I willIn post 1406, Jacket wrote:So, T3...result?
Mini Normal 2242 | Opossum Mafia | Game Over!
-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
yesIn post 1403, Dwlee99 wrote:
Did you miss this post?In post 1345, fua wrote:I think you should give me a chance to prove myself by flipping someone else. I don't want to claim unless I absolutely have to.-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
In post 1418, Save The Dragons wrote:t3 why don't you want to out the resultI won't say.
-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
I have a very good reason which cookie also knows.In post 1418, Save The Dragons wrote:t3 why don't you want to out the result-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
They know I'm town and they know my result.I don't want to answer any more questions because that could potentially give scum info but they can confirm what I'm saying is true.In post 1424, House wrote:
How does cookie know?In post 1422, T3 wrote:
I have a very good reason which cookie also knows.In post 1418, Save The Dragons wrote:t3 why don't you want to out the result-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
A lot of pr shenanigans. I'll wait for cookie to come here and confirm though.
-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
cookie knows stuff that strongly implies my claim is true. And I know that cookie knows this stuff. And cookie should know my result.In post 1431, House wrote:That's cool and all, but... how can cookie "know" you're town?
If you're softing that they have information from the mod, firm it up, because a "read" is not "knowledge".-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
I did it. Look and see.In post 1435, cool cookie wrote:
I can confirm I have info which supports T3's claim. I do not have certainty T3 is town (although if I did, it's unlikely I'd want to say so and paint a big target on their back), but I absolutely would oppose elimming them today.In post 1433, T3 wrote:
cookie knows stuff that strongly implies my claim is true. And I know that cookie knows this stuff. And cookie should know my result.In post 1431, House wrote:That's cool and all, but... how can cookie "know" you're town?
If you're softing that they have information from the mod, firm it up, because a "read" is not "knowledge".
T3 - is your result evident publicly? or should i simply know, irrespective of that?-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
I saw a traitor/scum hood in a recent game.In post 1470, redtea wrote:@t3 while theres almost guaranteed scum in a 3person neighborhood, I really dont think thats the case if its a 2person one?
Also did you mean, like, an actual s/s neighbourhood? this should be only 1 faction mafia right? And I really dont think it's likely traitor and scum would end up in the same neighborhood.
So like. What.-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
what.In post 1450, Three wrote:
This is getting really dumb. It's no secret that I asked you and redtea to target me last night so that I could get cleared from both being scum and traitor. I know I'm neither, but the entire point was to get everyone to decide if I'm on the chopping block today, especially since I did play a part in George's miselimination. If you have a guilty or inno on me, just say it. There's no "boxing scum into a corner" here.In post 1445, T3 wrote:I might. I might not. Either way, cookie knows my result. So if one of us dies the other person will know to potentially box scum into a corner later.
Thank you for actually giving information.In post 1448, redtea wrote:same a50
uh well I did but I didn't really keep who I was targeting a secret
PE: Uhhh what. Redtea was supposed to shoot me, not Dwlee. And shooting once doesn't clear anyone, redtea has to shoot twice to account for Bulletproof Traitor.-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
eOnce cookie is dead.In post 1468, redtea wrote:ive gone back and forth on it since then
but with t3 being weird... idk, if he intends to reveal his results after n2, then maybe we could wait. If not, I'd prefer we all claim, since I think it'd be more helpful than keeping a hypothetical protective role around.-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
I TARGETED JACKET AND GOT NO RESULTIn post 1495, Almost50 wrote:It IS TMI. T3 had just slipped real hard. Let's review the facts:
TRAITOR IS ENDGAMED IF THE MAIN TEAM IS ELIMINATED
2 players are outed as Neighbors
1 is now also outed as Mailman
A "can communicate" result is an outright guilty. WHy not claim it?
A "can't communicate" is enough evidence the target is not MAIN SCUM, so why keep it undercover?
