anything abt wanting to kill them d1

why did you abusively pressure alianna? what was that supposed to accomplish? what sort of reaction were you looking for?

BASCUSE ME?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #725 (isolation #59) » Sat Aug 13, 2022 12:04 am

VOTE: froggodoggo

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #726 (isolation #60) » Sat Aug 13, 2022 12:05 am

In post 706, froggodoggo wrote:
In post 576, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Also what is this style i’m seeing from Gamma.
All Gamma does is say "gross post", "off vibes", "bad"
Like there is no substance at all.
i'm assuming that's just gamma's playstyle, but the one game i played with them they were SK and a mafia was TRing them d1 for meta. i have no qualms with gamma's play rn tho

Pretty sure that player was trying to pocket me.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #727 (isolation #61) » Sat Aug 13, 2022 12:07 am

In post 720, Enchant wrote:VOTE: Fun Times

WHY

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #729 (isolation #62) » Sat Aug 13, 2022 12:42 am

Feels like an opportunistic and grimy vote choice

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #739 (isolation #63) » Sat Aug 13, 2022 4:55 am

In post 737, Enchant wrote:Why not is actual answer

No it is not. It is deflecting the question to the other person.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #740 (isolation #64) » Sat Aug 13, 2022 4:56 am

I also said why not so now it’s your turn to say why.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #742 (isolation #65) » Sat Aug 13, 2022 5:53 am

Idot.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #744 (isolation #66) » Sat Aug 13, 2022 6:15 am

You know what I meant
But to reiterate: since I explained why I feel like your Fun Times vote was bad, you should return favor and give a tangible explanation to why you think it is good.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #791 (isolation #67) » Sat Aug 13, 2022 1:05 pm

In post 772, froggodoggo wrote:
In post 759, Fun Times wrote:
In post 704, froggodoggo wrote:probably missed some stuff but reading through fun times play end of day 1 made me furious. i see the reasons for them being town but i want to personally be convinced.
So “furious” you still managed to overcome your so-called “rage” and help get her miselimed.

Have you ever heard the famous Shakespeare quote, “the lady doth protest too much”? That’s exactly what your posts read like to me.
?????????
am i being gaslit?????
the vote was practically quickhammered.
i wasnt THERE to prevent anything.

by Alianna. So why are you acting like it’s all Fun Times’ fault when Alianna’s response to reasonable sustained pressure was to nope out of the game?
Also, definitely not a fan of your continuing conduct in this game.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #792 (isolation #68) » Sat Aug 13, 2022 1:07 pm

In post 780, Bellaphant wrote:@frog, finding the use of language a little bit emotional: there must be better words than abusive And gaslit. Can we tone it down a little? Like, I'm not even parsing the conversation and these touch paper words aren't helpful

“Touch paper”?
I probably understand the meaning of this less due to the existence of the phrase “touch grass”

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #793 (isolation #69) » Sat Aug 13, 2022 1:11 pm

Also did another cop claim happen today beyond Goldfish or did I dream that up?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #796 (isolation #70) » Sat Aug 13, 2022 1:31 pm

In post 794, Fun Times wrote:
In post 793, Gamma Emerald wrote:Also did another cop claim happen today beyond Goldfish or did I dream that up?
yeah cop that has you as maf.
gg gottem!!

-Andante

Do you actually suspect me or are you just making a tasteless joke?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #838 (isolation #71) » Sun Aug 14, 2022 7:46 am

In post 745, Enchant wrote:I don't need OPPORTUNNITIES

This explains nothing about why you initially voted FT

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #839 (isolation #72) » Sun Aug 14, 2022 7:48 am

In post 820, Fun Times wrote:
In post 815, Bellaphant wrote:
In post 792, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 780, Bellaphant wrote:@frog, finding the use of language a little bit emotional: there must be better words than abusive And gaslit. Can we tone it down a little? Like, I'm not even parsing the conversation and these touch paper words aren't helpful
“Touch paper”?
I probably understand the meaning of this less due to the existence of the phrase “touch grass”
Emotive I guess. The content doesn't seem like frog actually wants to upset the hydra, but the words are going to do that. Frogs response to everything seems really overblown but I'm not sure if scum would make this much noise?
I hesitate to respond to this at all because Andante is so extremely upset and it’s also emotionally affecting me as well but they’re are a couple of things that really aren’t making a whole lot of sense to me.

How is Frog sr us and townlocking Gamma for townclearing us? Also why is he voting Enchant for voting us if he still thinks we’re scum here? Is any of that making sense to anyone?

~N

Where is frog townlocking me?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #843 (isolation #73) » Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:37 am

oh lol
I figured it was related to that

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #867 (isolation #74) » Sun Aug 14, 2022 9:58 am

In post 849, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I don’t see anything overtly pinging me about Frog’s play, dare i even call him an potential townread?
He’s got his head in the game which is more than i can say about a couple other slots.

Which slots?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #903 (isolation #75) » Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:50 am

In post 871, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Goldfish*
Who the heck is blood? I'm so tired.

You were probably thinking of BBT?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #904 (isolation #76) » Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:51 am

In post 876, NorwegianboyEE wrote:You want me to brag about my own towniness?
Ok.

