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Will be on late tonight and post catch-up thoughts then. Long as fuck day.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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I am waaaaaaaaaay too tipsy tonight and my catch up post didn't make sense to me. I swear I am doing it late tomorrow though. (I have Shadowrun in the morning.)ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Nope not a cannibal. I had pizza before I replaced in. I townread the piggy so I'm vegan this game.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Northsidegal but you're making piggy look appetizing for lynching with sk huntingScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Advantage tipsy math As I had already read just no catch postIn post 566, Porkens wrote:Skim and find sk with tipsy powers goScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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to tell you the truth implies northsidegal has something to hide. I want them to say everything they wanted to say..In post 559, northsidegal wrote:
to tell you the truth i townread that rationale pretty hard. how would knowing the sk has 1 shot bulletproof change your strat, or is that rolefishing / better left unsaid?In post 558, Porkens wrote:It felt right to burst on to the thread in a really obvious/over the top way. I didn't thoroughly read the setup, and knowing that the sk had nightfall immunity would have changed strategy. But by then I had already committed.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Needs more content or they may be a cannibal. Feed me reads diet and reasons diet.
you too Porkens.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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I am gonna have sads if three townies died.
I really think that two or three townies died. Just need to look at key here and make a judgment call on that.
With three kills and limited activity afterwards implies killers active. North side gal leaving this out of the assessment makes me really scared about north.
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It's more I don't see a person being inactive hopping off doing a kill then not posting in game. That's in very poor taste. This means that of the likely players this means that they are at least active pre and/or post flip. I don't see scum just mystically disappearing after a kill. In my experience that hasn't happened from scum. So since we have three kills submitted then why disappear after you got what you wanted. Scum would need to maintain that control. Hence scum are much more likely in the actives rather than the inactives. Especially with vocal voices like A50 and Transcend dead.In post 578, northsidegal wrote:
i don't put a lot of weight into "slips" or just linguistic quirks like that, and i don't think you should either. i said "to tell you the truth" because although i would think that either to other people or just looking at it on a surface level porkens' reasoning is rather weak, i've seen people use that exact same strategy as scumhunting before and i recognize the reasonIn post 569, MathBlade wrote:
to tell you the truth implies northsidegal has something to hide. I want them to say everything they wanted to say..In post 559, northsidegal wrote:
to tell you the truth i townread that rationale pretty hard. how would knowing the sk has 1 shot bulletproof change your strat, or is that rolefishing / better left unsaid?In post 558, Porkens wrote:It felt right to burst on to the thread in a really obvious/over the top way. I didn't thoroughly read the setup, and knowing that the sk had nightfall immunity would have changed strategy. But by then I had already committed.whyit makes sense.
I do and sometimes don't. If the player is a more "off the cuff" type player who rapid posts and is very much stream of consciousness I let it go. However your posts take a lot more of an analytical stance which means since you're much more of a careful player I do consider it for your posts.
could you explain this a bit more? if i'm not wrong we have 48 hour night phases and i'm pretty sure this one was made even longer by the lack of a replacement. why would the killers be active just after the night ends if they had 48 hours to submit their kills?In post 577, MathBlade wrote:I am gonna have sads if three townies died.
I really think that two or three townies died. Just need to look at key here and make a judgment call on that.
With three kills and limited activity afterwards implies killers active. North side gal leaving this out of the assessment makes me really scared about north.
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My notes got erased but mainly I'm pretty sure what Northgal either missed or pretended to miss and why Almost50 was killed. And well that's not...good.In post 182, Almost50 wrote:@northsidegal: Little lady (judging by the avatar no more), I'm good because I'm good and I don't need to convince you of it. I always have difficulties convincing newbies like yourself when they play with me the first time. Those who know me in this game are Transcend, Not_Mafia & PMysterious. I don't think I've played with anyone else before (unless someone is a secret alt), but that's irrelevant .. kind of.
What is relevant is this: You won't be lynching me today. Period. Try looking somewhere else as to not waste your time and effort. You may as well shoot me at night or wait for D2 to get your desired lynch through, but today I'm well out of your reach unless I myself allow it.
P.S. The above is the most arrogant declaration I have ever made in a Mafia game so far I think. Try to prove me wrong for future reference.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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So a huge if but if I'm right and Almost50 was town vig then Almost50 almost certainly shot Key.
This means the Transcend and Almost50 kills were scum and the SK respectively.
