^this is a wolf. <- this is a non-RVS read.In post 17, Pavowski wrote:Hi all! May the odds be in your favor, unless you're mafia, in which case, a plague on your house.
The gods have dictated that I should VOTE: Taco to kick things off, and so I shall. Even though I love your username.
@Shrek, if you use the "reply" button instead of the quick reply box at the bottom of the page, there's a button above the text window labeled "Vote" that will automatically format your vote -- you just put the player's name in between the tags.
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Tacotime townlean.
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No, I am townleaing Dwlee99 there, not you.In post 34, Taco Hemingway wrote:I accept this pocket for now, as it is useful to me having 1 less loud voter
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It means that I think you and Taco have >rand chance of being mafia together, and your exchange was an attempt to make it look like you didn't just have a similar conversation in scumchat.In post 37, Shrek wrote:how can i change your mind if i dont know what that means-
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Surprisingly, this did...In post 40, Taco Hemingway wrote:That's garbage nonsense.
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In post 42, Taco Hemingway wrote:your analysis thus far has 0 basis in logic. I have no choice but to conclude you pulled those posts out of your ass.
Lol! The juxtposition of these two posts:PIn post 43, Shrek wrote:yeah thats a fair assumption to make tbh. it would be a good distancing tactic if it were the real thing so im fine with you thinking that until more info comes in. i know im town though so obviously i can confirm its wrong but i understand my word dont got much weight there. honestly im happy youre poking at stuff already tbh
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It is a leap, sure, but it isn't a complete nonsense conclusion, and the point is to see how people react. So far, you are reacting very defensively.In post 46, Taco Hemingway wrote:I don't genuinely believe that Seanzie actually made that kind of leap of logic in accusing Shrek and I of fake interactions.
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Uhh, I don't do the predit thing, so no. I didn't see that post before I made mine.In post 50, Taco Hemingway wrote:In post 47, Seanzie wrote:In post 42, Taco Hemingway wrote:your analysis thus far has 0 basis in logic. I have no choice but to conclude you pulled those posts out of your ass.
Lol! The juxtposition of these two posts:PIn post 43, Shrek wrote:yeah thats a fair assumption to make tbh. it would be a good distancing tactic if it were the real thing so im fine with you thinking that until more info comes in. i know im town though so obviously i can confirm its wrong but i understand my word dont got much weight there. honestly im happy youre poking at stuff already tbh
Taco, is Shrek also basing nothing in logic here? Shrek seems to think my assumption is fair, perhaps wrong, but fair. You seem to have the exact opposite opinion.
you sure have selective reading, don't you?In post 45, Taco Hemingway wrote:
weird reaction to someone who just called you scum, wouldn't you say?In post 43, Shrek wrote:yeah thats a fair assumption to make tbh. it would be a good distancing tactic if it were the real thing so im fine with you thinking that until more info comes in. i know im town though so obviously i can confirm its wrong but i understand my word dont got much weight there. honestly im happy youre poking at stuff already tbh
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What else is there to tell? Do you disagree with my assessment that you're being defensive?In post 53, Taco Hemingway wrote:
Oh yeah?In post 51, Seanzie wrote:
It is a leap, sure, but it isn't a complete nonsense conclusion, and the point is to see how people react. So far, you are reacting very defensively.In post 46, Taco Hemingway wrote:I don't genuinely believe that Seanzie actually made that kind of leap of logic in accusing Shrek and I of fake interactions.
In fact, my errors in how I perceived them should have tipped them off easily that this was a genuine interaction. It's a complete nonsense conclusion that is meant to discredit 2 people at once.
Please tell me more
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Yes, I do. Throwing insults like this and empty threats around are further signs of defensiveness though.In post 57, Taco Hemingway wrote:Do you disagree with my assessment that you're full of shit?-
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I've already made my intention very clear. I'm seeing how you react.In post 59, Taco Hemingway wrote:Lmao just realized I'm not on my main and I can't just tell you to go search my meta and see for themselves what you think of how I'm playing so far.
Regardless, why point out I'm defensive? What's your intent with that?
So far you look like a wolf who is pissed off that you got called out early. It is possible I'm misreading the situation, and townies can get defensive too, but the way you're lashing out about it suggests that you aren't dispirited town, but instead are frustrated wolf.
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First, I didn't make anything up. I stated a read.In post 60, Taco Hemingway wrote:Seanzie, honest question that's important: what's the expected townie response to you when someone makes something up against them? What do you expect a townie to do in that situation.
