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I wasnt lying when I said I was still on page 1. I then follow up posted when skimming the page where my post landed, and to get a bit of a reaction to what felt forced.In post 186, xwing wrote:@teacher: are you implying there's scum in the wagon? why are you not probing who you think is/are scum there?
im giving you the benefit of the doubt since you said you're on your phone..it sucks to have to post from there..
Im still on page 1, with parts of page 5 and 8 read. I couldnt tell you who was on the wagon if a million bucks rode on it. I hope to be there in about 4-6 hours.
But Im at a desktop now, so will be puttering back and forth to the site until I can actually pay attention.-
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So do you want to give any?In post 207, the worst wrote:
yeah....that's correctIn post 205, teacher wrote:Its your frickin bread by ISO, though I appreciate the readslist. On a quick ISO, I dont see you explaining the hard town Xwing. Youve obviously played with them, and I dont see reasoning yet.-
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Why was mine a wolfy pop in but this wasnt?In post 73, the worst wrote: also down to policy flooflez with extreme prejudice-
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To the extent not answered already, Paranoid gun owner.In post 94, xwing wrote:what's PGO?-
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Yes. Id also be cool with Tchill, from my one game with them Id view it as a compliment.In post 116, the worst wrote:pedit: was that rvs t-sizzle?-
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EBWOP (much later) -- nice to meet you Sho.In post 121, teacher wrote:Nice to meet you who.-
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Talk to me about this. Because 107 struck me the opposite way. It, combined with an OMGUS vote and OMGUS read felt like pressure to townread the slot. Obviously she has meta Im not familiar with, and many people here are. But for those relying on meta, can you speak more on this?In post 129, Irrelephant11 wrote:THIS IS TOWN SHOSHIN-
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My own on providing my meta and responding to Sho's vote. I forced it out because I wanted to see who responded and how to my entrance.In post 216, xwing wrote:also which post did you feel forced?
PEDIT: High sort equity -- nullish read, would prefer focus there for future day's benefit. (at least my take on it)
T-sizzle/T-chill: looking for a way to refer to me not by name. Tchill is another player on site with some rep, so couldnt use that one. I think safe to ignore.-
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Alright, Im through 219. Time for the effort-post catchup. The popin questions from the readthrough still stand.
Elephant -- I will be paranoid of him ever since he cakewalked our first game on site as scum (cf. 180-Nauci). But this game from him feels different than the one time we played together recently. I found it interesting that immediately after the naked and unannounced L-1, he claimed an inno on Sho (80). The Elephant I know tracks votes better than this. As a result, the catchup VC in 158 felt a bit forced as well. On the other hand, I liked 167's explanation for the take on Carmen, a slot I am being pinged by. Mostly, I want you to talk about 129. I found the reads on Shoshin and Keyser off at the time, but they may be based on Meta I dont know. Please to explain? Pure null.
Me -- dirtbag.
Keyser -- I liked the early tone of GIFS and 19, though I cant explain why. I found the unannounced L-1 concerning, especially with the later request for no quicklynch, so am interested inThe Worstexplaining why it would be a townread. As for Keyser himself, I echo Xwing's question of what was giving you wolfy vibes about that slot as of 106? The naked vote on me seems a bit much of a reaction to what was admittedly a forced post, and potentially an early jump to an incipient wagon. While I liked later posts (145, 148, 171), on balance I think this slot is posting alot without providing much. Null scum within rand.
Krazy -- AFK getting no attention for it.
Carmen -- A similar read to Keyser. There is more I like here, such as the early interactions with Shoshin in 46 and 53. I am seeing some effort to sort, but am not sure I buy the sorting that results -- the townread on Sheep from asking for a Wiki, and the scumread on elephant both seem pretty empty. I certainly dont think you can call Elephant's ISO totally devoid of content, and am not sure I buy that Sheep actually wanted to metadive. pure null.
Shoshin -- my hardest slot. By far the most content, but almost entirely self-focused. Others say that this type of defensiveness is consistent with meta. I had a scumread as of 107, but have questions about the wagon. The first RVS wagon is almost never the lynch for the day, because people have a slight psychological block about returning to where they first voted. I am confident (by both statistics and gut) that there was one scum on the wagon at the time. I am not as confident for what this means about Shoshin's own slot -- whether it was distancing or not. The most pro-town thing I am seeing so far is 166's case on FWS. Shoshin, can you provide analysis on other players completely ignoring their read on you for the time being?