This means that Transcend and Almost 50 were fear kills.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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I didn't say Almost50 was pushing your lynch and so you shot him. I said that's what happened with scum.In post 586, northsidegal wrote:
i can see what you're saying regarding the second part of your post but for the first part you haven't really given a really good reason, so i still disagree. when it comes to the post count or activity point though, you came to the opposite concusion that i did. two of the three dead were among the most active posters, so rather than scum attempting to dominate the conversation themselves i think it's far more likely they want to take advantage of the lurkers. it was even noticed yesterday how so many people hadn't really added a lot to the game, so to me it seems like scum are either in within the lurkers or setting the lurkers up for the fall, and either way they're attempting to use the lack of activity to their advantage.In post 583, MathBlade wrote: It's more I don't see a person being inactive hopping off doing a kill then not posting in game. That's in very poor taste. This means that of the likely players this means that they are at least active pre and/or post flip. I don't see scum just mystically disappearing after a kill. In my experience that hasn't happened from scum. So since we have three kills submitted then why disappear after you got what you wanted. Scum would need to maintain that control. Hence scum are much more likely in the actives rather than the inactives. Especially with vocal voices like A50 and Transcend dead.
i responded in 185 and let me tell you - even if i was scum i wouldn't be scared of almost's attempts to push my lynch.In post 584, MathBlade wrote:
My notes got erased but mainly I'm pretty sure what Northgal either missed or pretended to miss and why Almost50 was killed. And well that's not...good.In post 182, Almost50 wrote:@northsidegal: Little lady (judging by the avatar no more), I'm good because I'm good and I don't need to convince you of it. I always have difficulties convincing newbies like yourself when they play with me the first time. Those who know me in this game are Transcend, Not_Mafia & PMysterious. I don't think I've played with anyone else before (unless someone is a secret alt), but that's irrelevant .. kind of.
What is relevant is this: You won't be lynching me today. Period. Try looking somewhere else as to not waste your time and effort. You may as well shoot me at night or wait for D2 to get your desired lynch through, but today I'm well out of your reach unless I myself allow it.
P.S. The above is the most arrogant declaration I have ever made in a Mafia game so far I think. Try to prove me wrong for future reference.
I said Almost50 was a fear kill from scum. So you're probably the SK then. Got it. Cool.
Pedit: I don't believe that and I strongly believe it to be a joke either that or Porkens is scum.
Pedit again: Almost likely shot keychain because it is a common vig trope to vote who you are gonna shoot. It's a verifiable bread crumb later.
Second: It depends. Mainly in a game like this yes. If they feel they can't survive they have to kill the person pushing them sometimes. It depends on the competency of the player killed. Despite Transcend's and my style of play differences Transcend is regarded as a good player same with A50. That makes them much more likely fear kills.
pedit 3: Or that if they saw what I did but then only newb group scum would push the vig. SK wouldn't want attention.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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With Transcend and Almost50 both suspecting Key I'm pretty damn certain Key was scum.In post 531, Transcend wrote:If I'm still alive tomorrow which i doubt because i reckon both sk and mafia will kill me let's double team KeychainScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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So then mainly what I need to do is a minor vote analysis in that specific point to see why a Key wagon didn't pick up and what specifically got vocal around that timeframe.
(Oh and FYI I love flipless scum do stupid shit in flipless...I'm actually halfway decent town in a flipless...Shhhhhhhhh apparently it's a big mafiascum secret and I like am sucky or something)ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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I said it was a possibility. Not the likely probability. I still suspect you as being the SK. Group scum is a possibility but not as likely.In post 591, northsidegal wrote:In post 588, MathBlade wrote:I didn't say Almost50 was pushing your lynch and so you shot him. I said that's what happened with scum.
so if that's not what you're saying, then what exactly are you saying here? your sentence is a little hard to understand. even more, it's not exactly a huge leap to look at you mentioning me possibly intentionally ignoring something and the reason why almost died in one sentence and to take it that you're implying i killed him.MathBlade wrote:
My notes got erased but mainly I'm pretty sure what Northgal either missed or pretended to miss and why Almost50 was killed. And well that's not...good.In post 182, Almost50 wrote:@northsidegal: Little lady (judging by the avatar no more), I'm good because I'm good and I don't need to convince you of it. I always have difficulties convincing newbies like yourself when they play with me the first time. Those who know me in this game are Transcend, Not_Mafia & PMysterious. I don't think I've played with anyone else before (unless someone is a secret alt), but that's irrelevant .. kind of.
What is relevant is this: You won't be lynching me today. Period. Try looking somewhere else as to not waste your time and effort. You may as well shoot me at night or wait for D2 to get your desired lynch through, but today I'm well out of your reach unless I myself allow it.