I’m very active.
Very very cute and townie.
Asking extremely clever questions.
Been keeping up with the game more than many other players, despite being sick and tired IRL a lot of the time.
Consistently kept up on current affairs and very motivated.
Probably unpartnered with most players.
Dreaming about solving the game every night.

I trust this last line

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #908 (isolation #77) » Sun Aug 14, 2022 2:32 pm

Where does that 40% come from?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #909 (isolation #78) » Sun Aug 14, 2022 2:34 pm

In post 907, Enchant wrote:Fun Times
PenguinPower
Not_Mafia

Somnus

Bellaphant
BlueBloodedToffee
froggodoggo
Gamma Emerald

GoldfishFromTheMoon

NorwegianboyEE

Enchant

Assuming strikes ppl are good (i sure about Enchant), then others contain 3 mafia.

3 mafia amongst 8 players.
So Norwegian is 40% Mafia aligned! Seems fair game for me.

Also this is a dipshit PoE in general. You’re not townreading anyone?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #915 (isolation #79) » Sun Aug 14, 2022 5:09 pm

Hello. I hope you came to play.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #957 (isolation #80) » Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:29 am

In post 924, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
In post 631, Gamma Emerald wrote:I do wanna know why BBT thought me/Somnus were good cop checks btw
I thought you were a good check because I didn't like some of your D1 play - your vote on Ali despite appearing to scum read me felt bad 309 and your reasoning for town reading both Somnus and Penguin were equally bad 410 and 435

I wasn’t really SR you in 309, that could have been communicated better
I can’t really say anything about 410/435 that’ll satisfy you because that’s just how I play most of the time

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #960 (isolation #81) » Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:30 am

In post 952, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I feel like that is Town!Norwegian trying to claim early credit for a scum!Ali flip.

Given Ali flipped town, then 484 seems unlikely to come from scum.

Will get to your longer post when I can

???
I don’t think anyone would have actually given him credit?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #961 (isolation #82) » Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:32 am

In post 926, Enchant wrote:
In post 923, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 873, Bellaphant wrote:You?
Sry.
Ok so i've been feeling that both Enchant and N_M are suspicious like you've stated yourself. But these are the typical "mislim" players so if i'm wrong about a player being scum it's likely in those two.
PenguinPower i don't think has been very townie. Mostly their day 2 has been mech talk, and then just responding to stuff otherwise. Which is a bit like filler imo.
Goldfish seriously needs to be more active, only an early unexplained claim and then afk is scummy. I can't read their townie motivation for what they did.

Otherwise i find most slots townie or null. Want Jake to post more.
I think NM is town
if
when Norwe flips mafia.

No reason for teammate to throw self at sword to give NM towncred.

So you think it’s white knight versus buddy defense? Okay.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #964 (isolation #83) » Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:38 am

In post 933, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
In post 725, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: froggodoggo
Why?

I believe I disliked how his FT push didn’t feel like a real thought process
But atp that’s not really relevant to how I want to approach that slot
UNVOTE:

In post 933, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
In post 729, Gamma Emerald wrote:Feels like an opportunistic and grimy vote choice
Can you explain how Enchant's vote was opportunistic?

Felt like there was semi-substantial pressure on FT from Norwee and froggo
The vote thus felt like trying to predict wagon dynamics and tack on an extra vote
Enchant recently got criticized for a quickhammer so I kinda think scum!Enchant might rubberband into trying to vote very early on what he thinks is a viable lim wagon

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #966 (isolation #84) » Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:44 am

In post 962, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Gamma, I'm not saying he
should
have been given credit.

I'm saying he is trying to claim credit which would imply he didn't know that Ali would flip green.

Why do you think he would expect that?

In post 963, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Gamma, can you at least try to explain those town reads please?

I’ll try
Somnus was kinda a joke TR but I have struggles with approaching seemingly insurmountable tasks and that applies to reading thru mafia games. This was not as severe a case as instances I’ve felt myself but there was a vibe I picked up.
Penguin in a prior scumgame had been kinda tepid in the voting department because “muh wagonomics”. Him self voting here kinda felt opposed to that weaksauce play. In addition, I had in a game quite a while back self-voted myself to E-2 or something like it, and used reactions to it to bolster my reads. Tbf this is slightly a case of projecting my play onto Penguin’s as I have established history of using my vote as a deliberate pressure tool, but idk whether Penguin does that ever.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #967 (isolation #85) » Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:46 am

In post 965, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I disagree about Frog's push, I think he had some relevant points.

As for Enchant, that all seems pretty reasonable. Do you think FT was the 'easiest' vote Enchant could make? I would argue voting Frog would have been more opportunistic, would you agree?

Frog was the most opportunistic vote possible I’d say but I still think the FT vote was sketchy for the reason I laid out.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #968 (isolation #86) » Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:50 am

In post 560, Fun Times wrote:Not gonna lie, I didn't realize we were ending the day like 36 hours into it, we definitely should not have ended it before Goldfish spoke. my bad! I mean, end of the day, no regrets? I legit SRed them, they self hammered, and then I was solving, and they flipped town, and I went "are you serious right now??" what TOWN self hammers there?? like dude.. oh well moving on, my next confident read is Not_Mafia being maf here, but like, we're not gonna speed through D2, woooooo I mean, I'm always down for speedgame... but I don't think anyone else would appreciate it lol

-Andante

Btw to address why this didn’t ping me like Norwee’s posts at day start, this feels like actual thought process. Norwee’s posts felt like they didn’t serve much purpose beyond displaying a reaction.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #969 (isolation #87) » Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:53 am

Actually, reading 410 more closely I wrote out the wrong reasoning, while the stuff I wrote is kinda applicable it’s not what I initially TRed Somnus for
What I actually TRed was the part about having to re-read because posts were blending together. I also relate to that and the specific need to re-read seems town-indicative. It could be faked but I doubt Somnus thinks to fake that.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #970 (isolation #88) » Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:56 am

In post 938, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:With relation to Frog, your argument is invalid as Frog was not posting in game at the time of Ali being close to being elimmed.

