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VOTE: Not_Mafia

[Not_Mafia]

Oh and btw, if people haven't played with not_mafia before, they generally don't really contribute to the game

[Not_Mafia]

My IC thing isn't real fyi

[Not_Mafia]

I see Geraint is getting the usual reaction

[Not_Mafia]

I'm town btw

[Not_Mafia]

I'm town btw

Thanks. Thoughts on the game so far?

They're still developing

[Not_Mafia]

I don't see the point of lunch

A) It doesn't make sense
B) Everyone will just think of lynch when they read it so it defeats the purpose

It's the same as posting the n word with a 1 instead of an I to circumvent the filter

[Not_Mafia]

Taylor and geraint is town

[Not_Mafia]

I think DKKoba is scum

[Not_Mafia]

Geraint is locktown

[Not_Mafia]

not mafia isnt actually playing the game they just purposefully post the bare minimum to annoy ppl and yet we still allow them to play like this (((:

Ok scum

[Not_Mafia]

Why?

He just is

[Not_Mafia]

Why?

He just is

My pronouns are they them thanks!! Il

We were talking about Geraint tyvm, it's not all about you y'know

[Not_Mafia]

imma lurk out to day 3 and solve, cool with everyone?

Everyone cool if I do the same, except it’s not day 3 it’s the whole game and I won’t solve

[Not_Mafia]

... but she herself voted Geraint a couple of pages earlier, which is a wagon based on very similar principles (ie pressuring an inactive & hard to read player)

That whole "on lookout for lhf" thing is just plain contradicting everything, as I remember calling out in my wall on them.

As a side note, I'm presuming LHF is "Low, Hard, Fast" ?

Latvian Hockey Federation

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: DkKoba

Obvscum

[Not_Mafia]

Hi A50

[Not_Mafia]

Bad vote Gamma

[Not_Mafia]

This is me not hammering

[Not_Mafia]

THIS is me hammering VOTE: Geraint[/b]

[Not_Mafia]

Just kidding

[Not_Mafia]

Seriously though, we should be eliminating DK

[Not_Mafia]

Still not hammering

[Not_Mafia]

NM scumreads gera and thinks theyll flip scum thats why they wont hammer lmao

Incorrect

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: DkKoba

[Not_Mafia]

So was the guilty real?

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: Infinity

If Taylor was scum she'd have stopped posting a while ago

[Not_Mafia]

I want to vote everyone and no one at the same time

[Not_Mafia]

What’s the VC?

[Not_Mafia]

What's the VC?

[Not_Mafia]

Current VC after me quickly running through the past 12 pages.

With 11 votes in play, it takes 6 to eliminate someone.

VPB: 2 (Infinity 324, Tayl0r Swift )
Infinity 324: 2 (Not_Mafia, DkKoba)
DrippingGoofball: 2 (Flavor Leaf, Marky Mark, )
Tayl0r Swift: 2 (DrippingGoofball, VP Baltar)

Not Voting: 3 (Andresvmb, Almost50, JacksonVirgo)

Thanks

VOTE: VP Baltar

[Not_Mafia]

Man, out of the 4 of those wagons, VP is like the actual worst one, Not Mafia.

I disagree

[Not_Mafia]

I'm town

[Not_Mafia]

I don't suppose you fancy articulating why you are voting VP, N_M?

He just feels kinda off

[Not_Mafia]

Just like, not quite right, y'know

[Not_Mafia]

If I was scum I'd make up a better justification for my read

[Not_Mafia]

If I was scum I'd make up a better justification for my read

I'll bite here - wouldn't town you think that
a.) their own reads are not 100% infalliable, so explaining to the rest of the players their justification will help develop the read communally and flesh out whether it seems reasonable
b.) other players might not be seeing what you are seeing so it makes sense to convince them of your POV and win them round by justifying/explaining it

I did explain my read

[Not_Mafia]

Sometimes I think they is scum, sometimes I think I just don't like their posting style

[Not_Mafia]

I'm now pages behind, but where is Taylor and why the fuck are we dawdling on this?

Silence scum

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: VP Baltar

[Not_Mafia]

VP is obvscum please vote him everyone

[Not_Mafia]

Not really, I'm just being true to myself

[Not_Mafia]

I could go for Taylor now, her posting is getting increasingly desperate

[Not_Mafia]

VP is obvscum please vote him everyone

Are you as confident as you were on Prof and Johnny in the previous game?

Nah, they basically claimed scum

[Not_Mafia]

I agree with A50

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: Taylor

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: Taylor

[Not_Mafia]

VP is still scum

[Not_Mafia]

VP is still scum

Vig me

Would that I could

[Not_Mafia]

VP is obvscum please vote him everyone

Are you as confident as you were on Prof and Johnny in the previous game?