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I'll vote whom I please when I please, thank you very much.In post 65, Taco Hemingway wrote:In post 63, Seanzie wrote:
I've already made my intention very clear. I'm seeing how you react.In post 59, Taco Hemingway wrote:Lmao just realized I'm not on my main and I can't just tell you to go search my meta and see for themselves what you think of how I'm playing so far.
Regardless, why point out I'm defensive? What's your intent with that?
So far you look like a wolf who is pissed off that you got called out early. It is possible I'm misreading the situation, and townies can get defensive too, but the way you're lashing out about it suggests that you aren't dispirited town, but instead are frustrated wolf.
I could be wrong, so feel free to town it up, but for now, you're going at the bottom of my list.
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Do you have anything other than OMGUS to back this up with?
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I think you severely overestimate my opinion of your play, but knowing you are you is helpful.In post 72, Taco Hemingway wrote:
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If it isn't OMGUS, it is just because you don't understand common tactics. Overstating reads and pushes in the early game is a great way to get the game going. If you are town, I'd think you'd appreciate a move out of RVS, but I'm not sure you are town.In post 74, Taco Hemingway wrote:I was evaluating if your push on me was in good faith or if it was made with intent to simply discredit me + be as uncharitable as possible towards me.
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If you are concluding that this is reasonable, but my push on you was not... well... idk what to say.In post 79, Taco Hemingway wrote:
Do you think this is an unreasonable conclusion to come to based on the first 2 posts?In post 19, Taco Hemingway wrote:So Shrek is an alt that's purposefully doing a gimmick. Cool.
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Why? Because my push actually had logic (albeit loose page 1 logic) behind it? I noticed a possible teammate interaction. I mentioned it in thread. You got super defensive about it, so I pushed more, and eventually you OMGUS'd me at the end of it. This is typical wolf behavior.In post 100, Taco Hemingway wrote:
Your push and my gutread on entrance are not the same. Stop comparing it.In post 97, Seanzie wrote:
If you are concluding that this is reasonable, but my push on you was not... well... idk what to say.In post 79, Taco Hemingway wrote:
Do you think this is an unreasonable conclusion to come to based on the first 2 posts?In post 19, Taco Hemingway wrote:So Shrek is an alt that's purposefully doing a gimmick. Cool.
T3 feels performative in their initial postings and replies, don't vibe with their tone so far.
The only thing that gives me pause on my read is the fact that I know you can be very rude and arrogant as town, so some parts of your reaction can be explained by that. I will have to see how you play moving forward, but your T3 "gut read" (Is it a gut read? Calling T3 performative doesn't feel like a gut read, but an analysis of his posts) is bad, so 0 points from me there.-
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Care to add anything meaningful to the thread?In post 119, Pavowski wrote:
Whaaaaat?? Me??In post 30, Seanzie wrote:
^this is a wolf. <- this is a non-RVS read.In post 17, Pavowski wrote:Hi all! May the odds be in your favor, unless you're mafia, in which case, a plague on your house.
The gods have dictated that I should VOTE: Taco to kick things off, and so I shall. Even though I love your username.
@Shrek, if you use the "reply" button instead of the quick reply box at the bottom of the page, there's a button above the text window labeled "Vote" that will automatically format your vote -- you just put the player's name in between the tags.
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Nothing is indicative of anything in isolation. Taco's reaction to me mentioning teammate equity was way overblown though, they immediately went towards trying to discredit my thoughts by saying it had "0 logic" rather than trying to see if I am town (they purport they were doing that, but I don't buy it). When I brought up that they were reacting defensively, they doubled down towards refusing to acknowledge what I was saying, and have time and time again tried to dismiss the conversation, until eventually they OMGUSed.In post 126, tris wrote:
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Why? Because my push actually had logic (albeit loose page 1 logic) behind it? I noticed a possible teammate interaction. I mentioned it in thread. You got super defensive about it, so I pushed more, and eventually you OMGUS'd me at the end of it. This is typical wolf behavior.In post 100, Taco Hemingway wrote:
Your push and my gutread on entrance are not the same. Stop comparing it.In post 97, Seanzie wrote:
If you are concluding that this is reasonable, but my push on you was not... well... idk what to say.In post 79, Taco Hemingway wrote:
Do you think this is an unreasonable conclusion to come to based on the first 2 posts?In post 19, Taco Hemingway wrote:So Shrek is an alt that's purposefully doing a gimmick. Cool.
