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Assuming this is serious, yes?
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I could be convincedIn post 48, Zdenek wrote:I have a day-vig, so should I just shoot Taylor?YOUR AD HERE
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Where's Anders amirite!?In post 57, DkKoba wrote:Im off of work and im free tonight since i dont work tomorrow morning so ill be watching threadYOUR AD HERE
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What was a good point?
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I'm down for this.In post 74, Andresvmb wrote:Sorry, didn’t mean to quote NDMath there. I was referring to geraintm.
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VOTE: geraintm
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OK. Koba is town.
DGB is playing that DGB town game too. (But DGB is also inscrutable, so...)YOUR AD HERE
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In post 106, Infinity 324 wrote:taylor - townish
jackson - townish
shelly - townish
DGB - scummish
gerain - scummish
baltar - scummish
mark - townish
Let's say infinity is scum. Probably one bus on this list (geraintm). Other partner could be Marky Mark or I could possibly see andres.
I do think andres' town play is pretty hard to fake (based on the recent game I playe with him), so I expect that will become clearer over time.YOUR AD HERE
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Nah. I just feel relatively confident I'll be able to figure out whether he is being genuine over time.In post 127, DkKoba wrote:are you saying you played a game against andre where he was scum?
It's not so much meta as it is I found his town play to have a certain verve that would be quite challenging to replicate as scum. Possible? Maybe. But I do think it'd be clear if it was inauthentic.YOUR AD HERE
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You got a response to this Shelly?
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Apparently I don't!In post 202, DrippingGoofball wrote:In post 184, VP Baltar wrote:It's times like this I just try to imagine what is going on in the scum PT.
Maybe you don't have to imagine...
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Maybe it is justifying the RVS vote hahaIn post 209, DkKoba wrote:DGB if ur gonna shade how about u back that up with a vote?YOUR AD HERE
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Coming in a little hit there don't you think?In post 216, geraintm wrote:I am away for 11 hours and 5 pages of worthless posts to read through on a weekend when I have limited access.
This is going to be a fun game....
I've played with a few people in this game before. If they could be bothered they could explain to the rest my limited posts so far. I'll rather let people talk themselves into a frenzy.
Can we just skip to day 2 already though?YOUR AD HERE
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You basically said you were annoyed people were posting too much and offered nothing of substance yourself. Not sure why you're acting angry about people posting.In post 220, geraintm wrote:Hot how?
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Very confused as to why you're assuming this is one alignment or the other. Most people would assume daytalk (as you did), so that doesn't seem scummy to me.In post 226, Andresvmb wrote:Alright I’m just going to put this out there. @Koba I’m not getting Townyvibes from you. I really didn’t like your attempt at a derp clear with the Scum not having Day Talk. In fact, anybody who made a direct reference to that should be under some suspicion (I don’t really have a read on VPB but I also noticed a reference there from him). Until it was highlighted, I didn’t even check whether this was the case. Yes, I initially assumed that Scum could speak privately during the day. But the Scum are far more likely to have wanted to communicate and strategize early, only to realize that they couldn’t (as included in the rules). So anybody who realized this probably felt it would be something they could use to clear themselves by making a point out of it. Paranoid? Perhaps. But something to think about.
Scum could try to town point off it, which is why it is NAIYOUR AD HERE
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I figure one of us is eating the NK tonight after we yeet a scum, so I'm leaving any Koba paranoia I have for later, in the rare circumstance that doesn't happen.In post 236, DkKoba wrote:vp if ur pocketing me im allowing it... for now.YOUR AD HERE
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Gonna let infiinity/shelly/jackson keep scumming it up in this thread. One is probably dumb town though. because geraintm is still scum.
Whoever it was that asked me for a reason to vote geraintm is a very likely buddy. Might have been shelly, but I'm semi-drunk and too lazy too go back.YOUR AD HERE
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LolIn post 306, shellyc wrote:oh and VP shading all the active slots is ++scumpointsYOUR AD HERE
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I'm out here having gin and tonics, but also watching Netflix and ppl are kind of boring rnIn post 304, DkKoba wrote:keep drunk posting plsYOUR AD HERE
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CHECK MY OWN VOTE SEEMS LIKE UR FULL OF SHITIn post 315, shellyc wrote:Your reads are basically "everyone that shades VPYOUR AD HERE
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Lol telling me how to play mafia is a real trip.In post 317, shellyc wrote:VP you should go on the wiki and read some scumplay articles that you should never omgus as scum in the current site meta
Lemme say, I've been around the blockYOUR AD HERE
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Bad thing about no daytalk is that scum are just gonna spaghetti all over themselves trying to stop their buddies from eating a yeet.