So, yeah, he voted for Ali. But he voted when it was completely safe to do so and Ali was in no real danger of being elimmed. His gripe was with the way you backed Ali into a corner and every option she had was painted as being scummy.

I don’t think FT painted EVERY option Alianna had as scummy. I don’t think that’s what you’re saying but might as well say SK.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #971 (isolation #89) » Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:56 am

Say so*
got some bleed over from C9++

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #976 (isolation #90) » Mon Aug 15, 2022 5:01 am

In post 973, Enchant wrote:
In post 964, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 933, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
In post 725, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: froggodoggo
Why?
I believe I disliked how his FT push didn’t feel like a real thought process
But atp that’s not really relevant to how I want to approach that slot
UNVOTE:
In post 933, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
In post 729, Gamma Emerald wrote:Feels like an opportunistic and grimy vote choice
Can you explain how Enchant's vote was opportunistic?
Felt like there was semi-substantial pressure on FT from Norwee and froggo
The vote thus felt like trying to predict wagon dynamics and tack on an extra vote
Enchant recently got criticized for a quickhammer so I kinda think scum!Enchant might rubberband into trying to vote very early on what he thinks is a viable lim wagon
But i got criticized as town.

As mafia i can as well kingdom come everything on sight, and there's virtually nothing stopping me.

You say this but it doesn’t change that you

could have

done what I’m proposing.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #977 (isolation #91) » Mon Aug 15, 2022 5:03 am

In post 925, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 924, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Has your read on Gamma changed?
I felt like our 1v1 was making the game intolerable so i backed off to give it more thought.

What are your current thoughts on me?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #989 (isolation #92) » Mon Aug 15, 2022 6:04 am

@BBT I feel like you’re playstyle clashing with Nancy here
It’s against her nature to ever admit she’s been scummy, so expecting her to acknowledge your point is a lost cause

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #996 (isolation #93) » Mon Aug 15, 2022 6:14 am

In post 992, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Gamma, what do you think about Penguin?

He feels somewhat towny rn
I’m slightly busy rn otherwise I might try to add more but this is my general stance rn

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1038 (isolation #94) » Mon Aug 15, 2022 7:34 am

In post 1012, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Enchant and possibly NM are probably town

Why is this?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1117 (isolation #95) » Mon Aug 15, 2022 3:21 pm

In post 1060, Fun Times wrote:
In post 1057, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:No, let's play you're not reading my posts because you're scummy as fuck shall we?

My post LITERALLY answers your supposed problems with me and you refuse to acknowledge it.

You can be elimmed now.
Since we’re town, can I take this last part as a scum claim?

~N

This is 100% town

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1119 (isolation #96) » Mon Aug 15, 2022 3:22 pm

In post 1068, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Why did you choose to read your own slot first?

Is the Amish tell still a thing?

It never was.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1123 (isolation #97) » Mon Aug 15, 2022 3:28 pm

I frequently read the ISO of a slot I’m considering repping into before doing so to brace myself for entry
So Jake ISOing frog makes sense to me

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1133 (isolation #98) » Mon Aug 15, 2022 5:14 pm

In post 1128, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 1123, Gamma Emerald wrote:I frequently read the ISO of a slot I’m considering repping into before doing so to brace myself for entry
So Jake ISOing frog makes sense to me
sorry - you only read that slot's ISO?

before the game specifically, yes

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1140 (isolation #99) » Mon Aug 15, 2022 7:23 pm

In post 1122, PenguinPower wrote:fun times, gamma, n_m are town.

the rest of you can boot it.

I would add BBT to this townlist
I feel reasonably sure he’s town from when we were going back and forth earlier

Gamma Emerald · Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:43 am

How many votes is Jake at? I find his obsession over his predecessor actually rather scummy in a way that I wouldn’t say fits under Amished tell

Gamma Emerald · Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:53 am

In post 1184, Fun Times wrote:
In post 1182, Gamma Emerald wrote:How many votes is Jake at? I find his obsession over his predecessor actually rather scummy in a way that I wouldn’t say fits under Amished tell
To be clear, Amish tell is a replacement focusing excessively on their predecessor? Is that correct?

This is literally the first time I’ve ever heard of that term.

~N

It’s “Amished tell” (named after a former player on here) and it’s more to do with calling your predecessor scummy
I don’t think the Amished tell is that reliable but Jake is doing something a bit different that might actually be scum indicative. It’s funny in a slightly morbid way because the last/only time I saw something that probably resembles what I’m seeing from Jake, things soured real fast.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Aug 16, 2022 5:10 am

In post 1190, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Gamma what do you think is likelihood of an Enchant/Jake/Goldfish team?

