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[Random Nurse]

Meta Data

Just a heads-up: I typically struggle on Day 1 due to not having anything tangible to work with.

I work as a strictly nocturnal night nurse, so am asleep during the day. I also work 60-72 hours each week

As Town I am free to be aggressive because I legitimately don't know who is what, and I don't care about self-preservation.

As Scum I struggle to emulate the above play and frequently try to force myself to forget my role.

As Town I work best by consistent extreme engagement to generate content: it's extremely easy to do as Town and a chore for me to do as Scum because I already have insider knowledge and I'm a terrible liar. As Town it's extremely easy for me to make free-flowing-thought posts on a dime.

I don't quickhammers and appreciate intent to hammer being made first. At this point on I don't quickhammer and instead will announce intent to claim.

I prefer NOT to play using readslists due to my severe time constraints. It's easier for me to tell you how I feel about a player, and as Town if you ask me I should be able to tell you fairly soon how I honestly feel about them. If it takes awhile then I'm possibly Scum.

On Day 1 expect me to be playing based solely on gut reads and gut vibes: I have no tangible evidence to work with.

I'm making it a habit to post this post first at the start of each game, and then start reading.

[Random Nurse]

JasonWazza:

JasonWazza is directing the game's course and making statements such that, already, useful context has been elucidated.

I do not believe it likely, but in the event they do not share interests with town, their agenda is clearly that of town-siding scum, and I therefore give no consideration to voting them.

This player is very towny.

Based on which of JW's four prior posts?

I didn't get the impression he was trying to direct the game's course.

[Random Nurse]

I would call Mikhail’s reads good

, but their lack of an avatar is going to always tarnish every single one of their efforts unless they get one.

But why?

They weren't bad, but why are you calling them good?

[Random Nurse]

JasonWazza is directing the game's course and making statements such that, already, useful context has been elucidated.

[Citation Needed]

I like that I'm not the only one that noticed this.

[Random Nurse]

JasonWazza:

JasonWazza is directing the game's course and making statements such that, already, useful context has been elucidated.

I do not believe it likely, but in the event they do not share interests with town, their agenda is clearly that of town-siding scum, and I therefore give no consideration to voting them.

This player is very towny.

Based on which of JW's four prior posts?

I didn't get the impression he was trying to direct the game's course.

It is not in my interests to clarify further.

I am merely providing observations, and positions - you may choose to use them as assistance in building conclusions of your own. Mafia is equal parts about what is said, and what is left beneath the surface.

It might be if I light a fire under your ass.

[Random Nurse]

JasonWazza:

JasonWazza is directing the game's course and making statements such that, already, useful context has been elucidated.

I do not believe it likely, but in the event they do not share interests with town, their agenda is clearly that of town-siding scum, and I therefore give no consideration to voting them.

This player is very towny.

Based on which of JW's four prior posts?

I didn't get the impression he was trying to direct the game's course.

It is not in my interests to clarify further.

I am merely providing observations, and positions - you may choose to use them as assistance in building conclusions of your own. Mafia is equal parts about what is said, and what is left beneath the surface.

OK, I need you to clarify, or I'm going to jump on you like a monkey on a cupcake.

WHERE in those 4 posts did JW direct the game?

[Random Nurse]

Mikhail is being a spectacle but I'm not sure that makes him Scum. He's probably an alt being used for experimental play.

What I'm more concerned about is his resistance in clarifying things, although again that doesn't make him Scum. His play doesn't help us one bit and if anything it makes him a very easy target for Scum to mislim him.

[Random Nurse]

What I'm more concerned about is his resistance in clarifying things, although again that doesn't make him Scum. His play doesn't help us one bit and if anything it makes him a very easy target for Scum to mislim him.

What's worse is it makes reading them hard too.
P-Edit:

OH FFS can you stop doing that.

Do what?

[Random Nurse]

JasonWazza voting me only reinforces that they are town, in my mind.

VOTE: Mikhail

Yes that post is weird, but goes along with their vibe. Which makes it not scummy imo, think it's just their personality based on all their posts

Tentatively I'm going to say I Townread Hu tao slightly based on this post.

[Random Nurse]

I like Mikhail for town

I don't think his shenanigans makes him Scum, but why do you TR him?

[Random Nurse]

Meta Data

I don't quickhammers and appreciate intent to hammer being made first. At this point on I don't quickhammer and instead will announce intent to claim.

Didn't we just have a game where you quick hammered the Cop before they could claim lmao

Hence why I added this. Notice the "at this point" part.

[Random Nurse]

Up to post #262, I'd like to see osuka do more than just continuously gawk at Mikhail's posts. Still reading through.

[Random Nurse]

Ah! i know now what bothered me.
Milkhail's posting feels kinda robotic and void of emotion.

He's basically Sternritter K from Bleach.

[Random Nurse]

Up to post #262, I'd like to see osuka do more than just continuously gawk at Mikhail's posts. Still reading through.

I want to know if you think osuka comes across as informed

As in what, Scum?

At this point it's too early to tell. Still reading through.

[Random Nurse]

Mikhail, do you have any gut reads or gut vibes on any of the other players here?

I don't think I've read you even once stating you had a read or vibe from your gut.

[Random Nurse]

Like bro you're dead.
You think someone is going to care about what a dead person thinks?
Not even real life works this way.

He didn't hammer himself though, correct? We need a VC.

[Random Nurse]

Dismissing another's perspective based on character judgements is a fucking terrible play.
Villagers must necessarily not be dogmatic in solving the gamestate to eliminate the mafia.
If you discriminate based on optics, you are in fact, not playing to town's win condition.

If you are Town you have to play to win as Town and not go against your wincon (you can get in trouble with forum rules playing against your win condition).

Also the robot swore.

[Random Nurse]

JasonWazza is a power role.

Like if this is experimental alt doing this thing, I go. Yeah scum trying to hide behind experiment to try to pretend doesn't know you don't do these things

But i currently go, nope this is actually mindset and less likely to come from green scum player than more experienced veteran scum.

However, if it's an experimental alt they wouldn't know if they're Town or Scum before making the alt.

They'd make their alt first and then during game opening get their role PM, so it can't be that.

[Random Nurse]

I have given prior warning that it was not in my interests to clarify further every time.

If you're Town you need to be willing and able to clarify your thoughts when people ask questions.

[Random Nurse]

I will be taking any further speculations upon my character as implicit consent that I, who has hard claimed power role,

may dismiss anything you say for the entirety of the game continuation

.

I'm thinking this deserves a policy lim.

[Random Nurse]

At this point I'm caught up reading.

I'm Townreading Sakura and Alisae due to Scumhunting and engagement, but I am a bit apprehensive because they are voting Dunnstral who hasn't even posted anything yet.

Flavorleaf I can't tell either way.

