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And the Cop-talk too.
Don't forget about the Cop-talk."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Humor me Drew. Use some of your brainpower on this, and then we can leave it behind us and just agree that you are town.
This is the one thing that I want you to consider - IF you were an outsider looking in on this situation - can you see the potential for a DISloyal Mailman?"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Again - if you are scum here with the new info we have, you'd definitely be scum with marci. That I am not arguing at all.
But you are, again, very firmly stepping away from and dissing the realm of possibilities for the scenario where the Mailman is disloyal.
You make it sound like the odds are astronomical - which they aren't.
Why would the odds for a Loyal Mailman be higher than a Disloyal one?
And still, AGAIN, I am not trying to make this into a 1v1.
I'm trying to discuss the scenario here with you, because it really interests me and might help me to 1) trust you 2) trust the Mailmans judgement."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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And before you keep bashing your head to the wall with the avoidance of my question, to which I'd rather get a firm answer, consider the marci-scenario first.
They keep saying THEY KNOW they are Loyal because it says so in their role-PM.
You claim here that YOU KNOW that the Mailman had to be Loyal because YOU KNOW that you are Town and they say they are Town."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I'm 100% in for a marci limm today.
But I can also say with a 100% certainty that the Mailman is not Loyal, so if that is your only reasoning for voting marci, don't.
The wording and angle in that message is absolutely not from a straight forward town!Loyal!Mailman. It just isn't."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Town!Loyal!Mailman wouldn't have to format their words in any way.
Scum wouldn't get it, and a townie getting it doesn't clear the Mailman themselves anyway.
So a Loyal town!Mailman would just say something/anything to help THEM get the conf. from their target during the day = THEY can either out the one conf.town or continue building reads.
No need for mysteries or weirdness.
100% not a Loyal Mailman, and the logic is there."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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OK Drew, you are not going to come up with anything else regarding this for now?
You seemed a bit annoyed by my questions, which obv. wasn't my intention, but I hoped you would've come up with something else/more anyway.
FL you around anymore?"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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There's a logic here.
If you just stop to think about the idea of a Town Loyal/Disloyal Mailman sending a message to scum!Drew you could come up with a glaring issue."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Do you read what I write?"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I want to agree with you Roden.
I was just thinking whether Drew could be reasoned with here, but it seems like it can't be done.
I was hoping for a more neutral approach to the discussion, but they keep getting agitated."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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You know what I was after though Boon?
I feel like we could've gotten more out of that if Drew were to engage with the thought-exercise, which they simply refused to do it seems.
It took hundreds of posts for FL to point out my Traitor-posts and to come up with my potential claim-crumbs from my posts.
And none of you take the time to think from scum!Drew-perspective which really worries me, since it comes across as either TMI or too eager to townbin Drew based on floppy actions claimed by the target himself.
Scum!Drew would have had a very simple task of "disarming" that gambit you see?"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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"You know additional information about the setup: The Mailman isn't Loyal." would certainly be a badass PM to getIn post 2237, Roden wrote: Drew is arguing that Una can't be 100% certain that the Mailman isn't Loyal. To be 100% certain would require either a flip or for Una to be informed."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Regardless of the Loyal-talk: Drew is NOT conf. town (unfortunately), and marcii is simply not playing the game.
Correctly, or at least not at all "for town", it seems.
Arguing about what their PM says is just super silly and dumb.
Limming marcii today at least either gives us scum in marcii or a conf.town in Drew.
So if we have a protective hidden we might even get to enjoy a day of that D3.
Worst case scenario would be limming town!marcii (still wouldn't feel a lot of guilt over it based on their posts -_-' ) and then losing Drew N2, because we'd get very little information from those."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I went ahead and read an entire old game while bored.
