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[Gretchen]

heeeeeeeeeeeeeey. first things first let me tell you about myself. so. going into this i was really scared of rolling maf, like terrified. i haven’t played in a good while so i'd prob be really rusty and get power elimmed LOL. so you have no idea how happy i was when i saw that sweet sweet sugary green. and uh. gonna be real i don’t think i know how to play as maf anymore and i'd prob ask my team to throw me under the bus, like, instantly on day 1 lmao. but i'm town!! all is right in the world and i'm town town TOWN

[Gretchen]

also another thing about me is that i always find maf if you give me enough time. like, i will always find them no matter how good they are. lying is tiring and maf will always always always wear down over time. if you know what yyo're looking for you’ll see when that happens, like when they start to lose energy and start posting less, and that's what i’ll use to find tthem. what i'm saying here is... basically, is that even if you think i'm maf you should give me a few days. cuz if i'm town i'm sure as hell gonna find you the team. so yeah

[Gretchen]

Hello. Have Fun. Remember to <3.

First list = Best list.

Funeral Goose

samantha97

ItalianoVD

Battle Mage

Lunar Martian

Gamma Emerald

esotericzoomer

Gretchen

Ydrasse

Happy Unbirthday Boon

In the beginning

Cookie Monster

VOTE: Cookie Monster

LOL i think this is maf. mafia are bastards who want nothing more than to kill innocent civilians. and you’re voting to kill straight away when the dude you're voting has said literally nothing. like literally nothing. yeah. i think this is obvious maf unless you can convince me you somehow have a reason to think he's maf already, like something from your role

VOTE: Funeral

[Gretchen]

i see a lot of peeps voting funeral which prob means he's being thrown under the bus already? don't know if we'll get a lot from it for finding his partners then. idk. killing maf is the goal tho so it's not all bad

[Gretchen]

[Gretchen]

LOL let me try that again

[Gretchen]

[Gretchen]

cookie's prob town cuz you're maf and maf wouldn't vote to kill another maf like that straight away. even tho she'd said nothing i can tell what she is from what you did. i guess. i think that makes sense yeah

[Gretchen]

why would they do that? vote each other straight away i mean. they don't wanna die or get heat early so that'd be a stupid thing to do. wait. are you trying to make cookie look like maf cuz you're maf? and you don't want her to be cleared as town after you're dead lmao

[Gretchen]

idrk about samantha or ydrasse yet. well. maybe they feel a little maf but idk, i don't wanna put a lot of confidence in it. that might just be bc ik i'm biased in thinking the quieter players are more maf, but it not always be like that

[Gretchen]

i'm biased in thinking the quieter players are more maf

Yet you are voting the player with that has the most posts?

VOTE: Gretchen

yo this just makes me think you're even more maf. i know one thing for a fact and that’s that i'm town. so you thinking i'm maf means you’re either maf who's straight up lying to everyone or you’re just town that’s bad at the game. i don’t know which one’s worse for you lmao. if you’re town you should realize i'm town or i'm just gonna think you’re maf and we’ll both be wrong and get nowhere. does that make sense?

[Gretchen]

so you have no idea how happy i was when i saw that sweet sweet sugary green.

I didn't have any green in my town PM.

wait. what? are you claiming maf?

[Gretchen]

theater lol i like that. who's doing the acting?

[Gretchen]

this is mind numbing but also fsr feels like theatre

Should I just stop replying to her? Because that is what I want to do.

okay...? i'm just trying to play the game, sorry if i upset you

[Gretchen]

so you have no idea how happy i was when i saw that sweet sweet sugary green.

I didn't have any green in my town PM.

wait. what? are you claiming maf?

According to Ydrasse, samantha, and zoomer they didn’t have colors in their pms.

OH. i meant green=town, not actual colors

[Gretchen]

cookie's prob town cuz you're maf and maf wouldn't vote to kill another maf like that straight away. even tho she'd said nothing i can tell what she is from what you did. i guess. i think that makes sense yeah

Isn't that a bit disingenuous to insinuate that goose is mafia because cookies town and vice-versa? I'm not gonna shut you down for how you make reads, you do you but I feel you're making something out of nothing here.

do you think they could be maf together? i just don't see maf voting to kill a partner like that straight away bc people like following the crowd, so like, worst case cookie gets lots o votes and no maf wants that right at the start. oh actually. to make themselves not look like maf/maf? well... maybe but maybe nt bc people might see it like that so what's the point. yeah i don't think it is

[Gretchen]

i promise i'm town...