Fluffy -- The caps are an eyesore, but Im liking the material there. The interchange in 177 and 178 in particular seems guided by a true effort to sort. Why did you call this (on page 3 just hours after opening) a slow early game (60)?
Xwing -- was troubled that an apparent newb knew enough to tell the mod in the confirmatory PM that they were VLA weekends, until I read that they had played three newbs already. This is my hardest townread from 94 and 124. I also think 186 is rich with potential associative tells if I need to reexamine this.
The Worst -- my second hardest townread. Why did you not mention elephant in 190? Can you speak more on your solve, because if it involves your Dayvig proposal it is off. I also want to know more about the Keyser town (from the L-1 and the naked vote on me).-
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Relly=elephant. My bad. Liking you more. Will substitute the question for why Sheep is scummy?In post 220, teacher wrote:Why did you not mention elephant in 190?-
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wk tho?In post 232, Keyser Söze wrote:scum-Irrelephant doesn't dive in to save scum-Shoshin's bacon here.-
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Not confident and n returning for 48 and have a stronger joint sr (Ie at least 1 is wolf) on CarmenElephant than on iso you.In post 228, Keyser Söze wrote:In post 225, teacher wrote:If forced to vote, it would be Keyser, but Id rather not park when I might not be back.Strange... trying to connect me as your partner eh?
Why not vote here? I'm your strongest scum read... I am in no danger of being hammered... don't you want to see me under pressure?
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I really do want more from you on the sheep and Keyser reads.In post 229, the worst wrote:
what should I respond to? sorry, I didn't really see anything there to engage withIn post 227, teacher wrote:No interest in any of my questions then?
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Ok. I’m mobile so will make a point to find time to respond to both of you in a free. @worst my issue is that I feel I have explained mine with reference to specific posts while you haven’t, so I was going for the comparison. But I’ll provide more detail. @key I don’t s/s them though it’s not impossible. It’s more that I don’t have a good feel for which one of them it is. I provided by thoughts on both lots and issues with those lots in the long post. But again I will follow up-
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Prodge til tonight Eastern. I have been tracking on mobile, but have been unable to analyze due to class work. Im now much more of a weekend than an inweek player. My gutshot reactions from mobile skimming posts as they come in:
1. TW gets my thanks and appreciation for the Sho meta links. I really appreciate it. I was already inclined to defer to the several metareads, but my click through seemed to confirm that.
2. Am glad Krazy got a little more attention, and that they showed up, but Im going to need more content. Seems like our schedules are similar enough that we will at least interact.
3. Speaking of, Carmen has gone AFK now, and since before my long post....Mod - Prod?
4. But Elephant's response to my reads didn't help much either. My reads -- which TW categorized correctly, were two heavy towns, one light town, and 1.5 scum reads (key + Carmen/Elephant). To call the readslistand followup explaining that Carmen/Elephant were not null, but rather an incompatible scum that I couldnt weigh against each othermostly null-scum seems off and misreppy. If anything it was heavier on towning people than scum-hunting. But Im never good at judging people's reactions to me, since I think my wordiness is clearer than it often winds up being.
5. Speaking of, I found the heavy shading of my slot without many new votes pretty interesting. Perhaps Im channelling Sho's self-centeredness but it felt like there was at least one scum shading me but not voting -- some suggestion that one of the votes on me could have been a partner.
6. Whoever asked about how I normally form reads, I am normally stronger earlier. This game is hard for me because I have less time than normal (came close to not signing up) and I feel like there is an interplayer dynamic from past relationships that I am not picking up on.
7. Whoever commented on not being afraid of mobile posting, thats just not how I work. I need two monitors. I read in one, and add comments into my notes on another. I then reflect on the comments and post. I am very much a reflective player rather than a gutshot player. The hits above are the sorts of things Id put into my SS, not my customary post (at least not until I have better feels for the players.