Yet I didn't have the energy to read this whole game again from start.."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I mean like..this is sort of starting to be hilarious now.In post 2252, marcistar wrote: Guys i dont get why you want to elim town so badly like im literally loyal neighbourizer it says here in my role dm
If i wasnt how could drew be in a hood w me"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Don't worry about it.. Just stay #marciStrong"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I KNOW it SHOULDN'T.In post 2271, The Bulge wrote:
nah that logic doesnt track from a scum!drew povIn post 2201, UnaBombaH wrote: Is it even possible for a scum!Drew to get that message from a town!DisLoyal Mailman, and them to just leap up at the possibility of getting a townclear/towncred. ?
And I blatantly here said as much, but they still didn't take the one exact stance that would've told me that they thought it through.
Meaning that all of this is still NAI when it comes to Drew.
Because based on their answers to me, I've got a feeling that scum!Drew might've been susceptible to being hoodwinked.
Like there's still stuff to be said about all of this, I'm sure, but I want to have that discussion with more players around.
This is my first game on site in a long time, but I don't remember time differences ever causing this much trouble to me?
Feels like the whole player list is constantly like on a literal 12h-12h different shift from me."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Please people, don't speed-lim marci!
They seem to be not giving anything worthwhile to us, sure, but the rest of us ought to talk at least a little before EOD."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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They have at least 3 votes already, and at 5 they might just as well self-hammer with how their posting has been so far.
It really benefits scum here more if we don't talk our other reads at all."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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And yea yea, LAMIST-Una trying to act worried the day ends before TOWN gets to talk.
But the matter of fact is that I'm going to sleep within a couple of hours, and I'd prefer discussing some of the leftover stuff before D3."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Agree with this, to a degree.In post 2287, Dannflor wrote: i think firebringer and hu tao come off as town actually if this flips red, i really doubt scum sees marci here and tries to save her
I was looking forward to some more direct discussions with FL, Drew and Hu Tao to feel more certain about my reads so far."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I'm very very sorry for you, I truly am.In post 2292, marcistar wrote: Im too occupied with studying and my friends funeral ro do it rn
I feel like we should be able to guarantee that something this awful going on IRL to you deserves SOME consideration from all of us, but it still shouldn't/doesn't affect the way your actions are read.
Meaning that maybe it would be for the best for you to mainly avoid posting here until friday altogether?
Keep the activity to a minimum, and when you have the time and energy to actually contribute and play, then make your arguments and plead your case? (I assume everyone should be able to agree with this?)"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I've seen it, and heard of it.
I also reread like four old completed games to refresh my memory on some stuff, and came across a setup where is was known knowledge that "scum don't have daytalk".
The same game had a 3p hood with daytalk, that had 2S/1T in it.."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I was in that hood as the sole townie, and wasn't eliminated until lategame, but it was a good reread (both the very short PT and the game), because scum could've either
A) killed me early in the game and basically had a daytalk for 2/3 of them. In a game where it was known that scum don't have daytalk
B) the route which they took after the other scum in our hood was limmed --> I took it for granted that my remaining neighbor was town.
So no, I don't think setup-talk is going to help us here at all."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I still think Traitor isn't a given, I'm disappointed how D2 went, and I'm honestly not liking Drews claim.
Unless my townread on gera is wrong, I think there's still a good chance for scum in FL/HuTao.
Gonna need those two cups of coffee first"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Stupid question and you should know that.
You think scum!Una would openly say that they are disappointed because scum was limmed?
I think D2 was VERY disappointing in the sense that marci was always going to be the limination to me since they couldn't conf.town themself --> we could've talked a lot more beforehand.
I "wisely prophetized" as much D1. (I thought it was obvious based on their claim and kept saying as much)
There is a 100% Traitor if you are Town.
To me, there is 0% a Traitor if you are scum.
I think scum leaving you alive should be enough for you to stop acting like you should be conf.town to everyone, and realize that you still have to try and actually solve.
There's wine all over the table, and that's exactly what scum wanted D2.
We gave them that by speedlimming.
I would've LOVED to hear more logical discussion from you based on that message, but I felt like players like you and FL just wanted to end the day with minimal discussion.
So even the theoretical conversation with you holds minimal value to me now, because you might've been coached in the PT anyway. So that chance is gone now as well.