Hu Tao I'm slightly Townreading.

Mikhail is bizarre. He's not playing to help Town, but he's not necessarily Scum either. Can't read him. He did mention getting policy limmed in a prior game: I'd want to know his alignment in that game.

Osuka slot gives me gut Scum vibes, because he's basically reacting to Mikhail's bizarreness but isn't doing much else, which makes me wonder why.

Dunnstral hasn't posted yet so I can't even form a read.

The rest are Null (Jason, Takuta, Roden, Fire).

I'd like Osuka to actually do something other than react to Mikhail. What are your reads?

VOTE: Osuka

[Random Nurse]

I have obtained

hard]/i], not soft, information that indicates that you are not Town Miller. I hard claim power role. If anyone would lend that any credence, please vote on Flavor Leaf.

So is this a serious statement or not?

[Random Nurse]

The rest are Null (Jason, Takuta, Roden, Fire).

Does that include me as well or do i simply not exist?

I actually forgot you were in this game.

[Random Nurse]

In my first game, I was voted by policy. The feedback I was given could be boiled down to that I was too wordy, and too imprecise, and was largely unrelated to alignment. This game I am making a conscious effort to be concise, and establish clear boundaries for my positions.

#260 #253 #176 #177 #54

At least five people so far have publicly expressed sentiments intended to minimise the value of my perspective, with pure optics - all things that could be best left to oneself, entirely unnecessary to bring forward to the gamestate. Consider reading JasonWazza's approach to engaging with me, if you would like insight as to how to be more respectful in the future.

Please avoid referring to ongoing games, as per site rules. Even though you are dead, wait until the game officially ends before saying anything outside of that game's official threads

WAIT, he's already dead?

[Random Nurse]

Scratch that.

[Random Nurse]

I see no further avenue to foster trust with town. As Alisae has correctly surmised, only mafia is willing to engage with me at this point. I will concede that point and minimise engagement for the remainder of the day, understanding it only furthers your agenda.

As Town in general you have to be willing to have a give and take relationship with other players here. In this game no one is an island. Remember, if you're Town you know you're Town, but no one else knows that. You have to be able to understand each other's paranoia in this game, and be willing to try and work with others while also understanding the paranoia inherent in this game. If you're Town and suspect another player is Town you SHOULD be attempting to conversate and try to foster trust with your Townreads. You should be active and engaged and try to be willing to work together: otherwise if you're an island and just pointing fingers ferociously at everyone else you'll just end up having everyone else come at you.

[Random Nurse]

Can someone explain why Hana would be so convinced that "defensiveness" is even an scumtell in the first place.
"Too defensive" sounds like a buzzword that scum would focus on because it sounds good as an reasoning for their push.

From general experience anything is a scumtell if you try hard enough.

[Random Nurse]

Might be that i have a personal pet peeve about this because i get pushed and see people get pushed for defensiveness in many games and it's probably one of the most unrealiable tells in existence. In fact i've even been pushed (correctly) in past games for not being defensive at all so in my case it might even be the opposite that is a scumtell for me.

I think they see it as being defense is seen as being focused on self-preservation, and self-preservation is seen a trait exclusive to Scum.

[Random Nurse]

Hey nurse, can I get your reasoning for the Hu Tao town read?

If I recall correctly he noticed the same thing I had noticed, that being #155 about Mikhail's post being more behavior and not Scummy. That said, there's really not much other content from him to go on, which is why I called it a slight TR.

[Random Nurse]

Update:

Scum:

Roden
Alisae

Nothing else, judging by the post tempo this day will be a goldmine for scum and will end in one or another silly elim as people follow the false promises of charismites. I think I'll scumread Roden and Alisae seperately, I'll only vote there once someone takes the trouble to case one of them for me in a convincing fashion.

In one sentence each could you explain why you're Scumreading Roden and Alisae?

[Random Nurse]

Update:

Scum:

Roden
Alisae

Nothing else, judging by the post tempo this day will be a goldmine for scum and will end in one or another silly elim as people follow the false promises of charismites. I think I'll scumread Roden and Alisae seperately,

I'll only vote there once someone takes the trouble to case one of them for me in a convincing fashion.

Um, could you please explain in one sentence each why you're Scumreading each of them?

In one sentence each could you explain why you're Scumreading Roden and Alisae?

[Random Nurse]

Update:

Scum:

Roden
Alisae

Nothing else, judging by the post tempo this day will be a goldmine for scum and will end in one or another silly elim as people follow the false promises of charismites. I think I'll scumread Roden and Alisae seperately,

I'll only vote there once someone takes the trouble to case one of them for me in a convincing fashion.

In one sentence each could you explain why you're Scumreading Roden and Alisae?

Um, could you please explain in one sentence each why you're Scumreading each of them?

[Random Nurse]

Can I get an answer Takutai?

[Random Nurse]

Am I crazy or does anyone else here notice that Takutai outright ignores my question?

[Random Nurse]

miki's towns are calling each other town, yaaay~

alisae n sakura hana kinda look like mafia partners in some worlds too yin thinks? probably past history but interactions feel just a lil off

we wanna be buds flavor leaf!

random nurse looks town too at this point? umm, is this game just really easy or something? weird, i have autowin

Is this the same Mikhail?

[Random Nurse]

Is this the same Mikhail?

They are a plural system. I believe Yin is posting right now

Like a Hydra?

I thought those weren't allowed in Normal games?

[Random Nurse]

Is this the same Mikhail?

They are a plural system. I believe Yin is posting right now

Like a Hydra?

I thought those weren't allowed in Normal games?

So for anyone who doesn't understand it, I would suggest reading this post

I see.

[Random Nurse]

Votecount 1.7

With

13

alive, it takes

7

to hammer

votes

Takutai (6)

E-1

:

NorwegianboyEE, Saukura Hana, JasonWazza, Firebringer, Alisae, MikhailTal

osuka (2):

Roden, Random Nurse

Not Voting (2):

Dunnstral, Takutai

MikhailTal (1):

osuka

Flavor Leaf(1):

Flavor Leaf

Firebringer (1):

Hu Tao

Day One ends in (expired on 2023-07-28 05:00:00)

Is it possible you could keep those who are not voting separate and at the bottom, please?

[Random Nurse]

Also, despite Takutai being unwilling to explain himself when I asked him a simple question on why he found those two other players Scummy, I don't really see any reason why he's already at L-1. It seems way too easy to me.

[Random Nurse]

UNVOTE: osuka

Rereading Takutai's ISO.

[Random Nurse]

Requesting V/LA until next Sunday morning.

[Random Nurse]

I'll be poking my head in tonight.

[Random Nurse]

Last I checked inactivity is not Al.

Yeah, I'm busy. I work 72 hours a week.

Scum will, of course, try to get an easy lim on a player struggling with time to play the game.