Nah, they basically claimed scum

So they

claimed

Scum, but you're

not

as confident as you were in the previous game where you

did

catch 2 scums?? I am at a loss.

I mean Prof and Johnny basically claimed scum

[Not_Mafia]

looooool

VOTE: VP Baltar

Now this please kthnx

[Not_Mafia]

but seriously VPB is almost certainly scum

You think so, and so does N_M and Infinity, yet his wagon never did take off. I would've certainly voted him over you.

Join us A50

[Not_Mafia]

DGB could you please vote VP?

[Not_Mafia]

Can we please elim VP geez louise

[Not_Mafia]

Leaning town

[Not_Mafia]

This is me not hammering

[Not_Mafia]

Incorrect

[Not_Mafia]

I would absolutely be hammering my partner here

[Not_Mafia]

So was there actually a hammer or can we still elim VP

[Not_Mafia]

Subject: Micro 928 | Permanent Marker | endgame

A win is a win! PoEing towards

N_M after he brutally hammered his own partner

isn't the most gratifying way to win the dayplay, but a win is a win.
This is definitely not balanced but my brain isn't spitting out a revision two right away. I kind of prefer my misreading of the setup over the actual functionality of the setup, my misreading said you could vote to make a player bulletproof AND unlynchable with no way to unmark them, with no %age based penalty being necessary, if you define all draws as mafia wins.

[Not_Mafia]

i wouldnt be surprised if ur being roleblocked btw @FL the angle that andres is taking here is very confident

I can confirm this is not the case

[Not_Mafia]

Taylor was obvtown

[Not_Mafia]

Still want VP

[Not_Mafia]

Yup

[Not_Mafia]

I am saving 13 pages for later

[Not_Mafia]

OKay someone summarise these claims please

[Not_Mafia]

I'm probably gonna want Koba regardless as they should have been the day 1 elim

[Not_Mafia]

Multitasking Mailman and what?

[Not_Mafia]

Wait ignore me

[Not_Mafia]

I'm an Indecisive Doctor Voyeur, I feel like Marky's role has synergy with that

[Not_Mafia]

I still want to elim VP

[Not_Mafia]

DGB N1
You N2

Neither were visited by anyone else

[Not_Mafia]

I'm an Indecisive Doctor Voyeur, I feel like Marky's role has synergy with that

This isn't me saying I think he's town, I think Multitasking Mafia Role Watcher is a good counterpart to my role

[Not_Mafia]

Here comes the partner to try and discredit the easy target

[Not_Mafia]

So a doctor voyeur would see anyone who visits who they protect?

Yes

Here comes the partner to try and discredit the easy target

nah

Yes

Here comes the partner to try and discredit the easy target

answer the question.

No

[Not_Mafia]

Can someone who is not me ask the same exact question to NM? I'm not interested in a dumb back and forth about whether he should answer a legitimate question.

I don't negotiate with terrorists

[Not_Mafia]

NM once again trying their best to subtly throw the game <3

I'm agreeing with you?

[Not_Mafia]

I'll wait for a VC

[Not_Mafia]

I aint falling for that

[Not_Mafia]

VP/Marky/Andres

[Not_Mafia]

Not Mafia is trolling VP before your eyes, how is he not agreeing?

I wouldn't say trolling so much as not answering why he wouldn't suspect mark immediately on D2 given it would be a direct conflict with his own claimed role. Also, why not protect Infinity last night since he was town reading them and scum reading me?

I respect the temerity of swimming against the inevitable tide

[Not_Mafia]

you think town!NM ever does the optimal move?

that's some pretty shit play though. As opposed to a Marky-NM scum pair, which makes a lot more sense.

I don't have experience with NM though.

lol now he's trying to tie me to Marky instead

[Not_Mafia]

I'm enjoying VP flailing too much to hammer right now

[Not_Mafia]

We don't need to know why you NK'd Infinity

[Not_Mafia]

It's Jackson or Andres

[Not_Mafia]

I mostly don't want to end the day

VOTE: Marky Mark

[Not_Mafia]

VP isn't tying A50 or JV to Marky.

vp i dont think the stall u have on this wagon is a good look bc i believe rn at least one scum is off wagon

I mostly don't want to end the day without hearing from A50. I logistically think Mark is the right yeet today, but I don't think we should let A50 have another day of zero responsibility.

It's like clockwork

[Not_Mafia]

dgb do u want another message tonight?

If it's not too much trouble, I'd like a message containing a transcript of the unreleased epilogue to Rebecca by Daphne Du Maurier

[Not_Mafia]

I'm an Inquisitor

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: Koba

[Not_Mafia]

I am a doctor

[Not_Mafia]

Who derailed the koba elim day 1?