[Gretchen]

cookie's prob town cuz you're maf and maf wouldn't vote to kill another maf like that straight away. even tho she'd said nothing i can tell what she is from what you did. i guess. i think that makes sense yeah

Isn't that a bit disingenuous to insinuate that goose is mafia because cookies town and vice-versa? I'm not gonna shut you down for how you make reads, you do you but I feel you're making something out of nothing here.

do you think they could be maf together? i just don't see maf voting to kill a partner like that straight away bc people like following the crowd, so like, worst case cookie gets lots o votes and no maf wants that right at the start. oh actually. to make themselves not look like maf/maf? well... maybe but maybe nt bc people might see it like that so what's the point. yeah i don't think it is

I mean, was cookie at any risk of being eliminated there?

no but don't maf want no attention on them? votes are attention which can lead to that maybe happening in the future

[Gretchen]

seriously i'm town. i wouldn't be playing like this as maf, i'd just be shutting up and letting everyone else do the talking

[Gretchen]

i told you i was rusty... if i'm playing weirdly just give me some time to get back into it, i'll play better

[Gretchen]

Was the attention there really that negative though?

a vote to kill is always negative. and like, there was nothing else in the game so isn't that where all the attention will go

[Gretchen]

gretchen what’s your experience by the way?

a few newbie games. i stopped playing for a while but read a few games outside and this is my first outside of it

[Gretchen]

i got maf twice in a row when i played which is prob why i stopped. first one was okay but second one... i don't even wanna talk about it LOL

[Gretchen]

gretchen, do you think that all votes this early on are to kill?

not like locked in, but a vote means you're voting to kill that person so it's always gonna be bad for maf

[Gretchen]

i just don't see maf voting to kill a partner like that straight away bc people like following the crowd

Isn’t that all the more reason to do it? Towncred and all that? I tend to slightly agree that they’re probably not both scum, but I’m also not ruling it out.

what so one of them looks better if the other is revealed as maf? uhhh it might be, but idk if it's worth having one of them die in the first place, like, is that a worthwhile trade?

[Gretchen]

i don’t think that’s the case but also it isn’t important to discuss the nuances of voting theory so like

what are your quick thoughts on everyone so far

i think you're town and just like. hm. it was when you unvoted me that made me like you, like instead of just jumping on me as an easy kill, you talked to me instead to figure me out and i like that a lot

[Gretchen]

UNVOTE:
Gretchen there's a funky phase early on called RvS (random voting stage)
Take the super early votes with a grain of salt.

okay. but a vote to kill is still a vote to kill and like, people will still... uh idk. nvm forget it. thanks for telling me

[Gretchen]

the cold cynic in me thinks this is an act

the soft side makes me want gretchen to live 4ever so they keep playing mafia and don't get discouraged

^^;

[Gretchen]

what so one of them looks better if the other is revealed as maf? uhhh it might be, but idk if it's worth having one of them die in the first place, like, is that a worthwhile trade?

Yes. It’s generally what happens especially if it happens early, especially on Day 1. You appear to be kinda new and I always like to let newbies know to never disregard what’s unlikely as if it could never happen. Don’t use it as a full read, but just keep it in the back of your mind, so that you don’t ever get duped (okay SE hat off). Also not sure if it’s ever a good trade, but scum have their own strange reasons for doing what they do.

okay! thanks for the advice, i'll keep an open mind about things

[Gretchen]

thinking in the beginning is town

[Gretchen]

I want to vote you

mindmeld

can you townslip to me real fast so i know it’s real...

uh, my role card said, um, town, or something

could you make this sound any more awkward lmao

[Gretchen]

interesting take
why?

he says i'm town for my first two posts and i think i know why. like, i think it's easier for town to realize why i'm town for it than for maf to fake that opinion

[Gretchen]

I want to vote you

mindmeld

can you townslip to me real fast so i know it’s real...

uh, my role card said, um, town, or something

could you make this sound any more awkward lmao

that's as many filler words as I could fit
you want more?

yes! i wanna push you to your limits mr zoomer. show us you having nothing to hide

[Gretchen]

pocket?