P.S. The above is the most arrogant declaration I have ever made in a Mafia game so far I think. Try to prove me wrong for future reference.
I was referring to almost50 being the vig most likely. There's a hugely blatant vig crumb there and I'd be very much surprised if anyone else is actually the town vig. Mainly I'm trying to ascertain whether you generally missed it or whether or not you're scum/SK and pretending. Especially when I suggested fear kills and then said "hey probably not that probably because they were the vig" despite me offering no reasoning why and most people on the site call my role spec crazy. (Although recently I've been on a streak with that. See the newbie game I recently IC'd and we lost because well newb town decided not to listen lol and I have to work on my influence skills)
You can't both say you missed the vig and say that's why A50 was killed in the same breath.
It's either A50 is a fear kill or A50 was killed for being the likely vig.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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First of all on the second paragraph the idea that Almost could be thinking Transcend is the SK doesn't hold up is bad. Almost could have had thought that and been wrong. However here I doubt it. Almost to be quite honest I don't think has enough experience with Transcend to read him. The simple answer is: if he's antitown and annoys you he's town just ignore him til he tries to be nice. {{Transcend if you read this I'm sorry for if this comes off rude but not the main point....}}In post 592, northsidegal wrote:
is that just an argument from both of them being good players? besides, almost's scumread on key was predicated on the idea that transcend was also scum. if you take it that both of them suspecting key makes her scum you would also be saying that transcend was bussing his partner. which, ironically he said in 261:In post 589, MathBlade wrote:
With Transcend and Almost50 both suspecting Key I'm pretty damn certain Key was scum.In post 531, Transcend wrote:If I'm still alive tomorrow which i doubt because i reckon both sk and mafia will kill me let's double team Keychain
of course, it's possible that one of them was the serial killer and so even though the scumread was predicated on trasncend being scum, they still could've been a part of different factions. that idea doesn't hold up, however, because we know that the serial killer hasn't died.In post 261, Transcend wrote:Because I'm bussing my shit partner lol
Furthermore, no I wouldn't. That actually makes Transcend town with a scumread on Key.
Transcend hard claimed scum in mini 1900 and I tunnelled him literally to a town loss for it. He jokes around claiming scum all the time and it pisses me off. He was trying to goad almost50 into voting key who he genuinely thought was scum.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Your pool sucks and needs cleaning.In post 580, Porkens wrote:Not_Mafia*
Assemblerotws*
havingfitz - sheepsaysmeep
northsidegal
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Gödel
MathBlade - Elmo TeH AzN
Porkens - Maki Harukawa
Looks like no Robocop.
I'd like the following people:
Nsg
Mathblade
Porkens
Not mafia
Havingfitz
To choose a lynch from this pool:
Godel
Pmsteryous
Assembler
My pool is North you and NotMafia and assemble. However the latter two baaaaaaaaaaaaaarely have their fingers in and that's because they haven't done jack and could be scum lurking but again that's in so poor taste I only want to go there if I townread literally every other player.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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If a50 was the vig, his flip gets sucked by whoever shot him. Hence no flip. His shot would go to the cannibal who killed him. Ask the mod.In post 595, Porkens wrote:If a50 was the big, the person he ate would flip.
You have one more post before to turn yourself around.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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I don't clear them perse I just suspect both you and porkens more. I don't "clear" anyone.In post 600, northsidegal wrote:
why do you clear godel and pmyst? why do you scumread porkens?In post 596, MathBlade wrote:My pool is North you and NotMafia and assemble. However the latter two baaaaaaaaaaaaaarely have their fingers in and that's because they haven't done jack and could be scum lurking but again that's in so poor taste I only want to go there if I townread literally every other player.
I scumread porkens because porkens play is hella weird and because his pool is terribad. He is asking you questions and not following up.
Pedit: Porkens I don't believe you. Who are you claiming to shoot and why?ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Oh no..I read your joke posts at the start of the game. I believe you're trying to attract an NK or an evil cannibal not the town vig.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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And if you are the town vig you'd answer the questions north and I asked.
I'm quite wondering if this game is just solved and it's north and porkens. North being group scum with key and porkens being the SK and almost 50 and key is in porkens belly and north has transcends remains.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Oh you're trying to imply it's only based on what I have seen. I guarantee you I have read this thread and am entirely caught up and it's on all of it. Getting your question in a sec.In post 607, northsidegal wrote:
consider how you're scumreading the more active people and certainly the only people who have been active today. don't you think it's likely you're making large conclusions just based on what you've seen rather than the entire gamestate?In post 605, MathBlade wrote:And if you are the town vig you'd answer the questions north and I asked.