T3 feels performative in their initial postings and replies, don't vibe with their tone so far.
The only thing that gives me pause on my read is the fact that I know you can be very rude and arrogant as town, so some parts of your reaction can be explained by that. I will have to see how you play moving forward, but your T3 "gut read" (Is it a gut read? Calling T3 performative doesn't feel like a gut read, but an analysis of his posts) is bad, so 0 points from me there.
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https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 30#p807580In post 128, Taco Hemingway wrote:Link me a single game where you catch a "fake interaction" or fabricate an interaction like that yourself - shouldn't be hard if it was a legitimate read because clearly it would have to be based on something you saw before because its so wild and weird that it has to exactly involve those 2 scenarios, unless you completely made it up to doubly discred both of us.
And its not "typical wolf behavior." Now you're just straight attributing townleaning things as scummy - I'm not budging off your slot till either of us are dead.
Several people here have played with me here and know what I'm saying is true so indeed, reality will favor me in the end.
Two of my friends from down under fake figuring out that each other are Aussie in thread, even though they were wolves, and literally had a conversation about this in wolfchat beforehand.
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In post 133, Taco Hemingway wrote:Seanzie: I don't know how to expect a townie to react here
Also seanzie: i am so sure that taco is reacting like scum hereNope, that isn't what I said at all. Townies can react in all sorts of ways, so I cannot enumerate all towny reactions for you. asking "how would a towny react in this situation?" is not a productive question since it is unanswerable.-
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A common tactic in this game is to overstate reads at the beginning of the game to get things started. I agree that my initial push on you had very little behind it. I wasn't making a lock!scum case, but trying to see how you and the thread react.In post 136, Taco Hemingway wrote:Looks like that game was WELL underway when the fake convo started.
I can cede that you can think of such a conclusion - but it's still wrong as hell.
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Petition denied. Turbo eliming only benefits scum. Even if Shrek is a hit, we wasted precious D1 time to form reads.In post 141, Dwlee99 wrote:Petition to turboelim Shrek-
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There is a subset of people who react like that, but I think out of experienced player that subset is small since defiance does little good to threadhealth and doesn't really contribute to collective worldbuilding. You are someone I can see as reacting defiantly though, which is why I am rethinking my stance on you, but I am only vaguely familiar with you as a player, so I'm taking my limited meta with a grain of salt.In post 144, Taco Hemingway wrote:
Well generally, I expect a townie to react with defiance when accused of something that is implying they are scum. A scum would be much nicer because they know the accusation is true and thus seek to justify and placate.In post 139, Seanzie wrote:In post 133, Taco Hemingway wrote:Seanzie: I don't know how to expect a townie to react here
Also seanzie: i am so sure that taco is reacting like scum hereNope, that isn't what I said at all. Townies can react in all sorts of ways, so I cannot enumerate all towny reactions for you. asking "how would a towny react in this situation?" is not a productive question since it is unanswerable.
This should be able to explain my most recent movements
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In post 153, tris wrote:
it seems very believable to me that they saw the read as having 0 logic.In post 131, Seanzie wrote: Nothing is indicative of anything in isolation. Taco's reaction to me mentioning teammate equity was way overblown though, they immediately went towards trying to discredit my thoughts by saying it had "0 logic" rather than trying to see if I am town (they purport they were doing that, but I don't buy it).i for one, don't see why scum would go out of their way to fake that interaction especially since it's an interaction scum could genuinely have.and, one way someone might try to sort someone, is by calling out what they see as scummy. just because they're tone was aggressive doesn't mean they're not trying to sort you.When I brought up that they were reacting defensively, they doubled down towards refusing to acknowledge what I was saying, and have time and time again tried to dismiss the conversation, until eventually they OMGUSed.what exactly were they refusing to acknowledge?You don't see the scum benefit of faking an interaction to make them not look teamed? When I'm scum, if one of my scummates asks me certain types of questions, I refuse to answer in scumchat and make them ask me in the thread specifically to build those sorts of interactions into the thread.