8. Whoever posted the code for linking posts -- thanks. I know it. I link posts I think are important/central to my read. I dont link posts I merely refer to or think are not as central. If it would help others to have the coding for all references I can -- just respond to this and lmk.-
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Im now the AFK along with Krazy, and you have my apologies because I hate that normally. I slept for 12 hours when I intended to play last night. Im judging a debate tourney today but will get in action between rounds and definitely tonight as Im rested.
My reads have gotten stronger on town TW. A little weaker on Xwing simply from coasting when they are vla weekends and didnt seem to do much after securing a townread on Thur and Fri, but I still think the contentful posts ring townie. FWS has moved way down for me, Key has moved way up. Im at the point where my pool is Krazy, Elephant, Carmen, FWS.
Im still conflicted on Carmen and Elephant. Im locked that there is a scum there, but I want to double ISO for more confidence on which one. To be clear, my pure nulls on both were thinking one must be scum but not having strong pings on which one. Im also hesistant on reading Elephant because I have a genuine like for him as a person - I like how the game isnt personal for him. In my three games with him, Ive also misread him three times, so have little confidence on my ability to read his playstyle.
In addition to that double ISO, Im going to do a game search for Krazy, because I think reactions to that AFK may be informative. I want that slot to play the weekend like they said they would, and the two Friday posts seem like posting just to post without content or taking stances.-
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Im catching back up so going to be spamposting responses and reactions..\
I may not be using WK correctly. I view it as scum potentially TMI defending town. so I was suggesting I found Elephant's timing and defense.....interesting, especially since his take was different than mine. I now find it not as interesting since the meta take has been echoed by many others and Sho has towned herself from my perspective as well.In post 239, the worst wrote:
[snip]In post 236, teacher wrote:
wk tho?In post 232, Keyser Söze wrote:scum-Irrelephant doesn't dive in to save scum-Shoshin's bacon here.
what does white knighting have to do with this? what do you think made scum Irrelephant feel like this was a good time to swoop in and defend his scum buddy? or are you just being a contrian here?-
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He has moved up to a softtown for me over the course of the day after my post as well. Ill share what moved him after the readthrough.In post 251, the worst wrote:I agree his more recent posts have been more likeable, do you see them as coming from any alignment or the other?-
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Sold. These were quite convincing.In post 505, Shoshin wrote:carmen thoughts.
intent. Im popping in and catching up still throughout the day as well, so glad to answer any questions.-
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Based on what, exactly?In post 435, Carmen wrote:I actually do townread Krazy, though, despite my annoyance with his reasoning.-
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Can someone other than me confirm that its only L-2 right now due to Key's unvote. I will vote now if that is confirmed.In post 516, teacher wrote:intent.-
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Sho, I get your position in both cases, but it seems like a really hard 180 you did in the 120 posts between this and now. What moved you off of sheep, or why were you so willing to pingpong this slot?In post 332, Shoshin wrote:Carmen is town.-
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Since you were asking about a comment made in my 220, my thoughts at the time were: "145[/post and [post]148 feel good to me as sorting and calling things out - but could be busywork? 171also felt like genuine thoughts, but could be scum-flexing?" Bottom line, they felt good and towny, but I could see scum motives.In post 513, teacher wrote:
He has moved up to a softtown for me over the course of the day after my post as well. Ill share what moved him after the readthrough.In post 251, the worst wrote:I agree his more recent posts have been more likeable, do you see them as coming from any alignment or the other?
Since that comment (and your question) however, I have continued to really like Key's play, which to me raises the Occam's razor odds of it being towny. I liked his pressure for me to vote (him), I like his explanation of the Xwing suspicion, I like that he corrected tw on the L-1 being intentional, and I like his acknowedging the few bright stars in my ISO while continuing to PoE me. I even really like 244. The partner searches and the play overall just feels real, and insightful.-
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I’m not going to be able to solve until tomorrow night at best and most likely Saturday . If people wanna try to hammer me before then, they should. Given how I’ve played, I should not be allowed to make it to lylo which is tomorrow with a mislynch. I agree that sheep looks scummy from yesterday but I’ve done no nka.