T3 is PLAYING FOR TIME. H;s TAKING SU ALL FOR A RIDE. And if you add this to how long it took him to claim yesterday you get: T3 is OUTED SCUM.-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
In post 1401, T3 wrote:
No way… did I miss something?In post 1391, Dwlee99 wrote:Okay who would have fallen for thatIn post 1402, T3 wrote:
Really? Where?In post 1395, Dwlee99 wrote:
This ignores the NK bait they didIn post 1394, House wrote:The only reason I can see to kill fua is it scum was afraid of their reads.In post 1441, T3 wrote:JOh. You don't know?In post 1442, T3 wrote:Anyways, I'm don't think the neighbors are both town. Most of the games I've seen neighbors in they've been either s/s or t/s.In post 1443, T3 wrote:Combine this with the earlier thing and you should seeif you don't already.
Kay?-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
poe
pedit: yes-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
i'm literally an investigativeIn post 1548, Almost50 wrote:
??? You're acting so weird if I didn't already want to eliminate you I would now. Since when do you plead for your life like this??In post 1546, T3 wrote:please dont lim me-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
you asked if i had other readsIn post 1562, Jacket wrote:In post 1538, Jacket wrote:Do you have actual reads other than not liking me for pushing you?I don't think this is how a town PR getting run up acts. I asked if he had other reads and he just gave a "yes" in response.
i said yes
what else is there-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
VOTE: houseIn post 1564, House wrote:
Wtf.In post 1553, Almost50 wrote:@STD: Your "I don't want to lim T3" was the final nail. I already started thinking of the situation when House volunteered to be shot instead of you, and again when he asserted redtea should shoot three again. It looked like a blatant attempt to deter the shot off you (and confirmed the team doesn't have a RB), but if you had voted T3 I probably would have thought it was too crazy to be true.
I don't want StD shot because he hasn't claimed, and if redtea says he's going to shoot there it could out even more power.
Where's your head?!
VOTE: A50
scum whiteknighting-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
VOTE: a50In post 1577, House wrote:
You don't see the problem with TWO players claiming identical roles AS TOWN?In post 1576, Almost50 wrote:
Well.. I could lowkey see your point, with both BP neighbors designed to be -ve utilities for both sides. Scum get failed NKs and Town gets falls +ve (Via COMPLEX VIG though, NOT the TA/Neighbor Finder)In post 1567, Jacket wrote:
This is actually close to what I was thinking. Except it makes more sense for cool cookie to be the traitor, since mailman returns a positive to a traffic analyst but a negative to a neighbor finder.In post 1553, Almost50 wrote:T3's role was designed for Scum to identify their Traitor in at least 2 steps, and the Mailman is their "Miller" (gives them a false +ve)
That... completely flies over your head?
No. Just fucking no.
If you were town, you'd be screaming CC at Zen all day long.
lmao-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
I recently played a mini normal with 2 cops. But this is different.In post 1586, House wrote:
Can you link to a (completed) game that has 2 of the same roles where both are town-aligned that gives you that belief?In post 1585, TheZenMan wrote:
This is the part that actually made me trust A50 the most in the beginning. He had the same role as me, and disclosed his before I did. That's what made me trust him because I figured we have the exact same role. But I gues BP traitor neighbour would claim to be a BP neighbour. I also found it weird that A50 went straight to claiming BP instead of trying to bait a shot with claiming Vanlilla. Then later he regrets it...In post 1577, House wrote:
You don't see the problem with TWO players claiming identical roles AS TOWN?In post 1576, Almost50 wrote:
Well.. I could lowkey see your point, with both BP neighbors designed to be -ve utilities for both sides. Scum get failed NKs and Town gets falls +ve (Via COMPLEX VIG though, NOT the TA/Neighbor Finder)In post 1567, Jacket wrote:
This is actually close to what I was thinking. Except it makes more sense for cool cookie to be the traitor, since mailman returns a positive to a traffic analyst but a negative to a neighbor finder.In post 1553, Almost50 wrote:T3's role was designed for Scum to identify their Traitor in at least 2 steps, and the Mailman is their "Miller" (gives them a false +ve)
That... completely flies over your head?
No. Just fucking no.
If you were town, you'd be screaming CC at Zen all day long.
Last I knew, that doesn't happen BECAUSE it leads to town cc'ing town.-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
I genuinely didn't remember that when submitting.In post 1620, Three wrote:I'd vote T3 right now but I'm afraid he might self hammer.