I don’t townread any of them but I’ve not weighed associatives for any of them really, so I’ll go with “it’s possible”

Gamma Emerald · Tue Aug 16, 2022 5:12 am

In post 977, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 925, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 924, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Has your read on Gamma changed?
I felt like our 1v1 was making the game intolerable so i backed off to give it more thought.
What are your current thoughts on me?

I did see you say you don’t TR me but could you give some thoughts on my play

Norwee

?

Gamma Emerald · Tue Aug 16, 2022 7:51 am

Yeah what, they have food lion in florida?

Gamma Emerald · Tue Aug 16, 2022 7:53 am

ah
I might be moving to Texas in the semi-near future

Gamma Emerald · Tue Aug 16, 2022 7:57 am

?????

Gamma Emerald · Tue Aug 16, 2022 8:42 am

In post 1212, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
In post 1210, Gamma Emerald wrote:ah
I might be moving to Texas in the semi-near future
sine wile e ni tan seme?!?!

there's conventions that happen in the area that I actually have interest in attending

Gamma Emerald · Tue Aug 16, 2022 8:49 am

In post 1200, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Not getting any hard reads yet, generally BBT, Ali, and Ausuka feel alright

vrej

Gamma Emerald · Tue Aug 16, 2022 8:50 am

I'll wait until a replacement for goldfish shows up but I'm fine voting Jake atp

Gamma Emerald · Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:35 am

In post 1226, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 1193, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 977, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 925, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 924, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Has your read on Gamma changed?
I felt like our 1v1 was making the game intolerable so i backed off to give it more thought.
What are your current thoughts on me?
I did see you say you don’t TR me but could you give some thoughts on my play
Norwee
?
I've come to the conclusion that i can't read you, and if i try again i think you'll just get mad again.
So to deal with your slot i've decided to have you down as PoE, neither town or scumread. At least until i get some better ideas of how i should sort you.

Idr why I was even mad

Gamma Emerald · Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:37 am

yeah I wasn't actually mad I just got a bit of tunnel vision

Gamma Emerald · Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:40 am

this is why you got miselimed in the holy grail game dude

Gamma Emerald · Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:50 am

In post 1236, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
In post 1233, Gamma Emerald wrote:this is why you got miselimed in the holy grail game dude
I thought I got misaxed because I was not at all active in the game.

that didn't help but the activity you did have was deliberately unhelpful
for instance, the fake JOAT claim.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:57 am

ngl your armchair analysis sucks and looks agenda-driven

Gamma Emerald · Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:00 am

In post 1243, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
In post 1241, Gamma Emerald wrote:ngl your armchair analysis sucks and looks agenda-driven
Could you elaborate on this point?

your TRs thru page 6 are 2 dead town and a rando, and your opinion on BBT looks like setting up to push him once you're caght up

Gamma Emerald · Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:02 am

actually it's not that bad seeing as that rando was also BTT

Gamma Emerald · Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:02 am

still bad

Gamma Emerald · Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:06 am

you said you read the mod ISO, I feel like that makes it a reasonable assumtion that you know the flips

Gamma Emerald · Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:25 am

we're waiting for goldfish's replacement.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Aug 16, 2022 11:36 am

you respond to a wagon on you by addressing the reasons people have for voting, that's what I think nancy/andante wanted?

Gamma Emerald · Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:24 pm

In post 1271, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I think both myself and Ausuka showed some light suspicion of Ali before Bella's vote. I'd have to go back and check to see if I'm misremembering though and I really don't want to that while I'm phone posting.

What I'm saying is that scum!Bella possibly saw the potential for an Alianna wagon to take off and made the first move to secure their position on the wagon.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:38 pm

In post 964, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 933, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
In post 729, Gamma Emerald wrote:Feels like an opportunistic and grimy vote choice
Can you explain how Enchant's vote was opportunistic?
Felt like there was semi-substantial pressure on FT from Norwee and froggo
The vote thus felt like trying to predict wagon dynamics and tack on an extra vote
Enchant recently got criticized for a quickhammer so I kinda think scum!Enchant might rubberband into trying to vote very early on what he thinks is a viable lim wagon

In post 1271, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I think both myself and Ausuka showed some light suspicion of Ali before Bella's vote. I'd have to go back and check to see if I'm misremembering though and I really don't want to that while I'm phone posting.

What I'm saying is that scum!Bella possibly saw the potential for an Alianna wagon to take off and made the first move to secure their position on the wagon.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Aug 16, 2022 1:00 pm

I think he always does this scumclaim thing?

Gamma Emerald · Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:37 pm

In post 1294, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:
In post 1290, Gamma Emerald wrote:I think he always does this scumclaim thing?
So what do you think Gamma, you think I’m wrong on Jake?

Not really
Just saying it’s a thing he does

Gamma Emerald · Wed Aug 17, 2022 7:00 am

Is BB Bella?

Gamma Emerald · Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:30 am

In post 1389, Enchant wrote:Actually if this is truth, we can clear Goldfish too.

For absurd, but pretty solid for me reasons.

Try me.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:31 am

In post 1393, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
In post 1390, Somnus wrote: This baggage you're carrying from our last game isn't doing you any good. There's a reason half the playerlist doesn't bother to engage with you. You approach every conversation like a screaming toddler. This is about the extent of time I care to waste on you today. Enjoy your day.
Whatever you got going on in your life right now, I hope it gets better for you.