I'm quite wondering if this game is just solved and it's north and porkens. North being group scum with key and porkens being the SK and almost 50 and key is in porkens belly and north has transcends remains.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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A) I didn't flip ANYTHING I was janitored.In post 608, Porkens wrote:A winner is you!
VOTE: mathblade
In that crazy fountain game, math, I replaced in and town read you so fucking hard that when you flipped scum, I KNEW your flip had been tampered with.
This game, not at all.
B) You aren't townreading me because I scumread you.
C) If you were the town vig you'd actually give TOWN the info here of who you killed and their alignment.
Reason being if scum believe you and you're the vig you're dead
and if scum don't believe you then you get more time to operate and shoot scum.
D) Knowing what someone's alignment was makes it infinitely easier to put this puzzle together. And if you're ever wrong on an alignment you become policy.
So who'd you kill? Why? And what were they?ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Again...This was a joke.In post 556, Porkens wrote:I ate transcend cause I thought he was crummy and irritatingly non contributor. He was vanilla. Still delicious.
I'm waiting for porkens to tell the truth. Because I don't believe porkens.
And if porkens was an actual vig porkens would just eat me. However Porkens isn't a vig and is scum so Porkens has to push me.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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LOL This is a crock. No decent SK/scum ever shoots keychain.In post 612, northsidegal wrote:so here are my stream of consciousness thoughts about the nightkills, taking into account the new information. among keychain and a50, one was the mafia shot and one was the serial killer shot. i just can't see any serial killer motivation for killing a50, whereas if i consider the scenario where the sk killed keychain, godel's name jumps into my mind immediately. that slot just moved a lot more down the list for me. then, if we're to take it that the sk shot keychain, mafia shot a50. i'm not entirely sure why this would happen so it casts doubt in my mind if this is the case. possibilities for who as mafia would want a50 dead would be a mafia keychain and... can't really think of anyone else. i'll definitely have to think about this a bit more.
this is all assuming, of course, that porkens is telling the truth.
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Yes I do scumread porkens for the odd play.In post 615, northsidegal wrote:
wait, what are you trying to say here? you've said that you scumread porkens for the odd play, but aren't you saying here yourself that it makes sense for porkens to act so unorthox about being the vig? all of the baiting makes a lot more sense now. if scum don't believe porkens, she should be able to stay alive longer. also, you have to forgive me if i don't really understand how your reasoning supports your assertion. the two things seem pretty unrelated, to me. like, that reasoning would actually support porkens lying about her info, because then it'd be like hypoclaiming - scum would think porkens is lying if she said she shot the person that scum actually shot (given that we know there were three separate kills).In post 611, MathBlade wrote:C) If you were the town vig you'd actually give TOWN the info here of who you killed and their alignment.
Reason being if scum believe you and you're the vig you're dead
and if scum don't believe you then you get more time to operate and shoot scum.
I'm not saying anything about making sense to be unorthodox.
I'm asking porkens to be orthodox.
At this point if porkens is the vig he's outed. That means to give as much info as possible because if scum believe porkens porkens is dead.
So the simple answer is to be upfront and honest about who porkens shot and why.
There's literally nothing I can find in porkens iso that supports shooting transcend.
However ironically enough I do believe porkens shot transcend if they were telling the truth just they aren't the town vig IMHO.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Because my being eaten or my flip implicates porkens way too much.In post 617, northsidegal wrote:
why wouldn't scum porkens also just eat you?In post 614, MathBlade wrote:And if porkens was an actual vig porkens would just eat me. However Porkens isn't a vig and is scum so Porkens has to push me.
Porkens wants me to shut the fuck up and tries to intimidate me with a vote but apparently porkens hasn't seen a math tunnel.
Because porkens is going down and we are winning this game.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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And guess what I am town and you are scum!In post 619, Porkens wrote:I swear to god you flipped scum in that game. I have a vivid memory of it. But it's not there now, so...huh.
Here are the notes I had for it:
VOTE COUNT 1 . 19
XnadrojX ------ 3 ( Nahdia, JaeReed, Lil Uzi Vert, Purple Nurple, Impoetic ) L- 2
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RadiantCowbells osuka* Section 9 (Hydra of Zachstralkita and kraska77) Mathblade was town AF
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You are right. muh bad. still, I knew you were town anyway. and I was right!ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Here Almost50 claims vig.In post 176, Almost50 wrote:
You know what's wrong with this? It's the fact that id if it isIn post 172, Keychain wrote:You try and refute the fact that you scumread (or cannibalread ) the players that questioned your thought process, then follow it up by doing exactly that.truethen I'm definitelynot a cannibal. And you know what that means? It means I'mdefinitely not scum. You know why? Because, so I cannot be a non-cannibal and still be scum at the same time.all scum are cannibals
But I feel like I've done a good job exposing all scumsters in one go through my behaviour, so I don't mind eating rope tofay in order to get the VIG IN PARTICULAR to follow my reads.