[Random Nurse]

Alright, what are your questions again? I'm available for a little bit now, and still at work.

[Random Nurse]

Alright, what are your questions again? I'm available for a little bit now, and still at work.

How much have you read?

Absolutely nothing since the post I made prior.

I am very busy.

[Random Nurse]

I should probably amend that meta post of mine to account for the 72 hours of work a week and Master's program classes I'm in FT for.

[Random Nurse]

Alright, what are your questions again? I'm available for a little bit now, and still at work.

How much have you read?

Absolutely nothing since the post I made prior.

I am very busy.

Ok so im gonna assume anything i ask you is only up until that point.
What are your thoughts on Alisae?

Currently I read her as Town due to activity, engagement, and asking good questions. I have zero interest in voting for her today.

[Random Nurse]

Currently I read her as Town due to activity, engagement, and asking good questions. I have zero interest in voting for her today.

What about Norweegian?

I barely remember him but his play usually sucks as Town.

I'd have to ISO him because I don't remember much of his play.

[Random Nurse]

Sheep I have experience with and it's always a struggle trying to read him because his Scum game tends to match his Town game (from personal experience).

[Random Nurse]

i really want a one on one chat with norwee. we can sit by the cozy fireplace and discuss all about how i am discrediting him and not doing anything.

What was your latest game as Scum?

[Random Nurse]

Roden you're claiming that Alisae aren't pushing me for real and only doing it for reactions like before? I disagree, i think it is very clearly a real push from them right now.
If it's not working then she's just doing it badly as scum imo. Not everything needs to be galaxy brain.

In fact i thought the first "reaction test" might have been an pocketing attempt on me, that's why i said just after their reaction test that i still didn't townread Alisae. And i meant it.

like initially i thought it was an ok push but then you responded and nothing came out of it, so ?????

alisae's entire game has been setting up pushes on slots and then doing fucking nothing about it. i'm genuinely at a loss as to what that means, because as town the only reason you'd do that is to bait scum (as pointed out) but then nobody's falling for it and she's still doing it after 70 pages?

I guess I see it differently because I think as Town you should be making a good effort to push other players around to see how they respond, granted they have the time to play.

[Random Nurse]

i really want a one on one chat with norwee. we can sit by the cozy fireplace and discuss all about how i am discrediting him and not doing anything.

What was your latest game as Scum?

The one we are in

No I mean before this one.

[Random Nurse]

Sheep I have experience with and it's always a struggle trying to read him because his Scum game tends to match his Town game (from personal experience).

Sheep replaced Mikhail and first thing he did was claim Miller. What do you make of this.

Do you or do you not think it's possible more than one Miller could exist?

If not, why?

[Random Nurse]

Sheep I have experience with and it's always a struggle trying to read him because his Scum game tends to match his Town game (from personal experience).

Sheep replaced Mikhail and first thing he did was claim Miller. What do you make of this.

Do you or do you not think it's possible more than one Miller could exist?

If not, why?

I've been shown proof enough that it is possible, Mikhail did not claim Miller in their first post, sheep however did do so, do you think this makes sheep town or are they fake claiming? since you know their meta more than me (i've never played with them).

I don't know actually. Mikhail was a bizarre anomaly so I'm like to throw the whole thing out and start anew with Sheep. I don't know if it's some weird gambit or if he's telling the truth here. I'm not sure it would make much sense for Scum to fakeclaim Miller? At least in my own personal opinion I think it's always easier as Scum to just claim VT, but I understand there's differences in philosophy here. I don't think the claim inherently makes him Town

currently

, but we'll have to see how this game unfolds.

[Random Nurse]

Voting nurse the afk slot: does nothing

i think thats where my vote is atm so you know fuck it
VOTE: alisae

Random was E-2 with your vote on it, so Alisae was just wrong with it.

Why do you feel the need to hop off and change the momentum of the game?

To be frank you seem quite eager for my mis-lim, FL.

[Random Nurse]

Sheep I have experience with and it's always a struggle trying to read him because his Scum game tends to match his Town game (from personal experience).

Sheep replaced Mikhail and first thing he did was claim Miller. What do you make of this.

Do you or do you not think it's possible more than one Miller could exist?

If not, why?

I've been shown proof enough that it is possible, Mikhail did not claim Miller in their first post, sheep however did do so, do you think this makes sheep town or are they fake claiming? since you know their meta more than me (i've never played with them).

I don't know actually. Mikhail was a bizarre anomaly so I'm like to throw the whole thing out and start anew with Sheep. I don't know if it's some weird gambit or if he's telling the truth here. I'm not sure it would make much sense for Scum to fakeclaim Miller? At least in my own personal opinion I think it's always easier as Scum to just claim VT, but I understand there's differences in philosophy here. I don't think the claim inherently makes him Town

currently

, but we'll have to see how this game unfolds.

I see, in my opinion, i would agree with you, unless there was some sort of hint in the scum PT to claim Miller as soon as they entered,

which only Alisae or FL would do that.

So they are probably simply town. Who are your scumreads?

I guess I don't understand the bolded part.

Flavorleaf I can't read at all, and if I can't read someone I tend to suspect them. Dunnstral has been a non-presence this entire game, but then again so have I but my reasons are LEGIT. Osuka seems more Town-dick than Scum, to be honest, but this is the first time I've played with them. Likewise, Takutai I've never played with before but they're bristly AF and reactionary. Firebringer is very whimsical, I don't know their meta, and I'd rather they be more assertive rather than asking others to basically make their choices for them. Alisae I Townread, period. You I also Townread currently. Jason I can't really tell at them moment. And I literally forgot Roden, Hu Tao, and NorweiganBoy were in the game (literally had to look at the playerlist).

[Random Nurse]

ok so i just got to a votecount that has rn at e-2 and i kinda wanna put my vote back on there

i'll catch up first and probably return my vote on it unless the last few pages have something crazy, since the alisae wagon probably isnt gonna happen d1

I unvoted to interrogate RN.

I'm gonna ISO you real quick.

[Random Nurse]

ok so i just got to a votecount that has rn at e-2 and i kinda wanna put my vote back on there

i'll catch up first and probably return my vote on it unless the last few pages have something crazy, since the alisae wagon probably isnt gonna happen d1

I unvoted to interrogate RN.

I'm gonna ISO you real quick.

*looks at 349 posts*

OK maybe not.

[Random Nurse]

I guess I don't understand the bolded part.

They are the only ones in the playerlist i know would use daychat to strategize to that extenct and make sure their stories match with their predecessor. Fire... idk really dont seem the type, Norwee, probably not either, and i dont know enough information about the others to make that call I guess.

How do you feel about JasonWazza and Dunnstral?

[Random Nurse]

I guess I don't understand the bolded part.