[Gretchen]

I want to vote you

mindmeld

can you townslip to me real fast so i know it’s real...

uh, my role card said, um, town, or something

could you make this sound any more awkward lmao

that's as many filler words as I could fit
you want more?

yes! i wanna push you to your limits mr zoomer. show us you having nothing to hide

clock is ticking

[Gretchen]

pocket?

Yes. It means when scum try to “mindmeld” with townies given the fact that townies like being townread and when people agree with them. Zoomer, you’ve been following Ydrasse around like a lost puppy dog what’s up with that?

i see. idk which of zoomer or ydrasse are pocketing the other in this case. i think Ydrasse is but i don't think she's maf

[Gretchen]

clock is ticking

this brings back my first thought on gretchen: if this isn't not_mafia I'm voting them

? what does this mean

[Gretchen]

I want to vote you

mindmeld

can you townslip to me real fast so i know it’s real...

uh, my role card said, um, town, or something

could you make this sound any more awkward lmao

that's as many filler words as I could fit
you want more?

yes! i wanna push you to your limits mr zoomer. show us you having nothing to hide

clock is ticking

sorry was busy trying to make a witty joke towards someone who was genuinely putting forth effort to solve
calling me 'mr. zoomer' is funny lol cause gen z people are really not that old

it was decently witty so i'll forgive you for this transgression. just this once

[Gretchen]

clock is ticking

this brings back my first thought on gretchen: if this isn't not_mafia I'm voting them

? what does this mean

funny inside joke about a player on this site that me and everyone else with join dates in 2020+ will not at all get

i see...

[Gretchen]

highlight

oh neat

[Gretchen]

wait what there's

HOW

many on goose?

I know . I'm still waiting patiently on that Gamma unvote.

I know why you want me to unvote
what about HUB? I feel like he should know who you are just because I feel like he's a good alt hunter
and if he knows who you are and you know who he is I feel like you should expect him to unvote too

who is funeral? is the alt important for figuring them out?

[Gretchen]

he could be a vanilla townie who wants maf to think he's the tracker

[Gretchen]

probs vt

HEY i thought of it first

[Gretchen]

gretchen you feel like a caricature of a new player walking through the steps of why theoretical town or mafia would behave a certain way but it feels shallow and unapplied to the players of this game which makes it very hard for me to read you

i haven't played in a while so i'm trying to apply what i remember from when i played. sorry if it's shallow or whatever but it's not intentional, i'm just trying my best

[Gretchen]

if it makes it easier for you you can trust i'm town and never look back

[Gretchen]

death, death, goose.

VOTE: ItalianoVD

[Gretchen]

lmao i'd be very surprised if you know my main hub

[Gretchen]

unless you were in one of my newbie games on a different account?

[Gretchen]

this discussion is giving me a migraine

i feel that

[Gretchen]

goose, goose, death, why are you voting for me?

[Gretchen]

VOTE: Funeral

[Gretchen]

now it is!

[Gretchen]

i asked you a question funeral

[Gretchen]

Funeral you said i was trolling and not maf tho. does trolling=maf in your eyes? and i'm not trolling ftr

[Gretchen]

\o/

[Gretchen]

>.>
when you play so badly that people think you're trolling

[Gretchen]

did funeral run away cuz he couldn't handle the heat lmao

[Gretchen]

i thought me being maf meant cookie was town

[Gretchen]

UNVOTE:
my enthusiasm for voting itb died fast

he hasn't posted since you voted him!

[Gretchen]

i thought me being maf meant cookie was town

No if you were scum 58 is more likely to be s/s indicative for cookie than scum white knighting town imo, could go either way, we need more posts from cookie anyway

hm i don't get it. why?

[Gretchen]

i'm town

[Gretchen]

italiano why do you think 58 is scummy?