Scum also made sure I didn't have time to explain my angle or actions yesterday, leaving me on the table as a potential mislimm still.
I'm still uncertain about Danns reaction to unvoting - they either knew very well they were hammering, or they believed my "out of my ass"-votecount."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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For selfish reasons, I might just want Drew limmed today.
To me the remaining scum are within Drew/FL/HuTao/Dann.
I'm obviously going to read the game from the start so I might def. change my mind."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I guess scum!Drew doesn't have a lot of reasons to clear me from being the Traitor.
Especially since I'd argue I'm a very unlikely group!scum based on most peoples reads (??) and I'm the one who constantly keeps shouting that there might not be a Traitor."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Funnily enough I thought at night that Roden or Bulge would make for great NKs because I had no actual reads on them, but I wanted scum to take out Drew even more just to get the WIFOM outta here asap."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I think I want to hear from Hu Tao and gera the most right now.
Where their heads/reads are at.
What they talked about over night.
You know, basic stuff."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I might be tunneling this game, sure.
But you should also know that objectively your actions D2 are NAI considering the open wolfing by marci that took place.
I'm not blaming you specifically for that fastlim, but you did your part to make it very quick.
I'd actually think scum!FL would hardbuss marci in that scenario, and it would've been discussed in the scum-pt as well."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I did briefly feel scum!Drew =//= scum!FL somehow.
Although that claim by Drew is literally something that I can see scum!FL suggesting.
Weird/wonky enough to not seem too "easy" and normal. Reasonable and setup specific enough to be believable by most.
I do think that having an informed role literally for confirming the existence of the Traitor feels just wrong though. Most of you already assumed that presence anyway. I might've been the only one to question it.
Plus IF there's no Traitor, it's in the scums best interest to hide it anyway. Especially now that we have one flipped group!scum."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Hard disagree.
But not worth the argument either."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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You have no idea how much my "tunneling"/tunneling has been refueled by these few pages btw. Mainly because I called ahead some things that scum might want to do early on. And you and Drew have delivered most of those."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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THIS was my point.In post 2413, geraintm wrote: Marci's elimination was baffaling.
I have no idea how they managed to get themselves eliminated, and why they stuck to their "I'm loyal" bit and refuse to budge from it.
scum!FL might've been able to get marci out of that situation WITHOUT the open wolfing, but with the way they decided to act yesterday pretty much confirms to me that it was premeditated.
So WHOEVER is their partner honestly must've known how marci was gonna play D2, and the claimed/actual result on Drew was premeditated as well."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Unless it is literally scum!FL with scum!Drew and that is the partner that you DECIDE and CAN save.In post 2411, Flavor Leaf wrote: I have like 100% certainty from my side that I’d have been able to get Marci out of it if I was ever their partner, and you even said earlier you had seen me with partners all get in weird claim situations and get out of it.
marci might've been willing or even adamant they wanted to go based on their posting D2."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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If you are not touching them today, I'm afraid no one is touching them ever and they are just left to be a wine stain on the table."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Or is the day that Hu Tao gets wagoned, now that I'm not half as interested in limmin them anymore?"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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So you think a complex game is solvable by claims?
Genuinely asking."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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15 pages of hot air and marci open wolfing?In post 2437, The Bulge wrote: but i mean 15 pages when the lim was always gonna be marci? idk what una is so upset about
I'm not gonna "snap out" of anything if it involves telling ourselves that we utilized D2 in any good way."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I'm going to do this once more, and then move on to other subjects.
But please stop skating over legit possibilities because someone says shit like "basically conftown" or "I don't think they would do this as teammates". Or "of course there is a Traitor".
Anyone can do or say anything, and unlike Drew implied D2, it has NOTHING to do with odds, and everything to do with people trying to gambit and cleverly use a caught scum slot with WIFOM.
(Drew and FL can just skip this since you either have to or want to disagree with this anyway, so.. )
This is Drew basically falsely saying that marci = town. While also LITERALLY SAYING that marcis alignment doesn't matter + "unless scum gambit".In post 2171, Doctor Drew wrote: Why you over me?