Until then, you probably shouldn't be playing Mafia.

This is uncalled for. I don’t think Somnus actually mentioned anything about rl so you’re really just being a dick for the sake of it.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:49 am

I don’t think Somnus being busy is the big deal that you’re making it seem to be. That’s what I took from the last 2 sentences of 1390.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:50 am

I also think he only made it personal because he felt you already were implicitly making things personal.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:54 am

You’re missing the point. Re-read my previous post, he only made a personal point because he felt your approach to him was being tainted by that prior game. I see no reason to think he’s lying unless he’s scum, and since you don’t think he’s scum you should be willing to accept that his feelings may be valid. I’m not saying you did bring in a grudge against Somnus, I’m saying he has reason to think you did.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:56 am

How is Auro’s catch-up going?

Gamma Emerald · Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:01 am

In post 1407, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Right and he shouldn't be making it personal at all.

Regardless of whether I had a grudge or not, I don't (and if I did why would I wait 56 pages before pushing it?) he shouldn't be making it personal.

Do my posts towards Somnus at the start of the game look like I hold a grudge? What's happened is Somnus' ego has got hurt and he has decided to make a personal attack.

Why are you acting like Somnus is a liability then? I admit I’ve made similar posts in other games and kinda in this one, and they were VERY personal, because I was addressing players I felt like we’re preying on my good nature and through that feeding one of my insecurities.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:02 am

In post 1379, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Most of their posts are needless and witless rabble, seemingly only for the hell of it. Just skim over their ISO and you'll see what I mean.

This is a “big if true” comment because I think this description resembles Enchant’s scumgame

Gamma Emerald · Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:05 am

In post 1413, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I didn't say he was a liability, I said he wasn't doing a lot to help town and therefore wouldn't be a big loss. Do you disagree?

Everybody makes those sort of posts all of the time.

I’ll let Somnus tell if I’m right or wrong but I’ll bet he got slammed with an irl issue that was unexpected and likely transient
So his current contribution is lacking but in the hopefully near future it should improve

Gamma Emerald · Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:06 am

Also I’m not gonna go further on that point.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:09 am

Ask for a status update pls

Gamma Emerald · Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:35 am

In post 1420, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:
In post 1412, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1379, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Most of their posts are needless and witless rabble, seemingly only for the hell of it. Just skim over their ISO and you'll see what I mean.
This is a “big if true” comment because I think this description resembles Enchant’s scumgame
Do you think he’s scum here Gamma? I know that he’s one of the slots that you’re pretty decent at reading.

Anyway

UNVOTE:

I don’t think Jake is scum anymore.

I’m less dubious on Jake but I’m still dubious.

In post 1421, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:
In post 1419, Gamma Emerald wrote:Ask for a status update pls
Is that to me? What’s a status update?

Yeah. Basically just ask what page he’s on.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Aug 17, 2022 1:10 pm

Gamma Emerald · Wed Aug 17, 2022 1:49 pm

In post 1452, Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 1395, NorwegianboyEE wrote:No wonder this game is hard to solve, there’s nobody normal!
This is the open queue :lol

glad I'm not the only one who read it that way!

Gamma Emerald · Wed Aug 17, 2022 2:26 pm

In post 1464, Somnus wrote:
In post 1459, Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 1454, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
In post 1439, Bellaphant wrote: @nm, some reads please?
Would you mind, NM?

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wanted

to nitpick I could call it potentially going with thread temperature but it feels distinct enough that the critique doesn't feel apt.
NM's play is a lungful of fresh air

Gamma Emerald · Thu Aug 18, 2022 8:54 am

In post 1195, Something_Smart wrote:

Replacing GoldfishFromTheMoon.

Is this still happening?

Gamma Emerald · Thu Aug 18, 2022 9:54 am

Btw I favor the Enchant wagon after looking at Enchant’s ISO

Gamma Emerald · Thu Aug 18, 2022 1:04 pm

In post 1553, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
In post 1551, Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 1549, Enchant wrote:
In post 1540, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Gonna keep voting Enchant because this is unacceptable and i don’t see them changing.
You know that mafia is not about killing people on which you are pissed, but about killing mafia, right?
Porque no los dos
What?

He’s saying you can be pissy w a scum player

Gamma Emerald · Fri Aug 19, 2022 2:55 pm

Who do you think is scum rn, Nancy?

Gamma Emerald · Fri Aug 19, 2022 3:37 pm

In post 1654, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:Unless Enchant has drastically switched up his scumgame, his making posts like “99% wrong”, questioning if another player is town are things I don’t recall seeing from past Enchant scumgames. Do you disagree? @Gamma.

I don’t really read Enchant on content, I read him on vibes. He’s given me more of a scum vibe than a town vibe but if the data supports your theory I’m willing to go with it. But unless a suspect comes up that’s better than either of Jake/Enchant, I’d rather vote out Enchant today because I feel like leaving Jake alive might tell us more if he is scum.

Gamma Emerald · Fri Aug 19, 2022 3:51 pm

Well, he posted legitimate thought on the content that was around before he was in the game. If he continues doing so with future content, that can be read into to find partners presumably.