[Gretchen]

thinking in the beginning, ydrasse, hub are town town town. funeral and italiano maf maf

[Gretchen]

oh wait but would two maf vote together like that? prob not actually, thinking exactly one of them is maf

[Gretchen]

so uh. why're you voting me? town can have maf looking posts and i'm victim to that more often than i'd like to admit lol. others are saying it's a scummy post but it doesn't mean i'm maf. and why not vote for something you believe is maf rather than something others believe?

[Gretchen]

Plus you voted for me anyway, so what are you talking about?

what do you mean?

[Gretchen]

you know what i think? i think you're scared of ending up as funeral's competition for the vote. since uh, hub was suggesting funeral vote for you and i've already voted for you, so it's a possible risk. you voting with funeral and almost defending him makes it much less likely he'll do that now, and you can set up a nice town/town opposing votes situation. nah lmao

VOTE: ItalianoVD

[Gretchen]

but not me?

[Gretchen]

i need some help with votes on italiano my friends!

[Gretchen]

how's that relevant to your given reasons for voting me? you never asked why i voted you. oh. i didn't like you not bringing that up either

[Gretchen]

i wasn't surprised at the vote itself, it's like the reasons you gave with em which are dodgy. like, you don't even find the post maf yourself, but others think it's maf so you wanna vote there. and then in a later post you're saying you're voting for what you think is not-town. so. what is it? sounds like an excuse for you to set up a wagon on me when i'm town while denying all responsibility for it, bc technically

you're

not the one that thought i was maf, you were just voting based on what other people said. the more i talk about it the more i think it's really bad

[Gretchen]

wanna help me out hub?

[Gretchen]

thank you!!!

[Gretchen]

such a bore

[Gretchen]

i was surprised too. their first two posts seem so different to the latest

[Gretchen]

i knew it wasn't hammer when i vote sillies

[Gretchen]

voted

[Gretchen]

i should be top town

[Gretchen]

You should be but your cookie monster post bothers me too much, if it wasn't for that I'd have you as high town

you're looking into it too much when you should be treating it under the same lens

[Gretchen]

just trying to find the MAFs here

[Gretchen]

i should be top town

you are

there are 4 confirmed towns in my mind now + me = 5

that leaves hub/ydrasse/cookie/italiano/lunar/gamma/inthebeginning

hub and ydrasse have seemed on the up and up, and if inthebeginning is ircher then I'm doomed to think he's mafia no matter what; I even thought he was mafia when I was mafia

hub and ydrasse and inthebeginning are all town i think LOL. so if i can get you as town and trust your reads, this is a really good start

[Gretchen]

the cold cynic in me thinks this is an act

the soft side makes me want gretchen to live 4ever so they keep playing mafia and don't get discouraged

This post will be interesting to look back on.

I'm slowly reading up. Don't like Gretchen, and I don't buy the act of both saying "keep me alive I'm very good" and then not seeming to know some really basic stuff. Not going to be voting until I get caught up since 17 pages is a lot of time for wagons to get into the danger zone.

i like you so far if that helps <3

[Gretchen]

italiano was quite active and chatty right up until i started calling for votes on him and asked him some tough questions. that speaks volumes if you ask me. which you should because i'm good at answering questions

[Gretchen]

1) yes
2) italiano
3) Cookie Monster
4) i'd ask in the beginning what actually went down in the beginning
5) idk

[Gretchen]

OH you were fulfilling my request for questions lmao. i was so confused why you sent a survey my way... keep them coming lol

[Gretchen]

happy to see my initial read on you was right! you can have my heart, just lock it up in a freezer and keep it fresh <3. but uh. yeah. there's a lot wrong w italiano and you highlighted some of the other reasons

[Gretchen]

I also think you should be voting italiano since that is a much more realistic and much likely better cw to yourself than gretchen

According to you right? Fmpov you’re wrong.

This is your towniest posting yet tbh

But you'll notice I did not vote you over the goose, I was more indicating to the goose what I thought he should do

like that was actually one of his worst posts hub. it did nothing but state the obv, like, what did that post do? did it try and convince you he's town? did he say why that was a bad idea in a way that can convince anyone? no. and the 'fmpov' feels off

[Gretchen]

Oh that was because I was wrong on your main, I thought you were someone else that would definitely hammer someone at f-1 d1

what's the f stand for?