That my push, while too early to be solid, had logical foundations. They didn't take the time to step back and evaluate it critically.-
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What is wrong? If it is in regards to the size of that subset, that might be a cultural difference, because among the people I commonly play with, Taco's behavior is uncommon except for among new people or when someone become particularly frustrated (and it was too early for me to think that Taco was truly frustrated at the beginning of our exchange). If it is in regards to the analysis of the outcome of that sort of reaction, and why it is anti-town, idk what to tell you other than cooperation wins more games than defiance IMO.In post 154, tris wrote:
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There is a subset of people who react like that, but I think out of experienced player that subset is small since defiance does little good to threadhealth and doesn't really contribute to collective worldbuilding.In post 144, Taco Hemingway wrote:
Well generally, I expect a townie to react with defiance when accused of something that is implying they are scum. A scum would be much nicer because they know the accusation is true and thus seek to justify and placate.In post 139, Seanzie wrote:In post 133, Taco Hemingway wrote:Seanzie: I don't know how to expect a townie to react here
Also seanzie: i am so sure that taco is reacting like scum hereNope, that isn't what I said at all. Townies can react in all sorts of ways, so I cannot enumerate all towny reactions for you. asking "how would a towny react in this situation?" is not a productive question since it is unanswerable.
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Instead of begging for your life, can you give thoughts on anyone? If you're town, prove it by giving us depth.In post 157, Shrek wrote:tris youre supposed to help me out hereeee
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I'm not saying that I had a lock!scum case on Taco and Shrek when I made that post, or even a strong case. I've explained this numerous times. Have you read my posts? If you truly don't have enough information based on my previous posts to tell what I was doing, please ask again, but at this point, I'd be repeating myself for I think the third time.In post 165, tris wrote:
but like, it's not fake in that case. how is that distinguishable town asking questions. sure, scum might want to have such interactions in here rather than in their thread, but it's not like they wouldn't have asked those sorts of questions if they were town.In post 158, Seanzie wrote:In post 153, tris wrote:
it seems very believable to me that they saw the read as having 0 logic.In post 131, Seanzie wrote: Nothing is indicative of anything in isolation. Taco's reaction to me mentioning teammate equity was way overblown though, they immediately went towards trying to discredit my thoughts by saying it had "0 logic" rather than trying to see if I am town (they purport they were doing that, but I don't buy it).i for one, don't see why scum would go out of their way to fake that interaction especially since it's an interaction scum could genuinely have.and, one way someone might try to sort someone, is by calling out what they see as scummy. just because they're tone was aggressive doesn't mean they're not trying to sort you.When I brought up that they were reacting defensively, they doubled down towards refusing to acknowledge what I was saying, and have time and time again tried to dismiss the conversation, until eventually they OMGUSed.what exactly were they refusing to acknowledge?You don't see the scum benefit of faking an interaction to make them not look teamed? When I'm scum, if one of my scummates asks me certain types of questions, I refuse to answer in scumchat and make them ask me in the thread specifically to build those sorts of interactions into the thread.
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In post 167, Shrek wrote:town leaning:
seanzie: my personal belief is that seanzie is town for moving the game out of the early phase with all of the fluff and into the actual discussion. i think that it would benefit scum to waste time, sit back, and let other people incriminate themselves which is not something that seanzie has really done. a key focal point of mafia is examining players and going 'how does what they're doing benefit the mafia in any way, shape, or form?' the answer is that seanzie's own spat is not a good look in case he does happen to be mafia and he seems experienced enough to know not to do that if he does end up becoming scum. at least that's what i've gathered from him and his questioning, no matter how nitpicky it is.
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T3: yeah, i'm not really sure what to make of him here. part of me thinks that he wouldn't really draw this much attention to himself if he was mafia? i dunno i think that the interaction between him and taco is t/t and we're wasting our time by arguing mostly about semantics instead of the real stuff.
taco: i think him acting defiant was kind of a bad look for him so early on in the game, but scum would probably not go THAT far to the point of attacking seanzie like that for simply throwing out a light read. like why would he start to tunnel there instead of just leaving it at a convenient point instead of going on with all the effort for several pages. that doesnt seem like mafia to me
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tris: not enough information to actually determine it,but i want to keep herbecause dark rey and avocado are best buds and she knows it.
all of the people who have under 5 posts: yeah i have nothing from these people and for all we know all three scum could be lurking within there
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dwlee: i see little benefit to giving little reasoning beyond the vote for a joking response to something. obviously i know why they suspect me (because i'm acting nonchalant about being accused), but like. come on. its an hour in, why would i start a fight as mafia OR town.i didnt wanna dogpile on seanziefor making one wrong read and im actually grateful to him for deciding to make that early play. like he said it starts getting the game moving and i know im town so im not reading too much into it. regardless i think that dwlee should explain some of his reasoning behind his reads on people and his motives for voting me
beyond that i dont really have any reads since these people have been really the only ones with solid contributions or things to be pointed out thus farWhen were you worried about a dogpile on me?