[Not_Mafia]

I'm probably gonna want Koba regardless as they should have been the day 1 elim

I wish I'd just stuck with this instead of getting caught up in things like evidence and claims

[Not_Mafia]

I targetted Jackson last night, he received no such message from Flavour Leaf

[Not_Mafia]

I'm an Indecisive Doctor Voyeur

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: Koba

[Not_Mafia]

Koba, there's only room for one toxic contentless spammer in this game

[Not_Mafia]

I have about 193 pages I haven't properly read

[Not_Mafia]

I have about 193 pages I haven't properly read

Give or take 1 or 2

[Not_Mafia]

i didnt kill nobody!!

nobody isn't in this game

[Not_Mafia]

A50, no one else targetted him

[Not_Mafia]

Can't wait to hear about Flavour Leaf's 'friendly neighbour'

[Not_Mafia]

Rolewatcher/Voyeur don’t both exist for town, just saying, VP.

They do though

[Not_Mafia]

A50, no one else targetted him

Why target A50?

Couldn't target Jackson, settled for A50. thought he might get NK'd

[Not_Mafia]

A50, no one else targetted him

That is an odd choice of target.

Why not target a claimed PR?

I couldn't target Jackson due to the indecisive modifier, if, IF, FL is really Friendly Neighbour we already know scum can interfere with the role anyway. That only leaves VTs or unclaimed roles, he's my biggest townread out of the VTs/unclaimeds

[Not_Mafia]

@DGB - if you’re town, we just need to successfully town read 1 of them. I have no clue, lol

This applies to everyone, why even bother saying this?

[Not_Mafia]

Not Mafia seems townie every time they talk to me, but I always town read scum Not Mafia, and logic shows they are scum here.

We lynched Marky Mark based on claims and logic when we should have just stuck with Koba, they were pretty obvscum day 1.

Prof is mafia because he's mafia, claims are irrelevant

In the game the above post is quoted from (VP and A50 were both in that game too and can attest to this) I called a scum fake claim because the player was obvscum, everyone went on about how it didn't make sense for scum to fakeclaim that role and my post above was ridiculous. Guess what? The player was scum, logic is overrated, it's a social game.

[Not_Mafia]

Maybe we're all scum, that's what it's starting to feel like

[Not_Mafia]

@Not Mafia - should we target the same person, or separate? You can make sure certain people stay alive, and if you’re scum, we lock you in somewhere. What are your thoughts on that?

No, scum just kills one of us in that case

[Not_Mafia]

Scum already know I can't target A50, that's if I'm telling the truth about who I targetted of course

[Not_Mafia]

My mind keeps changing every 5-11 seconds, I feel like DGB is the safest elim though

[Not_Mafia]

I'll be livid if VP is scum and we don't eliminate him, that will be 2 scum reads I was right about that I let go if he is

[Not_Mafia]

I was not in this game.

I always get you and Man With No Name mixed up

[Not_Mafia]

In my defence, he's also a man

[Not_Mafia]

FL, why were you so certain you were not roleblocked N3?

[Not_Mafia]

Look at how JV just skips over role block.

He knows that didn't happen because he got the Friendly Neighbor action.

Lemme guess, FL will claim he tried to confirm to Andres

That's what I'm expecting yeah.

FL looks even worse when they were softing Loyal when they weren't

I sent my friendly neighbor to Jackson. He is scum with DGB.

They set this entire game up to tie Dkk to me further. I would never kill Andres there, it basically means I'm 100% dead. Jackson is playing to win the long game.

Actually, you're the one that assumed you weren't roleblocked lmfao.

I wasn't roleblocked. You got my message.

[Not_Mafia]

You know what, both times I lost to Not Mafia, it was because I town read him and defended him.he could have been playing this entire game around that knowledge.

I don’t know him as a person, just a player.

I don’t even remember these games broseph

[Not_Mafia]

I think VP is town

[Not_Mafia]

FL's claim was so bad I don't think I can vote anywhere but there

[Not_Mafia]

I'm town

[Not_Mafia]

I definitely see how my role looks like a scum counterpart to Marky Mark but it's not, it also has some town synergy with Marky Mark but it definitely feels like a bit of mod wifom/trolling bu having both in the set-up. Also bare in mind, if it is a fakeclaim, there's no chance in hell I came up with that myself, it would have to have been fed to me by my partner and I'd sooner have just kept pushing koba for the towncred rather than buying a widely scumread slot with a near pointless PR one more day.

[Not_Mafia]

I would not have gone along with this fakeclaim gambit as scum

[Not_Mafia]

Can you direct me to these games please? Your paranoia doesn't seem correctly placed, if you were saying "NM has won against me before as scum by hiding behind his meta", I'd easily believe it, this evil genius line, I'm not as ready to believe. There is the odd scum game where I've made a couple of galaxy brain plays but I don't recall you being in them

[Not_Mafia]

it also has some town synergy with Marky Mark but it definitely feels like a bit of mod wifom/trolling bu having both in the set-up.

this is the line here that makes me think he is scum playing off the fact he gets underestimated.