[Gretchen]

i wanna flip a pancake

[Gretchen]

Meh this is boring, let’s start up another wagon

VOTE: Lunar Martian

We don’t want him feeling left out.

Hello Funeral Goose! How are you?

So funeral goose is the only player on the list huh?

Why me?

No. Why not you?

Esoteric would be town for that post but I can't townblock them until they explain wtf a zoomer is and why they chose that name

boomer but backwards

What is remoob?

*shrinks in size*
Better?

UNVOTE:
thank you im claustrophobic

If you’re gonna unvote at least revote for someone cool.

I do remember the <3

You still read like scum to me

<3

Do they now? What reads like scum to you?

hi
VOTE: funeral goose

That’s it?

Meh this is boring, let’s start up another wagon

why did you out yourself and goose on day 1 post 1

Because our partner has it on lock.

yooooooohoooooo

VOTE: italianovd

Long time no see Ydrasse. Good to see you again.

good to see you again too! how’ve your been? how’s the red pm this game?

Oh yeah I’m good. And the red pm is fine I think. I’m color blind so who knows what it is.

red in spirit for the bloodlust

What do you mean by this?

heeeeeeeeeeeeeey. first things first let me tell you about myself. so. going into this i was really scared of rolling maf, like terrified. i haven’t played in a good while so i'd prob be really rusty and get power elimmed LOL. so you have no idea how happy i was when i saw that sweet sweet sugary green. and uh. gonna be real i don’t think i know how to play as maf anymore and i'd prob ask my team to throw me under the bus, like, instantly on day 1 lmao. but i'm town!! all is right in the world and i'm town town TOWN

Okay, bold. I kinda like it. What are your thoughts on samantha or Ydrasse? Anything?

i see a lot of peeps voting funeral which prob means he's being thrown under the bus already? don't know if we'll get a lot from it for finding his partners then. idk. killing maf is the goal tho so it's not all bad

Main reason why I started a new wagon.

what the hell is happening in here

What are you expecting to happen in here?

the pms don’t have color but yours is red in spirit

(you seemed stilted so i called you mafia)

I don’t have a problem with that, I’d be more suspicious if you townread me. I’ll prove you wrong though.

BTW it wouldn’t have anything to do with my avatar hmm?

so you have no idea how happy i was when i saw that sweet sweet sugary green.

I didn't have any green in my town PM.

wait. what? are you claiming maf?

According to Ydrasse, samantha, and zoomer they didn’t have colors in their pms.

idrk about samantha or ydrasse yet. well. maybe they feel a little maf but idk, i don't wanna put a lot of confidence in it. that might just be bc ik i'm biased in thinking the quieter players are more maf, but it not always be like that

Okay. Fair enough. We’ll probably end up circling back to this before the day is out.

i just don't see maf voting to kill a partner like that straight away bc people like following the crowd

Isn’t that all the more reason to do it? Towncred and all that? I tend to slightly agree that they’re probably not both scum, but I’m also not ruling it out.

seriously i'm town. i wouldn't be playing like this as maf, i'd just be shutting up and letting everyone else do the talking

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA SELF-META

Does it bring back memories?

What do you do Ydrasse?

what so one of them looks better if the other is revealed as maf? uhhh it might be, but idk if it's worth having one of them die in the first place, like, is that a worthwhile trade?

Yes. It’s generally what happens especially if it happens early, especially on Day 1. You appear to be kinda new and I always like to let newbies know to never disregard what’s unlikely as if it could never happen. Don’t use it as a full read, but just keep it in the back of your mind, so that you don’t ever get duped (okay SE hat off). Also not sure if it’s ever a good trade, but scum have their own strange reasons for doing what they do.

i’m in accounting and my work is best described as this:

Lol ugh, not sure if it’s worse than sales (cold calling).

Anyway, was just curious.

Gretchen is obviously town and anyone voting them should be ashamed for such an awful read.

Not sure about obvious. I’m not gonna locktown anyone yet.

I want to vote you

mindmeld

can you townslip to me real fast so i know it’s real...

Obvious pocket? Come on.

pocket?

Yes. It means when scum try to “mindmeld” with townies given the fact that townies like being townread and when people agree with them. Zoomer, you’ve been following Ydrasse around like a lost puppy dog what’s up with that?

also are we all ignoring that tracker claim so that mafia don't see it or something even though mafia already did immediately

Huh? What’d I miss?