They are the only ones in the playerlist i know would use daychat to strategize to that extenct and make sure their stories match with their predecessor. Fire... idk really dont seem the type, Norwee, probably not either, and i dont know enough information about the others to make that call I guess.

Well, to be honest I don't know their meta at all.

[Random Nurse]

Ok, wasnt really planning to tryhard this game, just wanted a nice relaxing game to come back and get back into the swing of things, but with how things are going this game, it seems i'm going to have to do something about it as it feels like there's a chance scum are controlling the game right now.

On the subject of Random Nurse

You probably saw me mention it a few times already, but RN left us a really nice self-meta on their first post:

Meta Data

Just a heads-up: I typically struggle on Day 1 due to not having anything tangible to work with.

I work as a strictly nocturnal night nurse, so am asleep during the day. I also work 60-72 hours each week

As Town I am free to be aggressive because I legitimately don't know who is what, and I don't care about self-preservation.

As Scum I struggle to emulate the above play and frequently try to force myself to forget my role.

As Town I work best by consistent extreme engagement to generate content: it's extremely easy to do as Town and a chore for me to do as Scum because I already have insider knowledge and I'm a terrible liar. As Town it's extremely easy for me to make free-flowing-thought posts on a dime.

I don't quickhammers and appreciate intent to hammer being made first. At this point on I don't quickhammer and instead will announce intent to claim.

I prefer NOT to play using readslists due to my severe time constraints. It's easier for me to tell you how I feel about a player, and as Town if you ask me I should be able to tell you fairly soon how I honestly feel about them. If it takes awhile then I'm possibly Scum.

On Day 1 expect me to be playing based solely on gut reads and gut vibes: I have no tangible evidence to work with.

I'm making it a habit to post this post first at the start of each game, and then start reading.

My main issue with random nurse is that they dont feel aggresive as they mention, while they mention that as scum they struggle to emulate it. I've been giving them a lot of room considering we're reaching the end of deadline, just in case they are legit busy. After their first string of posts then they go into do almost nothing mode as i mentioned before:

VOTE: Random Nurse

Yeah, forgot about them, and then dont like ISO either, and remember them pinging me with the town read on Sakura and Alisae, yet 'FL is a mystery'

seems like a positioning tactic

I support this vote but not for these reasons, but they seemed to be active at first until they got stonewalled by Takutai and then they dissapeared off the thread in terms of sorting.

Spoiler: quotes

Am I crazy or does anyone else here notice that Takutai outright ignores my question?

miki's towns are calling each other town, yaaay~

alisae n sakura hana kinda look like mafia partners in some worlds too yin thinks? probably past history but interactions feel just a lil off

we wanna be buds flavor leaf!

random nurse looks town too at this point? umm, is this game just really easy or something? weird, i have autowin

Is this the same Mikhail?

Is this the same Mikhail?

They are a plural system. I believe Yin is posting right now

Like a Hydra?

I thought those weren't allowed in Normal games?

Votecount 1.7

With

13

alive, it takes

7

to hammer

votes

Takutai (6)

E-1

:

NorwegianboyEE, Saukura Hana, JasonWazza, Firebringer, Alisae, MikhailTal

osuka (2):

Roden, Random Nurse

Not Voting (2):

Dunnstral, Takutai

MikhailTal (1):

osuka

Flavor Leaf(1):

Flavor Leaf

Firebringer (1):

Hu Tao

Day One ends in (expired on 2023-07-28 05:00:00)

Is it possible you could keep those who are not voting separate and at the bottom, please?

Also, despite Takutai being unwilling to explain himself when I asked him a simple question on why he found those two other players Scummy, I don't really see any reason why he's already at L-1. It seems way too easy to me.

UNVOTE: osuka

Rereading Takutai's ISO.

Is everything RN's done in the last 2 IRL days.
VOTE: Real Nurse

After which, they went V/LA and i went "Okay, maybe they are legit busy, i'll see what happens when they come back", so i kept waiting for their V/LA to end, which was supposed to be Sunday morning, on when the posted this:

I'll be poking my head in tonight.

This happened at sunday morning in my timezone so i was under the assumption this was them ending their V/LA and saying they'd post during the night. After which i waited for a post during the night, and... nothing since then.

Could potentially give them more time, but the clock is ticking, and i'm not sure if they stalling until night 1 at this point or just legit busy.

On the subject of Alisae

I keep flip flopping here a lot, but what set me off mostly was when I was trying to reaction test RN, at... sunday night where i assumed is when they would be reading/catching up, and this happens:

Well since FL didnt reply i'll just do it then. Sorry it took a bit.

Dayvig: Random Nurse

when you're so desperate you're faking dayvigs

Like why, why interrupt me from trying to get anything?, They seem to townread Nurse, but despite me commenting on my read being partly based on their first post's self-meta at least moer than once, doesnt seem to be engaging me on it either, feels like they are trying to bury it out or something.

Mostly going by these weird connection i'm seeing between Alisae and RN, but i do admit, i'm not that sure on Alisae being scum, their pivot onto Norwee that came out of the blue and flipped their read is nothing short of suspicious and i dunno if it's something Alisae would do as scum.

On the subject on Flavor Leaf.

Being honest here, literally the only reason i have for this is how he suddenly agrees with Alisae on Norwee, maybe this is some Level 100 play i'm not seeing coz i'm a noob at this game, but it gives me weird feelings about it all the same.

End words

I'm not expecting people to follow my intuition or logic here, since i'm bad at explaining things anyway and i'm not into faking confidence to get my scumreads pushed, but i figured it's better if i let my thoughts out than keep them to myself.

VOTE: Random Nurse

Yeah, so, uh, I should probably tell you more about my personal life because it makes everything make sense. I work a sh*t-ton of hours as a stepdown/ICU nurse, and after work I'm typically a dead husk the night after (I work nights). And that night I said I was going to poke my head in I legit fell asleep at night too and was out cold for another 8 hours. I had worked 10 out of 11 12-hour shifts. So yeah, I'm working like a fiend: ask a nurse how relaxed they feel the day/night after.

I really need to amend that yellow meta post because it is NOT accounting for the wear and tear these shifts and classes are doing to me. WHEN I HAVE TIME AND ENERGY I like to get really into the game and start going nuts with engagement: my main is from 2013 and I COULD share it but I'm not sure that would break any rules. I should amend it to note that my strength is---when I can do it---get really aggressive and into the game. If you want a hint I modded one of the largest games in this site.

[Random Nurse]

VOTE: osuka

See, now that's interesting.

Why Osuka currently?

[Random Nurse]

VOTE: osuka

See, now that's interesting.

Why Osuka currently?

Partly gut, Partly because i dont know where else to go, and partly coz it's Tak's scumread and i townread them, so i wanna see where this goes. This game is a mess rn.