Irrelevant:
@Comm: Did you have to be the mod in this game? We seem to need agood vigin the block, my friend.
In the case Porkens is the vig and Transcend was a vanilla kill then the SK has to shoot Almost 50 because they'd be mafia.
However I highly doubt that because if Porkens was the vig Porkens shoots Almost50 here without a doubt.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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There's no chance Porkens who claims to be vig misses Almost50's vig claim. None.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Hence why Porkens claiming to shoot Transcend is a crock.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Because there's only one vig and that'd be you.In post 628, Porkens wrote:Why would I kill the guy softing vig?
Then again you're not town so you're not thinking like town.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Instead your last votes and posts are about PMsterious and UCVoyager. Transcend was a vote in there but not nearly enough to support a vig shot.In post 512, Porkens wrote:Convince me you aren't the skScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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No. Absolutely not. Porkens should not be acting unorthodox at all. The time to be unorthodox wasIn post 630, northsidegal wrote:
right, and what i'm saying is that porkensIn post 618, MathBlade wrote: Yes I do scumread porkens for the odd play.
I'm not saying anything about making sense to be unorthodox.
I'm asking porkens to be orthodox.shouldbe acting unorthodox - the theatrics clearly cast doubt on the claim as evidenced by your disbelief, so if scum don't believe porkens then she lives another day.
ah, i see what you're saying - if porkens was the vigilante then rather than voting you today she'd just save you for the nightkill, right? hmm... makes sense, but i feel like it's a simplification. after all, the vigilante presumably still votes a person they scumread during the day, correct? there's no reason they couldn't both vote someone they scumread and choose another scumread for the nightkill.In post 620, MathBlade wrote:
Because my being eaten or my flip implicates porkens way too much.In post 617, northsidegal wrote:
why wouldn't scum porkens also just eat you?In post 614, MathBlade wrote:And if porkens was an actual vig porkens would just eat me. However Porkens isn't a vig and is scum so Porkens has to push me.
Porkens wants me to shut the fuck up and tries to intimidate me with a vote but apparently porkens hasn't seen a math tunnel.
Because porkens is going down and we are winning this game.beforeshe claimed.
She absolutely lost that right when she didn't kill the player crumbing vig and then claiming vig with an absolutely atrocious kill in the case she is the vig.
If she is the vig and then SK killed Almost50 and mafia killed keychain (again why??? it's literally silly at that point as keychain was under a fuck ton of pressure) then the SK or mafia will shoot her simply because the number of bodies is piling up. They cannot afford to not shoot her and take the claim seriously.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Even if you make that argument, transcend wasn't one of those players.In post 632, northsidegal wrote:there were a lot of people who talked about the vig shot in ways that could be interpreted as soft claims - taken alone, i'm not sure there's any reason to put more faith in one over the other.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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However Almost50 I'm almost certain was the vig and shot keychain. If I was allowed to bet I seriously would.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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However what we do know is under threat of policy Porkens almost certainly told us the truth and that Transcend was a vanilla.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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In post 514, Keychain wrote:... I don't understand why that wasn't hammer?
In post 433, CommKnight wrote:In post 453, PMysterious wrote:
Being forced to claim day one, that implies that you were acting scummy in that game, and I don't need to read in order to figure that one out. I remember being in your shoes, but that's mostly because I overreacted in every case this occurs in. Since Trans doesn't seem like the likely lynch today and UC was on my list of scummy people, its best to get the most scummy player out of the way.In post 449, UC Voyager wrote:town game
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I was Non consecutive jail keeper
I was forced to claim day one...and was killed night one
VOTE: UC Voyager That should be L-1.Assemblerotws, Elmo TeH AzN, northsidegal, Gödel, Porkens, PMysterious and Transcend makes 7 to lynch, and I didn't see any unvotes. Where am I miscounting? Also welcome Fitz!
Assuming it's not twilight:
VOTE: Transcend
Since nobody's going to lynch Goedel today are they
Yeah.Transcend wrote:Because i tried to lol hammer and they think it's a scum gesture
It seemed very much like a combination of hammering a townie and yet in the followup still trying to reap the towncred for a correct read for the next day like in 491. Trying to avoid blame. Win-win situation for scum, harder to understand from town. PM was at least voting a scumread. I think I could also vote A50 for avoiding commenting on the whole thing.