@Gretchen: You can highlight what you want in a post and press quote. It will only quote what you highlighted. 177 is gonna get longer and longer, lol

@Samantha: who claimed tracker. I didn’t see that at all.

cause im like a fucking duckling, follow the first person i see lol

in all seriousness no i haven't been

Are we still in RVS cause I’m leaving if we are.

VOTE: esotericzoomer

WOAH THAT'S WILD
makes life so much easier wtf

Oh you didn’t know that? Well you’re welcome.

honestly I feel like the people defending Gretchen off the bat could be scum whiteknighting town
Itb is an obvious culprit, I think I saw something from you that felt that way too

Okay, well what are your thoughts on funeral goose?

WOAH THAT'S WILD
makes life so much easier wtf

Oh you didn’t know that? Well you’re welcome.

funny segue

I concur.

@ItalianoVD (to reduce quote wall)

Must every statement be questioned? It is a fundamental, unalterable fact here. Gretchen town claimed in their first two posts; therefore, she is town.

Tread carefully scum, for I am tracking each and every step you make.

Oh I did see that, but I guess I missed it. I was more focused on the Gretchen townlock. Interesting how you picked up on it though.

honestly I feel like the people defending Gretchen off the bat could be scum whiteknighting town
Itb is an obvious culprit, I think I saw something from you that felt that way too

Okay, well what are your thoughts on funeral goose?

wanna see more from him before I unvote

But you feel he’s scum right? Or was that RVS?

So it looks like I’m out of my league here. Page 9 was about alternates. I don’t have a clue. How many alternates are there? Is everyone?

I also think you should be voting italiano since that is a much more realistic and much likely better cw to yourself than gretchen

According to you right? Fmpov you’re wrong.

So it looks like I’m out of my league here. Page 9 was about alternates. I don’t have a clue. How many alternates are there? Is everyone?

There's at least 4

At least 4?


I don’t know about all that. You guys seem to know each other. I’ll just play the game as normal, but I’m guessing we’re gonna be disagreeing a lot.

Anyone else have kinda non-town thoughts about Sam?

I do.

i also refuse to believe that this wagon magically appears out of thin air without mafia interaction

It didn’t really appear out of thin air. It’s been there for most of the day, but I do agree with the premise.

Yeah it's nagl especially since I'm not giving him a day if 'gutscum sam' is the depth of thought he's going to give at f-1

So is samantha an alternate too? You guys all seem to know each other, but the rest of us are just looking on like...

i thought me being maf meant cookie was town

So let me get it right. Gretchen voted for Goose for voting for Cookie. Goose voted for Gretchen for misrepresenting her case. 58 is scummy and this Goose wagon is real? Like that’s what we’re going with today? And what about Cookie? There’s not a lot of content to do anything with that slot, unless of course that’s an alternate as well.

I don’t know what’s going on, but I feel something must come of this. If not for just reactions.

VOTE: Gretchen

I keep thinking italiano is notsci when I see his pfp

Oh no you don’t. I’m 100% homegrown ItalianoVD.

What does the vd stand for?

I’ve played the wolf game variation on a boxing game site and my username is Italiano. There is a player who purposely loses fights to everyone and his name is voodoo. Some of us pay homage to him by placing the VD tag on it. I guess it’s just stuck with me all this time.

italiano why do you think 58 is scummy?

I don’t know if it is or not. Others are saying it is. The tone of 328 is sort of me facetiously agreeing.

Plus you voted for me anyway, so what are you talking about?

so uh. why're you voting me? town can have maf looking posts and i'm victim to that more often than i'd like to admit lol. others are saying it's a scummy post but it doesn't mean i'm maf. and why not vote for something you believe is maf rather than something others believe?

I’m pretty sure Funeral is town, and there’s something about this RVS wagon becoming a serious wagon that is questionable to me. So I’m voting for what I believe is non-town.

I would take a look at Hub, Gamma, or Ydrasse if Funeral does flip town.

I’m already voting you.

Why do you feel pretty sure in funeral town?