Responding at somewhat random, I didn’t talk because the hammer came before I logged on. (@xeing I think). And sorry for my time zone screwup on your weekend.-
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Sheep is scum, but Im not his partner. Thus I view the solve as as an attempt to put us at Lylo even with a claimed scum.In post 677, Irrelephant11 wrote:Why is no one amazed at my proof that sheep is scum
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Got to be honest, this has me wanting to reread you too. I can see scummayor in your play, but I also see TONS of effort to solve. I dont have great leads this game because Im not really playing it. Part of why I want a long day so that I can get time.In post 615, the worst wrote:if my soul is correct we nuke teacher after floof-
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Quick NKA --- Keyser as a night kill makes sense -- he was probably the most townread player unlikely to be protected (this is gut without rereading the board). I dont think this was a framejob pick.
- I view it as town indicative for Krazy because of 568. This was a slot that was getting null-scum from inactivity, and I dont think it would want to remove a potential defender.
- I see Elephant as having possibly having scum motives from 488 and 500, to name a few examples when there could be more.
- I also see scum motive for Sho - Key was one of the few slots that was questioning the heavy meta case, though they eventually "bought a ticket". While I town Sho as well, the death will make me re-examine that.
- Both those scum motives, however, are less important than the town Krazy. Claimed Scum FWS has motive enough from 573 and 442. I could see scum!FWS hoping to Lolhammer and escape for just one day to get to lylo and plant false associations. This makes Key's other scumreads less important.
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Inclined to agree, though Im wondering why YOU posted this.In post 614, the worst wrote:soulread 2 scum on wagon bee tee dubz
As background, Im a believer that in a 7-2 setup there is normally 1:1. There is a statistical difference between the likelihood of that setup and the likelihood of 2:0. I actually use that difference to form my reads generally.
There are just a couple of issues with using that here. First, I have made this case several times in recent games, meaning anybody who knows my meta knows Im likely to reach that conclusion, and people here have meta read me. Second, if it is 2:0, it is almost always a scum holding the hammer....and look at that, its Sheep with a lolhammer as his slot was coming under fire.
As for you (one of the two off wagon candidates) posting it, Im not inclined to think much. I think you are back being active and addicted to the game. Scum!you does not need to reinforce the town case. You remain locktown for me.
So from wagon analysis, I remain at Scum!sheep, and thinking the partner is likely there too.-
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In post 700, Irrelephant11 wrote: I'm no longer at 98% sheep I scum, I'm at like 83%
???? (also mobile editing sucks)In post 702, Irrelephant11 wrote: sheep - definitely scum, right?-
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Its because I think there is zero risk of me being the nightkill and a significant risk of me losing the game if I make it Lylo. I havent seen anyone by Sho townread me (but see their more recent post), and I honestly understand their view -- I havent done much. So the least I could contribute is get rid of scums easiest path to victory.In post 659, xwing wrote:why are you being fatalistic on your slot? no one's even tried to form a wagon on you D2 yet
But tbh it was a little bit of a sense of exhaustion with the game at the time. I shouldnt have signed up due to school commitments, but I really liked the player list. In game, however, getting on and doing reads felt like a chore and duty rather than fun. Im now excited to try to figure this out over the weekend, so dont feel the same way.-
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This was intent to L-1, not intent to hammer. You didnt need to unvote.In post 705, Irrelephant11 wrote:sheep, krazy has given intent so in your next post you should claim-
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It seemed like you were building an excuse to get off Sheep if an exit became available by reducing arbitrary percentages of scumminess, but then going back strong once the readslist posted.In post 706, Irrelephant11 wrote:Like if you think sheep will self-hammer what part of my posts bothers you
Like I said a long time ago, I dont trust myself to read you, and I dont want to scumread you. But you will definitely be one of the players I plan to put in triple ISO to solve.
Hope this week is going better than last for you. I am so looking forward to Friday myself.-
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Youre right, my bad. I didnt see/log TW's vote immediately post phase turn. Thank you for the courtesy, I appreciate it very much.In post 709, Irrelephant11 wrote:I put him at L-1-
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You thought scumchat was already on post 2042 in a game with 2 scums where we ourselves arent there with 9 players? Tell me more.In post 705, Irrelephant11 wrote:I thought I'd caught scum accidentally revealing things from scum chat-
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Thanks.