Gamma Emerald · Sat Aug 20, 2022 3:42 am

I think Enchant’s posting on the last page is kinda bad

Gamma Emerald · Sat Aug 20, 2022 6:46 am

In post 1688, Enchant wrote:
In post 1684, Gamma Emerald wrote:I think Enchant’s posting on the last page is kinda bad
So all previous posting was average or good or bad?

Why you not take some time to rate all pages with my posts from "Good" too "Bad"?

I’ll say in general it ranges from average to bad

Gamma Emerald · Sat Aug 20, 2022 8:03 am

In post 1693, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Gamma, Nancy, and Friend, What are your current reasons for not voting?

Don’t want to push a wagon too close to elim before Kop gives some content

Gamma Emerald · Sat Aug 20, 2022 8:12 am

Enchant

Gamma Emerald · Sat Aug 20, 2022 8:44 am

In post 1657, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:
In post 1656, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1654, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:Unless Enchant has drastically switched up his scumgame, his making posts like “99% wrong”, questioning if another player is town are things I don’t recall seeing from past Enchant scumgames. Do you disagree? @Gamma.
I don’t really read Enchant on content, I read him on vibes. He’s given me more of a scum vibe than a town vibe but if the data supports your theory I’m willing to go with it. But unless a suspect comes up that’s better than either of Jake/Enchant, I’d rather vote out Enchant today because I feel like leaving Jake alive might tell us more if he is scum.
Well, I can only go from Anything uPick, Chromavalon and PYP and don’t recall any of the types of posts I just mentioned.

So this is one of the main reasons a goldfish replace in would be great because how I read that slot would possibly tell us a lot about Enchant.

What info do you think you’d get from a scum!Jake?

What about Terminator?

Gamma Emerald · Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:51 am

I see Kop is at least posting content rn

Gamma Emerald · Mon Aug 22, 2022 5:18 am

VOTE: Jake
Whatever

Gamma Emerald · Mon Aug 22, 2022 5:49 am

In post 1834, Somnus wrote:
In post 1832, Enchant wrote:I won't miss you.
Unnecessary.

Speak for yourself.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Aug 24, 2022 10:07 am

I’m just gonna say it
That’s a weird ass kill.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Aug 24, 2022 1:18 pm

I feel like it’s possible
I still don’t rlly trust enchant and the gamestate there would be weird if enchant was town, unless the scum piled on Enchant kinda early

Gamma Emerald · Wed Aug 24, 2022 2:39 pm

VOTE: enchant

Gamma Emerald · Wed Aug 24, 2022 2:59 pm

In post 1878, Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 1858, Gamma Emerald wrote:I’m just gonna say it
That’s a weird ass kill.
Really, I thought Nancy was pretty universally townread

there was a post that felt unequivocably towny but that only really makes sense to be latched onto by me and maybe encanto and/or penguinpower
the posting to jake at EoD2 was not good at all though.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Aug 24, 2022 3:27 pm

In post 1889, Not_Mafia wrote:If Penguin is scum then the third is Enchant, Pengion only switches to Jake there if the scumteam was committed to the bus from the beginning. There's at least one bus vote as I doubt all 3 scum just sat on Enchant and BBT's and Gamma's votes look the worst

In post 1891, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 1889, Not_Mafia wrote:If Penguin is scum then the third is Enchant, Pengion only switches to Jake there if the scumteam was committed to the bus from the beginning. There's at least one bus vote as I doubt all 3 scum just sat on Enchant and BBT's and Gamma's votes look the worst
counterpoint - gamma and i could have coasted to no elim easily with no activity.

I was gonna comment something like what NM said regarding penguin being town for flipping but I realized that is kinda bogus theory after Friends and Enemies just happened!

Gamma Emerald · Wed Aug 24, 2022 3:34 pm

why does BBT's vote look bad to you, NM? I don't need to ask about mine because I'm pretty sure of why.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Aug 24, 2022 3:36 pm

scum got yeeted D1, I assumed the wagon was pure, and I was dead wrong

Gamma Emerald · Wed Aug 24, 2022 3:55 pm

In post 1875, Gamma Emerald wrote:I feel like it’s possible
I still don’t rlly trust enchant and the gamestate there would be weird if enchant was town, unless the scum piled on Enchant kinda early

I kinda feel like my idea about scum piling onto enchant might be valid? So I don't really feel like a bus is certain.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Aug 24, 2022 4:36 pm

In post 1915, Somnus wrote:I don't think the Nancy and Friends slot was a weird kill at all. Their voting history was...not great, but as was pointed out, they were mostly town-read. I think if I were mafia, my only realistic choices there are the hydra, myself, or Not_mafia.

In post 1299, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:
I’m town and I will prove that.
And laugh all you want, but I read this as a sincere cop claim. Yes, it's something literally anyone could have said, but it felt genuine to me. Maybe mafia read it the way I did. I dunno. Either way, it was a widely town-read slot.

In post 1916, Somnus wrote:Not to be unoriginal, but I agree with literally every take Not_Mafia has had these last couple of pages. I can expand more after digging through ISOs, but just looking through votes, particularly EOD, I think Gamma [...] should be heavily under the radar today.

these feel incongruous

also ig bella/norwee/jake isn't that likely but I could see jake/kop/bella or norwee being possible

Gamma Emerald · Thu Aug 25, 2022 7:48 pm

In post 1929, Enchant wrote:I too don't care about game, let's just vote Gamma, ok?