Mainly gut. His posts just have a townie feel, but of course I don’t know his main account/alter ego/tells, so I’m just going by what I have in this game.

Plus you voted for me anyway, so what are you talking about?

what do you mean?

You voted for me earlier out of the blue.

how's that relevant to your given reasons for voting me? you never asked why i voted you. oh. i didn't like you not bringing that up either

It’s NOT relevant and it doesn’t correlate. I’m pointing it out since you were acting surprised that I voted you. I was stating, how you could you act in this manner when you voted for me. And I didn’t mention it because I wanted to see how you would develop it.

[Gretchen]

sir zoomer you should just accept the fact i'm town before you're late to the trend and feel sheepish afterwards. trying to look out for you here

[Gretchen]

gretch uhh please don't multiquote entire isos plz

fiiiiine

[Gretchen]

my role pm was tasty

[Gretchen]

i already cleared her as town tho

[Gretchen]

who do you think is maf cookie! and just between you and me, i've been a big fan of you ever since i was a kid. this is kind of an honor..

[Gretchen]

In the beginning, Ydrasse zoomed to samantha who was having a very Happy Unbirthday. It was a Martian from the moon! It Battled like a Mage and cast many spells but Gamma Emerald defeated it. A Funeral was held for the poor creature, and Cookies were given to the visiting Italianos.

[Gretchen]

cookie rapidly rising in towniness

[Gretchen]

the visitors might have to be served biscuits instead at this rate

[Gretchen]

it's Italiano and Gamma sillies. it came to me in a dream and i don't think i'd lie to myself about something so important. so yeah. you lot can figure out who the third one is. good luck~

[Gretchen]

VOTE: funeral goose

fyi I'm kinda chill with the italiano wagon but am thinking of going for cookie monster myself

I could see something like italiano/Itb/cookie

and no change in vote

[Gretchen]

funeral was the opposing wagon to italiano so of course Gamma didn't want to move and make his poor partner the only one... it's true love

[Gretchen]

zoomer! do you think being hypocritical is a maf thing? i don't think it is and i think cookie is a hungry townie

[Gretchen]

it's Italiano and Gamma sillies. it came to me in a dream and i don't think i'd lie to myself about something so important. so yeah. you lot can figure out who the third one is. good luck~

Is there anything particular that makes you think it’s gamma and Italiano?

gamma felt the need to express he was cool with the italiano wagon. he also said he might vote for you. but! he voted for neither bc he was voting for funeral and it was important for funeral to remain a counterwagon to his partner in crime, italianoVEEDEE. DUN DUN DUN

[Gretchen]

so you'd go for Cookie based on logic which is dependent on Italiano being maf?

[Gretchen]

uh. no. why not just vote Italiano there instead? i think i have them on the ropes guys

[Gretchen]

okay i'll be back in a bit guys. don't send anything just yet

[Gretchen]

VT all the way.

I havr FOS on Gret and Sam. Gamma and HUB town. The rest are still null.

wait. why'd you think you were dead here?

[Gretchen]

Yeah I don't really mind if Gretchen flips scum lol

For a second I was confused because I couldn't even remember for a moment who you were pushing. Do you think Gretchen is scum like trying to destabilize townblock or what do you think of her recent play? Given how inspired you seem about the push you don't seem to be pushing it all that hard?

The inconsistencies and one-sidedness in their push on me. This is not a knock on whatever level of experience they have. Since Gret has stated she wasn't aware of RVSing then I do not take the push as light-hearted fun. They wanted to push me and "forced" some reasons that contradicted other posts.

For example, the Gret says low-posters are more likely scum, though at the time I was the highest poster.

The role PM "green" thing. Role PM colors had already been discussed but Gret's timing of it just felt WAAAAAY forced. IIRC, this might be the only thing Gret kinda walked back. Which is weird because I think she felt like she messed up there. Town Gret wouldn't care, probably would have checked the role PM for the color before posting.

Gret said I was scum for voting someone before they posted. My vote was the first player post of the game, yet Gret had no problems with any other naked vote on non-active players at the beginning of the game.

In short, Gret wanted to get on my wagon since it already had a few votes and just tried to justify it with weak and contridictory reasons.

i don't think you're maf bc i think italiano is. forgive me for reading you incorrectly and let's move past this?