Correct me if you mentioned this before but exactly how well do you know Flavor's Scum meta?

[Random Nurse]

Correct me if you mentioned this before but exactly how well do you know Flavor's Scum meta?

I'm not good for reading meta, but i've played as town vs scum him, as scum vs town him, as town with town him (i think?), and as scum with him twice (although one was a reaaaaaaaally long time ago when he played as boonskies).

And, so?

What should we know about Scum!Flavor?

Is it possible he could be Scum this game?

[Random Nurse]

Is it just me, or does Roden's vote seem rather opportunistic?

[Random Nurse]

I'm pretty sure at least ONE person on my wagon is Scum.

Looking at Roden, Firebringer, and Flavorleaf. Osuka I don't think his vote makes much sense but I'm thinking he could be Town.

[Random Nurse]

Is it just me, or does Roden's vote seem rather opportunistic?

and mine isn't?

It does seem rather opportunistic too, tbh.

[Random Nurse]

Is it just me, or does Roden's vote seem rather opportunistic?

and mine isn't?

It does seem rather opportunistic too, tbh.

Ohh good. Wouldn't want roden to outshine me.
Did u check out my previous scum game yet

Yeah, and I noticed that was your Town game, bucko.

[Random Nurse]

I'm feeling like it's really hard this game to try to suss out Scum because so many of the players are bringing good Townish play. So, as I read it, this means that it's likely there's Scum that knows how to look very Town this game. So as Town how do you navigate this game when there's so many Townish players?

[Random Nurse]

I'm feeling like it's really hard this game to try to suss out Scum because so many of the players are bringing good Townish play. So, as I read it, this means that it's likely there's Scum that knows how to look very Town this game. So as Town how do you navigate this game when there's so many Townish players?

If i knew the answer to this question i wouldnt be struggling enough to have resorted to voting you before.

So, I guess, where do we even try to begin?

How do you feel about JasonWazza again?

[Random Nurse]

Roden,

what exactly

is your reason for voting me?

[Random Nurse]

I'm feeling like it's really hard this game to try to suss out Scum because so many of the players are bringing good Townish play. So, as I read it, this means that it's likely there's Scum that knows how to look very Town this game. So as Town how do you navigate this game when there's so many Townish players?

If i knew the answer to this question i wouldnt be struggling enough to have resorted to voting you before.

So, I guess, where do we even try to begin?

How do you feel about JasonWazza again?

Still town.

Eh, I don't get that same read on him as you do. He seems more in the periphery than anything else.

[Random Nurse]

Btw if anyone had any doubts about Nurse's alignment 1878 should tell you everything you need to know.

VOTE: Nurse

What do you think of his vote, Sakura?

[Random Nurse]

Eh, I don't get that same read on him as you do. He seems more in the periphery than anything else.

He seems to be struggling for the same reasons i do.
Whenever we're trying to engage with people we get stone walled. I'm glad i get to engage with you at least.

Is it because of my charming personality and good looks?

[Random Nurse]

Btw if anyone had any doubts about Nurse's alignment 1878 should tell you everything you need to know.

VOTE: Nurse

What do you think of his vote, Sakura?

I explained in a later post, what i thought your previous post could be. I assumed that he noticed too and that's why he sheeped, so i figured he = town, at the time.

You know Scum can do that too right?

[Random Nurse]

Is it unnatural to have a lot of Townreads in a game if you're Town?

[Random Nurse]

Eh, I don't get that same read on him as you do. He seems more in the periphery than anything else.

He seems to be struggling for the same reasons i do.
Whenever we're trying to engage with people we get stone walled. I'm glad i get to engage with you at least.

Is it because of my charming personality and good looks?

I get better reads out of engagement with ppl than back-reading / re-reading.

That's part of the reason I don't really do readslists and prefer to engage aggressively instead.

As Scum I REALLY don't engage that well, but as Town my aggression goes through the roof because I am under NO constraints.

[Random Nurse]

Is it unnatural to have a lot of Townreads in a game if you're Town?

Not if that's your specialty, there's always PoE.

That's fair I guess.

[Random Nurse]

Did I ask you how you felt about Dunnstral?

[Random Nurse]

Did I ask you how you felt about Dunnstral?

Lean-town

Hm. I don't feel as confident about him as you do. Knowing I haven't been active for awhile it probably wouldn't be fair to mention he only has 20 posts.

[Random Nurse]

I mean... Lean-town isnt very confident to begin with.

That should probably tell you I don't feel that confident about him at all.

[Random Nurse]

How good are you as Scum when it comes to mimicking your Town meta?

I haven't played with either of you before.

[Random Nurse]

Hi Nurse wb!

I don't quite get your worldview atm.

Clarify please?

[Random Nurse]

Roden,

what exactly

is your reason for voting me?

Lol

I'll let you guess why I would vote one of my scum reads

So why exactly do you Scumread me currently?

[Random Nurse]

Clarify please?

where you stand on all of the players

Which part?

Many of them feel like strong Townreads, so it's tough trying to feel out the Scummy ones.

[Random Nurse]

Now, if y'all don't mind, I have some charting to catch up on. K thanks.

[Random Nurse]

Hey all just a reminder I'm V/LA every Thur/Fri/Sat. I can still post but barely.

[Random Nurse]

Oh look, I'm getting voted while being V/LA again while I can barely post.

[Random Nurse]

Oh look, I'm getting voted while being V/LA again while I can barely post.

When will you be able to post?

I’d like to pencil it into my schedule so I know when it’s okay to push you

I'm not going to give you an exact time because then you'll be hounding me while I'm dealing with something else.

I work my main FT hospital job every Thur/Fri/Sat night. I barely have time to read any game thread, let alone analyze and engage. V/LA ends Sunday morning but I'm then going to bed one hour after that. Then I'm *off* Sun/Mon/Tues/Wed night, but I picked up three of those shifts at my PRN job (still less chaotic and busy as my FT job). Also dealing right now with two major writing assignments for my Master's degree. I bit off more than I can chew when it comes to Mafia.

[Random Nurse]

I was more kidding, and sorry I’m pushing you while you’re inactive.

I’m getting discredited left and right, which is usually indicative of me being close to being on the right track.

I’m more solving you through other actions, and using your wagon to force reactions, if it means anything.

I do think there’s a higher likelihood of you being scum.

Maybe try playing in the present when you are able to be here rather than expecting to catch up?

To be honest you did not sound like you were kidding, but I suppose that gets lost in translation.

Discrediting happens a lot in this game. If you're Town and they're Town then you know they're also paranoid AF and people react differently to the darkness of the unknown. Kinda like that movie "The Thing," yeah?

I think that's fair. I regret posting that yellow meta post of mine because it doesn't take into account my work and school schedule. I'm an alt of Wake.