Oh hey you're in this game still trying to lynch easy targets huhNot_Mafia wrote:Lynch assembler
PEdit: wowjesus
Oooh maybe it's Porkens and Key and just north is SK or derp town? I don't see how Porkens shoots Transcend here at all with the dead townie FoS'ing transcend. That's bullshit. A push on Transcend was possible unless keychain was scum and it'd look weird coming from the partner.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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VOTE: Porkens
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no your point doesn't still stand.In post 638, northsidegal wrote:
i was about to make a point to the effect of "the fact that you still don't believe her means that if she is telling the truth, there's still a chance scum don't believe her", but then i thought about it a bit more. assuming that no killing role died and thus in each killer's larder there is only one body (just because it would complicate things), scum would know if porkens is lying if she claimed the same kill as them. if that's not the case, then there's still a doubt in both the serial killer and in mafia's mind as to whether or not she's telling the truth, so i think my point still stands.In post 633, MathBlade wrote: No. Absolutely not. Porkens should not be acting unorthodox at all. The time to be unorthodox wasbeforeshe claimed.
She absolutely lost that right when she didn't kill the player crumbing vig and then claiming vig with an absolutely atrocious kill in the case she is the vig.
If she is the vig and then SK killed Almost50 and mafia killed keychain (again why??? it's literally silly at that point as keychain was under a fuck ton of pressure) then the SK or mafia will shoot her simply because the number of bodies is piling up. They cannot afford to not shoot her and take the claim seriously.
are you taking almost's 176 as a vig claim? i don't interpret it that way at all. also, he was one of those players.In post 634, MathBlade wrote:
Even if you make that argument, transcend wasn't one of those players.In post 632, northsidegal wrote:there were a lot of people who talked about the vig shot in ways that could be interpreted as soft claims - taken alone, i'm not sure there's any reason to put more faith in one over the other.
In post 516, Transcend wrote:not hammer*
also keychain gets vigged @vig
no exceptions
she is scum
i have her pinned down for sure
Three bodies a night.
Assuming Porkens is town (hahahahahahahahahaha comedy hour), if three bodies fall again tonight and Porkens is still alive then Porkens is literally the one player that can make this a town win instead of a scum clusterfuck. There is no chance that scum don't shoot Porkens if she isn't lynched here. The scum literally cannot afford bodies to drop that fast just like we can't as town.
I've played with Almost for literally a year+ of game time. I know when Almost is crumbing and when he isn't. Just because you missed it doesn't mean I didn't.
And Transcend begged the vig to shoot keychain.
Guess what if Transcend was the vig you'd still be running up Porkens for claiming Transcend vanilla. He'd claim Transcend scum of some kind as that's the only way he'd have a kill. So no Transcend was shot because Porkens wanted him dead because Transcend was a threat to Porkens.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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To prevent the gunsmith from checking you and deflect a possible guilty in advance.
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As a vig you need to shoot someone who you feel cannot be lynched. Transcend was under suspicion by keychain and almost 50. In other words he's a bad shot as he could be lynched tomorrow. Hence why the shot is bullshit again because pushing transcend was possible unless Keychain is Porkens partner and she got scared and fear killed Transcend.In post 641, northsidegal wrote:
serial killer or derp town, huh? what exactly have i done that warrants either one of these reads? what about my play is scummy or "derp"?In post 637, MathBlade wrote:Oooh maybe it's Porkens and Key and just north is SK or derp town?I don't see how Porkens shoots Transcend here at all with the dead townie FoS'ing transcend. That's bullshit. A push on Transcend was possible unless keychain was scum and it'd look weird coming from the partner.
also, could you elaborate on the bolded part? completely honestly, it doesn't make a lick of sense to me.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Because it's useless to check you. They'd get the cannibal status that you already claimed. And if you ever got pressured you'd just point to the crumb.In post 644, Porkens wrote:How would softing cannibal prevent the gunsmith from checking me?
Think about it a minute if you were so obvious why weren't you shot? That's right because you're scum.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Because A50 knows that town finding each other in a multiball game is important. It's not enough to kill scum because without flips there is no proof.
Instead it has to be telegraphed in such a way that looking back it is unmistakable but forwards it is overlooked. Crumbing has to be done with care and caution.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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That is a drastic oversimplification.In post 649, Porkens wrote:So A50 crumbs Vig because he's totes good at Mafia.
and I crumb Vig because I'm scum.
About right?
It means ONE of you is mafia wholeheartedly.