Shelly, if you're town, I'd prolly stop trying to save geraintm bc it's going to look bad when he flips redYOUR AD HERE
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I haven't felt pushed at all.In post 323, shellyc wrote:
personal attack vs. solving my alignment when I'm pushing youIn post 318, VP Baltar wrote:SEEMS LIKE UR FULL OF SHIT
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Literally have no idea what you're even trying to say here, but I don't think it means what you think it means.In post 329, shellyc wrote:oh and preflip assoc #2
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You should vote him then and prove me wrong with a flipIn post 331, shellyc wrote:oh wait i misunderstood that
you're telling me to stop saving gerain
gerain's iso is basically the same as all the other lurker isos, i completely don't get this cw at all
confidence in scumflip when we're 48 hours into d1 cant plausibly come from town imoYOUR AD HERE
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THANK YOU PROFESSOR MAFIAIn post 337, shellyc wrote:
info flipping is one of the easiest ways for scum to get free miselimsIn post 333, VP Baltar wrote:You should vote him then and prove me wrong with a flipYOUR AD HERE
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Don't stop believingIn post 344, Infinity 324 wrote:I still feel pretty justified in asking for reasons. 225 barely counts.
Baby, hold on to that feeling
Anyhow, I'm sober now and this line of questioning looks even worse in the light of day.
And, oh hey, geraintm still isn't doing anything.YOUR AD HERE
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I haven't played with scum!Koba, but this is basically how they posted in the town game I played. Probably NAI.In post 348, Marky Mark wrote:I'm not sure what DK's posting frequency has been like in other games - there's a decent amount of proactivity in there but also a lot of fluff. Scum me is all about stacking the post count high to make it more of a faff for the town to pick up the important stuff, so I could totally see someone pulling this as a scum move.YOUR AD HERE
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I may as well address my geraintm vote, which I think is quite obvious, but everyone asking can't be scum (though I am certain at least one is).
I initially voted them as a bit of pressure because they were fluffing and semi-lurking. Then geraintm finally comes back to the thread and posts an angry screed about how fluffy D1 is and laments why we can't just hurry along to D2. Is it possible that comes from town? Maybe. But it also feels very manufactured when you consider we only had a handful of pages at that point. I could see getting annoyed at fluff posting and a long D1 if we were on like page 50. But only ~10 pages? Seems fake.
Geraintm hasn't posted any substance since then either. If they are so eager to get to the meat of the game, why aren't they scum hunting?YOUR AD HERE
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Yeah, I'm confident that if Koba is town here, we have pretty good odds of yeeting scum D1. I don't play to lose or hem and haw. Neither does Koba is my sense.In post 291, JacksonVirgo wrote:The part where they're talking about eating the NK after they yeet a scum is them being incredibly confident that they're going to lynch scum D1, which is mathematically unlikely and Town hardly ever has that much confidence given Townies would know next to nothing outside of what their role is. Also the fact they're extremely confident that Koba or themselves is going to die at night, that means that they're incredibly confident that Koba is town and it's like scum is needing to pocket Koba but not push their full innocence as they might be a needed push later down the line and they don't want to put the full effort of having to develop a full ass 180 story.
Further, if Andres and DGB are town, scum are in for a rough road. That's potentially 4 fairly aggressive town players to contend with from the start.
Why should I concede D1 has to be a misyeet?YOUR AD HERE
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Maybe. Probably depends on experience level. Losing a buddy D1 is a sketchy proposition if you're not confident in your own scum play.In post 356, DrippingGoofball wrote:
Nah, trust me, if they feel like they have a weak partner, they are going to help us yeet it.In post 326, VP Baltar wrote:Bad thing about no daytalk is that scum are just gonna spaghetti all over themselves trying to stop their buddies from eating a yeet.
Shelly, if you're town, I'd prolly stop trying to save geraintm bc it's going to look bad when he flips redYOUR AD HERE
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Except, that's not true?In post 355, Infinity 324 wrote:I didn’t like the fact that you wanted gerain to comment on shelly but you didn’t.
I was actively pressuring shelly in 180 184 and 190.