I could try to play in the present, but even now it'd be a struggle with my current schedule.

[Random Nurse]

I don’t have a schedule, I’m the living embodiment of chaotic neutral.

Oh damn, you’re Wake!

I’m Boonskiies.

...heh.

I remember when you first started, I think? 2013-ish or nah? It's been awhile.

[Random Nurse]

Oh look, I'm getting voted while being V/LA again while I can barely post.

When will you be able to post?

I’d like to pencil it into my schedule so I know when it’s okay to push you

I'm not going to give you an exact time because then you'll be hounding me while I'm dealing with something else.

I work my main FT hospital job every Thur/Fri/Sat night. I barely have time to read any game thread, let alone analyze and engage. V/LA ends Sunday morning but I'm then going to bed one hour after that. Then I'm *off* Sun/Mon/Tues/Wed night, but I picked up three of those shifts at my PRN job (still less chaotic and busy as my FT job). Also dealing right now with two major writing assignments for my Master's degree. I bit off more than I can chew when it comes to Mafia.

How do u keep up with so many mafia games

That's the fun part—I don't.

[Random Nurse]

@Random - do you think Takutai should be able to town read you as hard as they do with such conviction?

They were 100% positive that Osuka and Sakura were scum, and they both flipped town, and they’ve almost doubled down harder that all of their reads are better than everyone else’s.

I know it’s a weird spot to take considering they are defending you, I’m just wondering if you feel that it’s warranted from them to be that strongly defending considering how off they’ve been this game

I will say I do enjoy being Townread. Problem is, I can't say with 100% certainty he IS, for sure, Town. If he is Town I would say he should be far more careful, but if he's Scum then I need to keep that possibility in the back of my mind.

To be frank with you Town is allowed to be wrong. We don't know exactly who is who, and the paranoia is a real problem. I've never had a game as Town where I correctly sniffed out amd limmed Scum each Day. We're all wrong, frequently, but that's how the game is supposed to be.

I do think Takutai is, I think, Townreading me a bit too strongly, but does that necessarily make him Scum? I doubt it. I do have blindspots though.

[Random Nurse]

Town are for sure allowed to be wrong.

It’s the being wrong and unwilling to reconsider kinda thing.


I’ve gone back and forth on you, Norwegian, Takutai, Hu Tao, and Alisae all day phase, and while I’m a bit more of a flip flopper than your average Boon, it just kinda feels like they chose slots to town and scum read for positioning reasons.

But Flavor man, does bullheadedness make one Scum?

We're all grasping in the dark using whatever shreds of solid information we have. If we don't have our inherent biases on how to tell Scum apart from Town, what else do we really have?

Seeing how people position themselves CAN be a good way to suss out Scum, but it's definitely not fool-proof. It's only one way to try to deduce who's who. I will say that working with other players, including your Scumreads, can be beneficial... but you also run the risk of being sucked into the darkness this way. Still, maintaining the lines of communication are important.

[Random Nurse]

Taku doesn't really read like Enchant to me, but if they are Enchant then I might be wrong about my town read there. Scum!Enchant has a history of scum reading me as scum and almost never commits to read on me as town.

To me it feels as if you're informed and I don't see the solving and uncertainty I associate with town.

Takutai, how do you feel about Norwegian right now?

Better than day one because he's nice to me and because, instinctual animal that I am, I liked him going against you, but as I've mentioned this morning already well not sure at all yet, can write pages but for now this is the one read I want to stay dark on.

I'm tired wow so bye.

Informed about what?

Me being town for one. You're reading me like that the whole game and my feeling is you're scum knowing it instead of town discovering it. I have to re-read MikhailTal.

If memory serves Sheep replaced Mikhail?

[Random Nurse]

*cracks knuckles*

Finally I have time to play a little bit. You wouldn't believe how much it takes to get the time and mental clarity to play this game over here.

Anyways, here's the deal. This game is frustrating to me because I've been Townreading most of the players here. This means that either Scum is really good at what they're doing, or there's too many good Town players in this game.

Alisae

at this point, looking through both Sakura and her posts/exchanges, I don't get the feeling that Alisae is Scum. Like I said before I don't Scumread her and am not interested in limming her at least for Day 2. Holy f*ck 631 posts? I know that post activity isn't alignment indicative, but damn. I do like her willingness to respond and engage with other players here. I DID slightly raise my eyebrow on the "I think you don't rly know whats going on, I think you're not really going to get me to execution range," part, like it felt like it didn't really belong there. For the most part, though, I don't think she's Scum at all, currently.

Dunnstral

I can barely read. Activity is not indicative of alignment, so do we just not push his slot? I feel that with a game of over 3,200 posts a player, any player, should have more than 35 posts. I'd like to see this slot engage more.

Takutai

, at the moment, I don't get any Scumvibes from currently. He is abrasive and reactionary, but Scum that does not make. He wasn't on the osuka lim, so at a glance I'm keen to give him a pass for now. He's got some fight in him. I like that. One thing I do take slight issue with is that he refuses to vote Norwee today; Norwee I don't Townread as strongly as the others. I'd like to better understand his position on Norwee for now.

Firebringer

is aloof and whimsical, and personally hard to read. I feel like he... posts a lot, yes... but where exactly does he stand? He says he engaged, but... He's more like a wildcard, inscrutable. I think he *should* get pressed a bit just to better understand if he's actually trying to solve this game, or just trying to blend in.

Hu Tao

, no offense, seems like clueless Town trying to solve the game, but engaged and trying to solve the game. I don't feel like he would be a good lim for today, because he doesn't ping my gut at the moment. I do raise my eyebrow at him saying he'd be fine with limming Alisae or Dunnstral: why are they both on the same bench? I do agree with him on Bob; I need more info from him on this slot.

Norwegianboy

, I don't feel too strongly about, but not Scumreading currently. More in null territory. I do feel like he's trying to solve? I do like the idea of a Roden or Dunn lim today.

sheepsaysmeep

: What I WILL say is that I'm paranoid of sheep in general when he is Scum. That's all I will say on that. A majority of his posts are brief sentences and that makes it a struggle to sift out his alignment. He's more in null territory with Norwee, but in a better position than Firebringer and Dunnstral.

*pauses* *gives agitated, combative patient 5mg IM Haldol* *walks back to laptop*

Bob

: He's in null territory too for now. I'll need more time to better suss out his alignment.

Flavorleaf

: I'm thinking this could be Town!FlavorLeaf, but it's been quite awhile since I last played with BooneyBoi, so I don't exactly recall how his Scumgame is. I'm inclined to thin kthis is his Town self but he can be really difficult to suss out at times, but currently I have no interest in limming him and I rank him up there with Alisae and Takutai.