Can you elaborate on your read of T3?
Why did you mention Tris here if you had nothing to say?What does this mean? You want to keep her ... what? where? how? I feel like there is part of this sentence missing.-
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Your overly-agreeable post towards me happened well before Taco and I escalated beyond Taco saying my analysis is garbage. I have a hard time thinking that you'd interpret that exchange as a dogpile on me. You suggesting that you wanting to avoid a dogpile on me as your reason for being so agreeable seems disingenuous.In post 169, Shrek wrote:like at the start when taco was saying that you were full of shit and stuff like that. i didnt want this game to be too bitter and harsh and he was already laying into you-- if you are town, then us fighting really does nothing and onlyputs the attention on us. i was just trying to defuse the situation cause i dont think fighting and going around in circles gets the town anywhere. i also dont know why id lay into you for placing a mild sus based on a single interaction. idk ive been REALLY cringe in past games when i come off as overly defensive so maybe i'm overcorrecting in this one
uhhh i think that t3 and taco going at each other (with t3's own 'stilted' start) is just something based off of a dumb snap read that doesn't really indicate t3 of any alignment one way or the others. t3's handling of the situation in picking that fight with taco makes me think that he and taco are both town though
tris and i played two lsgs before and they were both funny so i wanna keep playing with her here since she's the only person i know. if i didnt know her i would probably leave her off the list
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In post 173, Shrek wrote:i'm worried about attention because if we're all townies it means that we could be dropped one by one by one for taking up the vocal majority while scum could just be lurking or inactive or just one of the people who hasn't talked right now.
if you want i can actually claim my role just so we dont like. mislynch right in the beginning of the game.i dont really care if i'm a nightkill since my role is not very useful and it would alleviate suspicion from me so i'm more than happy to be open right now.So, this is a very obvious soft. What is your thought process behind this soft?-
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Do you know what the vote count is?In post 175, Shrek wrote:my thought process behind this soft is that my role is not a power role and it will not hurt town that much if i get nightkilled for saying it. and claiming in the day and having more avenues looked at would be more beneficial than just focusing on me for the rest of it.-
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Care to share your thoughts on Shrek?In post 178, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
No I think notIn post 141, Dwlee99 wrote:Petition to turboelim Shrek-
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In post 182, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Yeah I like shrek tonally. He feels open. Up to 141 I felt this already.He has a strange looking wall after that though, there were some points in there that feel wrong to me.
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Please explain this.In post 194, Dwlee99 wrote:Okay I'm kind of trolling: so17 is LAMISTand then 119 is a bad reaction to something which doesn't comment on 100 posts that had happened between his first and second posts.-
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I've been pretty clear with my thoughts. If you review my ISO and still question why I've voted you, please ask again.In post 203, Shrek wrote:what are your current thoughts about me that made you wanna vote that way?-
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I know what LAMIST is, what about that post do you interpret as LAMIST?In post 233, Dwlee99 wrote:
It means "Look at me I'm so town"In post 195, Seanzie wrote:
Please explain this.In post 194, Dwlee99 wrote:Okay I'm kind of trolling: so17 is LAMISTand then 119 is a bad reaction to something which doesn't comment on 100 posts that had happened between his first and second posts.-
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This is very hedgy. I know you said you couldn't hazard a guess yet, but I firmly believe you could, and should.In post 259, Pavowski wrote:
No, they stand out as blustery and doing a lot of work to make their first impressions mean something. I mean:In post 247, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Lucifer you gotta use your vote.
Pavowski - of Taco, Seanzie, T3, Shrek - do any of their early pushes stand out for a specific reason as scummy?
Just to grab an example from recently in the thread, I see this. How can you make a statement like this with any degree of certainty at this stage in the game? The game is less than 24 hours old, day 1 is less than 10% done. Confidence, at this point, feels like bluster.In post 234, T3 wrote:Shrek and Salsa are town.
Whether that's blustery town trying to drive investigations or blustery scum trying to *steer* investigations, I couldn't hazard a guess yet.