However you're not acting like Almost50 is mafia when he should be confirmed mafia to you.
Based on Almost50's kill making sense and yours not. Your play not making sense and Almost50's is.
Your horrible shot as it wasn't on Almost50
It's more a convolution of those factors.
And the fact you're still standing too. And the fact you were freaking blatant versus Almost50 who was subtle.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Because Keychain is your buddy if mafia.In post 651, Porkens wrote:I think A50 was trying to draw the nightkill if that was actually a soft at all, and I'm not convinced it was.
Why would I kill Transcend as SK/Maf?
And because if SK it would be an incompetent one or one designed to sow chaos or reduce mafia numbers too early.
Hence why I think you are mafia.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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If I claim cop in a newbie game and am not the cop. The real cop knows I am scum and tunnels me to death. Porkens shoots A50 here if vig. Period. There is only one town vig. And yes she was. It's fucking Transcend. From the join date she has to know Transcend.In post 652, northsidegal wrote:
i'm not accepting this as an argument, unless you're going to find links or similar posts from previous games.In post 642, MathBlade wrote:I've played with Almost for literally a year+ of game time. I know when Almost is crumbing and when he isn't. Just because you missed it doesn't mean I didn't.
Tomorrow I will find you your crumbs.
i wasn't saying that transcend was the vig - i was saying that a lot of players have made comments at the vig similar to what a50 said, and that it doesn't really prove anything to me.Guess what if Transcend was the vig you'd still be running up Porkens for claiming Transcend vanilla. He'd claim Transcend scum of some kind as that's the only way he'd have a kill. So no Transcend was shot because Porkens wanted him dead because Transcend was a threat to Porkens.
No...No one said something similar to what A50 said. Transcend begged the vig to shoot keychain. Making him not the vig. Porkens has a 2000s join date. Burden of proficiency falls there.
trasncend wasn't really under all that much suspicion from keychain, although i'll admit she could have changed her viewpoint come today - keep in mind though that there were people defending transcend from being lynched day one. it sounds to me like you're claiming the shot is fake because porkens thinks differently from you - consider that not ever vigilante goes through the same thought process as you. also, i sincerely doubt that keychain would be scared of transcend's pushing her. again, keychain was never really under any risk of being lynched and i seriously doubt she would have been.MathBlade wrote:
As a vig you need to shoot someone who you feel cannot be lynched. Transcend was under suspicion by keychain and almost 50. In other words he's a bad shot as he could be lynched tomorrow. Hence why the shot is bullshit again because pushing transcend was possible unless Keychain is Porkens partner and she got scared and fear killed Transcend.In post 641, northsidegal wrote:
serial killer or derp town, huh? what exactly have i done that warrants either one of these reads? what about my play is scummy or "derp"?In post 637, MathBlade wrote:Oooh maybe it's Porkens and Key and just north is SK or derp town?I don't see how Porkens shoots Transcend here at all with the dead townie FoS'ing transcend. That's bullshit. A push on Transcend was possible unless keychain was scum and it'd look weird coming from the partner.
also, could you elaborate on the bolded part? completely honestly, it doesn't make a lick of sense to me.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Good night. We lynch pig.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Tired as fuck from a side project but A50 commonly talks about his role. When he has it and pokes holes in others theories about it.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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That's the one thing I believe Porkens is telling the truth on. If not then he'd become a policy lynch when eventually we should have the larder revealed when Porkens flips.In post 673, PMysterious wrote:
Well, now we know that Trans was vanilla (if you are telling the truth).In post 556, Porkens wrote:I ate transcend cause I thought he was crummy and irritatingly non contributor. He was vanilla. Still delicious.
Actually, Math could have plenty of reasons to believe you are not Vig. However, with the hard claim, it's hard to believe that you aren't "a" killer at least.In post 624, Porkens wrote:I'm glad you are getting lynched today. I was really happy that you /inned but you have no reason not to believe I'm vig other than desperately wanting me lynched.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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And yes I expect Porkens to pick up on something so blatantly obvious that I find it despite being half drunk when reading the thread. Scum picked it up to shoot A50. Like....obvious.In post 658, northsidegal wrote:
let's take a look at what transcend said again:In post 654, MathBlade wrote: No...No one said something similar to what A50 said. Transcend begged the vig to shoot keychain. Making him not the vig. Porkens has a 2000s join date. Burden of proficiency falls there.