I am basically confTown now.....no matter Marci's alignment.
Unless scum want to pushthat this is a Marci/Drew scum gambit.
And note the way they format the sentence - not that marci is scum faking anything, but that scum might try and say that Drew+marci are scum together.
They had to backtrack out of this once they realized the potential implications from the Mailman message.
But it's also rather clear that they were first very willing to accept the Loyal modifier from marci. And then from the Mailman when the scumreads towards marci kept coming out.
It felt to me like their willingness to just outright accept and take any Loyal-actions claimed towards them at face value, was more likely coming from scum trying to get as much towncred as possible, rather than a townie who'd be at least a little sceptical about it.
So what is their story now that marci flipped UnLoyal? That there still actually is a hood, and marci just chose them to target for a what-gambit?
Or they think that scum!marci really believed they might get townbinned because town!Drew would've protected them?
I do not think town!Drew would've been the slot for scum to try and create WIFOM around."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Thought you caught up?In post 2454, Hu Tao wrote: Okay so what are the claims?
If you did, you'd be claiming yourself already as you've been named as one of the first wanted to out their claim.
Also you'd know what Drew claimed already = they claim to be informed that there actually is a Traitor in the game."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Actually yes, if someone deserves a vote at this time, it probably is VOTE: Hu Tao"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Oooooooooooooooooooo, spicy.
Assuming then that there is a paired claim to this?"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Ah, Morning folks.
Town Mailman here - who was surprised.
No modifiers, no shenanigans here - I'm just able to troll someone every night.
UNVOTE:"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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N1 wrote a hilarious message to Drew with the sole idea of trying to bait reactions and start conversation around the slot.
That party-line was made btw just to make it look like it COULD be AI-generated as to keep my identity not obvious, but it was all by hand. Apparently Drew liked it enough.
N2 I sent my best paranoia-lines and moon logics to gera as I didn't feel comfortable risking anymore confusion or straight up misinformation regarding my role.
Which also leads to why I was annoyed by how D2 ended. I obviously would've loved to claim and clear my position before EoD. So that it could've happened before it affected reads/balance.
Guess we limmed scum anyway, so.."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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You are harping on the wrong line here.In post 2516, Doctor Drew wrote:
So you are saying that you can't deduce someones alignment?In post 2515, UnaBombaH wrote: Ah, Morning folks.
Town Mailman here - who was surprised.
No modifiers, no shenanigans here - I'm just able to troll someone every night.
UNVOTE:
All of us can DEDUCE stuff here.
But you see, I DID make a mistake by accidentally using the word "confirm" at one point. That I literally can't do."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I've been trying to mainly have fun this game.
I guess it's "openly trust Boon" - time and actually focusing on reading ISOs."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I made a rather clear Traitor crumb D1 = thought scum might miss a N1 cop check, or I might get some reactions towards me to read.
Only FL noticed and called it out D2. No one else even followed that line far. FL was also able to call me out as the Mailman based on second hand information on word choices. That is why I included the aforementioned AI-line too, and why I couldn't message them directly for any fun shenanigans.
And D1 ended with Dann literally calling me out as town specifically. Like why? To get me killed N1 = they now claim this protection? Dunno. But maybe someone can see why I've been spending time doing funky stuff instead of just basic solving."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Of course it doesn't.In post 2520, Doctor Drew wrote: God dammit Una lol.
Your claim is legit.
Doesn't exactly clear you though.
We don't have anyone confirmed until we get another scumflip or one of the masons flipped."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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How many? Is that even something to speculate?
Thought it was obviously either three groupscum or 2+1traitor?"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I think the scum!Cop has to be either in the Vanilla claims, or FB with that disgusting Backup-claim."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Don't you think it would feel safer in a complex setup to claim something very outrageous or "nothing" when you have the one role that is literally earmarked to be scum?
So for what it's worth I think one of Bulge/FL/FB ought to be the Cop.
If I decide to trust FL for now, rereading Jackson from the early game might give me some new feels now."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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In post 2467, Hu Tao wrote:
I'll be waiting for the apology post gameIn post 2460, UnaBombaH wrote: Oooooooooooooooooooo, spicy.