I should also point out I'm not saying those interactions don't mean anything. But I have no idea what they mean so far.
Gun to head, which of those people are blustery town and which are blustery scum? If you can give reasons why you think one way or the other, great, but I'll be content for now with just "town" or "scum" on each slot.-
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I'm not expecting like full fleshed out godreads on everyone. Are there posts you liked? Posts you didn't like? Do you have any gut reads on people? I have a hard time imagining that you did a readthrough and didn't come out with any critical thoughts on anyone or anything.In post 305, Zyla wrote:I've only done my first readthrough, and there are enough people here that it's gonna be hard for me to get any reads just off of that, I'm looking through ISOs now-
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I really didn't like your first few posts, but your thoughts on Dwlee here look good. I just looked through their ISO, and it doesn't make me feel good about them at all. They're making weak pushes on easy-to-push slots while trying to force themselves into a towncore, which they haven't earned yet.In post 308, Zyla wrote:Dwlee99 - leaning scum on
What makes Tris or you towny?In post 127, Dwlee99 wrote:Tris we are town block now. Okay?
... Just to clarify, is this a joke?In post 171, Dwlee99 wrote:My reasoning is all there Shrek.
At the time that you posted this, Pav had two posts, and the first few posts in a game tend to be joking, so how is this enough to be a bad ISO?In post 193, Dwlee99 wrote:Bad ISO
Pav - slight town-lean, no particular posts stood out
Salsabil is mostly null with a slight town-lean, but then there's this post.
I'm not sure what about this particularly fits LAMIST, could you elaborate?In post 296, Salsabil Faria wrote:In post 288, Taco Hemingway wrote:Stop defending your shit logic with shutdowns and instead ellaborate on it or acknowledge its flawed.
And i asked you what the definition of omgus is. Answer it.I'll do what I want to do, you don't owe me.
Can't believe you're using LAMIST card rn!! So much for playing several games....
I'mma townlean you based on this post, and also rescind my early game townlean on Dwlee, and even switch it to a light scumread on Dwlee.-
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When you wake up (or before you go to bed if you want), please elaborate on your reads of me and Dwlee.In post 309, Salsabil Faria wrote:In post 300, Titus wrote:Taco, Sasil your fight is drowning out my attempts to ease back in. Can you talk about your reads on other slots?It's my bedtime, so can't hear from me for a long time of period eventually.
Townlean:Seanzie
Nulltown:Dwlee99
Nullscum:tris
Scumlean:Taco HemingwayorShrek
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I did look at your ISO, and there isn't much there about me or Dwlee.In post 313, Salsabil Faria wrote:In post 312, Seanzie wrote:
When you wake up (or before you go to bed if you want), please elaborate on your reads of me and Dwlee.In post 309, Salsabil Faria wrote:In post 300, Titus wrote:Taco, Sasil your fight is drowning out my attempts to ease back in. Can you talk about your reads on other slots?It's my bedtime, so can't hear from me for a long time of period eventually.
Townlean:Seanzie
Nulltown:Dwlee99
Nullscum:tris
Scumlean:Taco HemingwayorShrek
Rests are null for not enough content or I can't formulate any read on them yet.Check my ISO, it's there.
For me, the only post where you take a stance about me is here:
A naked "town post". Is this the only thing you're townreading me for, or is there more? Also, what exactly makes this such a townpost in your mind, enough to put me as your top townread?In post 207, Salsabil Faria wrote:In post 63, Seanzie wrote:
I've already made my intention very clear. I'm seeing how you react.In post 59, Taco Hemingway wrote:Lmao just realized I'm not on my main and I can't just tell you to go search my meta and see for themselves what you think of how I'm playing so far.
Regardless, why point out I'm defensive? What's your intent with that?
So far you look like a wolf who is pissed off that you got called out early. It is possible I'm misreading the situation, and townies can get defensive too, but the way you're lashing out about it suggests that you aren't dispirited town, but instead are frustrated wolf.
I could be wrong, so feel free to town it up, but for now, you're going at the bottom of my list.Town post.
For Dwlee:
I don't necessarily agree with the idea that scum!them wouldn't ask this. Is this meta based, or based off how wolves play? Also, there is a TON of other stuff in Dwlee's ISO. Do you have any more thoughts about anything else regarding them?In post 250, Salsabil Faria wrote:Dwlee99maybe town here because I don’t think scum!them need to ask this question, seems like they wants to sortPavowskihere.