I didn't ask redtea to shoot me to redirect a bullet away from scum. I asked to get shot because redtea was told not to shoot anyone, and I offered myself so that he'd at least have something to do. Then with T3's claim we had a way to clear me of being neither Mafia nor Traitor. Instead, he...targets Jacket.
The problem is not only did he not follow the plan, he didn't feel the need to check me even though he supposedly scum read me almost the entirety of Day 1. All this does is put me in a spot where people already don't trust me and then amplify it, since T3 purposely chose to keep my alignment unknown. He had no legitimate reason to check Jacket, and scum had no real reason not to kill T3.
T3's just scum claiming at this point.-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
WHAT IS THIS SHADEIn post 1702, Jacket wrote:The only proof we have of the existence of a bulletproof traitor is cool cookie's word. In a world where the bulletproof traitor is one of the neighbors with town, that puts them in an automatic CC on day 1. Does that make any sense as good setup design? Because it sounds terrible to me. Mafia would be put in a losing position from the start.
And if the neighbors were both mafia...wouldn't the traitor just claim to the other one?
Neither idea makes much sense to me.
independently of the hood i'd be townreading a50-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
because i'm townIn post 1752, Three wrote:I was baffled at first about why cookie got shot but it might have actually been big brain. It stops cookie from getting miseliminated and now we know for sure that there is a Traitor.
Why is T3 still alive?-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
indeed .-.In post 1749, Dwlee99 wrote:
I could have told you thatIn post 1746, T3 wrote:Dwlee is not a neighbor so that check is useless.-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
or scum just didn't want to nk me because i would be limbait in eloIn post 1753, T3 wrote:
because i'm townIn post 1752, Three wrote:I was baffled at first about why cookie got shot but it might have actually been big brain. It stops cookie from getting miseliminated and now we know for sure that there is a Traitor.
Why is T3 still alive?-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
Nah I have a meta tell on STD.In post 1765, Three wrote:If T3 is scum then he likely TMI'd that StD is town.-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
got no result n1, got dwlee is not a neighbor n2In post 1899, HawaiianPizza wrote:
what are T3's actionsIn post 1897, House wrote:
No result means either roleblock or *side eyes dwlee* ascetic.In post 1896, HawaiianPizza wrote:well, i assume T3 hasnt claimed being roleblocked.-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
yikesIn post 1914, Jacket wrote:I know who I'm snapvoting tomorrow.-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
dwlee no result. I assume scum have a roleblocker.In post 2002, House wrote:
*pops in*In post 1999, T3 wrote:Jacket, convince me you're town
I'm like
going to vote you
but convince me you're town
Results?
*pops out*-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
In post 1646, Jacket wrote:
This is seriously scummy.In post 1643, cool cookie wrote:
my guess is the gated vig is actually the traitor, and 1 of the claimed neighbours is group-scum (and the other is maybe bullet-proof)In post 1547, House wrote:Let's work this out...
Claims so far are:
Gated vig
TA/NF
Bulletproof Neighbor
Neighbor
Informed Townie/Mailman
That's a lot of power against a bulletproof traitor and 2 group scum, ESPECIALLY if both group scum are also PR's which leaves all of the scum vulnerable to the gated vig (at some point, at any rate).
If at least one group scum is goon for vig immunity, the power balance gets even weirder.
There's definitely shenanigans going on in claimed roles.In post 1654, Jacket wrote:This whole thing where cool cookie is insisting we protect a dead-ass useless PR for multiple days makes no sense.
All of this shade on cookie seems ridiculous. You're effectively going into outlandish conspiraciesIn post 1702, Jacket wrote:The only proof we have of the existence of a bulletproof traitor is cool cookie's word. In a world where the bulletproof traitor is one of the neighbors with town, that puts them in an automatic CC on day 1. Does that make any sense as good setup design? Because it sounds terrible to me. Mafia would be put in a losing position from the start.
And if the neighbors were both mafia...wouldn't the traitor just claim to the other one?
Neither idea makes much sense to me.-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
Hmm, fair.In post 2006, Jacket wrote:Okay? So was cookie, considering they were trying to paint the vig claim as scum. I thought that was super implausible. In my view, cookie was pushing on obvious townies.
I was wrong, sure. It happens. I was tunneled on you, too.-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston
-
-
T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11413
- Joined: February 19, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Boston