Will you self-vote when I flip town?

Gamma Emerald · Thu Aug 25, 2022 7:56 pm

You just admitted I’m gonna flip town!

Gamma Emerald · Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:22 pm

Gamma Emerald · Fri Aug 26, 2022 12:48 am

In post 1937, Enchant wrote:Don't ... on me you ... if you even ... on me ... again i will ... do you understand that?

Who’s more likely to be legitimately wrong: scum or town? Honest question.

Gamma Emerald · Fri Aug 26, 2022 9:39 am

oh I kinda just had the nancy kill click for me after I remembered froggo was jake's predecessor

Gamma Emerald · Fri Aug 26, 2022 9:51 am

In post 1954, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 258, Bellaphant wrote:@bbt, fair, I need to stop relying so hard on inference: I think I'm being obvious and then get surprised when people don't get it. I wasn't trying to be offensive though - I do think you do things that people see as being 'from scum ' as town and vice versa, and I have always assumed it's a little bit on purpose, because of your sig. I also said I think a lot of it is aggression, though - or forcefulness/purpose - you do want to get shit done as either alignment.

Re pocketing, I am going to be non commital and say sort of: in cultists I was mainly handling you with kid gloves, because rolling first scum in ages with you town was scary. I think in other games it might be easy for scum!Bella to pocket bbt for the same reason it's intially easy for scum!bbt to pocket Bella - we do tend to have similar thoughts at times, and I'm certainly trying to learn to make my scum game feel more like my town game by giving my actual thoughts - I got snowed recently by scum! lukewarm saying stuff that couksbe been from my brain but he was scum!
Ok, but why start mentioning how you were thinking of improving your scumgame suddenly?

I think Bella actually manages to put a good pin on how BBT plays, while we're here

Gamma Emerald · Fri Aug 26, 2022 9:57 am

Encanto is literally Spanish for Enchant
maybe not an exact translation but it's also fun to call him that after I watched that movie

Gamma Emerald · Fri Aug 26, 2022 10:18 am

In post 1961, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 726, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 706, froggodoggo wrote:
In post 576, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Also what is this style i’m seeing from Gamma.
All Gamma does is say "gross post", "off vibes", "bad"
Like there is no substance at all.
i'm assuming that's just gamma's playstyle, but the one game i played with them they were SK and a mafia was TRing them d1 for meta. i have no qualms with gamma's play rn tho
Pretty sure that player was trying to pocket me.
Is this is reference to Frog? Interesting, if so i think this is pretty town-telling for you.

frog was in that game but it wasn't him who tried to pocket me

Gamma Emerald · Fri Aug 26, 2022 10:25 am

In post 1959, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 1950, Gamma Emerald wrote:oh I kinda just had the nancy kill click for me after I remembered froggo was jake's predecessor
What did you realize?

I don't wanna directly mention specific posts but froggo's posts around Nancy would NEVER slide if they were scum partners

Gamma Emerald · Fri Aug 26, 2022 10:26 am

In post 1964, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 797, PenguinPower wrote:So 2 dead cops and 2 claimed cops. Curious to see where this goes.
@Gamma What do you think about Penguinpower so far?

I think I've been TR him but I don't wholly remember

Gamma Emerald · Fri Aug 26, 2022 4:37 pm

I’m not letting Enchant go until he starts seeing sense
I don’t really scumread him that strongly anymore but he is not playing anywhere close to rationally

Gamma Emerald · Sat Aug 27, 2022 5:49 am

In post 1987, Enchant wrote:
Gamma Emerald wrote:I’m not letting Enchant go until he starts seeing sense
I don’t really scumread him that strongly anymore but he is not playing anywhere close to rationally
Also Enchant: Two right guesses in a row.

One of which I don’t remember anything from you on until too late to matter. So 1 right guess as I see it, and fmpov you’re 1 for 2 (gonna just exclude the first one entirely)
And like, I don’t believe you actually scumread me, you’re just butthurt

Gamma Emerald · Sat Aug 27, 2022 6:24 am

UNVOTE:

Gamma Emerald · Sat Aug 27, 2022 2:14 pm

Gamma Emerald · Sun Aug 28, 2022 12:07 am

In post 2046, NorwegianboyEE wrote:So many zombies in this game.

What?

Gamma Emerald · Sun Aug 28, 2022 12:25 am

In post 2052, Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 1983, Gamma Emerald wrote:I’m not letting Enchant go until he starts seeing sense
I don’t really scumread him that strongly anymore but he is not playing anywhere close to rationally
Is a policy elim the most productive thing to be pursuing right now

You at least understand WHY I’m on Enchant’s ass, right?

Gamma Emerald · Sun Aug 28, 2022 2:56 am

In post 2068, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Gamma pushing Enchant is prob scum as well.

Elimming Gamma/Bella/Norwegian likely wins this game.

Dipshit

Gamma Emerald · Sun Aug 28, 2022 5:39 am

In post 2073, Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 2072, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2068, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Gamma pushing Enchant is prob scum as well.