Assuming then that there is a paired claim to this?
Oh, but I already got my pound of flesh you see?In post 1100, UnaBombaH wrote: In my books, if there is not at least one scum in Hu Tao / marcistar / Flavor Leaf I feel like I need to apologize afterwards.
Don't see that being the case in here at all though.
Or you forgot what marci flipped already?"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I'm also glad to know that at least some of my D1 feels were correct.
But I'd be lying if I said that I had the slightest of hunches regarding HuTao+nono."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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This supports scum!Dann or scum!HuTao+nono.In post 1878, UnaBombaH wrote:
I'm Una, and I approve this message.In post 1838, Flavor Leaf wrote: if both Dann and Hu are town, Una is scum like 80% of the time.
Like seriously starting to think this should be taken as gospel by everyone.
Still willing to put it this roughly FL?"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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^^seems about right to me.In post 2530, Flavor Leaf wrote: Yeah, if dann and Hu Tao both are town, i don’t see how it’s not Una.
Drew/Una is a wacky pairing, possible, not likely.
Fire/Dann seems correct.
If we hit town today, we have to fade Hu Tao or Nono tomorrow, though.
Would like to add the obvious caveat from my PoV that IF it's not Dann or Hu Tao, it's likely just FL but you know..I honestly think its just one of these two + a partner."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I guess I can now say my two favorite ideas that the claims are out and no one can monkey around with it anymore.In post 2195, Flavor Leaf wrote:In post 978, UnaBombaH wrote:
I honestly dislike this assumption and talk of traitors all over the place. Especially from jjh.In post 961, jjh927 wrote: "the complex nature of the game" doesn't make a neighbour any more likely to be town or scum
I'm kinda thinking there might be something pretty wild because if the scumteam is a cop, a neighbour, and atraitor. . . well
I know it would make more sense of the announced scum!cop, but since this is a complex setup I'm almost certain that a Traitor isn't a given.
I could come up with multiple reasons why not / alternative reasons for the Cop without it being a total red herring.
I'h at least hope we would stop talking about a Traitor as if it's confimed to exist.
@Una - can you say some of these multiple reasons for me?
For one - I came up with the idea of town!Deputy/backup Cop!
Would be an investigative role that you can't claim, and doesn't have any actual power before we flip the scum!Cop.
Thought it would be possible and interesting in a complex setup.
My second idea - the red herring one - is sort of still alive and would fit some scenarios that have already happened.
For example, IF we trust Drew and just accept that there is a Traitor + 1 group!scum remaining, then we also now know that the two remaining scummies had no way of communicating over night.
Unless it would be Drew+gera in their hood, but then we already have scum!Drew lying about the Traitor-information etc etc.
But assume for one more second that Drew is scum and lying here- then they would've been able to talk a lot and prepare for the upcoming claims.
This also fits the fact that Drew literally claimed informed with the knowledge that a Traitor actually exists. Fits like a glove.
(in my overnight message to gera I actually called out ahead of time that if my red herring-theory is correct, scum would push hard for the KNOWN "FACT" that the is a Traitor = no night talk last night.
Third idea/angle in my mind D1 was to actually try and maybe pull something my way if scum actually would've interpreted me as their Traitor based on those posts I actually did multiple times D1."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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All good fun.
I even had a fleeting moment of reading FL's use of the word "acute" as a potential modifier because to me it felt out of place.
Googled "acute" and for whatever reason it offers "desperate" as a similar word.
"A Desperate action fails when used on a player who would appear to a Cop as belonging to the same alignment as the user."
And desperate is a modifier that would fit this type of a setup with a scum!cop and potential Miller/Traitor in such a fantastic way"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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So yeah, somebody after this game should make a setup with a town!Desperate_investigative, a scum!Cop, a Miller and a Traitor.
I'd spectate that for a dollar."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Throw in a town!Deputy and some other form of Backup and watch the beautiful clusterfuck unfold."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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