[Gretchen]

I mean that more like we shouldn't let scum stay around just because they are having fun. Everyone should have fun playing the game.

i'm town having fun, i promise you!

[Gretchen]

hub. i'm surprised i've slipped further down for you after recent posting, why's that? italiano is fairly obv maf

[Gretchen]

i wasn't surprised at the vote itself, it's like the reasons you gave with em which are dodgy. like, you don't even find the post maf yourself, but others think it's maf so you wanna vote there. and then in a later post you're saying you're voting for what you think is not-town. so. what is it? sounds like an excuse for you to set up a wagon on me when i'm town while denying all responsibility for it, bc technically

you're

not the one that thought i was maf, you were just voting based on what other people said. the more i talk about it the more i think it's really bad

you didn't reply to this italiano

[Gretchen]

Funeral:
green equals town in my head, i seriously wasn't thinking of the color
i was never confident you were maf. early on you just go on whatever little things or info you have, so i voted you bc it was the only thing i could find. don't take it too personally please and put aside any emotional bias. italiano is maf taking advantage of your vote on me to vote alongside you and don't let me become a counterwagon to you and have the day be town vs town when we have ITALIANO as an obv maf sitting here. i believe in you my goose. let's be friends?
i think you're town bc i don't think italiano follows your vote to vote me and have 2 maf be the first two voters on a counterwagon to maf. looks really bad later

[Gretchen]

oh wait the goose wagon doesn't even exist anymore lmao. uh besides the point, basically, just want us to be friends and for you to help me out on italiano <3

[Gretchen]

noooooooooooooooooooooo

[Gretchen]

where do you find italiano genuine Ydrasse? him not understanding bearded or being confused about alts will be genuine regardless of whether he's maf or town! but the way he's hunting for maf is not

[Gretchen]

which was very townie

[Gretchen]

slightly townie? i think town can change their mind like that on a whim more than maf fake it

[Gretchen]

VOTE: cookie monster

the entire thing about calling out lunar for asking questions while doing it at the same time and then missing the point of why it’s hypocritical seems like, purposefully obtuse and also tying esoteric to lunar makes me feel ungood

that's a personality tell for cookie rather than her being maf or town

[Gretchen]

her not realizing that it's hypocritical for her to push someone that was doing the same thing she was doing. in her mind, she's thinking

but i actually had those thoughts and i've given them now so it doesn't count

, and i think she really believes that regardless of whether she's maf or town, and isn't playing dumb

[Gretchen]

cookie's just easy bait but she's probably town frankly

[Gretchen]

cookie i give you permission to speak for yourself on this lmao

[Gretchen]

woooooooooo

VOTE: ItalianoVD

[Gretchen]

what do you think is the meaning of life?

[Gretchen]

what do you think is the meaning of life?

reproduction

hmm

[Gretchen]

what am i to you italiano

[Gretchen]

quoting your entire iso into one post

[Gretchen]

oh wait the goose wagon doesn't even exist anymore lmao. uh besides the point, basically, just want us to be friends and for you to help me out on italiano <3

Wow, come on really.

you should've just said if you wanted to be friends too

[Gretchen]

so italiano, why is your vote still on me if you think i'm tunneling town?

[Gretchen]

This isn't a push to lim yet
also, why does "wanting to chomp mafia" mean anything?

no way maf can come up with something so witty

[Gretchen]

what a pointless question!

[Gretchen]

you're kidding Battle Mage. right? i can't actually tell

[Gretchen]

italiano your town reads are entirely gut while you have specific reasons for your maf ones. do you think there's a reason for that?

[Gretchen]

bc italiano is maf and was scared i'd get him voted out today. pls kill him tommorow if i don't survive the night. thanks

[Gretchen]

i really mean that post. i'll be mad after the game if i die and you don't get italiano day 2. i quoted his whole iso bc his whole iso was maf lmao. so uh don't overthink this and literally just kill him for that hammer alone. like, he's not the type of player to randomly hammer like that, there's some clear maf agenda and survivalism behind it. possible partners are Gamma as explained already, and also hub for pretty much going on all wagons except for italiano's. oh and also battle mage

italiano/gamma/hub/battle mage is my thesis