Saying "check my ISO" was not satisfactory here. You haven't given much content on these slots, so I'd like to see what you're thinking here.-
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Uhh, confirming even one person is not worthless.In post 319, Shrek wrote:yes my role is a weak power role that's hard to actually confirm and there's a probability that it ends up worthless beyond like. confirming one or two people at most-
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I would expect if you were town here, you'd at least be able to explain via one or two sentences the jist of your reason for townreading me and leaning town on Dwlee.In post 324, Salsabil Faria wrote:In post 318, Seanzie wrote:
I did look at your ISO, and there isn't much there about me or Dwlee.In post 313, Salsabil Faria wrote:In post 312, Seanzie wrote:
When you wake up (or before you go to bed if you want), please elaborate on your reads of me and Dwlee.In post 309, Salsabil Faria wrote:In post 300, Titus wrote:Taco, Sasil your fight is drowning out my attempts to ease back in. Can you talk about your reads on other slots?It's my bedtime, so can't hear from me for a long time of period eventually.
Townlean:Seanzie
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Nullscum:tris
Scumlean:Taco HemingwayorShrek
Rests are null for not enough content or I can't formulate any read on them yet.Check my ISO, it's there.
For me, the only post where you take a stance about me is here:
A naked "town post". Is this the only thing you're townreading me for, or is there more? Also, what exactly makes this such a townpost in your mind, enough to put me as your top townread?In post 207, Salsabil Faria wrote:In post 63, Seanzie wrote:
I've already made my intention very clear. I'm seeing how you react.In post 59, Taco Hemingway wrote:Lmao just realized I'm not on my main and I can't just tell you to go search my meta and see for themselves what you think of how I'm playing so far.
Regardless, why point out I'm defensive? What's your intent with that?
So far you look like a wolf who is pissed off that you got called out early. It is possible I'm misreading the situation, and townies can get defensive too, but the way you're lashing out about it suggests that you aren't dispirited town, but instead are frustrated wolf.
I could be wrong, so feel free to town it up, but for now, you're going at the bottom of my list.Town post.
For Dwlee:
I don't necessarily agree with the idea that scum!them wouldn't ask this. Is this meta based, or based off how wolves play? Also, there is a TON of other stuff in Dwlee's ISO. Do you have any more thoughts about anything else regarding them?In post 250, Salsabil Faria wrote:Dwlee99maybe town here because I don’t think scum!them need to ask this question, seems like they wants to sortPavowskihere.
Saying "check my ISO" was not satisfactory here. You haven't given much content on these slots, so I'd like to see what you're thinking here.Not up for any hard work atm.... will give reasons later if feel to.
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Why Dwlee town?In post 335, Taco Hemingway wrote:but also dwlee is town too come back and vote kyouko for summit-
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If you continue to not do anything productive with your time unless pressured to, then eventually I may push the thread to chop you.In post 338, Shrek wrote:
so youll let me live?In post 320, Seanzie wrote:
Uhh, confirming even one person is not worthless.In post 319, Shrek wrote:yes my role is a weak power role that's hard to actually confirm and there's a probability that it ends up worthless beyond like. confirming one or two people at most-
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We have until hammer, which may be significantly sooner than 9 days. Besides, why wait? Clearly the game has started and there is more then enough content to sort through. Delaying giving reads and collective worldbuilding only benefits scum.In post 342, Shrek wrote:we've still got nine days bruh-
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I agree with you. I'm not suggesting we rush the elim, I'm just saying that it is unclear if we will have a 9 day D1, and there is no reason not to start playing now.In post 348, Taco Hemingway wrote:rushing elims helps scum.-
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I hope you eventually change playstyles.
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Do you know what an ISO is?In post 404, Galaxis wrote:
I cant go though the entire game to just read their posts! Thats too difficult >->In post 401, Taco Hemingway wrote:
Im asking you to read them yourself and make your own conclusionsIn post 399, Galaxis wrote:
watIn post 383, Taco Hemingway wrote:
well you can ISO them yourself and tell me what you thinkIn post 382, Galaxis wrote:
Why should i vote them? What did they do wrong? .>.In post 378, Taco Hemingway wrote:
ssbm kyoukoIn post 377, Galaxis wrote:Omg, 16 pages already?! Its only been a day! I cant read all of that so uhh who should i vote >~<
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In post 408, Galaxis wrote:In post 407, Seanzie wrote:
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