Roden

? Roden's more in neutral/slightly suss territory. He DID vote for Osuka but that doesn't NECESSARILY make him Town. It's just one data point. Flavor Leaf, Firebringer, Sakura Hana, JasonWazza, NorwegianboyEE, Roden, and Alisae all voted for him, and they can't all be Scum. I don't think I like the "I voted him thinking he'd flip town" part, though. I also don't think I like the "Pretty sure this flips town but not voting here is anti-survival at this point" part. So twice now he's said he voted for someone while saying they're pretty sure they'll flip Town. I think you should be voting for someone you think will flip Scum, not Town. But does this make him Scum though?

So currently here's how I'm see it:

TOWN?

Alisae
FlavorLeaf
Takutai
Hu Tao

NULL

Bob
Sheep
Norweigan

SCUM?

Roden
Firebringer
Dunnstral

[Random Nurse]

Nurse if you were kingmaker who dies?

What's a kingmaker again?

[Random Nurse]

Nurse if you were kingmaker who dies?

What's a kingmaker again?

if you decided the elim who is it

Hm.

What are my options? Everyone?

[Random Nurse]

Nurse if you were kingmaker who dies?

What's a kingmaker again?

if you decided the elim who is it

Hm.

What are my options? Everyone?

you say a name
they die

Roden.

Norweiganboy as a close second.

[Random Nurse]

So for now Roden/Flavor Leaf/Alisae my main area of interest. Norwee is adjacent here.

The sheep slot I need to reread as previously stated.

I don't agree with either Alisae or Flavor being on the table, but I am willing to compromise on Roden.

Sheep DOES make me paranoid because I've seent his Scum game.

[Random Nurse]

Takutai

, at the moment, I don't get any Scumvibes from currently. He is abrasive and reactionary, but Scum that does not make. He wasn't on the osuka lim, so at a glance I'm keen to give him a pass for now. He's got some fight in him. I like that. One thing I do take slight issue with is that he refuses to vote Norwee today; Norwee I don't Townread as strongly as the others. I'd like to better understand his position on Norwee for now.

Taku hard pushed the Osuka wagon then jumped off at the last second.

Hm..

[Random Nurse]

Idk, i think Takutai is best fade.

I just don’t trust them, and if they’re town, i don’t trust them even, which isn’t good.

Their position on people seem in really bad faith, and I don’t believe they believe their own posts. they’re just blind spouting

I'm not open to this, Boonskiies.

At least not Day 2.

[Random Nurse]

Idk, i think Takutai is best fade.

I just don’t trust them, and if they’re town, i don’t trust them even, which isn’t good.

Their position on people seem in really bad faith, and I don’t believe they believe their own posts. they’re just blind spouting

I'm not open to this, Boonskiies.

At least not Day 2.

Then we are set to fight on different sides this day phase.

Does it have to be a fight?

And, if so, are you sure you're ready?

[Random Nurse]

Idk, i think Takutai is best fade.

I just don’t trust them, and if they’re town, i don’t trust them even, which isn’t good.

Their position on people seem in really bad faith, and I don’t believe they believe their own posts. they’re just blind spouting

I'm not open to this, Boonskiies.

At least not Day 2.

Then we are set to fight on different sides this day phase.

Does it have to be a fight?

And, if so, are you sure you're ready?

Worst case scenario, I am faded, i foip town and my entire worldview gets put into the game from me in a conf town spot.

That is a world I’m willing to live in here.

Who said anything about fading you? I'm not interested in that Day 2.

I'm also not interested in Takutai getting eliminated Day 2 either.

Is there anyone else you'd be willing to compromise with me on? Roden?

[Random Nurse]

Idk, i think Takutai is best fade.

I just don’t trust them, and if they’re town, i don’t trust them even, which isn’t good.

Their position on people seem in really bad faith, and I don’t believe they believe their own posts. they’re just blind spouting

I'm not open to this, Boonskiies.

At least not Day 2.

Then we are set to fight on different sides this day phase.

Does it have to be a fight?

And, if so, are you sure you're ready?

Worst case scenario, I am faded, i foip town and my entire worldview gets put into the game from me in a conf town spot.

That is a world I’m willing to live in here.

Who said anything about fading you? I'm not interested in that Day 2.

I'm also not interested in Takutai getting eliminated Day 2 either.

Is there anyone else you'd be willing to compromise with me on? Roden?

Nah, I’m gonna defend Roden.

Hm..

Why do you defend him?

[Random Nurse]

Idk, i think Takutai is best fade.

I just don’t trust them, and if they’re town, i don’t trust them even, which isn’t good.

Their position on people seem in really bad faith, and I don’t believe they believe their own posts. they’re just blind spouting

I'm not open to this, Boonskiies.

At least not Day 2.

Then we are set to fight on different sides this day phase.

Does it have to be a fight?

And, if so, are you sure you're ready?

Worst case scenario, I am faded, i foip town and my entire worldview gets put into the game from me in a conf town spot.

That is a world I’m willing to live in here.

Who said anything about fading you? I'm not interested in that Day 2.

I'm also not interested in Takutai getting eliminated Day 2 either.

Is there anyone else you'd be willing to compromise with me on? Roden?

Nah, I’m gonna defend Roden.

Hm..

Why do you defend him?

I think they’re town.

They made a strong case why it was more obvious that Sakura was Vanilla, something I agree with, in regards to the deal Sakura was trying to make with Norwegian, giving their own life the day after if Alisae was correct on Norwegian.

Roden thought a PR wouldn’t say that, and I think that gives credence to scum not thinking they are Vanilla, and more unknown.

On top of that, there’s been multiple comments that Roden said that are akin to “I think they’re probably town, but I’ll go there.”

Which would get them more heat than if they just acted like they scum read them if they flipped town.

—-

@Random - you brought up Takutai being off the Osuka wagon, however, Takutai was on it for a long time, and actively was tunneling Osuka as scum, and disregarding everyone who would defend them even the slightest, similar to how they are doing with Roden now.

I think the fact they waffled at the end is worse than if they stayed on it, purposefully, because to me it looks like they hopped off to avoid being on the wagon.

Who are your compromises then?

I'm not as confident on Roden as you are, and to be frank this strong confidence in general is just as dangerous as strong paranoia.

To be frank I missed that he was on the wagon for awhile and then left it afterwards. However, I'm not sold on this meaning he's Scum. In general I think at least 3-4 Days of voting patterns is way more useful than determining alignment based on Day 1 vote actions.

[Random Nurse]

Could Flavorleaf and Norweiganboy PLEASE take a break from the thread to cool off?

[Random Nurse]

{Norwee FL Sheep Bob} This is the bloc.

+Alisae ofc.

I don't really think it is.

This is how I see today playing out:

Hu Tao, Dunnstral, Random Nurse, Bob.