there's really nothing in there that i would call "begging". it's just a statement that keychain is getting vigged. i'd say if you're going to interpret either as a soft vig claim, this one makes more sense - while this one never even implies that transcend isn't the vig, a50's post implies that he isn't the vig.In post 516, Transcend wrote:not hammer*
also keychain gets vigged @vig
no exceptions
she is scum
i have her pinned down for sure
A50's post implies that he wants a GOOD vig in the game. implying he knows who the vig is and they are bad. The only way this happens if A50 is the vig. He'd suspect otherwise not know. Transcend was communicating with A50 to kill keychain and keychain died.
that again relies both on a50's post being a vig claim and on porkens picking up on that. you're acting like transcend is some god that all the newbies and the scumsters fear and while i'm not trying to doubt transcend's skill, if i was in keychain's situation i certainly wouldn't be scared. transcend's case on her the entire day basically boiled down to quoting her rvs post. now, there's probably some depth there in transcend's argument that i'm not seeing or that he hadn't made clear yet, but he wasn't really one to make a real case on someone and to push their lynch through. also consider that it took until basically halfway through the day forIf I claim cop in a newbie game and am not the cop. The real cop knows I am scum and tunnels me to death. Porkens shoots A50 here if vig. Period. There is only one town vig. And yes she was. It's fucking Transcend. From the join date she has to know Transcend.anyone elseto even hop on the keychain wagon, and nobody else that entire day did.
i have to disregard any argument that relies on keychain being afraid of transcend or almost lynching her tomorrow as evidence because it just doesn't make sense.
There's absolutely no way an SK or mafia shoots Keychain. I just don't buy it.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Yeah no. Godel is not happening.In post 671, northsidegal wrote:i'm not entirely sure i want a mathblade lynch. like, i'm pretty sure he's wrong on a lot of accounts but i haven't gotten a huge scum vibe from him. i'd much rather lynch godel here - not satisfied with his response.
VOTE: godel
We can mislynch me or properly lynch Pork. Take your pick.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Anyone not voting Porkens ask yourself the following:
If what Porkens did was really a vig crumb and really that obvious why is Porkens alive?
Here's a hint..Porkens isn't the vig.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Are you even reading? I said Almost is the vig.In post 682, PMysterious wrote:
Is this a counter-claim?In post 679, MathBlade wrote:Anyone not voting Porkens ask yourself the following:
If what Porkens did was really a vig crumb and really that obvious why is Porkens alive?
Here's a hint..Porkens isn't the vig.
It's not a counterclaim.
It is just raw confidence.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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I am voting Porkens will respond to rest after work.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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My ass is fine according to my doctor and I explained why I thought Almost was the vig. It is a typical Almost crumb and Almost and Transcend were working together on key. Lynching me won't change that belief.In post 689, PMysterious wrote:
If you aren't going to counter-claim, then you have no real reason to dispute a claim.In post 684, MathBlade wrote:
Are you even reading? I said Almost is the vig.In post 682, PMysterious wrote:
Is this a counter-claim?In post 679, MathBlade wrote:Anyone not voting Porkens ask yourself the following:
If what Porkens did was really a vig crumb and really that obvious why is Porkens alive?
Here's a hint..Porkens isn't the vig.
It's not a counterclaim.
It is just raw confidence.
By saying that Almost is the Vig, this either implies that you know something that we don't, or you're talking out of your ass, and I'm inclined to believe that it is the latter of the two.
VOTE: Math. That's L-1.
The only thing that will change it is me seeing the dead thread and spoilers or a Porkens SK flip because if he is green I am calling bullshit on day one and Porkens needs to apologize for not shooting Almost50. A decade (or close to it) experience is enough to pick up on that shit.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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?? Minority report is a movie? Do you mean something else?
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@havingfitz -- Activity question (post above is for context)In post 577, MathBlade wrote:I am gonna have sads if three townies died.
I really think that two or three townies died. Just need to look at key here and make a judgment call on that.
With three kills and limited activity afterwards implies killers active. North side gal leaving this out of the assessment makes me really scared about north.
VOTE: North
Mainly no PM mysterious/Not Mafia/your slot post flip.
There was a town lynch and three kills. A great scenario for mafia/SK.
Apathy would likely be Town and not scum.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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@havingfitzIn post 589, MathBlade wrote:
With Transcend and Almost50 both suspecting Key I'm pretty damn certain Key was scum.In post 531, Transcend wrote:If I'm still alive tomorrow which i doubt because i reckon both sk and mafia will kill me let's double team Keychain
Because Almost50 and Transcend have a townie intelligence quotient bigger than mine. Like I start scumreading them if they scumread too much Town. The fact two really good players agree on Keychain is something noteworthy.
And I am voting Porkens. If a VC doesn't show it I don't mind revoting or poking the mod.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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