Elimming Gamma/Bella/Norwegian likely wins this game.
Dipshit
Please stop with the rude namecalling We can't win if we're divided

Well no matter what Bella/Norwee flips he’s set to push me tomorrow

Gamma Emerald · Sun Aug 28, 2022 6:50 am

VOTE: BBT
I think his content is generally okay so this is just shitpush insurance (I’ll come up with a better term later)

Gamma Emerald · Sun Aug 28, 2022 9:46 am

He doesn’t come off as scum much but I am bothered by his putting me in his scum pool w Bella and you and I recently resolved to not let a push against me I seem as bad slide no matter how I read the pusher

Gamma Emerald · Tue Aug 30, 2022 11:41 am

VOTE: kop
Meh

Gamma Emerald · Wed Aug 31, 2022 7:17 am

In post 2206, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Also i've pretty much explained that your position looks like bussing, you are just repeating the same thing over and over again which is that you could have easily moved your vote. (Which in fact you did at one point), before moving at an point where Jake was already under heavy suspicion by many players and preferred to Enchant by many. You didn't save the day by limming scum!Jake yesterday, that's just the image you want to portray because the rest of your play is very lacking so you need something to live.

In post 2208, PenguinPower wrote:love your continued alternative reality and crafting a narrative to fit a preformed stance.

i'm done with you

VOTE: Penguin

Gamma Emerald · Wed Aug 31, 2022 7:18 am

In post 2223, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Also Gamma, what even are your reads right now. You're voting BBT but gave the impression it was not serious. I really think you should have some more proper reads by now so share them if you have them?

I like, really don’t

Gamma Emerald · Wed Aug 31, 2022 7:32 am

Kop slot I think might be revolving-door-scum
Penguin’s approach to interacting with Norwee feels off, like he doesn’t want to actually meet on level terms
BBT’s scumread of me feels tacked-on

Aside from Somnus, NM and Enchant might be the easiest to see as town rn

Gamma Emerald · Wed Aug 31, 2022 7:47 am

Thank you for proving me right!

Gamma Emerald · Wed Aug 31, 2022 8:14 am

In post 2252, NorwegianboyEE wrote:@Gamma
Do you know Penguin better than me maybe, do you think we should be gathering anything from these latest pages or should i pretend they didn't happen. I want to do the latter but idk.

*shrug*
I wouldn’t say I know Penguin THAT well despite our number of games together

Gamma Emerald · Wed Aug 31, 2022 2:58 pm

VOTE: kop

Gamma Emerald · Wed Aug 31, 2022 4:39 pm

In post 2267, PenguinPower wrote:2022 - when Not_mafia became my favorite player on site.

Kinda thought he already was
…no that was A50
But I recall you liking NM somewhat

Gamma Emerald · Thu Sep 01, 2022 6:21 am

In post 2270, Bellaphant wrote:My problem is that none of the three people who moved their vote weirdly at the end of the day (pp, gamma and bbt) are acknowledging that the wagon moved fast, that it would've been an opportune bus, etc. Especially bbt, who's decided instead that there has to be scum on the other wagon, which feels convenient.

@gamma, talk to me about your vote?

my jake vote or my kop vote?

Gamma Emerald · Thu Sep 01, 2022 6:26 am

In post 1828, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: Jake
Whatever

I honestly understand being sussed for this but nancy drew was kinda not giving me much to work with (tbh my play has kinda been joined at the hip to her which is why I've been lost today), she was calling enchant town despite me still thinking enchant was sus and nancy having said she trusts my read there, and she was unable to think of any other suspects so at this point I was like "let's just end the day and maybe new ideas will come about once some more flips occur"

Gamma Emerald · Thu Sep 01, 2022 9:36 am

In post 2284, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 2235, Gamma Emerald wrote:Kop slot I think might be revolving-door-scum
What does this mean? I never heard this term before.

it's a slot that has basically no impact on the game either by getting chronically replaced or the inhabitant(s) just constantly lurking

Gamma Emerald · Thu Sep 01, 2022 9:37 am

In post 2286, Enchant wrote:Ik Kop is last town cop mafia will claim doctors afterwards
Do sometging with it

what does this mean?

Gamma Emerald · Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:49 pm

Doubt it

Gamma Emerald · Fri Sep 02, 2022 12:47 am

In post 2292, Bellaphant wrote:@ gamma, the cop vote. I think out of the three votes that I found Sus on Jake, bbts was the worst at the time Ans the worst in hindsight.

@penguin, thanks!

I don't think enchants was a slip, I think it was a general theory thing? They seem to have their head around set up quite well.
I wish I had more thoughts on kop.

The main idea is that slot seems impossible to resolve without either wasting a cop shot or killing it off, and Kop is a claimed n1 cop so the mechanical utility of the slot has passed
Like, Kop doesn’t exactly feel interested in being readable and scum aren’t gonna kill him like ever as a result.

Gamma Emerald · Fri Sep 02, 2022 12:49 am

In post 2294, Enchant wrote:(Kop!maf will lose on massclaim almost guarantee).

How

Gamma Emerald · Fri Sep 02, 2022 9:36 am

In post 2298, Enchant wrote:
In post 2296, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2294, Enchant wrote:(Kop!maf will lose on massclaim almost guarantee).
How
So uh.
If Kop is mafia, then there must be other Cop to hit minumum quota. Maybe even more.

If only one maf remains, we can 100% believe in Cop checks.

Mafia have nowhere to hide.

??????

Profitz

Your argument is not convincing.