What is it about that line that makes you think that?

[Not_Mafia]

I aint scum bro

[Not_Mafia]

I must ask you to reconsider

[Not_Mafia]

My big brain plays have all involved getting myself lynched and setting up my partners to win, I'm not the player that goes to endgame to take us over the line, I'm the sacrificial lamb

[Not_Mafia]

viewtopic.php?f=84&t=74626

Like this game for instance, I deliberately trolled my own partner in the scum PT cos I knew he would lead a day 1 elim on me if I did, he rode the towncred to win

[Not_Mafia]

There is the odd scum game where I've made a couple of galaxy brain plays but I don't recall you being in them

@DGB - see, he knows he's capable of it. Don't underestimate him because of his act.

If I were scum why would I say this? I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here and actually trying to engage

[Not_Mafia]

I see this. I just don't know if that makes you town.

The difference from that game you linked, I don't believe you planned to die Day 1 there, and I was defending you Day 1 here, so I dont see why you would ever purposefully go down,

I thought I'd last longer than day 1 in that game due to jester paranoia but the point is it didn't matter when I was elim'd in that game, it could have been day 1 or day 5, it was about setting up my partner(s) to win the game, if I'm a scumteam and we're doing a 2000IQ gambit, you don't send me to endgame

[Not_Mafia]

Not Mafia coming in now to defend himself makes sense as scum last ditch effort.

Also makes sense as town

[Not_Mafia]

This definitely feels like Flavour Leaf fishing for a vote so DGB can hammer, I can see FL posting in the scum PT every 5 seconds asking if she's ready to hammer if VP votes me

[Not_Mafia]

if I'm a scumteam and we're doing a 2000IQ gambit, you don't send me to endgame

I don't think you had a choice.

And scum don't have daytalk, right? Planning does get harder because of that.

No idea mate

[Not_Mafia]

I'd forgotten you were boonskiies until I saw your sig just now, our history goes back a lot longer than I thought, makes your paranoia of me make more sense as town

[Not_Mafia]

I came into this day thinking it was Not Mafia/VP. What a ride

You've changed your mind about 27892538914727959023478395234985 times and named every possible team multiple times

[Not_Mafia]

This definitely feels like Flavour Leaf fishing for a vote so DGB can hammer, I can see FL posting in the scum PT every 5 seconds asking if she's ready to hammer if VP votes me

if I'm a scumteam and we're doing a 2000IQ gambit, you don't send me to endgame

I don't think you had a choice.

And scum don't have daytalk, right? Planning does get harder because of that.

No idea mate

I'm saying the scum don't have daytalk question in a way where I'm bringing up the fact that it's been confirmed by the ruleset and in game multiple times.


This feels like an attempt to try to make a tell like you were acting like you didn't know scum didn't have daytalk.

You keep flipping back and forth between me being some sort of master marionettist and a completely clumsy idiot

[Not_Mafia]

Yes and then, on at least 2 occasions, you've said I'm just openly stating my scum strategy

[Not_Mafia]

She is charming and smart and tricksy!

I'm none of these things I must be town

[Not_Mafia]

but also, NM's reaction to this commitment stinks to scum high heaven.

I don't know what this means

[Not_Mafia]

but also, NM's reaction to this commitment stinks to scum high heaven.

I don't know what this means

You're trying to be nonchalant and logical in response to FL's vote. I'd be flipping a shit as town if someone was voting me unless I thought that person was absolutely scum.

You think FL is scum?

He is the person I think is most likely to be scum, but I'm far from certain, I'm trying to put my scumread aside and engage him sincerely

[Not_Mafia]

This definitely feels like Flavour Leaf fishing for a vote so DGB can hammer, I can see FL posting in the scum PT every 5 seconds asking if she's ready to hammer if VP votes me

I'm not gonna hammer.

What a pop in

[Not_Mafia]

Okay.

VOTE: DGB

Let's talk VP, how can I convince you to join me on this?

[Not_Mafia]

I think it's FL/DGB and DGB is more realistic elim today

[Not_Mafia]

DGB's sig seems particularly germane here

[Not_Mafia]

DGB's sig seems particularly germane here

I claimed VT 10 times already.

I mean in reference to myself

[Not_Mafia]

UNVOTE:

[Not_Mafia]

Fuck

[Not_Mafia]

He did! What a surprise.

Also, why the unvote, N_M?

[Not_Mafia]

GG scum

[Not_Mafia]

Well, FL. NM and Dk, congratulations, you played me good.

It was A50 and FL

[Not_Mafia]

I'm an Indecisive Multitasking Vanilla