I'm not certain that all of them are town but judging by dynamics today these are the kingmakers and the players sharp scum would have pocketed long ago.

I don't think I agree with your confidence on Dunnstral.

[Random Nurse]

@Random - you keep going ‘not sold on this making him scum’ to multiple different things.

Alone, I would agree with you.

But adding them all together, I just don’t see any actual scum hunting.

They’re positioning and hunting for things they push as scum hunting.

I think your 2 slots have a very unnatural pairing.

In regards to Roden, I wouldn’t say I’m overly confident, but logically when I think over those lines, i just don’t see scum intent in what they’re doing.

In addition, Roden is town reading me, and oftentimes, scum like to target people who are supporting me more, and this falls right in line with something I believe Takutai would be doing.

I am becoming decently confident with my Takutai read while accepting I can be wrong.

Yesterday, I was hard defending Osuka for a long time, and got tired, so I joined the wagon, and then they all left it.

I compromised yesterday. Today, I fight for my push.

Are you saying you want me to agree on one logical thing and not on another logical thing?

Otherwise you're saying that him jumping off the wagon or being on the wagon means he's Scum in differing degrees, setting him up to be limmed either way. Last I checked there were multiple people on osuka's wagon but I don't recall them receiving similar condemnation.

Me checking your statements doesn't mean I'm not Scumhunting. Part of playing the game is sifting through posts and noting slight inconsistencies in one's words and actions.

Is it possible you're Townreading Roden because Roden is Townreading you?

You say you can accept being wrong, but can you accept being possible wrong on Roden?

Remember what you said earlier about working with other players, including those you Scumread.

[Random Nurse]

Sheepsaymeep
Bob
Alisae

Roden
Hu Tao
Dunnstral
Firebringer

Random Nurse
NorwegianBoyEE

Takutai

Town

-

Lean Town

-

Light Town

-

Neutral

-

Light Scum

-

Lean Scum

-

Scum

Deleted a tier, and forgot to add them where I was gonna, so added Dunn and Fire here.

Why are Bob and sheep so high on there?

[Random Nurse]

Could everyone here currently post their top 3 they're willing to lim currently?

[Random Nurse]

The thing that's really starting to annoy me is that people are acting as if all these Miller claims mean they MUST be Town.

Did it ever occur to anyone that Scum could be informed about there being one or more Millers in the game?

[Random Nurse]

The thing that's really starting to annoy me is that people are acting as if all these Miller claims mean they MUST be Town.

Did it ever occur to anyone that Scum could be informed about there being one or more Millers in the game?

thats been like the basis of the talk around the millers.

Exactly, and yet the problem persists that players are presuming they must be Town. An informed Scum could easily use it like a shield.

[Random Nurse]

I also dont like how dunn hasnt cast any votes at all this game. Which matches my current interpretation of some of the wagon/vote movements.

If he was town this type of activity would actualy be detrimental to town as it drops the effective e-x level by one.

VOTE: Dunn

VOTE: Dunnstral

I for one would like to see him stop lurking.

[Random Nurse]

He probably is but I can't think of anyone else that would be better to kill right now.
Like lets run it down

Random Nurse - I kind of townread this guy
Flavor Leaf - not voting
Hu Tao - I don't think their fos on me is malicious
NorwegianboyEE - I have a hard time fosing the slot
Firebringer - bodyguard, hopefully it'll just get itself kiled
Bob - not voting this slot
Takutai - I really really want to TR this player.
Roden - I honestly am at the point right now where I want to vote Roden over Takutai
sheepsaysmeep - I'm never voting this
Dunnstral - I kind of think he's townie but I can see it being mafia easily ig

Are any of those Scumreads?

[Random Nurse]

I'm leaving this game.

Too jaded, and honestly could care less about it.

There is scum in Takutai, Norwegian, and Random, sorry y'all arent good enough to see it.

Not wasting my days off on this game.

If your cop claim is real I'm willing to consider Norwee and Random in a neutral light. If it is Real, I'm also willing to make myself the default elim today or tommorow, even though I flip town.

lets make it hypothetical

why would my hypothetical cop claim change anything?

i could just be informed there's no cop

Hate to burst your bubble Boonie but Sane Cop is explicitly Normal for either alignment.

[Random Nurse]

*boop*

[Random Nurse]

Hey, so I slept through most of my night off. I'll have some time tonight to get back into this game.

[Random Nurse]

that doesn't make sense

Finally someone calls Alisae out for not making any sense

when FL dies we know he had a guilty on Hu Tao so we can kill Hu Tao after he flips.
I don't mind at all going Nurse > Hu Tao today.
We can always get Hu Tao tomorrow pretty safely as well. Any Vigs that are restraining themselves can also shoot Hu Tao tonight if they exist.

I really don't see why we have to kill Hu Tao today

This makes 0 sense. You're making the case of of RN being scum on the case of me being scum. But not sure on me being scum.

I find it interesting that you say Alisae's two posts make no sense yet you then proceed to vote with her?

Am I missing something here?

VOTE: Hu Tao

If she makes no sense to you, shouldn't you be asking questions instead of following her vote?

[Random Nurse]

I do not trust FL one bit right now.

VOTE: Flavor Leaf [/B]

[Random Nurse]

Hey all. I'll be back tonight and will TRY to post. Tuesday night for sure I have off.

[Random Nurse]

Flavor if u let Alisae go tomorrow when im gone. I am going to be shouting at you in the dead thread

Alisae is obv scum lol

It’s just rough bc i understand the conf townies spot and why they’re not able to see it. They don’t have our alignments to see it

If she is obv Scum why are you not voting her?

[Random Nurse]

I'm thinking I'm gonna call BS on your claim, now. If you were a Bodyguard as you said you are then you would've died last Night.

VOTE: Firebringer

[Random Nurse]

To be honest, this game is giving me an ulcer, and I barely have time to play. I can try wading into it tonight.

[Random Nurse]

VOTE: Random Nurse

[Random Nurse]

That's a wrap.

[Random Nurse]

You all played well.

[Random Nurse]

I felt like the setup was heavily Town-sided.

The Millers became more like Town PRs, so it was tough trying to play around it.

The two Cop results being shared destroyed us. There being a backup Cop destroyed us.

[Random Nurse]

We didn't notice him hunting at being Cop.

We *did* notice Sheep saying "green-peak, GREEN-PEAK!," twice, though, which we thought was a crumb.

[Random Nurse]

We didn't notice him hinting at being Cop.

We *did* notice Sheep saying "green-peak, GREEN-PEAK!," twice, though, which we thought was a crumb.

[Random Nurse]

Mod PT: viewtopic.php?t=91253

Mafia PT: viewtopic.php?t=91252

Dead PT: viewtopic.php?t=91256

Out of curiosity, how might you upgrade this if this game was bumped up to 26 players?