Very clearly I felt there was merit in that push, and that's why I questioned and poked at shelly there.YOUR AD HERE
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Post 180 is a literal question to shelly.In post 359, Infinity 324 wrote:Looked to me like side commentary, there was no voting or questioning of shelly.YOUR AD HERE
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I mean, the way I tend to see it is that town is a push and pull with other town players. Koba was doing a good job pushing shelly hard. I wanted to notch that pressure up a bit (or at least reinforce Koba was not alone in suspicion), but felt no need to take over the inquisition. I think it is fine for town to play supporting roles when the situation calls for it.In post 361, Infinity 324 wrote:Fair enough, and I agree that it was clear you thought it had merit. But you didn’t give an opinion or commit yourself to anything, it felt kinda like throwing shade to me.YOUR AD HERE
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Look at these votes to find people who are not genuinely working to solve the game.
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I won't take this as an insult I wasn't mentioned.In post 382, Andresvmb wrote:Koba where are you? I think there’s some chance shellyc is Scum here hahaha
I'd yeet shelly or geraintm today. You got a preference?YOUR AD HERE
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Oh tone reads...In post 396, shellyc wrote:
DGB overall tone is really kinda laidback in a town way as town are getting a feel for the game in early gameIn post 353, VP Baltar wrote:Btw, shelly and infinity, definitely am going to require you to explain why you chose to attack me over my geraintm vote while saying nothing about DGB's vote.
What made me more scummy than DGB?
And DGB is I afraid to go against the majority opinion which reads rather townie
... so definitely not made up bullshit.YOUR AD HERE
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Considering shelly just said some crap that is NAI for DGB, that's gonna be a naw from meIn post 406, DkKoba wrote:tone reads are good if ur actually good and read them rightYOUR AD HERE
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I feel like a good bit of your game so far is telling other people why their scumhunting is wrong, and I hate it.In post 435, Infinity 324 wrote:Still have no idea why people SR jacksonYOUR AD HERE
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Oh wow. Didn't see that comingIn post 463, JacksonVirgo wrote:My IC thing isn't real fyiYOUR AD HERE
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I guess what I'm saying is I'd rather see more proactive scumhunting from you instead of just saying other people's cases are bad.In post 471, Infinity 324 wrote:
Really? I’m sorry I called your reasons for voting gerain bad. Jackson is something that I’ve asked for multiple times and no one has given me anything, this is just more of an “i don’t get it”.In post 454, VP Baltar wrote:
I feel like a good bit of your game so far is telling other people why their scumhunting is wrong, and I hate it.In post 435, Infinity 324 wrote:Still have no idea why people SR jackson
If you're town, all that approach does is serve to undercut pressure.
I don't have a strong sense of who you think is scum and why, but maybe I'm missing itYOUR AD HERE
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Is this how he always plays? That's annoyingIn post 472, Not_Mafia wrote:I see Geraint is getting the usual reactionYOUR AD HERE
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For sure. I'm the same way. There's a lot of dead weight in this game so far.In post 475, Infinity 324 wrote:I play by engaging people
Let's change approaches. Tell me why shelly's play doesn't feel scummy to you. Her posting is pretty bad.YOUR AD HERE
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Boo hoo.In post 480, shellyc wrote:whats in there is basically throwing shade at me, "this is a big turn around on shelly over some meta argument. ngl", "gonna let jackson/infinity/shelly keep scumming it up" without actually. articulating reasons. which is pretty indicative of overconfidence.YOUR AD HERE
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I come away with a very different feel about those posts. They feel quite surface level and go nowhere to me. I'll reread shelly's iso today though and see if I can see where you're coming from.In post 478, Infinity 324 wrote:In general I see a lot of effort to solve when not many others are. If she's doing this to get free townpoints, I'm fine giving them to her and seeing if she can keep it up.YOUR AD HERE
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What I mean is shelly's comments aren't actually pushing toward figuring out the game or creating dynamics that lead to pressure and slot-solves.
Her points are either shit posting that basically takes dumb swipes at me ('policy all policyers!'), or they are just softballs like engaging with Jackson's perpetual fake claiming.
To that end, players like Andres and DGB are certainly being more effective. Hell, even three posts in, at least Not_Mafia has tried to do something interesting to elicit results (even if that is their play all the time).
Playing a town role is about more than "making cases"YOUR AD HERE
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Like I said, I'll reread with an open mind later today. I definitely haven't ruled out she is just bad town. But I am clearly giving her less credit then you are for the same posts.In post 487, Infinity 324 wrote:I feel like the opinions she's putting into the thread are real thoughts, and putting your thoughts into the thread is a great way to solve the game imo.YOUR AD HERE
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I have no idea what that is even supposed to meanIn post 489, Zdenek wrote:
I guess that I like to think you’d be better than this.In post 184, VP Baltar wrote:It's times like this I just try to imagine what is going on in the scum PT.YOUR AD HERE
Too busy with work to play mafia right now but I shall return some day!