FWIW, MY triple ISO is you Shosh FWS since Im treating FWS as claimed scum, and Krazy hasnt said enough to make it worth testing associations.
I didnt catch it in real time for 220, but I found it odd just how much attention FWS and Shosh paid each other in RVS. Fully 20% of the first hundred posts of the game is those two slots talking about the other. 17, 21, 22, 27, 30, 35, 38, 39, 40, 44, 49, 51, 60, 61, 64, 66, 67, 96, 97, 100-
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You did remind me, however, of something else I wanted to respond to. I was actually referring to 237 and 241, not the one you quoted.In post 638, Irrelephant11 wrote:teacher has referenced this post as *so obviously* stating that either me or Carmen is scum. I definitely don't read those words anywhere in here? Am I missing something?-
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Thank you for the day(s). I have to admit Im surprised by the lack of play. Yes, we are lynching sheep. Yes, that will flip red. But at this rate town is still heading to Lylo, so it might make sense to try to get more posts out of everyone including (and especially) me and Krazy. Right now, Im inclined to think the remaining scum is Shoshin, despite the heavy meta reads. I will post on why in separate posts on TW, Shos, Elephant, and Krazy. I should be around most of today and, provided the hammer doesnt fall, tomorrow.
I am more than happy to vote sheep, but I think scum benefit from a fast day today because that leads to a mislynch tomorrow.-
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Talk about this please.In post 582, Shoshin wrote:If one of Carmen or FWS is town, xwing's the other scum.-
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Shoshin:
Spoiler: Early game thoughts
Spoiler: xwing thoughts
Another major indication for me is the lack of effort today. From someone who is unquestionably the leader D1, I now see Shoshin as falling into her own self-description:
My bottom line is that I am stuck with a PoE pool of Shoshin, Krazy, Elephant and Xwing, and I dislike them in that order.In post 400, Shoshin wrote:I simply can't maintain any degree of effort as scum for longer than a couple pages-
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Krazy:
The AFK that makes me want to have today actually last, so that people can sort better. I have limited thoughts to go with their limited posts.
So I only have experience with late-game replace-in Krazy, who arrived with a solve in hand, and scum Krazy, who again replaced-in to a terrible slot but tried energy play. This is neither of those, so I don’t have good meta here to go on.
What I have seen so far I somewhat liked. The post that was the worst for me was 543 – it comes after posting a bunch of links and essentially nulls everybody. (Cough – elephant, isn’t a mostly null readset scummy?). But the followup made me feel better. Specifically, this
Is an incredibly accurate and detailed metaread of me. So I read this as giving genuine information and trying to advance the game. I felt the same way about 758 – Krazy has clearly read the game, and I think comes out in the right place on Elephant. 554 also comes to the right place on both Carmen and Sheep, and at a time when there is an outside chance that the momentum shifts, so this post gets Krazy more towncred than Shoshin got.In post 550, Krazy wrote:teacher -- Err, for some reason I feel like teacher has had decent presence, but at a glance, he is actually slightly more in line with his scumgame. Last time I was with him I correctly sorted him as town very quickly, but maybe his real life business is tilting my read
Great detail and good reasoning.In post 558, Krazy wrote:the difference in how the player sees themselves from how I see them makes me think they might be more likely to be town
Bottom line Im left with a weak townlean and a lot of WIM to be able to confirm that and also solve the game.-
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Hardest slot to sort at the time. I had a scum reaction to the early game, but read the meta reads and liked later posts. Basically, it was not null, but rather strongly conflicting scum and town instincts. I think its scum by PoE.In post 655, xwing wrote:2. "hardest slot" 220 - maybe teacher should answer this-
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Responding to 638 generally.
Included just for context.In post 638, Irrelephant11 wrote:I did a double ISO of Sheep and teach
Nope. As I explained later, I was referring to other posts.....Like the one you quote JUST TWO below it. Dont see how you dont connect the dots here, unless you are just trying to get me to be the conf!biased D3 mislynch.In post 638, Irrelephant11 wrote: teacher has referenced this post (220) as *so obviously* stating that either me or Carmen is scum. I definitely don't read those words anywhere in here? Am I missing something?